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Merchant
09-25-2011, 11:28 PM
Okay here goes mine...

1. I have NEVER seen the team run that poorly. And this was against what is considered a small Colts defense. And absolutely 0 creativity in the run-game. It seemed like 20 times it was Mendy up the middle for no gain or max 1 yard. The O-Line deserves blame for poor blocking and Mendy was incredibly indecisive. Not sure why Redman wasn't utilized more either - it seems like he consistently makes something happen yet doesn't seem to be rewarded as much as he deserves.

2. What on earth has happened to our run defense? The same group, minus Aaron Smith, essentially set nfl history last season with avg rushing yards allowed per game. And the colts o-line isn't considered strong by any means in run-blocking.

3. Whyyy does Arians keep calling those bubble screens 6+ times every game. They go for 2 yards on avg almost every time.

4. Incredibly infuriating lack of awareness by our boys on the freeney sack/fumble and the interception. They just STARED at the ball as it rolled on the ground and freeney picked it up for the TD. Then Sanders saw the pass picked off right in front of him and failed to lay a finger on the defender so at least the ball would have been at mid-field instead of our 20 yard line.

5. Where's the pressure? Where's Harrison and Woodley? I know Harrison forced the fumble that Troy took in for the TD.. but I'm talking about over the course of the game. These are supposed to be two of the top five outside linebackers in the league.


I'm mentally exhausted. Add on yours..

steelerdiva
09-25-2011, 11:31 PM
There seems to be a lot of ranting going on in the other threads, but thanks anyway.

Merchant
09-25-2011, 11:33 PM
No my thread's the best :P

7willBheaven
09-25-2011, 11:33 PM
As far as you #1...after a while I'm like run to the OUTSIDE...pull Kemo and run...etc...instead of just running into bodies in the middle...do something else.

zulater
09-25-2011, 11:34 PM
What the hell was Sanders thinking when he deliberately jumped over a live ball carrier after Ben's interception? About 35 yards of field position difference there.

steelerdiva
09-25-2011, 11:34 PM
No my thread's the best :P

Touche'

siss
09-25-2011, 11:35 PM
When are the Steelers going to protect that 102 million dollar investment?

J. Scott is walking home from Indy!

WHO TOOK THE DEFENSE?

X-Terminator
09-25-2011, 11:36 PM
What the hell was Sanders thinking when he deliberately jumped over a live ball carrier after Ben's interception? About 35 yards of field position difference there.

He realized that it was his fault that interception happened. Seems he hasn't totally grasped the offense yet.

tube517
09-25-2011, 11:37 PM
Whose bright idea was it to think Jonathan Scott is a legit starting LT?

zulater
09-25-2011, 11:42 PM
Whose bright idea was it to think Jonathan Scott is a legit starting LT?

Sean Kugler, our o-line caoch who brought him over from Buffalo

shutdown
09-25-2011, 11:43 PM
Sean Kugler, our o-line caoch who brought him over from Buffalo

I had to explain this to several Steeler fans who asked why this fucker was starting. That is the ONLY explanation I could give them.

Merchant
09-25-2011, 11:47 PM
We need Flozell back. No way can he be worse than Scott.

st33lersguy
09-25-2011, 11:53 PM
If I was Dan Rooney I would cut both Jonathan Scott and William Gay tomorrow and bring in Flozell Adams and Donovan Warren. Recievers were open all night. Had Peyton played he would have thrown for atleast 350 yards and 3 TDs and the Colts would have blown out the Steelers

Pittsburgh43
09-25-2011, 11:59 PM
Sean Kugler, our o-line caoch who brought him over from Buffalo

I wish they'd send him the fuck back to Buffalo. Scott, I mean.

He might be the worst starting tackle of all time. He's down-right terrible.

NCSteeler
09-26-2011, 12:33 AM
A lot to bitch about tonight, but #94 on the colts.....if he danced after another play where he wasn't even involved I would have screamed, what a asshat.

