RE-CAP: Let the Hate Flow through You

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Originally Posted by teegre

What you are saying is true, to a degree. Regardless, my point is this: there is a bevy of short, swift receivers out there. Whether they are considered "top tier" or "elite" or even whether or not they would even be considered a "#1 receiver"... whatever the label, they are out there... and they're racking up yards & receptions**... and they need to be covered.

**Last year, six of the top ten receiving leaders (yards, receptions), were short/swift: AB, Sanders, Maclin, Hilton, Tate, & OBJ.

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I think we have different definitions of "top tier." But I get what you are saying in regards to him racking up the stats. It would've been very interesting to see him develop with AB and Ben in a Steelers uniform. I obviously think his numbers would be lower and I think if he wound up in New England with Shady Brady his number would not have been near as good as they were with Peyton. I think he would up in the perfect place for himself...stat-wise.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

I think we have different definitions of "top tier." But I get what you are saying in regards to him racking up the stats. It would've been very interesting to see him develop with AB and Ben in a Steelers uniform. I obviously think his numbers would be lower and I think if he wound up in New England with Shady Brady his number would not have been near as good as they were with Peyton. I think he would up in the perfect place for himself...stat-wise.

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Indeed. It would have been nice to see the two of them (AB & Sanders) develop together. That said, I think that Bryant is going to be a star. Exit a very good WR, enter a great WR.

I'd make that trade!

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

I'd make that trade!

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Absolutely!!!

Always fluid. That's why it never hurts, never hurts, to have quality depth at every position. No such thing as a bad draft pick, uh, until the Browns pick, or until that player is out of the NFL without a 2nd contract.

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Hey, I just signed for over $3 Million: Mr. Wonka, you know where you can stick your chocolate factory . . .

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Originally Posted by Craic

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Hey, I just signed for over $3 Million: Mr. Wonka, you know where you can stick your chocolate factory . . .

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Dad, stop that!!!

You know, I'd be willing to bet the reason for recruiting all these ball-hawks (albeit short ones) . Gay is a bit of a ball-hawk too. Last season I heard it said (I think on Steeler Depot, or Steelers Fever) that Shamarko was ball-hawking all season long (in practice) . The reason for the ball-hawking love is that Butler plans to get a lot of pressure on the QB this year, with that 3-4/4-3 hybrid he wants to implement. Pressure means more sacks yes, but even more hurries. A QB that's in a hurry is usually not very accurate, and could mean some good opportunities for these ball-hawks, whether they're tall receivers or not. I'd be willing to bet the low Int total last year was more embarrassing then the coaches want to admit. I'll call it now and say our total defense won't be ranked 29th or whatever it was at the end of this coming season.

Something about the Maxx Williams situation and whether he was their target. Walterfootball stated a rumor that Gerry Dulac was reporting that Pittsburgh was targeting a DB. Personally, I was relieved when the Ravens traded up to get Williams, tight end over a db would have been really really stupid

There were reports out there that Williams was the Steelers target as well...and reports they were pissed that Baltimore moved ahead of them. Who knows...

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Originally Posted by st33lersguy

Something about the Maxx Williams situation and whether he was their target. Walterfootball stated a rumor that Gerry Dulac was reporting that Pittsburgh was targeting a DB. Personally, I was relieved when the Ravens traded up to get Williams, tight end over a db would have been really really stupid

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On the second day (Friday) of the draft, the reporter who was in Pittsburgh stated that the Steelers were trying to trade up a) for Landon Collins, and then b) for Jalen Collins.

But, no one knows his name... and so, no one listened.

Whereas, Adam Schefter heard the words "max" and a word that ended with the sound of "yums" and thus, he deduced Maxx Williams... and everyone believed what he said (because, he's Adam Schefter).

Think about that. Adam Schedter reported that the Steelers were going to trade up to 33 for Maxx Williams... and, no one batted an eye. Williams didn't go until 55; so, if the Steelers had "really" had any interest in moving up to 33 for him, they assuredly would have traded up to 40... or 45... or 50...

