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If Belichick Coached the Steelers he'd be Set for Life
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/202307230060
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Ron Cook: If even Bill Belichick's seat can get hot, why is Mike Tomlin's job so safe?Ron Cook
Reports out of New England indicate Bill Belichick might have to win a playoff game this season to save his job. That’s despite the fact he has led the Patriots to nine Super Bowls over the years, winning six.
Speculation in Pittsburgh has Mike Tomlin almost certainly getting another contract extension before Steelers training camp opens on Wednesday. That’s despite the fact his teams have missed the playoffs in three of the past five seasons and haven’t won a postseason game since 2016.
Two very different organizations.
Two very different standards for their coach.
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That is just media and fans speculating until something/anything happens. The Steelers are viable every single season. And without resorting to cheating. I don’t think either coach is on the hotseat. Guess we’ll find out if/when the owners make a move.
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"You gotta win without Tom. It was all Tom. I was there, I saw it. It was Tom."
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mLoAHjg8IfY
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Originally Posted by
fansince'76
That's kind of humorous because Asante was a Patriot when it was Belichick's defense that was the emphasis of the Patriots not the offense. Now does that mean the Patriots would have won those early SBs without Brady, no, but they sure as hell wouldn't have won them without that defense and players like Rodney Harrison, Ty Law, Roman Phifer, Willie McGinest, and yes, Asante Samuel. And I might add that Belichick has two rings as the defensive coordinator of the Giants.
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The question that was posed is; "If even Bill Belichick's seat can get hot, why is Mike Tomlin's job so safe?".
It is a speculation article.
Nobody really knows if either coach's seat is hot or if their job is safe. Just media and fans speculating.
I will go out on a short limb here. IF...BB lost his job, he would probably find another HC job somewhere, eventually. IF....MT lost his job, he would have his pick of HC jobs tomorrow. I don't care if it makes sense or not. You ALL know this to be true.
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Originally Posted by
Born2Steel
............................................ IF....MT lost his job, he would have his pick of HC jobs tomorrow. I don't care if it makes sense or not. You ALL know this to be true.
I doubt it. Find a job? Yes. Have his pick of HC jobs? No. Why? Tomlin hasn't won a postseason game since 2016.
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Originally Posted by
willy
I doubt it. Find a job? Yes. Have his pick of HC jobs? No. Why? Tomlin hasn't won a postseason game since 2016.
Makes sense to you or not, 'tis truth.
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willy
This is simply a stupid article from someone who should know better. We had three throw-away seasons, one where Ben was injured, one where he played as a shell of his former self, and last season. Most teams would be basement dwellers through those three years. In fact, I'd argue that the last four years may have been some of Tomlin's best coaching as the team absolutely was better than the sum of its parts.
The problem with Belichick is that he hasn't won since Brady left, which leaves the owners wondering if it was more Brady than Bill. We've already seen the answer in Pittsburgh in the two seasons we haven't had Ben over the last four or so.
Stupid article.
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Ron Kook. Enough said.
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Craic
This is simply a stupid article from someone who should know better. We had three throw-away seasons, one where Ben was injured, one where he played as a shell of his former self, and last season. Most teams would be basement dwellers through those three years. In fact, I'd argue that the last four years may have been some of Tomlin's best coaching as the team absolutely was better than the sum of its parts.
The problem with Belichick is that he hasn't won since Brady left, which leaves the owners wondering if it was more Brady than Bill. We've already seen the answer in Pittsburgh in the two seasons we haven't had Ben over the last four or so.
Stupid article.
To be fair with the article,this is not a huge difference record wise between BB and Tomlin without Brady or Ben
Belichick without Brady since 2020:25-25
Tomlin without Ben in 2019 and 2022:17-16
This is true,if you look at the entire career,the record of Belichick without Brady is awful but he still won 6 SB and Brady was still not Brady in the first 3
For Tomlin,the next 2 years will be very important.Important like it was for Bill Cowher in 2000 and 2001.The steelers need big improvement since right now the Steelers are stuck in the middle but now the Steelers have more talent, so at some point he's going to need to win in the playoffs, which he hasn't done since 2016, which is a very long time.
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Originally Posted by
Born2Steel
The question that was posed is; "If even Bill Belichick's seat can get hot, why is Mike Tomlin's job so safe?".
It is a speculation article.
Nobody really knows if either coach's seat is hot or if their job is safe. Just media and fans speculating.
