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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
dislocatedday
The more I think about going into the 2nd round tonight, I feel the Steelers should just stay at 32 and draft JP Jr. The Steelers need another CB badly, and one who has potential to be able to cover other team's #1 receiver. The Bengals have an excellent set of receivers, and I think even the Ravens now have a formidable looking WR room. Going into the season with Patrick Peterson and Levi Wallace as the team's starters does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Exactly. The Bengals & Ravens are going to be pretty competitive for a while. This team needs to do something to be able to compete with them and slow down/stop their weapons.
If you have a chance at a top corner that can potentially negate one of their tops players, you need to take that chance. Trading back for a lesser CB so that you can pick up an extra offensive lineman that is probably going to spend most of their time on the bench is a bad move, in my opinion.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
Joey Porter Sr played and coached with the Steelers. Why would they need to spend official visits with Joey Porter Jr.? I’m thinking they have already met and spent some time with him over the years.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
Born2Steel
Joey Porter Sr played and coached with the Steelers. Why would they need to spend official visits with Joey Porter Jr.? I’m thinking they have already met and spent some time with him over the years.
they 1000% know him better than ANY other prospect in this draft class and they DID bring him in with local visits that do not count against the 30
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
JPJ all the way. He allowed only one pass of more than 15 yards last year. One.
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A bird in the hand (JPJ) is worth more than two in the tree.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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DesertSteel
JPJ all the way. He allowed only one pass of more than 15 yards last year. One.
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A bird in the hand (JPJ) is worth more than two in the tree.
A left tackle in the first who allowed zero sacks last year against SEC competition and had zero holding penalties, and then a CB in the 2nd who only gave up one pass play of over 15 yards in the Big10................sign me up for that!
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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dislocatedday
A left tackle in the first who allowed zero sacks last year against SEC competition and had zero holding penalties, and then a CB in the 2nd who only gave up one pass play of over 15 yards in the Big10................sign me up for that!
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
I'm sort of feeling that I would like Branch. But the team did not visit with him, and it's not really their MO to pick a player in the early rounds they didn't visit with. I'll be satisfied with JPJ. He doesn't have elite burst and struggles with transitions sometimes... so he's purely an outside corner. Which is fine, we need an elite one. Nice and physical but if he gets occasionally burnt he may have trouble catching up. Well, that's why he fell out of the first round. But he'd still be a good pick for us at this point.
The odd thing is, his metrics say he should have that elite burst but he doesn't translate it onto the field well. It's probably something that can be coached up, but with his hips he's probably always going go be a perimeter guy.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
I love Branch. But I’d still trade back 10 to 20 spots and get more draft picks.
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I love Branch. But I’d still trade back 10 to 20 spots and get more draft picks.
as for as visits - isn’t it true that over the last longest while only half of the Steelers picks chosen have had visits. Pretty sure that’s historical fact.
so way too many are putting undue emphasis on such.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
lipps83
Exactly. The Bengals & Ravens are going to be pretty competitive for a while. This team needs to do something to be able to compete with them and slow down/stop their weapons.
If you have a chance at a top corner that can potentially negate one of their tops players, you need to take that chance. Trading back for a lesser CB so that you can pick up an extra offensive lineman that is probably going to spend most of their time on the bench is a bad move, in my opinion.
Good assessment. Get the CB that can start right off the bat (JP-jr). Branch seems like more of a run defender - I'd go for the better pass defender.
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Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
I think they should just grab Porter. Wheel and deal to get back up and grab Branch if they can. Like Steelerette said. Done deal.
I’m not worried about more players. Sign some cheap free agents if need be.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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ETL
If Steelers trade down and porter and branch are taken before the Steelers pick, would you be disappointed. I would be for sure. So don’t trade. Pick Porter.
VERY disappointed…
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
I think a strong argument can be made to suggest that 30 through 50 and maybe even 60 have very little difference. So an extra pick in that light could be quite nice. Especially a fourth rounder. Fourth rounders often contribute nicely.
but Branch. Dang. I would not cry about Porter either. I just think he’s goi g to have so so so much pressure if he’s not the next Ike.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
Rotorhead
I believe the Rams are in the market for a QB, we could trade back that far, but risk losing Porter or Branch. It would have to be a good value trade for me. I would just stay put honestly.
