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Well, since I've been right about every QB the Steelers have had since Ben (except for Kenny, where the jury is still out), and right about everything I've said about Tomlin, I'd probably do better than most of the Good Ol' Boys here. :boink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
The Steelers haven't been right about any of the QB decisions they've made since Ben left. So why do you guys keep using the Steelers' opinion of these guys as "evidence" of how good or bad they are? That's like trusting Matt Canada's opinion on which NFL teams have the best offensive scheme. :der:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Again, you act like when the Steelers sign a guy, that they automatically are saying the guy's a lock and are wrong when the guy doesn't work out. Sometimes they just take a chance on a guy. That doesn't make them "wrong" when the guy doesn't work out. But again, we will see this season how Kenny and Fields do and how well the Steelers evaluated them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Agreed. :drink:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Congratulations?Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
So have 90+% of the posters here. It was not hard to figure out how each of the post Ben QBs was going to play out.
I guess you must have missed all the posters here who said that Russell Wilson was a "big upgrade" over Kenny Pickett. :boink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Both Wilson being not that good and also being a significant upgrade over KP can be true at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
Regardless, I'm not going to hand out any awards about correctly evaluating all of the post Ben QBs. That wasn't hard. Like I said, most people on here and every other Steelers message board did it as well. So, congrats! You are in the majority of Steelers fans - well done!
Kenny fucking yawn Pickett .... good lord when will it end .............. he sucks get over it already ...
he will likely be the backup to Flacco in Cleveland in 2025 and some of you will still have a hard on for him
Except they weren't. At the end Wilson was worse than Kenny ever was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Stop trying to rewrite history. The majority of Steelers fans thought Wilson was a "big upgrade" over Kenny. The majority of Steelers fans thought Rudolph totally sucked. I was right while they were wrong. Deal with it. :boink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
...says the guy who mentions Kenny in the signature of every post he makes. :rofl2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
Mason Rudolph hasnt done anything in the NFL to prove that he is anything more than a backup QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
His Contract demonstrates what his market worth is rather well. Backup ILB Malik Harrison (2 Year $10mil) is making more than Rudoph (2 yr $7.5mil) is.
Before he saved the 2023 season, most of the people here and Steeler fans in general didn't think he was good enough to even be a backup.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
see above ....Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
If Mason is the starting QB we will have a top 12 pick in 2026 and with all the likely compensatory selections we should get that should easily move us up 3-4 spots to get us a pick from 3-4 QBs of our choosing
I know. All the fans that think the sky is falling if the Steelers have a 5 win season have never had to watch Cliff Stoudt, Mark Malone, David Woodley, Kent Graham, Mike Tomczak under center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwinsgames
Franchise QB talent doesnt fall to you at pick 20-25 that often, so I am fine if they have to really suck badly to get a shot at a QB.
But Mason Rudolph has really shown that his best talents in the NFL are holding a clipboard and getting paid.
And I'll predict again that if Mason is our starter, Tomlin will still get to 9 wins.
I still think they might make the playoffs with Mason at QB. Certainly, they could still be picking around 20 at the very least. If my memory holds, we made the playoffs with Tomczak playing a good chunk of a season and in fact made the AFC Championship with Malone. That is still one of the strangest seasons in Steelers history.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
Fans lose their shit every time we make the playoffs and lose. If we won 5 games fans will have a major melt down, especially if Tomlin isn’t fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
Why would Tomlin get fired for his first losing season after 18 years? There would have to be more to it than a losing season.Quote:
Originally Posted by feltdizz
I think he's just characterizing crazy steeler fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
Um, because that would make NINE straight seasons without winning one playoff game???Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
You really need some new material.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
So I guess going nine seasons without a playoff win isn't that big a deal. It's just something we have to get used to. :frusty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkman
You guys don't just drink the Tomlin Kool-Aid, you bathe in it.
I love it when someone proves my point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason
I know the feeling. :boink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkman
What Russell Wilson said about his time with the Pittsburgh Steelers
"Pittsburgh was a good place for me, man. It really helped rejuvenate me, just in every way, just because of the locker room there, the pros, guys like TJ Watt and Cam Heyward," Wilson said.
He was also complimentary of head coach Mike Tomlin, who he says is one of the best coaches the league has ever seen.
“I think there's three things about Mike Tomlin that's special. I think the first thing is his ability, his obsession, his work ethic. He's there early at 4:30 in the morning and watching the film himself. Head coaches don't do that.”
https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/seah...burgh-steelers
You forgot about the All-Pro Bubby Brister.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
Bloody Blister had his moments - like when he came back to Pittsburgh when he was playing for another team (Denver?) and told his teammates that they had to be careful about the wind coming off the lake. I remember a quote from one of his teammates who said, "we knew what he meant." BTW Bubby is 62. I just can't believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLD
And just what has moving off of them accomplished? Right back in the same spot they were before. Which begs the question. Are the Steelers Desperate to find a QB, or can't find a QB because they are desperate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Sooner or later, you have to stop the carousel and start committing.
Lost in all of the shuffle is how the offense is severely underpaid while the Defense, the lifeblood of the group, has been consistently garbage during the postseason drought. Now if the Steelers have been losing close games because they can't generate enough offense, then there would be a case of the QB being the problem, but they haven't. The Steelers Defense has been absolute dog water. No QB is going to fix that.
Two of those guys have actually won playoff games. Went to an AFC Title Game with one of them.Quote:
Cliff Stoudt, Mark Malone, David Woodley, Kent Graham, Mike Tomczak
Which of the rotating cast of dirtballs should they have committed to? Trubisky? Fields? Wilson? Pickett?Quote:
Originally Posted by Edman
This is what teams that don't have a QB but win enough games to draft outside the top 10 are forced into doing.
The mistake that got made was "reloading" around Ben after his elbow injury. That should have kicked off what they are doing now. Harris, PF, Green, Pickett, Claypool all should've been OL, DL, and DB picks. Then trade around in the draft to go get a QB. They compounded that by allowing Colbert to helm one last draft. He tried to moonshot his legacy with the Pickett pick. It was an over-draft and a misevaluation based on Colbert's likely clouded judgement.
If Kahn and Wiedel had run that draft, I believe the Steelers would be a year further towards returning to real contention.
Imagine a restocked Steelers OL and DL with the assets needed to go get Drake Maye.
Anyone of them. At least the Steelers would have a semblance of a plan at the position going on instead of just flinging shit at a wall. Fields bolted because he wasn't sure he was going to be benched at the first sign of trouble, for a dude was also no longer wanted on the team. You can thank "Mr. Highly Compensated" for that. The track record speaks for itself. For all the things Pittsburgh prides itself in for its "stability", yet they are highly unstable and dysfunctional at the most important position in the league. Even the 80's Steelers weren't this terrible. I'd rather have one mediocre QB who stinks for years, than cycling through many QB's who are clearly aren't the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Yes. This is what teams who celebrate 9-8 every season are left to do. Their mistake was not rebuilding after Ben. But they want their cake and eat it too. Get the 9-8 glory but going nowhere. For what? For Patrick Queens, Minkah Fitzpatricks, and other defensive "stars" who are useless in the playoffs.Quote:
This is what teams that don't have a QB but win enough games to draft outside the top 10 are forced into doing.
It's over for this current core, and it's time to rebuild. If what transpires in 2025 plays out like I hope it does, they're thankfully finally pulling the plug on this current experiment and stocking up for the 2026 draft.