NCSteeler
09-26-2011, 12:38 AM
Okay here goes mine...



2. What on earth has happened to our run defense? The same group, minus Aaron Smith, essentially set nfl history last season with avg rushing yards allowed per game. And the colts o-line isn't considered strong by any means in run-blocking.

5. Where's the pressure? Where's Harrison and Woodley? I know Harrison forced the fumble that Troy took in for the TD.. but I'm talking about over the course of the game. These are supposed to be two of the top five outside linebackers in the league.


I'm mentally exhausted. Add on yours..

Run Defense has got to be the biggest concern, when teams get to running on us regularly it will be very bad. Although Willie gay in the box might be our best defensive set.

OLBers have got to start showing up. I know the bad line play has caused them to look worse then they are, but when Troy missed the hand off on Adais TD, he took the QB because Harrison was supposed to get off his block and have the RB, what a freaking wasted effort. If Troy had not taken over this game in the 4th, this board would be burning right now, we got lucky

Devilsdancefloor
09-26-2011, 01:24 AM
I was there and the oline was opening up some holes for mendy to run BUT he wasnt putting his shoulder down and running he ran to high & was dancing a lot tonight. to be honest a nght when BA could have gone pass happy and we would have been out in the lead with out a problem, so was a bit confused on why they where not just throwing HELL all the dolts fans where saying around us keep running it dont throw. BUT i will take the W

Austin87
09-26-2011, 05:39 AM
I knew our O-line was gonna struggle with pass protection against the Colts D-line, but suddenly they can't run block to save their lives. What's up with that? The whole offensive line looked bad out their, even Pouncey had a bad day.

venom
09-26-2011, 05:41 AM
Ill take the AFC win but it could be a lonnnnnnnnng year

steeldawg
09-26-2011, 06:43 AM
Can someone tell what is up with all the screen plays? We have alot of speed at wr and we are throwing 1 yrd passes for no gain. I thought the oline was bad again , the only positive was that scott got hurt. Its true woodley and harrison have not been doing anyting especially woodley I dont think i have heard his name called once during 3 games. The colts could not move the ball on offense the entire game and then painter comes in and right downthe field for 6? The most troubling thing I have seen is our lack of intensity, where is the fire, where is our attitude. So many fans clamoured for our players to be choir boys and thats exactly what we are playing like. Give me a troubled Ben with something to prove, give me a pissed off harrison and woodley, these guys might not have been role models but when they took the field they were hungry.

st33lersguy
09-26-2011, 06:22 PM
To think that this piece of crap O-line is going to go up against Mario Williams and the defense will have to play Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson next week.

Moose
09-26-2011, 06:24 PM
Before all the Moose bashing starts let me say that I'm really happy for the WIN !! 2-1 is a good place to be sitting. Tied for 1st is a good place to be sitting. But, as I said last week, the win over Seattle didn't impress me. We should have beat them easily by 28+ points, I feel like we we were lucky for that win. Now to the Indy game- I just didn't feel like we were in that game at all. I knew our offense would 'sputter' , but my GOD !! Talk about a LUCKY WIN !! We survived and stole that game. I almost feel that the other teams have OUR PLAY BOOK !! Maybe it's time to change the plays. Indy had defensive players jumping in motion as the ball was being snapped.....before our players even moved....like Indy knew the count, which I believe they did. At the end of the game, Painter came in for Indy and was damn good against our line........and he only touched the ball a few times this year !! What the hell does that say ? Our running game is 'nada', but we just keep trying it and trying it.....and trying it. Oh yea, maybe the 12th time he runs he'll pick up 5 yrds.!!! Are you fu*kin kidding me ? If Mendy isn't picking it up, bring in Redman, or SOMEBODY else.....anybody else. I'm really afraid of the outcome of next weeks game at Houston. If this team plays as they did against Indy, this could really be ugly, Baltimore ugly !! Ben and our offense gave away 13 points in the Indy game. Ben and the offense gave away how many points in the Baltimore game ? This has to stop, which I know I'm not telling you anything you don't know. Just stating the facts. I saw Ben laughing and smiling on the sideline during the Indy game. Although it was toward the end of the game, the game was still far from over. I was pissed. He's smiling ?!! That game wasn't decided until the final seconds. Their 3rd QB was sticking it to us and Ben is smiling ? We just barely escaped Indy with a win that we were picked to win by at least 12 points....and Ben is smiling ?! Ben and the offense gave away 13 points...and Ben is smiling ? We are lucky to be 2-1 after 3 pathetic performances.....and Ben is smiling ? I guess the sideline must be a good, safe place....because sitting and watching this team play so far this year damn sure isn't....I know, cuz I'm NOT SMILING !!

