2017:
Media asks Ben if he’s retiring soon.
“Maybe”
:director: DRAMA!!!
2018:
Media asks Ben if he’s retiring soon.
“In 5 years”
:director: DRAMA!!!
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2017:
Media asks Ben if he’s retiring soon.
“Maybe”
:director: DRAMA!!!
2018:
Media asks Ben if he’s retiring soon.
“In 5 years”
:director: DRAMA!!!
Maybe in 5 years we'll have a defense again?
Without Ben, AB and Bell on offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezra Tank
https://jeremypress.files.wordpress....7/img_0987.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by DesertSteel
As stated above, best case is MR becomes our franchise replacement in around 3 years (like Rodgers), second best case MR becomes Garapallo #2, third best case MR become a forever back like Jones, worst case is he was a wasted pick.
FixedQuote:
Originally Posted by Rotorhead
I sure hope dingleberry didn't pay for those glasses. I present The Three Stooges! :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_hPkSbqfXI
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Originally Posted by Shoes
This is the perfect example of why I never watch their show or listen to any of them.....ever.
Not a single thing was put into context, and many things said were factually incorrect.
Does Ben say too much sometimes? Yep
Does much of what Ben says sometimes honest and simply saying what he actually thinks sometimes? Absolutely
The drama here is listening to these buffoons continue to say stuff over and over again that they know is inaccurate and inflammatory. Hot takes are just so annoying to me anymore. If even one of them said "you know what....when Ben said he doesn't have it anymore after the first Jags game, he was being sarcastic".....I could at least say there was some substance.....but none of them did because it didn't fit the intent of the inflammatory edge of the discussion that they went over pre-show.
Useless discussions by bomb throwers don't interest me.
I don't listen to them either, I was doing a search on teardrop trailers and saw it on the sidebar. :chuckle:
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by pczach
Regardless of the reason for the change of heart, I am psyched.
If Ben plays another 3-5 years, this is great for the Steelers.
Yep ...as long as he is playing at a high level I see no down side to it , if he falters maybe we have the next man up , maybe notQuote:
Originally Posted by GBMelBlount
Why draft a QB when he won't be used for 3 or more years from now. QB was not a pressing need this draft, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texasteel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steeldude
Neither of us, or anyone else can say we will not need a QB for 3 years or even 1 year. Ben has been hurt before and likely will be again. He may not miss another game because of injury, but his age, the way he plays the game, and the fact that the refs, have and will continue to, let him to take late hits, low hits, and muggings in general, I would say the odds are against him.
Add the fact that he has been talking retirement before I think that waiting for one of these thinks to happen and then hoping we can find a stop gap QB may not be the best way to go.
Think the real question is, are we happy with Landry as the #2QB. It would seem the Steelers answer to that question is NO.
The one question that is stuck in my head would be. If Rudolph was their guy, the one they would turn over the offense too some day. Why did they draft his WR first. Particularly when they have reached a little to get " Their Guy" in the past.
The Steelers most often are a BPA team in terms of drafting , they do not include players on their draft board that are not of a Need in the first round but after that its BPA from THEIR board not Joe schmo bloggers board ...
they will draft the next best player if it is a pos of need and the players are close in value ( Colberts words ) but generally whomever is their top rated player left on the board they select him , having a room full of talent at a Pos is not considered a problem , in fact they say " its a good problem to have"
this team has been drafting this way for a very very long time and for a team who does not do much in terms of shock and awe in the free agency department the results of such a drafting strategy speak for themselves .... 6 Lombardi's in the trophy case ( thats more than everyone else ) and in serious contention almost on a yearly basis for that elusive 7th ...
so yes we may disagree with selections , methodology and roster configurations but at the end of the day no franchise in the history of the league has been more successful of reaching the Pinnacle of the sport so perhaps they know what is best after all ?
How do you know Ben will be playing, let alone effective, for 3 or more years from now? Even assuming Ben does not change his mind and quit (he is set for life financially and might not care to hang around if the Steelers are not realistic Super Bowl contenders after 2019) it is not simply his call to makeQuote:
Originally Posted by Steeldude
Peyton Manning had one of his greatest seasons in 2013, declined significantly in 2014, and was horrible in 2015 before he retired - when QBs lose their talent it can happen quickly
This from the P-G
Pro Football Reference’s “similar players” feature is instructive in this regard. For each player profile on its site, PFR provides a list of historically comparable players based on production (as opposed to style) to help us add context to the statistical profiles of modern stars. (You can read more about the methodology here.) And Roethlisberger’s comparables don’t paint a pretty picture for his future.
