Keith Butler informed the team he is retiring

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Billy B
Brandon Staley
Zimmer (Fired)
Fangio (Fired)
Flores?

I counted a half dozen DC's across the league that were recently head coaches and may be again soon...

And Carroll and Tomlin appear to occupy a bit of an in between space where they call "some" amount of plays.

Point is that it is entirely common and has historically been a thing some guys have had a ton of success with on both offense and defense.

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i think calling it success is questionable, not talking about the injuries on the d line, but the issues at ILB haven’t been successful. Our run defense has been pretty bad since VW retired so I would say our defensive success is still TBD. Also Backfield got shredded by any above average QB and the pass rush disappeared anytime TJ’s groin pull flared up - we couldn’t make any adjustments to counter these issues - they just got exploited.

I’d like to see Tomlin let the new DC call his plays for the most part at least. What Butler recently said was not comforting at all and the timing of it shows a bit of resentment

How much playcalling did Tomlin handle with LeBeau? Do we know?

How much playcalling did Tomlin handle once Butler took over through last weekend? Do we know?

I would expect he always had a voice in the defense. I also expect it fluctuated year to year and even game to game. Tomlin may not have had much say in coordinator hires during his tenure but this is his team. I bet he has been in Ben's headset from time to time as well. I don't find it surprising at all.

It will be Teryl Austin.

I am very fine with that.

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Originally Posted by teegre

It will be Teryl Austin.

I am very fine with that.

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seen posted elsewhere it is official , but have not seen official word ..for what that is worth

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/01/re...e-coordinator/

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Originally Posted by Dwinsgames

seen posted elsewhere it is official , but have not seen official word ..for what that is worth

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Nice

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Originally Posted by teegre

Nice

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https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/...coordinator%2F

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Originally Posted by Dwinsgames

https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/...coordinator%2F

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I'm excited. He did wonders with the development of Edmunds and Witherspoon.

I thought at some point we had some agreement that Tomlin was calling game day because Keith was a slow talker. I would expect Tomlin to allow Austin to run the defense and make the calls

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Originally Posted by teegre

It will be Teryl Austin.

I am very fine with that.

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I am too. We will need to make a good LB coach hire though. I'm fine with promoting Martin to OLBs coach, but maybe there should be some discussion about Olsavsky.

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Originally Posted by teegre

It will be Teryl Austin.

I am very fine with that.

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Basically hired him 2 years ago for this eventuality.

Interesting to see what they do with OLB coaching slot.

It could be good as it could be bad...We will need to wait and see and hope for the best

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I am too. We will need to make a good LB coach hire though. I'm fine with promoting Martin to OLBs coach, but maybe there should be some discussion about Olsavsky.

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Basically hired him 2 years ago for this eventuality.

Interesting to see what they do with OLB coaching slot.

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Dee-Bo!!!

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Originally Posted by teegre

Dee-Bo!!!

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His coaching would just be telling guys to be tougher and suck less!!

Could be fun.

TJ would sleep during the meetings.

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

His coaching would just be telling guys to be tougher and suck less!!

Could be fun.

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What you go on my drink, TJ?

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Originally Posted by Born2Steel

TJ would sleep during the meetings.

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Bwahahaha!!

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Originally Posted by teegre

Dee-Bo!!!

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He would still have to pee in a cup every other day.

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Originally Posted by teegre

I'm excited. He did wonders with the development of Edmunds and Witherspoon.

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And Butler was a great LBs coach.

I’m not saying I don’t want Austin. I just don’t know that a good position coach is necessarily a good coordinator.

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Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel

And Butler was a great LBs coach.

I’m not saying I don’t want Austin. I just don’t know that a good position coach is necessarily a good coordinator.

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John Harbaugh was a special team coach.

(plus one year as a secondary coach)

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Originally Posted by Born2Steel

How much playcalling did Tomlin handle with LeBeau? Do we know?

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Hey! This is a valid point I never thought of... Sure, Harrison gives full complaint/credit to LeBeau for dropping him into coverage (less to his liking) in the presser right before SBXLIII, but it kinda worked out, right!?! So then after that, our defense loses a step or 2 (age is a thing) and the front orifice fails to fill key def positions, all while hurrying LeBeau out the door so they can replace him with some guy (Butler) who is supposedly in such high demand from other teams that we need to promote him quickly or risk losing him?!?!?!? And, now this supposed defensive expert asshole is retiring after leading the least successful defensive campaigns this team has ever seen? It all sounded like a steaming pile of bullshit at the time, but I'm getting a distinctly more sinister picture in my head now that the smoke has cleared. There's a cult at work here, and they're good at making a media spectacle out of this team, however not very good at football. There's the door Keith, your crony replacement is ready.

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Hey! This is a valid point I never thought of... Sure, Harrison gives full complaint/credit to LeBeau for dropping him into coverage (less to his liking) in the presser right before SBXLIII, but it kinda worked out, right!?! So then after that, our defense loses a step or 2 (age is a thing) and the front orifice fails to fill key def positions, all while hurrying LeBeau out the door so they can replace him with some guy (Butler) who is supposedly in such high demand from other teams that we need to promote him quickly or risk losing him?!?!?!? And, now this supposed defensive expert asshole is retiring after leading the least successful defensive campaigns this team has ever seen? It all sounded like a steaming pile of bullshit at the time, but I'm getting a distinctly more sinister picture in my head now that the smoke has cleared. There's a cult at work here, and they're good at making a media spectacle out of this team, however not very good at football. There's the door Keith, your crony replacement is ready.

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Nice cherry picking to take a part of a post out of context. But I guess you don’t have much else to do.

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Nice cherry picking to take a part of a post out of context. But I guess you don’t have much else to do.

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Didn’t you hear? Steelers are a disintegrating organization with no real path forward.

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He would still have to pee in a cup every other day.

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Hey! Are you insinuating that the NFL's drug testing isn't "random?"

Tomlin calling the plays is not news. This has been suspect for years and Butler's mind has been on the golf course for years. I hope Austin succeeds but I would never promise a job to anyone without looking for the best available and that means outside talent.

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Hey! Are you insinuating that the NFL's drug testing isn't "random?"

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I can neither confirm nor deny that insinuation.

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Originally Posted by fansince'76

Hey! Are you insinuating that the NFL's drug testing isn't "random?"

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Cue monkey dart gif please :chuckle:

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Nobody worth a crap will want to come to Pittsburgh just to let Tomlin make all the calls. That's why they promote from within.

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Originally Posted by tube517

Cue monkey dart gif please :chuckle:

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Ask and you shall receive...

https://1icz9g2sdfe31jz0lglwdu48-wpe...nkey_darts.jpg

:chuckle:

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Originally Posted by teegre

I'm excited. He did wonders with the development of Edmunds and Witherspoon.

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I think Witherspoon had problems getting healthy the past couple years when he was in SF. Not minimizing Austin's coaching ability, but I think there was the potential for Spoon to just get healthy and understand the scheme, then performing.

Still, I think they brought Austin a couple years ago as a planned eventual successor at DC. If it happens, then I am good with it.

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I think Witherspoon had problems getting healthy the past couple years when he was in SF. Not minimizing Austin's coaching ability, but I think there was the potential for Spoon to just get healthy and understand the scheme, then performing.

Still, I think they brought Austin a couple years ago as a planned eventual successor at DC. If it happens, then I am good with it.

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I think Witherspoon gave an interview last week or so that lauded Austin’s role in his late season performance. But I don’t remember the details.