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Ex-Hillary Clinton Staffer Who Set Up Email Server Plans to Plead the Fifth
A former Hillary Clinton staffer who helped set up the former secretary of state's private email server has vowed to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions after a congressional committee subpoenaed him, MSNBC confirmed late Wednesday.
Bryan Pagliano, who worked for Clinton during her 2008 presidential campaign and at the State Department, has been identified in digital records as the person who set up her email server in 2009.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hill...-fifth-n420711
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Probably a smart move for him - remember Vince Foster
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TD's & Beer
Ex-Hillary Clinton Staffer Who Set Up Email Server Plans to Plead the Fifth
A former Hillary Clinton staffer who helped set up the former secretary of state's private email server has vowed to invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions after a congressional committee subpoenaed him, MSNBC confirmed late Wednesday.
Bryan Pagliano, who worked for Clinton during her 2008 presidential campaign and at the State Department, has been identified in digital records as the person who set up her email server in 2009.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/former-hillary-clinton-email-staffer-subpoenaed-plans-plead-fifth-n420711
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I think Hilary's best strategy is to contact Brady's judge and have him get her off scot free.
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Survey USA poll: Hillary loses the worst of 4 Democrats against Trump
Trump beats Clinton 45-40
Trump beats Sanders 44-40
Trump beats Biden 44-42
Trump beats Gore 44-41
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...5-35c0cdab26c6
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fansince'76
This is how it starts. You nail somebody for what is provably illegal (in this case the security violations). You get them to turn so they'll give up bigger fish for evidence tampering and obstruction in exchange for reduced sentence or even immunity.
Once you have the witness, then you go after the bigger fish and find out exactly what was being covered up in the first place. It's got to be really bad stuff for her to try to cover it up this way. I guess she thought Obama would protect her (she thought wrong).
Orange is a good color for her. I'm looking forward to seeing her perp-walk.
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st33lersguy
I think Hilary's best strategy is to contact Brady's judge and have him get her off scot free.
No need - got Obama's DoJ for that...
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GoSlash27
This is how it starts. You nail somebody for what is provably illegal (in this case the security violations). You get them to turn so they'll give up bigger fish for evidence tampering and obstruction in exchange for reduced sentence or even immunity.
Or it's just another case of politics-as-usual and the low-level flunky is made the sacrificial lamb.
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GoSlash27
Orange is a good color for her. I'm looking forward to seeing her perp-walk.
I'd like that too, but I'm not holding my breath...
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TD's & Beer
I can't believe Biden and Gore would get that many votes for POTUS. Both of them are bafoons. I can't speak to Sanders because I've never heard of him before this election. When the left are willing to put Biden/Gore in the WH it shows they are as crazy as their candidates.
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Is that white thing his anal plug? :chuckle:
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uh-oh, poll numbers sinking, possible immunity deal in the works for IT staffer, campaign on the rocks
Hillary Clinton on Private Email: ‘That Was a Mistake. I’m Sorry’
Hillary Clinton on Tuesday told ABC News’ David Muir that using a personal email account while Secretary of State was a “mistake” and that she is “sorry” for it.
"That was a mistake. I’m sorry about that. I take responsibility,” the Democratic presidential candidate told Muir in an exclusive interview in New York City.
This is the farthest Clinton has gone yet in offering an apology for her use of a private email server while Secretary of State.
Clinton told the Associated Press on Monday that she would not apologize for it because “what I did was allowed.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hilla...ry?id=33608970
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Ooooh, she's a-rattlin' her saber now! :nervous:
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Clinton threatens military action if Iran breaks deal
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton issued a hardline warning to Iran on Wednesday that as president she would "not hesitate" to take military action to stop the country from acquiring nuclear weapons.
Casting herself as a key player in talks that led to the landmark agreement to control Iran's nuclear program, Clinton praised the accord as part of a larger Middle East strategy even as she stressed that it is not a step toward normalizing relations.
Read more: Clinton threatens military action if Iran breaks deal
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the avoidance of armed conflict at all costs the reason why Lurch (Kerry) and the rest of the gang bent over backwards to appease the Iranian mullahs and give them everything they wanted in the first place?
Besides, why would they break a deal where they were given EVERYTHING they wanted and conceded NOTHING? :noidea:
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Oooh... what a big toughy pants she is.
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TD's & Beer
uh-oh, poll numbers sinking, possible immunity deal in the works for IT staffer, campaign on the rocks
Hillary Clinton on Private Email: ‘That Was a Mistake. I’m Sorry’
Hillary Clinton on Tuesday told ABC News’ David Muir that using a personal email account while Secretary of State was a “mistake” and that she is “sorry” for it.
