Am I missing something?
This guy was a one man wrecking crew for 10 years. Is this fair to call a snub?
insult to injury they put Ed Reed his counter part from the same era in.
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Am I missing something?
This guy was a one man wrecking crew for 10 years. Is this fair to call a snub?
insult to injury they put Ed Reed his counter part from the same era in.
I thought I heard that Donnie Shell was in. That’s great and all, but it’s weird that Shell, who isn’t in the HOF, would get in, and Troy, who will no doubt be a first ballot HOFer, gets snubbed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Steeler
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Okay, I’m wrong about Donnie Shell, but I swear I heard it on a podcast. Maybe they were talking about some other list.
I just know they mentioned him because they also noted how, based on being on whatever list, it’s weird that he’s not in the HOF.
My guess would be that he's too much of a hybrid and didn't play the traditional safety position. By comparison, Ed Reed was a classic free safety.
Troy doesn't care about stuff like that. It's refreshing in a "Me" society
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-a-team-sport/
Yeah you are missing something. This panel of "experts" is choosing to snub all-time greats drafted after 2000 in favor of some more obscure and/or less deserving players from far back in football's history. It's not just Polamalu, Adrian Peterson, LaDanian Tomlinson, and Darelle Revis were also shafted. Polamalu getting the shaft is confirmation anyone needs that this list is a joke and should not be taken seriously
Who’s the undeserving old school player to drop?
It is an interesting argument but not if can’t back it up with anything specific.
I was shocked that Troy P wasn’t on the list, but I am having a hard time saying that there is a player who did make it who is all that much lesser of a player than Polamalu.
I'll take this as a case of "too many Steelers"
Troy is a top three safety of all time Imo, He was fun to watch, and he did so much for this defense. I'll always go back to the 2009 season when he missed a lot of time due to injury to show the type of impact he had on games.
Also, just show the highlights of his tackle vs Denver(2005?), diving one handed interception vs the Chargers, also the diving INT vs Philly, also the amazing clutch interception vs the Ravens in the AFC championship which sent the Steelers to the Super Bowl.
Nonsense he isn't in the top 100.
Jack Christensen better than Troy? Give me a break. I'm not buying Larry Wilson and Emlen Tunnel were better eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
All of those players bonafides are unimpeachable. Wilson basically invented the safety blitz for crying out loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by st33lersguy
I think there are simply more than 100 staggeringly talented NFL players.
Okay, but a guy who played in the 50s didn’t have to deal with the much more complicated offensive passing schemes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Put Christiansen in Troy’s era... is he better than Troy? Is he a better athlete? Would he play chess with QBs like Troy? I just don’t think it’s possible.
Put Troy in Christiansen’s era and Troy single handedly scores more points than any offense he faces.
Maybe that’s not fair, and by that standard almost no old school players would get in. Fine. I can live with that.
If you want to determine who is the best, the only way to do it is ask who would you take if you had a football team? The first three safeties off the board are Reed, Lott, and Troy (pick your own order). Everyone else comes after.
Agreed. There are 25 positions on a football team (including ST). Law of averages suggests that there should be 4 strong safeties on the list. Can anyone name 4 better strong safeties than Troy Polamalu?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAndGold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlGGB_-Wf8U
Even NFL Films would agree. They rate Polamalu as the #4 safety of all time; SS *or* FS. Dude shoulda been on the list.
But I’d argue that while impressive, it isn’t better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
I don’t know who invented the forward pass, but I’d still bet all my money that Payton Manning was better at it than that guy.
I can't believe people still take these lists seriously. It's all subjective opinion.
For example, my personal opinion is that Dan Marino was the best QB I've ever seen. However, I also know that next to nobody will agree with me on that due to the "rings" argument (and that's fine - like I said, it's all subjective opinion). To which I would also kindly defer to the link posted upthread by Shoes regarding Polamalu and his "it's a team sport" argument.
It was once stated that Troy could have played in any era. You cannot say that about all of the players on that list.
Also an excellent point. Any list that doesn't include Polamalu as a top 100 player should, logically, be disregarded as subjective opinion and thus should not be taken seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Not better but on equal footing. When Troy played he did things no one had seen before. So did the others on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by HollywoodSteel
Point is, as others said, you can make an argument for many guys. They picked like 6.
I’m okay with Troy on or off the list. He’s still the best safety I ever saw play.
Doesn’t mean the others weren’t amazing as well.
Gotta remember that if you drop dudes from other eras into today, be sure to upgrade their training and fitness to modern standards. Like imagine Gale Sayers on a modern training regiment?
Can someone post the top 100?Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
https://www.nfl.com/100/all-time-team/Quote:
Originally Posted by Six Rings
https://www.nfl.com/100/all-time-team/roster
I would agree on both points. The top 100 is nothing more than some so-called-experts opinions. These are the same people who have turned their noses up at L.C. Greenwood and Donnie Shell for years. Peter King is the biggest reason for keeping both of those guys out of the HOF because he is biased and more importantly full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Dan was the Greatest of all time INHO and the exception to the rings theory. What coulda been had we drafted him.
Exactly!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Or imagine Brady or Manning having to take hits like Y.A.Title and blood streaming down their heads. I doubt either would have lasted long under those conditions.
These links just go to the gamepass sign up. What’s going on with these links lately? Does NFL have some sort of block on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by tube517
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Maybe some glitch with Tapatalk?
I wouldn’t consider it a robbery. Just short of a snub IMO. By the same token if he’d been named, he’d belong.
I totally agree. Lots more than 100 great NFL players, in fact there are 326 members of the Hall of Fame currently. So not shocking that some great players will get left off the list and even less shocking that some fans will feel hurt because of it, despite it having zero bearing on their daily lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojouw
Troy was great, but IMO Ronnie Lott likely represents the modern era at SS, while Ed Reed the FS position of the modern era. Its a subjective list like FS76 says.
If you are making a list of the Top-100 DBs in NFL history, Troy Polamalu makes that list...lol. There’s plenty of players that can be removed from a list for a talent like Polamalu.
So far, the All Snub team has...
Troy Polamalu
LaDainian Tomlinson
If I was starting a team of All Time greats, those are two of the “top 5” (let alone top 100) that I’d want on my roster.
Yeah, but how many of them got a Head & Shoulders commercial? That is a much shorter list.
No doubt. Teams specifically game planned for him. Peyton and Tahmmy have specifically said on numerous occasions that if you didn't know where he was on the field he would kill you, and even sometimes when you did know where he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86WARD
bull dookie