Re: pass rush is frustrating!
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Originally Posted by
Method28
The problem is both our pass rush and our secondary suck. Not one or the other lol
The quickest way to improve....or at least cover up....both areas would in fact be to improve the pass rush.
Sadly i just do not think there is much we can do at this point. Pass rushers come at a premium in this league and finding someone who could be able to come in during the year and make a difference is a very tall task.
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THIS
First bolded is well known to be absolutely true.
Second bolded is also true pass rushers do come at a premium which is why the Steelers should have drafted Spence the consensus best pass rusher in the draft when they had the chance.
Unfortunately you may very well be right there may just not be anything they can do at this point.
Maybe Butler should go back to what they did last year blitz blits and blitz some more. This will leave the secondary more vulnerable similar to what happened last year However he has to hope that the younger guys is the secondary can handle it
If not games like what happened to them against the Eagles ie the defense being picked apart may very well happen again
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Definitely hope they look at Pitt's pass rusher, Ejuan Price come next draft.
Looks like the next Dumervil. Has 9.5 TFL on the season, 5.5 sacks on the season(22 for his college career). Like Dumervil, lacks height(6'0") but has natural leverage and bend.
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Bruce Davis over Cliff Avril...I was extremely pissed on draft day...
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Do people think we have the next great pass rusher on the team right now? I don't. We can either manufacture it, draft a guy, or stick to the coverage/limit them to a field goal scheme. There isn't anyone we can get right now, nor is it draft day yet. Plus we realistically need two legit pass rushing threats to have any. Manufacturing the rush would be going back to the zone blitz scheme, but didn't we just see that not work without all those greats running it?
End of the day, we are going to need a fast starting, consistent game from our "high-powered" and high draft picked offense, or we are going nowhere. It has been like that for a couple of years now, and the defense actually does pretty well once we get ahead by two scores.
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Re: pass rush is frustrating!
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Originally Posted by
BlackAndGold
Definitely hope they look at Pitt's pass rusher, Ejuan Price come next draft.
Looks like the next Dumervil. Has 9.5 TFL on the season, 5.5 sacks on the season(22 for his college career). Like Dumervil, lacks height(6'0") but has natural leverage and bend.
Ejuan reminds me of James Harrison to be honest. He has such a great motor and pursuit to the ball. He is definitely the best player on Pitt's defense.
Re: pass rush is frustrating!
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Originally Posted by
BlackAndGold
Definitely hope they look at Pitt's pass rusher, Ejuan Price come next draft.
Looks like the next Dumervil. Has 9.5 TFL on the season, 5.5 sacks on the season(22 for his college career). Like Dumervil, lacks height(6'0") but has natural leverage and bend.
I'm gonna put him in my 2017 sig mock as a late round flyer: :thumbsup:
Ejuan Price, DE, Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh redshirt senior DE Ejuan Price twice swept past left tackle Brendan Mahon to force first-half fumbles by new Penn State QB Trace McSorley. Disruptive throughout the day, Price also finished with three hurries, but those official numbers seems a bit low.
Price was awarded a sixth season of eligibility by the NCAA. Price missed two and a half years of playing time due to injuries, including a torn pectoral muscle and back injuries.
Listed at just 6'0 and 255 pounds, Price is an under-sized, over-aged, sixth-year senior, with a long injury history, but he finished 2015 with 11.5 sacks, and already has 2.5 after his two games in 2016. He is likely a late round prospect whose ceiling might be Elvis Dumervil (Broncos).
http://www.catscratchreader.com/2016...rs-and-sliders
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QBs are completing 27% of passes & averaging 4.7 yards a play when Steelers send 5. Why aren't we seeing it more?
Study: Why Keith Butler Needs To Start Sending Five
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/09...-sending-five/
Re: pass rush is frustrating!
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hawaiiansteeler
I'm gonna put him in my 2017 sig mock as a late round flyer: :thumbsup:
Ejuan Price, DE, Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh redshirt senior DE Ejuan Price twice swept past left tackle Brendan Mahon to force first-half fumbles by new Penn State QB Trace McSorley. Disruptive throughout the day, Price also finished with three hurries, but those official numbers seems a bit low.
Price was awarded a sixth season of eligibility by the NCAA. Price missed two and a half years of playing time due to injuries, including a torn pectoral muscle and back injuries.
Listed at just 6'0 and 255 pounds, Price is an under-sized, over-aged, sixth-year senior, with a long injury history, but he finished 2015 with 11.5 sacks, and already has 2.5 after his two games in 2016. He is likely a late round prospect whose ceiling might be Elvis Dumervil (Broncos).
http://www.catscratchreader.com/2016...rs-and-sliders
Definitely a player fans should pay attention for during the college season. And btw, anyone wondering, he's number 5 on defense.
He's projected a late pick by many(reasons: size, will turn 24 in January, injury history). But could see him going late 3rd-early 4th.
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Our fix for the pass rush got derailed when Bud and Javon got hurt. Plus, we stop the run first. Make the QB have to throw to get yards. It's a philosophy that will work most games. Just didn't against Philly.
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I'm not going to sit here and agree that Spence was the only player worth taking when we took Burns. Spence was considered a pass rush only player who cannot stop the run, with a history of drug abuse. Maybe he's going to be a force at DE. Maybe he's not. He would be an OLB in this defense - he would be learning an entirely new position and there's no guarantee he would see any snaps.
Burns might become a shut down corner, or close to it.
Last year the Steelers were third in sacks on the season. But they were 30th against the pass with guys like Blake and Allen back there. They drafted Burns and Davis to fix the secondary, and traded for Gilbert who still has potential and might reach it now that he's out of the cesspool that is the Cleveland Browns.
It doesn't help that Dupree is on the IR, a guy who they were planning on playing most of the defensive snaps and coming up with hopefully 8+ sacks this season. Heyward isn't healthy, but an injured Heyward is still better than whoever his backup is.
Hopefully Dupree can come back after week eight and help ignite a pass rush and Davis and Burns improve enough as rookies to not get burned if we do go back to blitzing more often than not. And if the rookies do improve a lot, maybe this defense can get some coverage sacks.