SUMMATION: Schefter was way off. It happens.

After the draft, there was a report that said that Landon Collins would have required too much, but that a trade as in place to acquire Jalen Collins. Then, Carolina made a better offer (albeit, to get a different player), and Jalen Collins went to Atlanta with the next pick.

Who reported this? Not Adam Schefter... thus, no one believes it. (People still swear that the Steelers were trying to trade up for Williams.)

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

There were reports out there that Williams was the Steelers target as well...and reports they were pissed that Baltimore moved ahead of them. Who knows...

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How much of it was smokescreen?... and, how much of it was truth? We'll never really know.

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Originally Posted by teegre

On the second day (Friday) of the draft, the reporter who was in Pittsburgh stated that the Steelers were trying to trade up a) for Landon Collins, and then b) for Jalen Collins.

But, no one knows his name... and so, no one listened.

Whereas, Adam Schefter heard the words "max" and a word that ended with the sound of "yums" and thus, he deduced Maxx Williams... and everyone believed what he said (because, he's Adam Schefter).

Think about that. Adam Schedter reported that the Steelers were going to trade up to 33 for Maxx Williams... and, no one batted an eye. Williams didn't go until 55; so, if the Steelers had "really" had any interest in moving up to 33 for him, they assuredly would have traded up to 40... or 45... or 50...

SUMMATION: Schefter was way off. It happens.

After the draft, there was a report that said that Landon Collins would have required too much, but that a trade as in place to acquire Jalen Collins. Then, Carolina made a better offer (albeit, to get a different player), and Jalen Collins went to Atlanta with the next pick.

Who reported this? Not Adam Schefter... thus, no one believes it. (People still swear that the Steelers were trying to trade up for Williams.)

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Whoa. Whoa. Slow down there. This is the age of Twitter, not reporting. It is about who has the largest # of followers and who gets the "information" (sorry I mean content) out first across multiple platforms of media consumption (see I can make shit up too!).

Logic, reason, facts, actual reporting, these things have absolutely no place in reporting on football - or much of anything else for that matter.

All kidding aside, I couldn't agree more with your breakdown. The sad part is that there are still multiple media outlets, fan sites, blogs, etc just killing the Steelers for not having any guts and getting schooled by some axis of evil alliance between Arians and Newsome.

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Originally Posted by Mojouw

Whoa. Whoa. Slow down there. This is the age of Twitter, not reporting. It is about who has the largest # of followers and who gets the "information" (sorry I mean content) out first across multiple platforms of media consumption (see I can make shit up too!).

Logic, reason, facts, actual reporting, these things have absolutely no place in reporting on football - or much of anything else for that matter.

All kidding aside, I couldn't agree more with your breakdown. The sad part is that there are still multiple media outlets, fan sites, blogs, etc just killing the Steelers for not having any guts and getting schooled by some axis of evil alliance between Arians and Newsome.

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Outstanding post.

You are spot on: it seems as though being first is more important than being correct.

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Originally Posted by teegre

How much of it was smokescreen?... and, how much of it was truth? We'll never really know.

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I heard those reports after the selection was made...well most likely never know the truth.

Claiming Swearinger of waivers was clear sign what Steelers think about their safety situation. So their target was definitely Landon Colins at first, then Jalen Colins second. They didnt get any of them, so maybe they would have settled with Williams, but they sure didnt try to move up to get him.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

well most likely never know the truth.

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We can't handle the truth!!!

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Originally Posted by Drazo85

Claiming Swearinger of waivers was clear sign what Steelers think about their safety situation. So their target was definitely Landon Colins at first, then Jalen Colins second. They didnt get any of them, so maybe they would have settled with Williams, but they sure didnt try to move up to get him.

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Spot on.

That said, your name is not Adam Schefter... so, I don't believe you. :chuckle: