What the Pittsburgh Steelers have to do to Beat the New England Patriots

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Originally Posted by fansince'76

Didn't get close enough to Brady last year to even draw a flag. I hope we jam their receivers at the line this time around and dump the 10-yard cushion bullshit. The Patriots have the patience to dink and dunk us to death.

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Yeah but the defense will still be breathing the same air he is. Instant penalty ;)

The Cryboys made Brady look bad .... The Cryboys !!!! Shame they only did that fo 58 minutes :heh:

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Originally Posted by Edman

Defense: Depends on what philosophy Lebeau comes in with. If he comes in yet again with the idea of sitting back in a passive zone defense, the game is lost before it has begun. It hasn't worked and will never work against the Pats. Sometimes you have to just say F it, throw all semblance of caution out the window and take your risks. Pressure the fuck out of Brady and start doing lockdown coverage on his recievers. Even if it means flags. Tom Brady will get his yards and points, but make him earn them. Don't give it to him.

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amen

Pats blitz Ben every time we play...and what do the Steelers do on defense playing Brady?

NO blitzing....they fall back into a zone and let Brady hit wide open receivers with 10yd cushions on the outside and leave their TE's wide open against LB's over the middle.

the Steelers NEVER get a push up the middle - it's outside pressure NEVER even comes close to Brady - time for LeBeau to change up SOMETHING, or they just let them march up and down the field all day again

Simple.

Smart Football. No turnovers, No dumb penalties, Play smart, capitalize on opportunities. Stop the pats on third downs. Easy win.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

Simple.

Smart Football. No turnovers....

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Turnovers - they've been as much of a killer to us as anything else when we've played them. Ben had an untimely pick-six last year against them as well, if memory serves. We were trailing 17-3 in the 2004 AFCCG and were deep in their territory when Rodney Harrison picked off another one Ben threw in the flat and took to the house to effectively ice that game too.

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Originally Posted by 86WARD

Simple.

Smart Football. No turnovers, No dumb penalties, Play smart, capitalize on opportunities. Stop the pats on third downs. Easy win.

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and give good protection for Ben

have a good game plan. no al davis ball.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...c.php?t=466208



We know the formula to beat Tom Brady and the Patriots. The problem is executing that formula. The Patriots have basically owned the Steelers during the Brady era. They have whooped up on us like we have the Ravens over the years. (Pre smack talk for next week)

Here's the recipe:

Phase I: Ball control on offense. Keep the ball out of Brady's hands. This will limit the opportunities that he has to hurt you. Typically you would want to slow down the pace by being able to run. The Steelers have had little success running the ball consistently or when it mattered against the Patriots save 2004 with Duece and Bettis and the 2008 game without Tom. The offense must be able to sustain drives and eat up the clock. This is not the week for three and out.

Phase II: No turnovers on offense or special teams. Look at our history against the Patriots and in most games going back to the AFC Championship in 2001, the Steelers have turned the ball over. No fumbles, errant passes or issues on special teams (blocked punts or FG's, reuturns on KO or punts). This takes us out of our game plan and makes us play from behind which we have sucked in doing against the Patriots.

Phase III: Mess up Tom's pretty hair. Put pressure in his face and hit him and he will be a different QB. When was the last time that the Steelers got to Brady? He has never experienced true Blitzburgh pressure. Tom can read a defense, he is cool and pin-point accurate, but if you make him or any QB uncomfortable, they will make mistakes. Ask Big Ben! Ben is bigger, stronger, tougher and more mobile and it rattles him. That is not Tom's game. Get him out of his comfort zone. Woodley, Harrison, Timmons, Farrior and Foote have to put pressure on him. It hasn't happened very often.

Phase IV. Change up the match-ups. You will be better served using Lewis, McFadden, Brown or Allen on Gronkowski and Hernandez. They are both big agile TE's and you will need a more physical CB and not a LB, small CB like William Gay or SS Troy on them. Keep the safeties deep to keep everyone in front. In every loss, a Patriot WR has scorched us for a deep pass. Use William Gay to blitz. He has shown a knack for being a decent blitzer and his tackling has improved. Blitz Gay from the left, right and middle at various times.

Phase V: Take advantage of Patriot mistakes. It is going to be hard to do since, the Steelers don't have many takeaways and Tom doesn't generally give the ball away. If he or any other Patriot make a mistake, the Steelers have to take advantage. We can't drop inerceptions or miss falling on a fumble. Tose are game changers.

Phase VI: Be Physical. The Patriots do not like getting beat up. The Ravens, Jets, Browns, Giants in the SB and Lions in the pre-season have put the beatdown on the Patriots. In these games, the Pats not only lost, they got beat up. We have not been able to match the intensisty that these teams did in beating New England. No mental mistakes. We can't give them chances like they did the Jags and Cards. The Patriots are to good.

This is how you beat the Brady's, Bree's, Mannings, and Rogers.
Last year the Steelers lost to New England, New Orleans, and Green Bay. In all three games the Steelers turned the ball over. With the exception of the Saints game, the Steelers did not force a turnover, and in all three they got little pressure on the QB

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Originally Posted by zulater

Ooh I know, I know, I know!!! What the Steelers have to do to beat the Patriots is score more points than them!! :p

Where's my cookie?:pop2:

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:cookie: :cookie: :cookie:

:chuckle:

Turnovers differenciel for the steelers against the patriots since 2001(vs Brady)

on the 6 loss:-12
on the win:+ 4