"That was a mistake. I’m sorry about that. I take responsibility,” the Democratic presidential candidate told Muir in an exclusive interview in New York City.
This is the farthest Clinton has gone yet in offering an apology for her use of a private email server while Secretary of State.
Clinton told the Associated Press on Monday that she would not apologize for it because “what I did was allowed.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hilla...ry?id=33608970
Borrowing a Hillary quote,
"At this point, what difference does it make?"
Who cares what kind of apology she offers or how sincere it is? Who are these people who are swayed by half-assed apologies and "I take responsibility"? Why is this even news?
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/politi...ign-suspended/
Rick Perry is gone. He's not the first to get deep- sixed in our elimination poll (lookin' at you, Lindsey), but he has bowed to the inevitable.
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GoSlash27
didnt think he ever really stood a chance. I also think he knew that too, but he wanted to give it one last try. I don't necessarily dislike the guy, but something about him seems unlikable
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Debate night
CNN is CLEARLY working to turn the candidates on each other
3 questions to 3 wannabes — topic: Trump.
Attacking Trump all night is certain to make him go up in the polls.
CNN totally shutting Trump out, now.
Like he’s not there.
Good debate now, though.
Best so far = Cruz, I think.
Carly knocks it outta the park on Planned Parenthood
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no debate tickets were made available to the general public....all GOPe operatives
All Jeb now - imma conservative imma conservative imma conservative - amnesty - imma conservative imma conservative
CNN definitely better than Fox though. Moderation was pretty transparent, as it should be. Problem is, there are TOO MANY PEOPLE ON STAGE.
Cut it down to 6 so we can really get down to things.
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I have to give credit where credit is due. CNN is doing a much better job than Fox did and much better than I thought they would.
I also agree. There are too many people on stage. Get rid of the people that don't stand a chance and let us hear from the real candidates.
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Who Won the Second Republican Presidential Debate? Vote Now
http://time.com/4037510/poll-second-...ential-debate/
Trump - 60%
Carly - 17%
Rubio - 6%
everyone else
When your first 5 questions are all about attacking Trump, it makes people want to vote for him more
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I don't understand how anyone thinks Trump won. He's completely out of his league in foreign policy.
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Nothing much new was said by any of them worth repeating - like I said - 11 on a stage was a cluster. Carly will rise her head above 15% by stealing some votes from the also-rans
It's all still posturing
Trump's bumptious body language dominates
(CNN) For anyone who watched Wednesday night's Republican primary debate with the volume turned down, there was a clear winner, communication experts say: Donald Trump, hands down.
"When it comes to body language, nobody does it better," says David Givens, director of the Center for Nonverbal Studies in Spokane, Washington. "He just neutralizes the opposition."
While Trump's opponents appear to be "wooden," Givens says, Trump is "exceptional" at communicating with his bodyBody language experts point out these five signature Trumpisms that put him in a class by himself among candidates:
He leans forward on the lectern.
Trump's opponents tend to stand up straight, which might please their mothers, but doesn't do much for the audience. Givens notes that Trump puts his hands on the lectern and leans forward. "It's like he's doing a pushup. It's a display of power," he says.
He gestures out to the audience.
It's a very big gesture, Givens says, reaching way out. "He extends his hands towards you. It's very personal," Givens says.
His palms are up.
When he does these big gestures, he usually has his palms up.
"He's saying 'I'm open, I am who I am and you can trust me,'" Morgan says, noting that Trump tends to have his palms up when facing the audience or when journalists ask him questions, but not when he faces his opponents.
He turns his torso toward his opponents.
His opponents might turn just their heads or shoulders, but Trump fully faces his opponents. "This shows he has no fear," says Eric Goulard, a body language expert in Lille, France. "I would compare him to an animal ready to attack another animal."
He purses his lips when opponents are talking.
This, along with big gestures with his right hand, is what reminds Givens of Benito Mussolini. "He's basically saying, 'I don't need to worry about the rest of you insects,'" Morgan says..
http://www.wsbt.com/news/health/trum...nates/35322934
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Next debate will be on Oct 13th and it will the Dems this time. That should be a hoot
There are currently six candidates who are expected to take part in the debate: former Secretary of State and current frontrunner Hillary Clinton, Vermont Senator and close second Bernie Sanders, former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley, Harvard Law School professor Lawrence Lessig, former U.S. Senator Jim Webb, and former Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chaffee.