steeldevil
09-26-2011, 06:31 PM
Well written rant. 9 out of 10 from me.

Moose
09-26-2011, 06:33 PM
If the running game doesn't start soon, we're done. Can't count on the offense with Ben throwing inter.and fumbling trying to make something happen. UGH !! The first 3 weeks were sickening. To be honest....I'm thinking the Browns and bungholes may give us all we can handle.

shutdown
09-26-2011, 06:38 PM
That was hard to finish.

SteelerEmpire
09-26-2011, 06:42 PM
I say M. Moore was the best RB last night for the Steelers.

SteelerEmpire
09-26-2011, 06:47 PM
God help us if Troy goes down...

Psycho Ward 86
09-26-2011, 06:55 PM
1. Not sure why Redman wasn't utilized more either - it seems like he consistently makes something happen yet doesn't seem to be rewarded as much as he deserves.

2. What on earth has happened to our run defense? The same group, minus Aaron Smith, essentially set nfl history last season with avg rushing yards allowed per game. And the colts o-line isn't considered strong by any means in run-blocking.

3. Whyyy does Arians keep calling those bubble screens 6+ times every game. They go for 2 yards on avg almost every time.

4. Incredibly infuriating lack of awareness by our boys on the freeney sack/fumble and the interception. They just STARED at the ball as it rolled on the ground and freeney picked it up for the TD. Then Sanders saw the pass picked off right in front of him and failed to lay a finger on the defender so at least the ball would have been at mid-field instead of our 20 yard line.

5. Where's the pressure? Where's Harrison and Woodley? I know Harrison forced the fumble that Troy took in for the TD.. but I'm talking about over the course of the game. These are supposed to be two of the top five outside linebackers in the league.


I'm mentally exhausted. Add on yours..

1) Really? Redman with 3 carries for 6 yards was hardly any better. Hell, last time i checked Mendenhall had the only good run for us on a beautifully read play.

2) We couldnt shut it down early, that's for sure. And Aaron Smith is a huge liability right now. But im going to give him another chance.

3) Easy, to try and substitute for the run game. Plus i think we all figured that 81 yard TD by Wallace would've had the Colts with their ears pinned back at least a little bit, but looks like they knew how vulnerable the O-line was. You'd rather see them keep running into that brick wall? 28 attempts for hardly jack wasnt enough for you?

4) Lol, there's no denying the stupidity involved in those plays. Agreed!

5) ^Ditto

stillers4me
09-26-2011, 06:56 PM
Ben was smiling?

Gasp!!!

Get a grip, people.

It wasn't pretty, but it is W in the win column. Hold onto your underguchies 'coz next Sunday is going to get ugly.

Guess what....our team may not always come out on top. We might not even have a winning season every so often and yep...there's going to be some rough patches as we transition into a younger team. Deal with it.

7willBheaven
09-26-2011, 06:57 PM
YEAH...no smiling allowed!

steeldevil
09-26-2011, 06:58 PM
Ben: "I take this seriously, THIS IS MY JOB!!!"

Derek Anderson style!

zulater
09-26-2011, 07:11 PM
Ben: "I take this seriously, THIS IS MY JOB!!!"

Derek Anderson style!

