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It's definitely encouraging stuff.
The old grump in me cautions that it still needs to be seen what KP has when defense game plans specifically for him.
We've seen his opening gambit against vanilla. What happens when they get fancy and all that? Does he have more to bring out?
No way to know until it happens. But I'm legit excited to see.
yes and it will be his next step!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
The important thing is that he learn from his errors and become better and better after that....But we have hope so far for him!
I've gone from thinking he had a fairly low ceiling to thinking he can be something less than an "elite" guy but more than the muddled middle tier of QBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
Here's the real interesting thing. Both Mitch and Kenny played against the other team's number one defense. Pickett made things happen and Mitch didn't. I really would like to see Kenny get the start next week and if he does well, it might be worthwhile to name him as the starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel
Also, anyone notice how little time Pickett got compared to Rudolph? I'm wondering if they're hoping he puts something on tape so they can use it to trade him. "See, he is a great back up. We just have two starters on the roster now."
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That's very fair. And, to be honest, I agree. it's easy to confuse younger QBs. But at this point, I'm not sure we gain much more with Mitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
That last bit makes a ton of sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craic
I believe you can often tell more about a teams intentions based on who doesn't play akot of preseason snaps.
Pickett didn't play against *all* the starters. Mitchell was running for his life but still made a few getaways. Notice the O-line was suddenly better when Pickett came into the game.
Our O-line is terrible and I'm not ready to throw Pickett to the wolves and turn him into Andrew Luck, even if he's looking promising. Let Trubisky take the abuse this year while we get our O-line right. The Jags' DL might wind up being special this year but that was still an awful performance.
The team is paying less for the combination of Trubisky, Rudolph, and Pickett than a lot of teams pay for just one guy. I don't think they're desperate to trade Mason unless they can get an asset that improves the O-line NOW.
Picket got better each week of training camp… and looked POISED in the pocket during the games. I’d hand him the reins without a moment’s hesitation.
Pickett already looks like the best QB, but I’m a bit hesitant to already start him, this OL is gonna get him killed. First OL that gave me flashbacks of Sean Mahan and Rollerskates Scott
The choice so far looks to be between 2 'vets' and the rookie that honestly looks better than both of them. You guys ready for some growing pains?
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Honestly, Burrow and the Bengals OL made it work. Although Burrow has finished his first 2 seasons injured.
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Think about this.....an aged, beat down, systemically losing Matthew Stafford moves to a competent team with competent coaches and GM. Superbowl 1st year.
When you look at our line and how it plays, then look at some of the offensive calls (Canada still loves calling plays designed to throw short of of the sticks), Roethlisberger's play last year makes a lot of sense. Rudolph thru most of the 2nd half did his Ben impression of last year. His average pass was like 7 yards, only had 2 throws over 10 yards in the air. (17 completions and only 130 yards?). It makes the mobility of either Mitch or Kenny that much more important. I'm really worried about how Canada is gonna adjust (or not) to the reality of this O-line. He did nothing last year and the only time we had any offense was when Ben would take over late in games.
We all know this. Only reason why Trubisky is over Pickett is due to experience. And if KP doesn't start the season, when does he? after week 4 or 5? is that really going to make a difference? after week 10 or 13? that would be likely be dumb as the season is half way over, and no one makes a QB change during that point of the season because of overall chemistry, the starter is the starter unless it's due to injuries.
Kenny is ready. His poise, anticipation on throws and command of the offense is quite apparent. He'll have ups and downs but so will Trubisky...
I don't like the term low-ceiling, that's pretty much used for any QB these days that doesn't run a 4.5 or better 40 and can sling the ball 100 yards. The most important part of being a QB is accuracy and being able to perform under pressure, and he seems to have both. Sure, his max range is probably 55 air yards, but IMO that's an NFL-level arm. And QB's usually improve their arm strength after a first couple years after their rookie season. Not saying he'll be an elite QB, but honestly I think he has what it takes if his trajectory stays this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
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Originally Posted by Mojouw
True.
Of course he still has a lot to learn, and he hasn't seen anything close to what he is going to see going forward. He has done phenomenally well in the situations he has been in to this point.
Pickett has shined in a couple 2-minute drills. He has taken the team down the field each time, but that is when the defense is generally softer and the windows are larger. What is more impressive in those situations is that he has held up to the mental demands of calling plays and protections, and also executing everything while also making great decisions involving play and time on the field. That's something that is very difficult to do with little experience and in a new offense. It's not just that he's throwing the ball accurately, but knowing where to go with the ball based on the defense.