Through 14 seasons, Roethlisberger’s career best compares to those of Jim Kelly, Eli Manning, Terry Bradshaw, Drew Bledsoe, John Hadl, Donovan McNabb, Bob Griese, Mark Brunell, Steve McNair and Warren Moon....
Of Roethlisberger’s nine retired comparables, six flamed out with their original team before retiring. Of the others, two — Griese and Kelly — saw steep drops in production between their final two years as full-time starters. And Bradshaw, famously, was plagued by elbow troubles before he walked away.
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201805030060
If the Steelers had a first round grade on Rudolph burning a third round pick on him is a justfiable insurance policy to avoid having to suddenly draft/sign a replacement
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Great posts. But, you will ultimately lose this discussion, because you have this need to use logic and facts. :wink02:
Likely, they had the two closely rated on their board, so need won out in the 2nd since WR was more pressing than QB. Then they got lucky with their 3rd pick in that he was still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texasteel
I am curious how much differently Rudolph will be paid over the next 3-4 years as a late third round QB vs. a late 1st or 2nd round?
will be on rookie 3rd round deal so ...CHEAPQuote:
Originally Posted by GBMelBlount
Davis Webb drafted 3rd round last year is set to make 605k this year , so basing it on that probably about 650k ( drafted a bit sooner in 3rd and financials are a bit more this year )
Ben Roethlisberger 'surprised' Steelers drafted Mason Rudolph
Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer
PITTSBURGH -- Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was surprised the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted a quarterback after he notified them about his plan to play three to five more years.
Appearing on 93.7 The Fan in Pittsburgh on Friday, Roethlisberger was pointed when asked about last week's selection of Oklahoma State quarterback Mason Rudolph with the 76th overall pick.
to read rest of article:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-mason-rudolph
I do wish that Ben would pay more attention to the up coming season, which is his job, and less to what players where drafted last month, which is not his job. To be fair though, he is being asked these questions, and are probably answering honestly. I just wish his answer would be a little more diplomatic. You know, something like. " I don't worry about who the front office puts on the team, I just have to worry about getting the most out or them when they get on the feild."
in a perfect world .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Texasteel
If Ben does indeed play another 3-5 seasons the Mason Rudolph era will most likely never happen for this team anyway. Why is this even a debate when it requires time to pass to know the outcome?
Do you actually think Ben can play another 5 years. Realistically I think 2 at most. Its a young mans game, even TB is on the decline, and he gets rid of the ball in 3 seconds. If Rudolph is not the guy then they will draft another QB next year. Fact is Ben is eventually going to have to be replaced, and I would rather them waste a pick here and there than not draft a successor and Landry steps in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
Mason Rudolph responds to Big Ben's comments about when he might play
By: Simon A Chester
The response of Ben Roethlisberger to the Pittsburgh Steelers’ selection of Mason Rudolph has hardly been welcoming, but it would seem the apparent cold feelings are not necessarily mutual.
Appearing on “Path to the Draft” on the NFL Network, Rudolph was asked his opinion about Roethlisberger’s post-draft comments and the rookie quarterback managed to be far more diplomatic with his answer than Big Ben had been with his initial remarks.
to read rest of article:
https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/20..._campaign=rail
Did Ben say last season that the Josh Dobbs era is "not going to be for a while"?
I'm just wondering why he seems upset they spent a 3rd round pick on a QB, while I cant remember him being butt hurt when they spent a 4th round pick on a QB??
Probably because no one was asking him about it and Josh Dobbs wasn’t exactly a potential first round pick like Rudolph was? Ben also didn’t help himself planting the retirement seed las lt year in turn creating a “Steelers preparing for the future” headline. Jones also was entrenched as the backup QB at the time so the assumption was, by media, that Dobbs is coming in as a Third String Guy. Much like when Jones was drafted in the 4th round and was replacing Charlie Batch, after the Steelers signed Gradkowski. Neither Jones nor Dobbs was as high a profile pick as Rudolph. Just a thought or two...Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
James C Wexell@jimwexell
James C Wexell Retweeted mike freeman
Bradshaw, 35, said he would play 5 more years.
So Steelers passed on Marino.
Rooney cited the mistake in drafting Ben.
Rinse and repeat, but learn from history. Ben’s 36.
https://twitter.com/jimwexell?ref_sr...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Perhaps thou doth protest too much? :wink02:Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
Yes, I think he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by GBMelBlount
Ben is the greatest QB in Steelers history.
Ben is the biggest drama queen in Steelers history.
Josh Dobbs wasn't even the top 3 QB in the 2017 Senior Bowl................some think Mason Rudolph was a 1st round pick, so Ben is 36 years old and lamenting the Steelers drafting a possible successor, after him dramatically hinting at retirement for 2 seasons. Sad that a 36 year old multi millionaire, still needs to grow up and be a man.