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EzraTank
I guess it depends on the charges. If he's looking at jail time (which I doubt) then he will. So basically it sounds like he was racing another teammate and the other teammate crashed killing people. Unless Jalen was driving the car, which it doesn't sound like, I see him getting a slap on the wrist. He apparently was drag racing his teammate who was drunk, then left the scene returning an hour later to give a statement and lied about where he was before admitting it. My guess is he was probably drunk as well and that's why he left the scene. Sounds like stupid shit young men do. But this is the joke of it all. Carter was driving a
Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk worth about $90K. Where does a college student get that kind of money to have an automobile like that? I'm guessing GA's two national titles have a few recruiting violations ...
I believe the GA player that was killed was a passenger and the female driving that vehicle was a recruiter and she tested a couple times over the legal limit.
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EzraTank
Who wants a CB that wears glasses, he'll never see the ball. :ball:
Ike Taylor #2 :chuckle:
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teegre
Signing the Edmunds brothers shouldn’t change things. Terrell would play SS, and Tremaine would play one ILB spot… still leaving one ILB spot vacant.
As far as Terrell playing ILB goes, a player like Simpson is a perfect compliment, because you could have Terrell line up at ILB and Simpson “could” play as a big SS (although, most of the time when Terrell plays ILB, it’s to get three ILBs in the box and no one is playing SS).
Sidenote: An ILB such as Kyzir White could be a dark horse free agent signing, because he’s very familiar with playing ILB and/or SS. He was the “spear” (fifth DB/extra ILB) in WVU’s 3-3-5.
Circling back to Tremaine, despite being a big ILB, his strongest asset is his ability to cover. In turn, the Edmunds brothers and Simpson could create chaos for opposing QBs.
A good thread to join now that the combine is underway. I def don’t think the same as anyone here. lol. As far as T EDmunds goes, I’d love him joining the Steelers. But i actually think the brothers if they sign on the same team are more likely to go the other way then the way of the Steelers. Based upon how I think the Bills are going to conduct business. I think they keep T of their 2 ILB and I think they are dropping salary at S also. So… With that said, and my feeling that Sutton will def be signed and now think that that it’s quite possible the Dupree returns.
I also feel the Steelers stay consistent and do not draft an Olineman early. It’s not what they do. Rare. Unless it’s an elite graded player at his position that being - the clear best in his draft class. Pouncey and Decastro. Otherwise - they just don’t. And i think they gave every indication they are now happy with the starting five. They played like a top 10 Oline to end the season and are younger. The Steelers know it and have repeatedly said they were happy with that group. And more on this later.
so….my picks…
1) Bresee - exactly what the Steelers need to build youth and have great bookends to build around in a couple/few years as Heyward ages. He is a perfect fit. After him I don’t find anyone ideal at that point. Sutton is signed. They have capable Corners. Several. If not Bresee - trade back.
* later round 1 of trade back - take Mayers. He’s awesome. Local to the area. And the best way to build a line without drafting an Oline High is to regularly go double TE. These two would destroy defensive packages. Slaughter in power run which is what the Steelers do with the best power back in the league.
if not available - Safety: Johnson potentially
32nd - Sanders or Simpson - one of , as both are perfect fit and need. Can play nickel too. Both. And straight up ILB.
49th - receiver/Corner - there are many good ones. At the very earliest here. Seems a good fit.
*later half second round in trade back scenario - Ika Florida’s Dexter is a perfect choice if here. As is the recent elevated stock of Phelps or Adenawore. Steeler types.
80th - corner-receiver - great value here for both I’m betting.
note - I would not be sad if Steelers grab Schmit for the inside of the Oline at 49. I think he’s underrated and could be a gem at C or G.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...ft-deep-threat
Another fun article. Jalin Hyatt spoke with Tomlin and co. During the article he mentions Cam Smith as the best CB he's faced in college. 2 guys I would love to see the Steelers draft.
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hawaiiansteeler
I think Campbell could be a 1st round pick.