If you're seriously trying to draw a parallel between Ben and Derek Anderson, then I have to say this might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on a football forum ever! :doh:

steeldevil
09-26-2011, 07:18 PM
If you're seriously trying to draw a parallel between Ben and Derek Anderson, then I have to say this might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on a football forum ever! :doh:

Its a joke. Anderson was smiling on the sideline last year and then had a rant afterward.

HometownGal
09-26-2011, 07:25 PM
Nothing really for me to rant about. We won on the road (by the skin of our asses nonetheless) but we are only 3 games into the season and sitting at 2-1. Am I pissed off at Scott's shoddy play last night? Sure I am, but there's still a lot of football to be played and know the coaches will be working OT to get that OL in some assemblance of order. I BELIEVE! :tt02:

Moose
09-26-2011, 07:56 PM
I'm with you HTG ! I'm praying and believing too. I do have faith in our FO and coaches and think they'll figure something out sooner or later. I'm just hoping not too late though. We just have too much talent to just be barely winning on teams we should be thumping. And 'no' "7willBHeaven", I don't want to see player's on the sideline joking around when they are just getting by and not playing to potential. They aren't high school kids anymore. I would think they would be pissed at themselves, and wanting to do better. Working harder at practice and games. I'm not saying they aren't working hard at practice, I'm sure Tomlin and the other coaches are making sure of that. But don't let the fan's ( on national TV especially) see you in good humor when playing under par and just 'getting by'. You may be satisfied with it, I'm not. Just my opinion.

GBMelBlount
09-26-2011, 07:56 PM
80% of our problems are because of the poor O line play.

7willBheaven
09-26-2011, 08:46 PM
I'm with you HTG ! I'm praying and believing too. I do have faith in our FO and coaches and think they'll figure something out sooner or later. I'm just hoping not too late though. We just have too much talent to just be barely winning on teams we should be thumping. And 'no' "7willBHeaven", I don't want to see player's on the sideline joking around when they are just getting by and not playing to potential. They aren't high school kids anymore. I would think they would be pissed at themselves, and wanting to do better. Working harder at practice and games. I'm not saying they aren't working hard at practice, I'm sure Tomlin and the other coaches are making sure of that. But don't let the fan's ( on national TV especially) see you in good humor when playing under par and just 'getting by'. You may be satisfied with it, I'm not. Just my opinion.

I think its just stupid complaining about a player smiling/etc on the sideline...it has nothing to do with the game or anything. Plus who knows what was going on before that...someone maybe told a joke or whatever who knows...though you'd probably have a problem with that too so who knows. Someone smiling or not on the sideline has nothing to do with the game and how a game goes. If he was out on the field laughin and running around acting a fool and not playing football...ok...but someone smiling or not on the sideline doesnt mean crap. Jeeez.

HometownGal
09-26-2011, 08:54 PM
I'm with you HTG ! I'm praying and believing too. I do have faith in our FO and coaches and think they'll figure something out sooner or later. I'm just hoping not too late though. We just have too much talent to just be barely winning on teams we should be thumping. And 'no' "7willBHeaven", I don't want to see player's on the sideline joking around when they are just getting by and not playing to potential. They aren't high school kids anymore. I would think they would be pissed at themselves, and wanting to do better. Working harder at practice and games. I'm not saying they aren't working hard at practice, I'm sure Tomlin and the other coaches are making sure of that. But don't let the fan's ( on national TV especially) see you in good humor when playing under par and just 'getting by'. You may be satisfied with it, I'm not. Just my opinion.

If we were at Game 7 or 8, I'd be a lot more concerned than I am going into Game #4. I also believe a "gloom and doom" attitude on the sidelines can do more harm than good and become infectious. The bottom line is that they won - on the road - definitely not playing their best. There is a ton of time for improvement - that alone is on their side.

