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Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...amid-1-4-start
What will be the change(players and coaching staff)?
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Canada needs to go. Worse OC since 1998 Ray Sherman.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Canada needs to go first, then Tomlin.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Canada needs to go for sure. Just curious who you guy's and gal's like for a replacement?
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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steelcityboyz
Canada needs to go for sure. Just curious who you guy's and gal's like for a replacement?
Ben Roethlisberger, although he said he doesn't want to coach. However, money talks. Pay the man!
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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Lady Steel
Ben Roethlisberger, although he said he doesn't want to coach. However, money talks. Pay the man!
Good choice! I would love for Ben to be both the OC and the Qb coach.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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steelcityboyz
Canada needs to go for sure. Just curious who you guy's and gal's like for a replacement?
For this season, short term…Mike Sullivan. He won’t be great but he should be better than Canada. I’d throw as much money as I could to get Frank Reich if the Colts let him go and I would bring back Munchak if they are still on good terms with him. He should already be back by now. If I’m Tomlin, I’m doing the moves this week and making a statement…Canada out, Sullivan in, making calls to Munchak. Also making calls to find someone who knows how to coach WRs. Danny Smith…safe for now…bigger fish to fry…
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
knowing tomlin, the staff changes will be firing the ball boy, and then he'll add a WR to the practice squad
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Tomlin needs to go, he is the captain of this shit show. Tomlin is NOT a good coach.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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86WARD
For this season, short term…Mike Sullivan. He won’t be great but he should be better than Canada. I’d throw as much money as I could to get Frank Reich if the Colts let him go and I would bring back Munchak if they are still on good terms with him. He should already be back by now. If I’m Tomlin, I’m doing the moves this week and making a statement…Canada out, Sullivan in, making calls to Munchak. Also making calls to find someone who knows how to coach WRs. Danny Smith…safe for now…bigger fish to fry…
Agreed on making OC - that should be a priority. Line coach too. WR's are not doing their jobs, poor technique and lack of concentration is on poor practice - game prep and coaching. Ultimately Tomlin is responsible - he's got to make changes otherwise the stink will reach his office.
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Steeler-in-west
Agreed on making OC - that should be a priority. Line coach too. WR's are not doing their jobs, poor technique and lack of concentration is on poor practice - game prep and coaching. Ultimately Tomlin is responsible - he's got to make changes otherwise the stink will reach his office.
If changes aren’t made, then the Rooneys will need to make the ultimate change.
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The WRs performance as a group over the last 3 years has been pretty lousy. Many blamed Ben but they are all giving up picks, dropping passes, running lousy routes.
Canada has got to go, just to set a tone.
Find a really good QB and WR coach.
They really need a good OC that can set a cohesive coaching staff with an actual plan .
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Give more touches to Warren
Demote Claypool. Give someone else who's WR3/4/5 more reps in his place.
I don't know if it's the best move to fire an OC in the middle of the season, but if that happens, I won't argue the decision
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
It’s not so much “line up changes” Mike..,
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Canada needs all of his playcalling duties removed, or better yet, removed entirely. His gameplans are terrible.
Jaylen Warren needs promoted to starter and Najee to second string. Najee, whatever his problem is, is hurting the offense when he's on the field.
DJ and Claypool demoted to 3rd and 4th string.
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86WARD
It’s not so much “line up changes” Mike..,
They could have massive line-up changes if they were just able to field their starting 22 and not "random lucky fan off the street".
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steelcityboyz
Good choice! I would love for Ben to be both the OC and the Qb coach.
coaching requires watching film and preperation. things Ben didnt like to do.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Not much they'll do in-season.
Just some possible/likely ideas. Fire Canada, promote Sullivan as the OC for the rest of the season, I'd do this tomorrow. More snaps for Warren over Najee, Sims/Gunner cut for Calvin Austin(and use him!!!), listen and consider all trade offers. More snaps for Mark Robinson at ILB.
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Edman
Canada needs all of his playcalling duties removed, or better yet, removed entirely. His gameplans are terrible.
