FIRE MIKE TOMLIN!!

fire Tomlin is always ridiculous after a loss , that is cliche as he is ....

but how many times can people go to bat for a guy who simply does not learn from his mistakes ?

If he where a QB he would have been benched years ago and out of the league by now ...

remember the standard is the standard and quite frankly Mike Tomlin is not living up to it ...

he has been defended how many times here now over the years ? its been called ridiculous how many times now , but yet it keeps rearing the same ugly head ....

if you do not learn from mistakes you repeat them over and over and over ....

Einsteins example of insanity is simple ..... if you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ....

Thats is exactly what is happening with Mike Tomlin , that is the exact same thing that is happening here .....

shall we recap a bit ...

we have not won a playoff game since 2011 and in the last 5 years just 2 playoff appearances and where 1 and done in both as a wild card ...

have lost 8 of the last 11 games vs number 1 rival the Ravens

have lost 7 games out of the last 11 to teams below .500

on pace to miss the playoffs again this year when all he had to do was lead his team to two victories vs 2 teams with a combined 7 wins

Piss poor clock management every time it matters , arrogance that is beyond every coach in the league not named bellicheat , bad in game decisions ( see yesterdays no FG attempt ) in a rivalry that almost always comes down to 3 points or less and points are of a premium ... Starting players who have ni business in the league over guys who have proven to be superior players because well for no other reason than he tries hard ...


but hey if mediocrity is all you strive for have at it ... he is all yours and lucky for you he won't be going anywhere because thats not how they do business in Pittsburgh ...

But excuse the rest of us for wanting to actually improve and are not satisfied with mediocrity .

it seems like an eternity since Chris Hoke and Aaron Smith where on this roster and guess what thats exactly how long it has been since we won a playoff game

The packers have often been one of the most injured teams every year since several years now and it includes their year they won the SB in 2010.

I do not care of the record of the steelers, since you can not lose a game with the playoffs on the line against a 4-10 team.In 2005, the Steelers were playing against a 5-9 Browns with the playoffs on the line and they won 41-0.

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Originally Posted by B&GFever

fire Tomlin is always ridiculous after a loss , that is cliche as he is ....

but how many times can people go to bat for a guy who simply does not learn from his mistakes ?

If he where a QB he would have been benched years ago and out of the league by now ...

remember the standard is the standard and quite frankly Mike Tomlin is not living up to it ...

he has been defended how many times here now over the years ? its been called ridiculous how many times now , but yet it keeps rearing the same ugly head ....

if you do not learn from mistakes you repeat them over and over and over ....

Einsteins example of insanity is simple ..... if you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ....

Thats is exactly what is happening with Mike Tomlin , that is the exact same thing that is happening here .....

shall we recap a bit ...

we have not won a playoff game since 2011 and in the last 5 years just 2 playoff appearances and where 1 and done in both as a wild card ...

have lost 8 of the last 11 games vs number 1 rival the Ravens

have lost 7 games out of the last 11 to teams below .500

on pace to miss the playoffs again this year when all he had to do was lead his team to two victories vs 2 teams with a combined 7 wins

Piss poor clock management every time it matters , arrogance that is beyond every coach in the league not named bellicheat , bad in game decisions ( see yesterdays no FG attempt ) in a rivalry that almost always comes down to 3 points or less and points are of a premium ... Starting players who have ni business in the league over guys who have proven to be superior players because well for no other reason than he tries hard ...


but hey if mediocrity is all you strive for have at it ... he is all yours and lucky for you he won't be going anywhere because thats not how they do business in Pittsburgh ...

But excuse the rest of us for wanting to actually improve and are not satisfied with mediocrity .

it seems like an eternity since Chris Hoke and Aaron Smith where on this roster and guess what thats exactly how long it has been since we won a playoff game

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Uh again, this doesn't come down to a vote. He wont get fired because the fans think it should be so. If you like that sort of thing you can always try the Browns, Dolphins, Colts, or in a usual offseason the Redskins or Raiders for your team until Tomlin gets fired or more likely decide's to retire in a decade or so.

Obviously there's two sides to this coin, you can couch things in a positive or negative way regarding Tomlin's overall record to make your case. But know this. At the end of the day he has the support of management. He owns that locker room. Those players like and more importantly respect him.

Here's where I stand. I hope the Jets lose to the Bills next week. I hope we win and go to the playoffs. That said, that's unlikely to happen. So do I think Tomlin deserves next year? Yes I do. If they fix the back end of this defense and get a bit better luck in the health department then let's see what Tomlin can do? Give him 14+ games of Bell, Ben, AB, Pouncey, and Bryant with a bit better defensive team next year and if it doesn't happen then I'm standing with you pitchfork and torch in hand.

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Originally Posted by B&GFever

fire Tomlin is always ridiculous after a loss , that is cliche as he is ....

but how many times can people go to bat for a guy who simply does not learn from his mistakes ?

