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the point was the posts didnt age well down talking him while he put together the 3rd best come from behind win in NFL history in the playoffs , did he suck in the 1st half YES he absolutely did ... and largely why they was so far behind to enable a comebackQuote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Was he spot on in the second half and make up for his 1st half deficiencies , 100% he did ... the tales of two halves of football it happens often this one was more magnified
Purdy’s success shows WHY the Niners were hot to trot on Lance. Purdy has Jimmy Gs accuracy and a bit of ability to run around and make plays. Jimmy G doesn’t do that.
Lance has all kinds of ability to run around and a stronger arm than either. If he can become accurate then I shudder to think how you defend that offense.
100 percent he made up for it. They got the W. How can a guy be shit on for a bad first half and his perfect play in second half get zero credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
Stat line is a clunker. Lol. 70 QB rating, 4 INTs, sacked twice, 59% completion percentage. Doesn’t matter about the halves…overall, he threw up a clunker. Got the win, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw up a clunker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
Most important stat is W. So he had bad half. His prior 6-7 weeks he was league leader. One half doesn’t change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Still doesn’t mean he didn’t throw up a clunker. Roethlisberger played lights out until Super Bowl XL and threw up a clunker but still won the Super Bowl. Doesn’t mean he didn’t clunk his way through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cubanstogie
You can played great in a loss and bad in a win....
It says something about his resolve and mental makeup not to fold. You can call it a clunker if you want, but a lot of QBs don't pull themselves out of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Yup!Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckHodges
Thats why I posted it!
To keep on it form year to year.
There's the problem right there. You don't "become accurate." If you could name one QB who came into the NFL as a wild thrower who struggled with poor decisions, and then put it all together and turned into a great passer, I'd be impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
As with 90% of all "mobile quarterbacks," his struggles go well beyond getting used to the NFL or overcoming rookie mistakes. What he's capable of doing just doesn't fly in the pros, too bad.
The real issue is that everyone got so fired up about Patrick Mahomes that they can no longer tell the difference between a future Steve Young and a shitty Michael Vick. They just see what Mahomes does, they go "mobile mobile mobile MOBILE!!" and flail around wasting draft picks.
The closest comparison for what Mahomes does probably IS Steve Young. Above all an excellent passer, who can also make plays with his feet, and also makes excellent decisions about running the ball. That's a killer combination, but guess what, the reason those guys are so good is because almost no one can do all that.
Now teams are grasping at straws with any QB who can run the ball, and most often what they get is a mediocre to poor passer who can make plays with his feet, and makes mediocre to poor decisions about running the ball, and the reason he's a mediocre passer and a mediocre runner is because he's just not good enough at making quick reads and ends up basically button-mashing. And eventually his problems compound themselves because he becomes one-dimensional. Then they cling to hope that one day he'll learn how to throw a decent pass and read a defense better, and guess what, he never does. I'm surprised the 49ers fell into that trap - it's not like they needed to make some big home run move there.
Josh Allen has become accurate.
The biggest pre draft criticism of Mahomes was accuracy.
Lamar Jackson has improved his accuracy.
Shannahan doesn’t need Lance to be a precise passer. Just read it out quickly and get the ball to the right spot.
I think Lance’s biggest problem was that he couldn’t process NFL coverage fast enough.
It doesn’t matter how you start, it’s how you finish!Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
You will not win many game with 4-5 turnovers in a game....
No reason for Lance to ever see the field if Purdue keeps playing the way he has…Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Purdy isn’t going to keep this up. He simply isn’t good enough. In two minute situations and third and longs he’s struggled and looked like an overwhelmed 7th round pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Shanahan will only be able to prevent that from happening on other downs and distances for so long.
Of course, that doesn’t mean Lance is the answer either.
Lance looks like shit with 10 minutes to go in the first quarter, or on second and short. Even Shanahan's offense can't cover up the fact that he's hot garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
That’s not stuff Purdy can’t get better at and even with those flaws, he’s leaps and bounds progressed better than Lance could ever think of…Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
While I agree, I will hold judgement until after the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I don't care who you play, whether it be a high school team, a junior college team, a college team, MUCH less an NFL team... :chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
As long as he plays well like that, the 49ers have to stick with Purdy no matter what!
Yep. Until he shows otherwise, you stick with him. Look at Warner, Brady, Romo, Favre…all back ups that played their way into a starting role and lengthy, successful career. Maybe Purdy is this day and ages Tony Romo…Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
Purdy is playing solid ball(not forcing plays, being accurate) but his play is enhanced due top tier play calling(Kyle Shanahan), and elite playmakers(Deebo/Aiyuk/Kittle/CMC). And that o-line isn't too shabby either with the best tackle in football.
You can say that about almost 80% of the league though…Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAndGold
well in fairness Favre was drafted to be a starter (1st pick in 2nd round) you do not draft guys in that spot to be depth , hard to include him in this group with NFL Europe players , UDFA's and Mr IrrelevantsQuote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Other than the Eagles, who has the elite talent+coaching on offense as the 49ers?Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
Canada doesn't even know linemen can't run past the line of scrimmage on passing plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCSteeler
Lance will be traded, I just hope Purdy doesn't turn into the next Brady and the 49ers win 5 more Superbowls.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
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I would argue the Chiefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAndGold
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It's funny the title of the thread was Pickett vs Purdy then it turned into a Purdy, Lance, 49ers thread.
Getting back to topic, if Pickett gets a great LT and a real offensive coordinator there is no reason he won't great. The teams went 7-2 down the stretch, has some really good high draft picks so I'm excited to see what next year brings.
There’s a lot of good coaches in the league that take average talent and put them in situations to succeed. Need go no further than Brian Daboll and Daniel Jones for the example you are asking. How many times do we see what appears to be elite talent go somewhere else and be average? Happens a lot…Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAndGold
It’s like whisper down the lane…Quote:
Originally Posted by EzraTank
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Purdy has shown a down the field passing ability. He's smart, accurate , and plays winning football. IMO he is the rookie of the year. Trey Lance wants out, but what can the 49ers get for him?!