Jaylen Warren needs promoted to starter and Najee to second string. Najee, whatever his problem is, is hurting the offense when he's on the field.
DJ and Claypool demoted to 3rd and 4th string.
2 and 4. Pickens is clearly the best and most reliable receiver. He's the 1. DJ with all his anti-clutch tendencies, is still the clear cut #2. Claypool needs to be demoted to 4, the #3 needs to be someone you can count on (in the modern NFL the #3 is a starter), and he ain't it.
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DuckHodges
2 and 4. Pickens is clearly the best and most reliable receiver. He's the 1. DJ with all his anti-clutch tendencies, is still the clear cut #2. Claypool needs to be demoted to 4, the #3 needs to be someone you can count on (in the modern NFL the #3 is a starter), and he ain't it.
In ClYpools defense, he was much better today than in previous eeeks. Number 3 would be Freiermuth.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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DuckHodges
knowing tomlin, the staff changes will be firing the ball boy, and then he'll add a WR to the practice squad
This.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Watching a few other games today, I don't see teams that just have that much more talent then us. Definitely deeper talent on some. Dallas may have one of the best O lines in the league. But at some point it has to be coaching at all levels WR coach QB coach OC, even DC , when the defensive stars play lights out, one of the best in the league but over all scheme minus "super start" level talent it's just not there.
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NCSteeler
Watching a few other games today, I don't see teams that just have that much more talent then us. Definitely deeper talent on some. Dallas may have one of the best O lines in the league. But at some point it has to be coaching at all levels WR coach QB coach OC, even DC , when the defensive stars play lights out, one of the best in the league but over all scheme minus "super start" level talent it's just not there.
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The Rams kinda counter this.
They lose some talent at OL and their bet on Allen Robinson has totally failed. So now they’re offense is stuck in the mud.
Same coaching staff that looked like geniuses last season with no answers now because they’re missing talent at OT and WR.
It’s not that teams are so much more talented but it’s having talent at key spots.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
Q: If we fire Canada, with whom do we replace him?
A: Who cares???
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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teegre
Q: If we fire Canada, with whom do we replace him?
A: Who cares???
This this how I feel about Tomlin. The Steelers could put any coach in his position and achieve what probably should be 0-5 going on 0-9.
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teegre
Q: If we fire Canada, with whom do we replace him?
A: Who cares???
B. Long snapper
C. Holder for the place kicker
D. A traffic cone
E. The guy selling popcorn walking around in the nosebleed section.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
So who was fired today? No one? Yeah, that's what I thought. Tomlin, as usual, is full of crap. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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Lady Steel
So who was fired today? No one? Yeah, that's what I thought. Tomlin, as usual, is full of crap. I'll believe it when I see it.
I'm all for changes, but I'm also for not making snap decisions. If he decided yesterday they will "consider" changes, expecting them to occur within 24 hours is a little quick, especially for a franchise that notoriously does not make snap decisions.
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Mojouw
The Rams kinda counter this.
They lose some talent at OL and their bet on Allen Robinson has totally failed. So now they’re offense is stuck in the mud.
Same coaching staff that looked like geniuses last season with no answers now because they’re missing talent at OT and WR.
It’s not that teams are so much more talented but it’s having talent at key spots and available.
FIFY
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Re: Steelers' Mike Tomlin Will 'Absolutely' Consider Lineup, Staff Changes amid 1-4 Start
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Lady Steel
So who was fired today? No one? Yeah, that's what I thought. Tomlin, as usual, is full of crap. I'll believe it when I see it.
We will know more tomorrow during the press conference of Tomlin
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Mojouw
The Rams kinda counter this.
They lose some talent at OL and their bet on Allen Robinson has totally failed. So now they’re offense is stuck in the mud.
Same coaching staff that looked like geniuses last season with no answers now because they’re missing talent at OT and WR.
It’s not that teams are so much more talented but it’s having talent at key spots.
The rams have been all-in for so many years that their last first round draft pick was in 2016...It paid off with their great result in the last 5 years but at some point when you go all-in all the time you'll end up paying the price, because of a lack of depth in your team... maybe that's the case for them at this point