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My take from the debate:
- Scott Walker looks dialed- back. I think it's because his eyes aren't level with each other. It's shallow, but voters are shallow. No way he can possibly win.
- NYT online poll notwithstanding, Trump did not have a good night last night. He's far from out of it, but he's going to have to polish up his act. Step #1: Stop making faces. Dood went through every emoji on my phone in 7 seconds flat. It's entertaining as hell (hence why CNN kept a camera on him) but it ain't presidential.
- Carly Fiorina... I can't say enough about how freakin' good she is in a debate. Far and away the best candidate the Republicans have to offer AFA public speaking.
- Ted Cruz... I loves me some Ted Cruz, but every time he stares into the camera I feel like I'm stuck in an elevator with a life insurance salesman.
- Ben Carson... Debates are never going to be his thing. He's clearly the smartest, calmest, and most rational guy in the room, but that ain't worth much in a debate. It should be, but it's not.
- Rand Paul... My personal favorite candidate, but he seems to be unable to differentiate himself in any way that Republican voters actually like. I think he's going to keep sinking.
- Chris Christie: I personally can't stand the guy, but he performed pretty well last night. I think he'll hold his position.
- Marco Rubio: The media says he did well, but I don't see why. He looked polished in the traditional political sense, but I don't think that counts for much this cycle. He looks and acts like a politician and that's not a good thing this year IMO.
- Jeb Bush: Fake, fake, fake. His good moments looked contrived and his bad moments looked awful.
All the rest: Either didn't stand out or didn't come off well.
CNN: A big, shameful black eye. It wasn't painful to watch like the start of the FOX debate, but they were not in charge during the debate, clearly just wanted to instigate a fight, and didn't ask questions that were important to Republican primary voters.
It about sent me over the edge when they interrupted Christie during a tirade about the national debt and economy (the #1 most critical issue according to Republican primary voters) to change the subject to global climate change (the lowest concern of *all* voters, Republican and Democrat).
tl/dr
I expect Carly Fiorina to rise to prominence after this debate. Trump should begin to fade and Carson should remain about even.
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Ted Cruz... I loves me some Ted Cruz, but every time he stares into the camera I feel like I'm stuck in an elevator with a life insurance salesman.
That was some creepy love he was making to the camera. :lol:
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GoSlash27
My take from the debate:
I expect Carly Fiorina to rise to prominence after this debate. Trump should begin to fade and Carson should remain about even.
I like all 3 of these candidates.
Not surprisingly they are the three non politicians.
Love Carson but my only concern is lack of charisma.
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Whos being childish?
Mach1,
There ain't no gettin' around it. Trump came off as very childish in this debate. Rand got the better of him at the start (a situation that was completely his own fault) and Carly Fiorina absolutely mauled him. The body language and facial expressions made him look like a complete assclown IMO (although CNN set it up so that couldn't be missed).
He very awkwardly went after Paul in the very first minute when he had absolutely nothing to do with the question. Then he attempted to claim that he didn't go for ad-hominems and tried to take one in the very same sentence. Everybody noticed that.
Carly exploded his magazine with a shot to the midships and his response was the single most awkward moment of the night.
His exchange with Jeb also came off horribly, as he was left claiming that Jeb was "making things up" when the facts were not only on Jeb's side, but he had already admitted to it. Plus the whole situation was clearly established fact.
Jeb, OTOH, was just playing to perceptions. People vote for tall candidates. It's contrived and comes off that way, but it's not childish IMO.
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GoSlash27
Mach1,
There ain't no gettin' around it. Trump came off as very childish in this debate. Rand got the better of him at the start (a situation that was completely his own fault) and Carly Fiorina absolutely mauled him. The body language and facial expressions made him look like a complete assclown IMO (although CNN set it up so that couldn't be missed).
He very awkwardly went after Paul in the very first minute when he had absolutely nothing to do with the question. Then he attempted to claim that he didn't go for ad-hominems and tried to take one in the very same sentence. Everybody noticed that.
Carly exploded his magazine with a shot to the midships and his response was the single most awkward moment of the night.
His exchange with Jeb also came off horribly, as he was left claiming that Jeb was "making things up" when the facts were not only on Jeb's side, but he had already admitted to it. Plus the whole situation was clearly established fact.
Jeb, OTOH, was just playing to perceptions. People vote for tall candidates. It's contrived and comes off that way, but it's not childish IMO.
Trump acted like an ass no doubt about that. Standing on your tiptoes to get your picture taken like a 6 year old is very childish. But thats just my opinion.
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GBMelBlount
I like all 3 of these candidates.
Not surprisingly they are the three non politicians.