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DB's were the spotlight and here's a breakdown:
Peezy didn't impress and CBS has Gonzalez and Banks as the top guys combine numbers wise.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ve-back-group/
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Anyone else seeing the eye-popping RAS and testing numbers across the board at this combine and wondering if this is a culmination of a trend? For the past several years I have been seeing how all these highly touted draft prospects specialize their workouts after their last college game to specifically do well in the combine testing/drills. Kenny Pickett spoke about how he basically played at the wrong weight last year as a result of how he trained for the combine. Other rookies have talked about how their combine training was so specific it interfered with their actually getting better at football.
I have to wonder if this is all starting to be kinda meaningless. Or, more meaningless than it already was. If a high caliber CB prospect can go into a training bunker for a handful of months and just hone their performance in specific drills -- do the numbers they produce matter? I was reading this week that you can knock measurable time off your 40 yard dash by starting with the proper arm going forward and messing around with your stride length. Have to wonder if ANY of that actually translates to the football field. So when these guys go back to their actual playing weights, lose the muscle memory of specific drill/testing training, etc --- are they really running these blistering times in the 40 and still able to COD like they did in the 3 cone they spent 9 weeks training for?
Please return to your regularly scheduled draft discussions...
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hawaiiansteeler
Big10 Has their players training the right drills.
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Born2Steel
Big10 Has their players training the right drills.
Not so much Joey Porter…
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So much for Forbes
falling to the Steelers with
their third round pick. Crap.
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'So much for Forbes' is only 4 syllables though. Maybe...
So much for Forbes now
Falling to the Steelers with
their third round pick. Crap!
Now it's a haiku.
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that 40 time is gonna kill porter's stock
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I didn't realize TJ had such big hands!
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Mojouw
Anyone else seeing the eye-popping RAS and testing numbers across the board at this combine and wondering if this is a culmination of a trend? For the past several years I have been seeing how all these highly touted draft prospects specialize their workouts after their last college game to specifically do well in the combine testing/drills. Kenny Pickett spoke about how he basically played at the wrong weight last year as a result of how he trained for the combine. Other rookies have talked about how their combine training was so specific it interfered with their actually getting better at football.
I have to wonder if this is all starting to be kinda meaningless. Or, more meaningless than it already was. If a high caliber CB prospect can go into a training bunker for a handful of months and just hone their performance in specific drills -- do the numbers they produce matter? I was reading this week that you can knock measurable time off your 40 yard dash by starting with the proper arm going forward and messing around with your stride length. Have to wonder if ANY of that actually translates to the football field. So when these guys go back to their actual playing weights, lose the muscle memory of specific drill/testing training, etc --- are they really running these blistering times in the 40 and still able to COD like they did in the 3 cone they spent 9 weeks training for?
Please return to your regularly scheduled draft discussions...
As meaningless as it might seem, it serves a purpose. Where else or how else are you going to get all of the top prospects together and evaluate their athleticism, ball skills, position specific drills and interviews? I don't think it's going anywhere, especially with the TV ratings and media discussion it generates in the offseason.
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DesertSteel
I didn't realize TJ had such big hands!
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As meaningless as it might seem, it serves a purpose. Where else or how else are you going to get all of the top prospects together and evaluate their athleticism, ball skills, position specific drills and interviews? I don't think it's going anywhere, especially with the TV ratings and media discussion it generates in the offseason.
I understand it’s not going anywhere.
I just don’t think a number of these guys seem to play anywhere near their testing numbers.
So lots of potential “busts” after a Combine driven hype train?
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Mojouw
I understand it’s not going anywhere.
I just don’t think a number of these guys seem to play anywhere near their testing numbers.
So lots of potential “busts” after a Combine driven hype train?
I suppose the smart GMs and coaches can extrapolate that.
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DesertSteel
I suppose the smart GMs and coaches can extrapolate that.
I certainly hope so.
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Born2Steel
'So much for Forbes' is only 4 syllables though. Maybe...
So much for Forbes now
Falling to the Steelers with
their third round pick. Crap!
Now it's a haiku.
:rofl2:
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What are the chance the steelers trade up in the first round?
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polamalubeast
What are the chance the steelers trade up in the first round?