If he where a QB he would have been benched years ago and out of the league by now ...

remember the standard is the standard and quite frankly Mike Tomlin is not living up to it ...

he has been defended how many times here now over the years ? its been called ridiculous how many times now , but yet it keeps rearing the same ugly head ....

if you do not learn from mistakes you repeat them over and over and over ....

Einsteins example of insanity is simple ..... if you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ....

Thats is exactly what is happening with Mike Tomlin , that is the exact same thing that is happening here .....

shall we recap a bit ...

we have not won a playoff game since 2011 and in the last 5 years just 2 playoff appearances and where 1 and done in both as a wild card ...

have lost 8 of the last 11 games vs number 1 rival the Ravens

have lost 7 games out of the last 11 to teams below .500

on pace to miss the playoffs again this year when all he had to do was lead his team to two victories vs 2 teams with a combined 7 wins

Piss poor clock management every time it matters , arrogance that is beyond every coach in the league not named bellicheat , bad in game decisions ( see yesterdays no FG attempt ) in a rivalry that almost always comes down to 3 points or less and points are of a premium ... Starting players who have ni business in the league over guys who have proven to be superior players because well for no other reason than he tries hard ...


but hey if mediocrity is all you strive for have at it ... he is all yours and lucky for you he won't be going anywhere because thats not how they do business in Pittsburgh ...

But excuse the rest of us for wanting to actually improve and are not satisfied with mediocrity .

it seems like an eternity since Chris Hoke and Aaron Smith where on this roster and guess what thats exactly how long it has been since we won a playoff game

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Originally Posted by polamalubeast

The packers have often been one of the most injured teams every year since several years now and it includes their year they won the SB in 2010.

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So have the Steelers. How many dozens of OL combinations did the Steelers have in 2013 alone?

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Originally Posted by tube517

He's signed through 2018.

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Where's that hippo fart when you need it?

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Originally Posted by Shoes

Where's that hippo fart when you need it?

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:lol:

See Craic's signature

I don't like his style. It's lots of talk and bluster. I think some of the players were thinking if he was for real.

Berman, Jackson, Carter, and Co. were saying if they were starting a franchise, Tomlin would be on the very short list of coaches that they'd want.

Deion, Marshall, et al. have said similar things on NFL Network.

Local San Diego radio talks about they wish that Tomlin was their coach.

SUMMATION:
Distance makes the grass grow greener.

Yesterday's non FG on 4th down.......well, I can hardly blame Tomlin for having that kind of confidence in his offense at this point.

So who let who down?

If we had scored a TD on 4th down, we wouldn't be having this conversation today. We'd be calling him Coach of the Year.

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Originally Posted by teegre

Berman, Jackson, Carter, and Co. were saying if they were starting a franchise, Tomlin would be on the very short list of coaches that they'd want.

Deion, Marshall, et al. have said similar things on NFL Network.

Local San Diego radio talks about they wish that Tomlin was their coach.

SUMMATION:
Distance makes the grass grow greener.

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They don't have to experience the frustration first-hand that the Steelers do

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Originally Posted by teegre

Berman, Jackson, Carter, and Co. were saying if they were starting a franchise, Tomlin would be on the very short list of coaches that they'd want.

Deion, Marshall, et al. have said similar things on NFL Network.

Local San Diego radio talks about they wish that Tomlin was their coach.

SUMMATION:
Distance makes the grass grow greener.

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Hmmm, in this politically correct day and age, I wonder why that is???

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Originally Posted by st33lersguy

They don't have to experience the frustration first-hand that the Steelers do

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Yeah... Chargers fans would kill for that kind of "frustration."

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Originally Posted by Terrapinstation

Hmmm, in this politically correct day and age, I wonder why that is???

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Please... explain.

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Originally Posted by B&GFever

fire Tomlin is always ridiculous after a loss

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it would be even more ridiculous after a win, wouldn't you say? :wink02:

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Originally Posted by Terrapinstation

Hmmm, in this politically correct day and age, I wonder why that is???

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I think I know what you're getting at. As such, it's funny how they don't say the same things about Marvin Lewis...

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Originally Posted by teegre

Yeah... Chargers fans would kill for that kind of "frustration."

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Please... explain.

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Same reason you have a better chance of seeing a bigfoot than a member of the main stream media utter a negative peep about Obama? Maybe they just use up all their coach bashing on Chip Kelly and Tom Coughlin.

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Originally Posted by teegre

SUMMATION:
Distance makes the grass grow greener.

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Distance as in "the other side of the fence," I suppose. From right up close, I'm pretty certain it looks like old hay with poop in it.

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Originally Posted by stillers4me

Yesterday's non FG on 4th down.......well, I can hardly blame Tomlin for having that kind of confidence in his offense at this point.

Who let who down?

If we had scored a TD on 4th down, we wouldn't be having this conversation today. We'd be calling him Coach of the Year.