X-Terminator
09-26-2011, 09:08 PM
I'm with you HTG ! I'm praying and believing too. I do have faith in our FO and coaches and think they'll figure something out sooner or later. I'm just hoping not too late though. We just have too much talent to just be barely winning on teams we should be thumping. And 'no' "7willBHeaven", I don't want to see player's on the sideline joking around when they are just getting by and not playing to potential. They aren't high school kids anymore. I would think they would be pissed at themselves, and wanting to do better. Working harder at practice and games. I'm not saying they aren't working hard at practice, I'm sure Tomlin and the other coaches are making sure of that. But don't let the fan's ( on national TV especially) see you in good humor when playing under par and just 'getting by'. You may be satisfied with it, I'm not. Just my opinion.

Sorry man, but I think you're overreacting to the laughing on the sideline. Just because they are doesn't mean they don't take their jobs seriously or are happy with the way they've played. Do you think for one second that Mike Tomlin would put up with that? These guys know what's at stake and they are fully aware of the problems they've been having. And as for barely beating teams they should be thumping and getting on Ben for his turnovers...it's a little tough for him to play to his potential when he has a bunch of turnstiles for offensive linemen. That is the organization's fault, not Ben's, because they are the ones who refuse to upgrade the OL and then ask Ben and the offense to try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. It's a miracle the man was able to throw for 364 yards last night despite running for his life most of the game. He would commit far fewer turnovers if he didn't have to worry about someone being in his face as soon as the ball is snapped on every play or had something resembling a running game. Look at all of the "elite" QBs...all of them play behind far superior OL that allows them to play to their potential. Give Ben the same, and he puts up the same numbers.

7willBheaven
09-26-2011, 09:11 PM
Sorry man, but I think you're overreacting to the laughing on the sideline. Just because they are doesn't mean they don't take their jobs seriously or are happy with the way they've played. Do you think for one second that Mike Tomlin would put up with that? These guys know what's at stake and they are fully aware of the problems they've been having. And as for barely beating teams they should be thumping and getting on Ben for his turnovers...it's a little tough for him to play to his potential when he has a bunch of turnstiles for offensive linemen. That is the organization's fault, not Ben's, because they are the ones who refuse to upgrade the OL and then ask Ben and the offense to try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. It's a miracle the man was able to throw for 364 yards last night despite running for his life most of the game. He would commit far fewer turnovers if he didn't have to worry about someone being in his face as soon as the ball is snapped on every play or had something resembling a running game. Look at all of the "elite" QBs...all of them play behind far superior OL that allows them to play to their potential. Give Ben the same, and he puts up the same numbers.

Very well said.

Godfather
09-26-2011, 09:37 PM
I might be in the minority but I don't think the coaches did that bad a job last night. You can blame them for the composition of the roster, but that's not a problem specific to last night.

We had issues with execution. The coaches didn't turn the ball over three times and give Indy 13 points when we should have been putting the game away.

And they made a couple of good adjustments in the fourth quarter. First one was when Addai started running it down our throats. We just sent Troy on a run blitz a couple of times, thereby forcing Jamarcus Painter to throw. Second good adjustment was putting MeMo in with the game on the line. Much smarter back, good receiver out of the backfield, and fresh legs.

Moose
09-26-2011, 09:40 PM
My bad, guess you all are right on the sideline crap. Guess I'm just 'venting' because of the way they are playing. Usually I get on the MC and ride awhile, but the weather hasn't been co-operating here in the Hoosier state. I'm just not used to the Black/Yellow not hammering on teams we should be, and just 'escaping' with the win. HTG, X-Terminator and 7willBHeaven---good posts and thanks for letting me vent some. Hopefully in a few weeks when our team has it all together and we are beating teams handedly we can look back at these threads and remember how terrible it was the first few weeks.. GO STEELER's.

Godfather
09-26-2011, 09:40 PM
Sorry man, but I think you're overreacting to the laughing on the sideline. Just because they are doesn't mean they don't take their jobs seriously or are happy with the way they've played. Do you think for one second that Mike Tomlin would put up with that? These guys know what's at stake and they are fully aware of the problems they've been having.