Hopefully zero. 3 picks in the top 50 is something this team needs to take advantage of.
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BlackAndGold
Hopefully zero. 3 picks in the top 50 is something this team needs to take advantage of.
Agree.
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hawaiiansteeler
Banks does check boxes. We’ll have pay attention to dinners and who goes to the Maryland pro-day.
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Mojouw
Anyone else seeing the eye-popping RAS and testing numbers across the board at this combine and wondering if this is a culmination of a trend? For the past several years I have been seeing how all these highly touted draft prospects specialize their workouts after their last college game to specifically do well in the combine testing/drills. Kenny Pickett spoke about how he basically played at the wrong weight last year as a result of how he trained for the combine. Other rookies have talked about how their combine training was so specific it interfered with their actually getting better at football.
I have to wonder if this is all starting to be kinda meaningless. Or, more meaningless than it already was. If a high caliber CB prospect can go into a training bunker for a handful of months and just hone their performance in specific drills -- do the numbers they produce matter? I was reading this week that you can knock measurable time off your 40 yard dash by starting with the proper arm going forward and messing around with your stride length. Have to wonder if ANY of that actually translates to the football field. So when these guys go back to their actual playing weights, lose the muscle memory of specific drill/testing training, etc --- are they really running these blistering times in the 40 and still able to COD like they did in the 3 cone they spent 9 weeks training for?
Please return to your regularly scheduled draft discussions...
Agree with this as well. Perfect example, Orlando Brown Jr. He gave up playing his senior year and went to the combine after his junior year. I found this in his wiki-page:
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On January 3, 2018, Brown announced his decision to forgo his remaining eligibility and enter the 2018 NFL Draft. Brown attended the
NFL Scouting Combine in
Indianapolis and performed all of the combine and positional drills, but had a poor performance. His 40-yard dash time was the slowest among any prospect at the combine and was described as a "historically bad time" by NFL analyst Mike Mayock. He also finished last in the bench press, vertical jump, and broad jump among all offensive linemen at the combine. The performance possibly hurt his draft stock after he was widely considered a first round pick among draft experts and scouts.
He fared poorly at the combine, putting up 14 reps on bench press, 5.85 40-yard dash (same as his father's Pro Day score), 82-inch broad jump, and a 19.5 vertical jump. He recovered at his Pro Day, achieving better results in all categories, including 18 reps on bench press, 5.63 40 yard dash, 89" broad jump and 25.5" vertical jump.
Because of all that, Brown fell all the way to the 3rd round where the Ravens selected him. Of course Brown was the son of Orlando Brown Sr who was also a pro-bowler just like Peezy is to Joey Porter Sr.
Oh and Brown Jr. has just gone on to be in the Pro-bowl every year of his career as a starter (2019-2022) and won the Superbowl this year with KC.
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EzraTank
Agree with this as well. Perfect example, Orlando Brown Jr. He gave up playing his senior year and went to the combine after his junior year. I found this in his wiki-page:
Because of all that, Brown fell all the way to the 3rd round where the Ravens selected him. Of course Brown was the son of Orlando Brown Sr who was also a pro-bowler just like Peezy is to Joey Porter Sr.
Oh and Brown Jr. has just gone on to be in the Pro-bowl every year of his career as a starter (2019-2022) and won the Superbowl this year with KC.
both a warning and a great story.
I think the Steelers move back. I just do not think they’ll do so with their first two picks.
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Dreegking
I think the Steelers move back. I just do not think they’ll do so with their first two picks.
Expect the Steelers to to trade down from either #17 or #32
https://steelersdepot.com/2023/03/he...023-nfl-draft/
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hawaiiansteeler
Why? So they have fewer picks in the later rounds when it's even more of a crap shoot and they want to "fix" that by trading higher picks for more crappy picks?
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hawaiiansteeler
Incredibly prophetic lol.
https://i.postimg.cc/kGrPdMbn/Screen...3-07-35-52.png
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DesertSteel
SteelersDepot is just full of wealth and knowledge…is that a Matthew Marwhatever special??