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A lot of people are up in arms about going for it on 4th down. I didn't think it was a bad idea. The play we called ... not the best. But the overall idea of being aggressive and trying to kick them right in the throat, I liked. Don't forget, the field goal was by no means a sure thing.

Basically, I agree with the people who think it's dumb to make a knee-jerk reaction to fire the coach because of a decision that didn't work out in the game. That IS knee-jerking. But if it's something that's just the latest iteration in a pattern, or the end result of an issue that's been going on all sesaon or for multiple seasons ... that's a different matter.

The outcome of this one game - as well as the fact that we were in that position to begin with, and for that matter, this season as a whole - pretty well summarize my issues with Tomlin, which is a feeling that's come up over and over again for years. And that feeling is "missed opportunity."

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it would be even more ridiculous after a win, wouldn't you say? :wink02:

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Pffft... strawman argument.

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Originally Posted by Terrapinstation

Same reason you have a better chance of seeing a bigfoot than a member of the main stream media utter a negative peep about Obama? Maybe they just use up all their coach bashing on Chip Kelly and Tom Coughlin.

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Ah... got it.

btw: Sheets are on sale at Wal*Mart.

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Originally Posted by teegre

Pffft... strawman argument.

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Ah... got it.

btw: Sheets are on sale at Wal*Mart.

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Case in point why you'll never see certain people criticize Tomlin. Thanks for proving me correct.

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Originally Posted by Terrapinstation

Case in point why you'll never see certain people criticize Tomlin. Thanks for proving me correct.

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Even though the majority of the talking heads previously mentioned are African-Americans themselves? :noidea:

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Originally Posted by Terrapinstation

Case in point why you'll never see certain people criticize Tomlin. Thanks for proving me correct.

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You started that train of thought... so, it's your burning cross to bear.

In the current head coaches that I would take before Tomlin.......Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, Bruce Arians, Ron Riveira and John Harbaugh.

In the maybe:Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy, Tom Coughlin.

In the young coach, who is maybe too early, but they have the potential to become a very good HC:Mike Zimmer and Todd Bowles.


Yes, Tomlin has never had a losing season, but at the end of the 2012 season and the beginning of the 2013 season, the Steelers were 4-11, which is worse than the Ravens this year and it wasted two seasons, which is worse than a losing season.

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Originally Posted by Terrapinstation

Same reason you have a better chance of seeing a bigfoot than a member of the main stream media utter a negative peep about Obama? Maybe they just use up all their coach bashing on Chip Kelly and Tom Coughlin.

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so within your first 4 posts here you've already played the race card?

gee, can't wait to read more of your posts...:jerkit:

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Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler

so within your first 4 posts here you've already played the race card?

gee, can't wait to read more of your posts...:jerkit:

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Yeah I mean, according to the talking heads, Tomlin must be the greatest coach in the history of the league. I've yet to hear anyone criticize him for anything. As was posted, they'd all want him as coach if they were starting a franchise. Why the undying praise for a guy that's coached a very mediocre team for years? What exactly am I missing here? Tomlin's a decent coach, but to some people he's Vince Lombardi.

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Originally Posted by polamalubeast

In the current head coaches that I would take before Tomlin.......Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, Bruce Arians, Ron Riveira and John Harbaugh.

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LOL - I'd love to see Yinzer Nation's reaction had it been Tomlin who made "The Call"... :lol:

And Ron Rivera? Really? Two winning seasons mixed in with 3 sub-.500 campaigns? OK.

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Originally Posted by fansince'76

LOL - I'd love to see Yinzer Nation's reaction had it been Tomlin who made "The Call"... :lol:

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I would have been angry, but at the same time,Carroll has a lot of success since 2012 and this is with a young QB.

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Originally Posted by fansince'76

LOL - I'd love to see Yinzer Nation's reaction had it been Tomlin who made "The Call"... :lol:

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Carroll is far too conservative. He would be an awful fit here.

Harbaugh is a good coach, but he's too big of a douchebag.

I'd take Tomlin over both of them.

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Originally Posted by teegre

Pffft... strawman argument.

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I'll take that as an ad hominem attack...:chuckle:

The race thing is a legitimate question, since you know, the league actually has a rule about race for coaching candidates, and has gotten completely caught up in the political correctness movement as a whole.

Do I think it actually has anything to do with the Tomlin situation? Not at all.

The mainstream media doesn't say anything negative about Tomlin for the same reason they thought our team was going to fall off a cliff when we lost all the "big names" like Hines Ward, Aaron Smith and James Farrior in one offseason. They're looking at it from 30,000 feet and they don't see it. You can miss things as big as a truck, or for that matter a house, pretty easily from there.

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And Ron Rivera? Really? Two winning seasons mixed in with 3 sub-.500 campaigns? OK.

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Just have to look at the roster than Rivera has inherited in 2011.It was a 2-14 team in 2010,now they are a real contender.