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Has anyone been reading up on this, and what are your opinions on the matter? Too harsh, too fair? Bad precedent, good precedent?
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Has anyone been reading up on this, and what are your opinions on the matter? Too harsh, too fair? Bad precedent, good precedent?
Political correctness run amok. Words should not get you banned
Too harsh. There is still the First Amendment whether you agree with what he said or not. My guess is he sells the team and sues the NBA and wins.
The guy has been a scumbag most of his life, has a laundry list of offenses. This incident was simply the last straw. As far as I'm concerned, he got what he deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by st33lersguy
And when he sells the team, he'll pocket hundreds of millions in profit. It's just not fair.
The guy is a scumbag but being a scumbag isn't a criminal offense. We're slowly approaching the point where people don't care about race - but we're obviously not there yet. The NBA has freedom of speech too, so it's free to ban him from associating with them.
But that's about where the line would probably have to be. If they disallow him from league affairs that's one thing and that's what he gets for being a douche. If they force him to sell, well that's akin to criminal punishment for a civil dispute, he can probably sue the league and win.
Just be careful when you toe the edge of that first amendment cliff... it's a slippery slope.
Now everybody in the NBA that says the N-word should be fined and banned for life. Does anybody care that he brings a whore to the games? I think he was set up and this is the shakedown. Forcing him to sell is like confiscation. Truly a slippery slope.
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Originally Posted by X-Terminator
Nope. Forcing him to sell is exercising the first amendment right of freedom of association. He bought into a business (the NBA) and now, he has ran afoul of that business, so they are getting rid of him. It happens all the time and there's nothing wrong with it. Now, if the GOVERNMENT stepped in and forced him to sell, I'd be raising a stink about it. But this is the exact same issue as the Dixie-Chicks—they're free to say whatever they want, but others are free to refuse to associate with with them after they say it. The right of free speech does not negate the responsibility of suffering the non-governmental consequences of that speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLD
This is a great post.Quote:
The guy is a scumbag but being a scumbag isn't a criminal offense. We're slowly approaching the point where people don't care about race - but we're obviously not there yet. The NBA has freedom of speech too, so it's free to ban him from associating with them.
But that's about where the line would probably have to be. If they disallow him from league affairs that's one thing and that's what he gets for being a douche. If they force him to sell, well that's akin to criminal punishment for a civil dispute, he can probably sue the league and win.
Just be careful when you toe the edge of that first amendment cliff... it's a slippery slope.
However I personally feel racism is a bigger deal to some groups now more than ever and not for the right reasons.
theres actually a bylaw in the NBA somewhere that allows this type of thing to happen so this is not confiscation. The clippers are a franchise, and once you buy a franchise it isnt necessarily something you can fiddle with however the heck you want. You are still just a faction, and just a piece of a bigger fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLD
by the way, if sterling couldnt possibly be more classless, he has really outdown himself. At the press conference when Commissioner Silver was asked if Sterling showed any remorse in their conversation about this, he said no. See ya later Sterling. Have fun watching that bimbo spend your fortune away :)
I'm with XT on this. Also Silver had little choice, as the players as a collective unit really were the ones who forced his hand. Simply put the Union was going to demand that all Clipper players be granted free agency by July. Whether this demand was granted or not, there wouldn't have been one Clipper player report for camp next fall. Players from other teams would have stood with the Clipper players ( remember Chris Paul is the Union President) and the 2014-15 season would have been in jeopardy. Also the sponsors who have withdrawn their support for the Clippers in reaction to this quite likely would have extended that to the league if they tried to force minority players to take the court for Sterling. So in the end it was either get rid of one old racist prick or fight a multi front war against players, sponsors, and fans.
You are all correct, but the slippery slope is where does it end. Will it devolve into anybody that criticizes a certain political concept get banned or if somebody says something negative about law enforcement gets banned or somebody says something bad about religion or brings in too much religion?Quote:
Originally Posted by zulater
The NBA is trying to counter the loss of sponsors, the players are replaceable. Given enough incentive ($), I would play for the Clippers.
Where is the mea culpa from the NBA for not dealing with this guy earlier and a statement that they will deal with such activity sternly (pun somewhat intended) and quickly?
The ONLY reason Sterling got banned this time is because this incident went viral and lasted longer than 3 days in the headlines.
Shall we peak under the rug at the league offices and see what else lies beneath?
Not really a First Amendment issue. Guy is able to say anything he wants. What he's not protected from is the repercussions from those comments.
There's nothing that protects him from punishment by a private organization where he may do his business.
I do agree it's too harsh, but the guy chose to make some dumb comments and now he has to pay the price...or make a couple few million dollars in the near future.
The NBA is a star driven vehicle. Right now the league is sweating out the possibility of Memphis eliminating OKC. :lol: And Okie City is smaller than Memphis, but it's all about Durante and Westbrook advancing for the ratings. Anyway a player boycott involving LeBron James, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin etc... has teeth that digs deep at the underbelly of the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLD
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That's on David Stern. Stern operated on a consensus of himself. He didn't have colleges he had underlings.But that's then this is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Count Steeler
Silver has established a new era.
If only someone would come along and do that for the NFL...Quote:
Originally Posted by zulater
8 Things that won't get you Banned in the NBA.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-S...ned-by-the-NBA
LOL at your Family Circus ode to GoodHell in your signature....:chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by fansince'76
Most of those things occurred before Silver took over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLD
But let's face it, of the personal character combination's of white, male, conservative, Christian, and straight, if any four out of those five things apply to you, you will be held to a different standard of conduct than everyone else in today's America. All five, forget it, you have to apologize for everything bad that's happened in the past 500 years according to the new narrative. We're just suspicious by our being.
Does Silver do anything without the threat from the players? We may never know.
http://toprightnews.com/?p=2777
I hate the Lakers and I don't like Kareem (the NBA player), but Kareem the regular citizen speaks the truth.
Wait until the Thought Police start confiscating homes and putting the owners in concentration camps for thinking impure thoughts.