You're right, but it's still irritating to see a player laugh after he makes a big mistake. One guy (can't remember who) said a few years ago that if he goes to a restaurant and gets a lousy meal, he doesn't yell "BOOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU SUCK!!!!" at the wait staff and the cook. I think that analogy comes into play here as well--how would you feel if they screwed up your order and you saw them laughing after they found out? Or if you hired a contractor who did a lousy job on your house and laughed? I think the fans feel the same way. We want the players to hate losing as much as we do and when they laugh it LOOKS like they don't care enough.

Saints fans hated Aaron Brooks because he'd make a bonehead play on the field, turn the ball over, and stand on the sidelines laughing.

Nadroj 20
09-26-2011, 09:41 PM
I might be in the minority but I don't think the coaches did that bad a job last night. You can blame them for the composition of the roster, but that's not a problem specific to last night.

We had issues with execution. The coaches didn't turn the ball over three times and give Indy 13 points when we should have been putting the game away.

And they made a couple of good adjustments in the fourth quarter. First one was when Addai started running it down our throats. We just sent Troy on a run blitz a couple of times, thereby forcing Jamarcus Painter to throw. Second good adjustment was putting MeMo in with the game on the line. Much smarter back, good receiver out of the backfield, and fresh legs.

:rofl:

Moose
09-26-2011, 09:44 PM
Thanks Godfather....that was kinda my thoughts too, guess I just didn't explain as well as you did.

X-Terminator
09-27-2011, 01:43 AM
My bad, guess you all are right on the sideline crap. Guess I'm just 'venting' because of the way they are playing. Usually I get on the MC and ride awhile, but the weather hasn't been co-operating here in the Hoosier state. I'm just not used to the Black/Yellow not hammering on teams we should be, and just 'escaping' with the win. HTG, X-Terminator and 7willBHeaven---good posts and thanks for letting me vent some. Hopefully in a few weeks when our team has it all together and we are beating teams handedly we can look back at these threads and remember how terrible it was the first few weeks.. GO STEELER's.


You're right, but it's still irritating to see a player laugh after he makes a big mistake. One guy (can't remember who) said a few years ago that if he goes to a restaurant and gets a lousy meal, he doesn't yell "BOOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU SUCK!!!!" at the wait staff and the cook. I think that analogy comes into play here as well--how would you feel if they screwed up your order and you saw them laughing after they found out? Or if you hired a contractor who did a lousy job on your house and laughed? I think the fans feel the same way. We want the players to hate losing as much as we do and when they laugh it LOOKS like they don't care enough.

Saints fans hated Aaron Brooks because he'd make a bonehead play on the field, turn the ball over, and stand on the sidelines laughing.

Don't have a problem with you or anyone else venting - that's why this thread was created. Believe me, I am every bit as concerned as you two are and used a few choice words of my own last night when I was watching Dwight Freeney make Jon Scott call him Daddy and Mendenhall tiptoeing around because the OL couldn't open up a hole if they were on the field by themselves. But I would never doubt that those guys care. If they didn't, they wouldn't be Steelers.

O'Malley
09-27-2011, 12:54 PM
Sorry man, but I think you're overreacting to the laughing on the sideline. Just because they are doesn't mean they don't take their jobs seriously or are happy with the way they've played. Do you think for one second that Mike Tomlin would put up with that? These guys know what's at stake and they are fully aware of the problems they've been having. And as for barely beating teams they should be thumping and getting on Ben for his turnovers...it's a little tough for him to play to his potential when he has a bunch of turnstiles for offensive linemen. That is the organization's fault, not Ben's, because they are the ones who refuse to upgrade the OL and then ask Ben and the offense to try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. It's a miracle the man was able to throw for 364 yards last night despite running for his life most of the game. He would commit far fewer turnovers if he didn't have to worry about someone being in his face as soon as the ball is snapped on every play or had something resembling a running game. Look at all of the "elite" QBs...all of them play behind far superior OL that allows them to play to their potential. Give Ben the same, and he puts up the same numbers.

^This^