I will go out on a short limb here. IF...BB lost his job, he would probably find another HC job somewhere, eventually. IF....MT lost his job, he would have his pick of HC jobs tomorrow. I don't care if it makes sense or not. You ALL know this to be true.
If Belichick lost his job today, he'd have a new job tomorrow if he saw fit to accept one that quickly. Same with Tomlin. There's endless number of college teams that would accept either one of them and probably 28, give or take, NFL teams that would hire either one.
say both hit the market at the exact same time...then it's just a matter of ownership evaluating what type of coaching style would best fit their team...
dumb article.
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The OBVIOUS, and accurate, point of the article:
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Reports out of New England indicate Bill Belichick might have to win a playoff game this season to save his job. That’s despite the fact he has led the Patriots to nine Super Bowls over the years, winning six.
Speculation in Pittsburgh has Mike Tomlin almost certainly getting another contract extension before Steelers training camp opens on Wednesday. That’s despite the fact his teams have missed the playoffs in three of the past five seasons and haven’t won a postseason game since 2016.
Two very different organizations.
Two very different standards for their coach.
You know all about the way the Steelers do business. The Rooneys long have believed in continuity with their coach. That’s why the organization has had just three coaches in the past 54 years since Chuck Noll was hired in 1969. That’s why it stuck with Bill Cowher after he had three consecutive non-playoff seasons from 1998-2000. That’s why it will ride again and again with Tomlin despite his recent failures, which include just three playoff wins since the 2010 season.
Live with it.
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You know all about the way the Steelers do business. The Rooneys long have believed in continuity with their coach. That’s why the organization has had just three coaches in the past 54 years since Chuck Noll was hired in 1969. That’s why it stuck with Bill Cowher after he had three consecutive non-playoff seasons from 1998-2000. That’s why it will ride again and again with Tomlin despite his recent failures, which include just three playoff wins since the 2010 season.
It's hard to argue with the success the Steelers have had over those 54 years.
I've always said the blueprint for winning is right there for anyone to follow, in Pittsburgh.... if anyone cares/d to follow it.
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Mike Tomlin, since being hired in 2007, always had Ben Roethlisberger under center. It wasn't until last season that he finally had a team of his own without his predecessor looming over him. He pulled out 9-8 after a horrible start with horrendous Quarterback play, a Quarterback change mid-season, and guiding a rookie QB.
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Originally Posted by
Edman
Mike Tomlin, since being hired in 2007, always had Ben Roethlisberger under center. It wasn't until last season that he finally had a team of his own without his predecessor looming over him. He pulled out 9-8 after a horrible start with horrendous Quarterback play, a Quarterback change mid-season, and guiding a rookie QB.
Tomlin is a very good coach. Is he a great coach? I don't know enough to say one way or the other.
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willy
Tomlin is a very good coach. Is he a great coach? I don't know enough to say one way or the other.
That, I believe, we will learn over the next two years or so.
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One thing for sure…had Belichick been coach, Matt Canada would’ve been fired…
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86WARD
One thing for sure…had Belichick been coach, Matt Canada would’ve been fired…
This is sure even if to put Matt Patricia as OC was possibly the worst move by Belichick in his career...completely inexcusable since it had no chance to work from the start!
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86WARD
One thing for sure…had Belichick been coach, Matt Canada would’ve been fired…
Yep. We would have Bill O’Brien instead. I would rather have Leftwich.
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
This is sure even if to put Matt Patricia as OC was possibly the worst move by Belichick in his career...completely inexcusable since it had no chance to work from the start!
Still can't believe he did it.
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knowing how the steelers do business, if belichick was a winning coach yeah he'd still have a job here. glad it didn't happen though, the cowher years were some of the most fun to watch
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Born2Steel
Yep. We would have Bill O’Brien instead. I would rather have Leftwich.
Leftwich is so trash as OC.The bucs offense was so brutal to watch last year.Zero creativity and he would not be a improvement over Canada...Yes he was that bad...By far the most overrated coach among steelers fans
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Originally Posted by
polamalubeast
This is sure even if to put Matt Patricia as OC was possibly the worst move by Belichick in his career...completely inexcusable since it had no chance to work from the start!
Patricia was never the OC but he had the responsibility to call plays which was really weird…
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DuckHodges
knowing how the steelers do business, if belichick was a winning coach yeah he'd still have a job here. glad it didn't happen though, the cowher years were some of the most fun to watch
For me Cowher was the most enjoyable coach in the NFL and he's still very enjoyable. How could anyone not like Bill Cowher?