Could both the Raiders and the Lions be interested in finding their QB of the future (ala Jordon Love)?
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
No. There’s better corners still. And good ends. Good TE. Good C. Lotsa players.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
Biggest remaining need is CB and the best remaining CB is there for the taking. JP Jr it is. I will be shocked if it's anything else.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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BlackAndGold
I 100% expect it will be Porter Jr.
Teams drafting behind Pittsburgh
Arizona
Lions
Colts
Rams
Raiders
All need corners.
I believe they'll move down from #49 to recoup picks and maybe a Dotson trade for a 5th.
The fact that Arizona and Indy are not in the market for a QB might keep the offers the Steelers get for 32 under the level of temptation to trade down. My reasoning is that either of those teams are probably being approached about trading down as well.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
This is fun, do we have another claypool hanging around that we can get rid of?
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
The Bears want their second round draft pick back!
Daniel Greenberg
@ChiSportUpdates
The Chicago Bears have had conversations with the Pittsburgh Steelers about moving to the 32nd pick, per
@RapSheet
.
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Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
The Bears want their second round draft pick back!
Daniel Greenberg
@ChiSportUpdates
The Chicago Bears have had conversations with the Pittsburgh Steelers about moving to the 32nd pick, per
@RapSheet
.
Too far back…way too far back. They’d have to include a Round 1 pick for 2024. Nothing else would make me move back. I wouldn’t move past the Colts.
Has to be Porter, Smith, Branch for me…and the more I read and think about it, Porter is the best option…by far…
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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86WARD
Too far back…way too far back. They’d have to include a Round 1 pick for 2024. Nothing else would make me move back. I wouldn’t move past the Colts.
Has to be Porter, Smith, Branch for me…and the more I read and think about it, Porter is the best option…by far…
I agree
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
Alex Kozora
@Alex_Kozora
So according to reports from
@jjones9
and
@RapSheet
, it sounds like we know the four teams most interested in trading up to 32 with Pittsburgh.
- Atlanta
- Tennessee
- Chicago
- Las Vegas
Vegas picks at 38. Bears are furthest at 53. #Steelers
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
The Bears want their second round draft pick back!
Daniel Greenberg
@ChiSportUpdates
The Chicago Bears have had conversations with the Pittsburgh Steelers about moving to the 32nd pick, per
@RapSheet
.
Not for the 32...
Maybe our 49 for their 53 & 133
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
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Steelers have received, and are mulling, multiple offers for the top pick in tonight’s second round, pick No. 32 overall, per sources.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
Offers coming in may be too good not to move back...A lot of talented corners still on the board.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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BlackAndGold
Offers coming in may be too good not to move back...A lot of talented corners still on the board.
This is my hope
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I don't want to be just for a fourth round pick too
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
Alex Kozora
@Alex_Kozora
So according to reports from
@jjones9
and
@RapSheet
, it sounds like we know the four teams most interested in trading up to 32 with Pittsburgh.
- Atlanta
- Tennessee
- Chicago
- Las Vegas
Vegas picks at 38. Bears are furthest at 53. #Steelers
A Vegas trade would get the 4th back (@109), but moving back 6 spots (5 if you count on them taking Levis or Hooker) pretty much means you don't want Porter OR Branch I would think.
I could hope for Cam, I guess. Not a fan of Stevenson or Brents... just me.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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SteelMember
A Vegas trade would get the 4th back (@109), but moving back 6 spots (5 if you count on them taking Levis or Hooker) pretty much means you don't want Porter OR Branch I would think.
It need to be more!
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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polamalubeast
This is my hope
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I don't want to be just for a fourth round pick too
Agreed. It better be another pick for tonight giving them 4 picks overall plus another one tomorrow.
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
I think the last good draft pick in the fourth round by the steelers was in 2014 with Martavis Bryant....Before that was in 2006 with Willie Colon
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Re: Who would be your draft pick at 32 if you were the steelers?
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
It need to be more!
I get what you're saying, but that's about the value though.
I'm sure someone could come off with more, but the chart says mid-4th for vegas plus the 2 round swap. :noidea:
32 = 590
38(520)+109(76)=596