He is definitely the most accurate of the 3 QBs. He has made all the layups, and has also shown some savy in the pocket as he buys time, moves around in the pocket, and will sometimes take something off the throw to drop it into a window he helped create by buying that time. That shows an understanding of coverage and how to manipulate it.
His big tests are ahead of him, but so far you really can't play any better than he has to this point. It's going to be very exciting to see where this goes.
In the comments I've seen, the thing he has to be much better at is not always keeping his eyes on his receivers that he's going to throw.
That pass by Pickett down the middle to Muth was beautiful to watch
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I still would rather have Trubisky start the season, and if it doesn't go well, then it's Pickett time. I think that is a much better scenario for Pickett's long term success than Having Pickett start the season and then get benched.
I think this is Tomlin's plan. It makes no sense to let Pickett get beat to a pulp if they think he is the Steelers future. He's not an able punching bag like Ben was, let's hope that lesson was learned.Quote:
Originally Posted by stillers4me
Next year's draft should all be OL.
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Shoes! The throw by Pickett to Muth down the middle was a sight to behold.Quote:
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Unpopular opinion, but gotta throw the kid to the wolves.
He's an older rookie QB.
Rookie QBs have to be vetted by there third season, or else you end up with the Wentz extension from the Eagles.
Cheap high quality starting QB is the most valuable commodity in professional sports.
Start figuring out what you really have in Pickett right now.
Remember on the TD drive by Pickett he was 6 for 7. But the one incompletion was a spike to stop the clock so basically he was 6-6. Thanks for posting this polamalubeast it was great to see his vision of the field. The way he is releasing the ball as receivers are starting to make their breaks is a great sign and as the video pointed out something only veterans usually have.Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
I wanted this guy all winter leading up to the draft because he looks like he just has "it". Now imagine if we can get him and OL that can block?
After watching the games (the Jags game was 4am for me) and I agree with you here. Our OL was terrible this game (hopefully it is because the Jags DL is elite this season) and were completely manhandled but Pickett seemed to handle it fine. Trubisky was able to get out of trouble a few times, but never made anything happen with bad throws. Rudolph made is typical boneheaded play on the safety. Pickett simply gives us the best chance to win right now IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I agree (start at the 4:00 mark and skip the Bears talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlBBqdn-y3s
I wouldn't be mad if we drafted 7 linemen next year (OL and DL). They have the playmakers to score on anyone but seem to be losing at the line of scrimmage on nearly every down.
JC Tretter is still out there. He would be an instant upgrade at center for this team. Next year's draft and free agency should all be spent on the OL. Although if Bush sucks still Roquan Smith will be a free agent.
If Pickett turns out to be the starter we have a 5 year rookie window to go crazy on the free agent market and win now!
Maybe but our center was the best player of the o-line yesterday,so it will not change much if the other 4 players are awfulQuote:
Originally Posted by EzraTank
True, but can you then move Cole somewhere else?Quote:
Originally Posted by polamalubeast
Speaking of the QB competition this preseason.....
I don't think Rudolph gets traded. I think the Steelers go into the season with Mitch at QB1, and Mason/Kenny both with an opportunity to take over when 'Bad Mitch' shows up. This offense is already so young and new I just don't see getting rid of the only team veteran in the QB room. Especially on the cheap and team friendly.
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Another video breaking down the Steelers and I agree with them, Trubisky is just not a starting QB either. Start at the 6:15 mark in the video:Quote:
Originally Posted by Born2Steel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKul3pZt-s
What I saw was: Maturity, decisiveness, accuracy, and brass balls to hang in the pocket and deliver a shot when he knew he'd take a hit. That's winning QB'ing right there. If I didn't know Pickett was a rookie, I'd say he already looks like an NFL veteran
I didn't see anything in Trubisky that was disappointing. He came close. Showed elusiveness. Good decisions. Zero points. Pickett, however, has the it factor. He's a playmaker. IMO, Pickett needs to start from game 1.
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It's becoming more popular by the day. Pickett game one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Pickett looks good, he’s making the kind of plays I though Darnold would make at the pro level. Assuming Pickett continues his upward trajectory I can’t see the Steelers keeping Trubisky and MR. one should be traded, whichever one can bring in the better assets
It will be interesting to see how the QB snaps are handle next week. They play on Sunday(28th) and week 1 is on the 11th.