Love Carson but my only concern is lack of charisma.
GB,
I agree with all of this.
Carson is a scary-smart dude. There ain't no such thing as a dumb neurosurgeon. But how that translates in an election... it's a weird election so hard to say.
It's also clear that he's out of the loop on a lot of the policy. This isn't his area of expertise. But he's clearly capable of picking it up rapidly.
He's one of those guys who can change his position simply on the strength of new data completely without guile. But do the voters follow that? I don't know.
I worry about how well he would fare in a debate against Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden. He's smarter than them and his arguments are all logical, but that doesn't count for what it should in the face of emotional populist rhetoric.
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Ted Cruz Schools John Kasich on the Iran Deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZJKXvKe4D8
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Ted Cruz on Republican Leadership: ‘We’ve Got a Bunch of Weenies’
“If you look at the left, if you look at Barack Obama, or Sen. Reid or Pelosi they are committed to their liberal principles. They are commited to their policy agenda that frankly is destroying this country.” Cruz explained, “They will crawl over broken glass with a knife between their teeth to advance their policy agenda.”
“On our side, we’ve got a bunch of weenies!”
Cruz explained that in every fight between Obama and Congressional leadership, Congress surrenders. He points to funding Obama’s executive amnesty, among other policies, if Obama threatens a veto.
Cruz said the GOP leadership has buckled to Obama’s veto threat repeatedly and predicts that it will happen again regarding the Congressional budget in regards to funding Planned Parenthood.
Cruz questioned, “What the heck is the point of having elections if the people we elect won’t stand and fight?”
He said GOP leadership has one tactic, “surrender.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=ZBPu2vpvVPA
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giddyup already
Joe "Ridin' With" Biden Close To Announcing White House Bid, Aides Say
Following the circus that unfolded in real-time on CNN at the Reagan Library last Wednesday, and considering that your choices on the Democratic ticket are essentially limited to an entrenched member of America’s political aristocracy who’s facing an FBI investigation and a radical socialist who wants to implement the largest peacetime increase in government spending in modern history, you’d be forgiven for suggesting that, as bad as things are now in Washington, they may get far worse starting January 1, 2017.
Over the past three months, we’ve documented the rise of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, noting that their shockingly high poll numbers reflect the fact that Americans are fed up with business as usual inside the Beltway and are ready to see real (as opposed to Obama-brand) “change.”
That said, Sanders’ plan to turn big government into huge government and Trump’s rather haphazard, ad hoc platform have left some voters wondering if perhaps this isn’t exactly the type of “change” they want after all.
Mr. Biden’s entry would coincide with Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton’s ramped-up efforts to reassure her backers that the probes into her use of a personal email server while she was secretary of state won’t derail her candidacy. That controversy has produced a month of bad headlines for Mrs. Clinton and helped boost her chief rival, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, in the polls. A Biden bid could make her road to the Democratic nomination even tougher.
The Democratic debate next month is one of two important events in October that are on the minds of Mr. Biden’s top advisers as they consider a campaign start date.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...-bid-aides-say
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hugs and kisses
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^ Ol' Creepy uncle Joe. As bad as he is, at least he ain't Hillary.
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WAAAHHH! Make 'em stop pickin' on me! WAAAHHH! :cry02:
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Hillary Screams at Obama: 'Call Off Your F-ing Dogs'
Hillary Clinton — believing leaks by President Barack Obama staff's triggered the federal probe of her private email account — ripped into the commander in chief, telling him, during a tense meeting, "What I want for you to do is call off your f–king dogs, Barack!"
The profane attack came during a tense meeting in the Oval Office that was called by Hillary, against the advice of her husband, former President Bill Clinton, according to bestselling author Ed Klein's new book, "Unlikeable: The Problem with Hillary."
The explosive tome, published by Regnery, hits bookstores next week and was excerpted Wednesday in The New York Post.
During the private meeting, Clinton called the meeting because she felt she was "being persecuted for minor, meaningless violations," Klein writes.
But Hillary lost her temper and swore when Obama at first claimed he didn't know what she was talking about.
"He was almost being deliberately dense. It really angered her," a Clinton source told Klein.
After Clinton's tirade, Klein writes that Obama responded, "There is nothing I can do for you one way or another. Things have been set in motion, and I can't and won't interfere. Your problems are, frankly, of your own making. If you had been honest ..."
Read more: Hillary Screams at Obama: 'Call Off Your F-ing Dogs'
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Wow, the Clinton attack machine finally out done by someone else. Impressive. Perhaps his greatest achievement while commander-in-chief.
