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stillers4me
09-14-2011, 05:32 PM
Casey Hampton did not complain but he did confirm today what his teammates had been saying this week, that the Baltimore Ravens targeted the Steelers Pro Bowl nose tackle with illegal chop blocks for much of their game on Sunday.

An illegal chop block occurs when an offensive player engages a defensive player -- blocking him, usually straight up -- while another offensive player comes in to block the defensive player below the waist.

It's considered one of the most dangerous blocks in football, which is why it's been illegal for a long time. A defensive player's knees are more vulnerable to severe injury in such a double-team.

Linebacker Lawrence Timmons blew the whistle on the Ravens Tuesday night on the radio and both Hampton and linebacker James Farrior confirmed it today...........

read more @ http://burgh.us/7pu

stillers4me
09-14-2011, 05:32 PM
And here I thought Harbaugh's guys "got it". :noidea:

steeldevil
09-14-2011, 06:20 PM
Uh... Why the hell wouldn't Hampton tell the refs about it?

fansince'76
09-14-2011, 06:27 PM
Hate to say it, but it sounds like sour grapes at this point.

JayC
09-14-2011, 06:37 PM
leave the whining to the seahawks fans and players

salamander
09-14-2011, 06:43 PM
We're not the Ravens or Seahawks fans so our players better stop bitching.

Count Steeler
09-14-2011, 06:45 PM
Enough already. Send a complaint to the league with the video evidence and move on. Focus on the next game.

Crow-Magnon
09-14-2011, 06:45 PM
Hate to say it, but it sounds like sour grapes at this point.

Thank you.

One chop block maybe gets glossed over. When it happens two, three or four times, someone on the OL (or the OL coach) is going to complain to the officials.

Psycho Ward 86
09-14-2011, 06:50 PM
i dont give a damn. the ravens smoked us like a tailgate barbecue. to say that it would have even been close without the supposed "illegal blocks" would be idiotic. Illegal blocks or not, they didn't force the offense to turn the ball over 7 times. I mean damn. I'll leave the whining for the seahawks fans. Since we're playing them this weekend with Levy reffing it shouldn't take long :rofl2:

SteelerFanInStl
09-14-2011, 07:00 PM
Hate to say it, but it sounds like sour grapes at this point.

I agree. If it happened, then talk to the officials about it. Don't take it to the media afterwards. I'd rather that it be kept in house.

zulater
09-14-2011, 07:05 PM
Nothing Casey could have said or done would have changed the way the refs enforced the rules last Sunday. But this is good ( and certainly not whining) for it to come out now. If the films support what the Steelers claim's are, then before we face them again Nov. 6, the Steelers need to show that visual evidence to the league office, and make sure the league knows that if it happens in Pittsburgh there will be retaliatory actions taken by the Steelers. In other words I think making a quite stink of it to the league a week or so before the rematch will force the ravens to change their tactics. And operating within the rules, they will not run on the Steelers!

Edman
09-14-2011, 07:35 PM
Reeks of sour grapes to me. For shame, Casey.

"Illegal blocking" didn't give up 35 points and force seven turnovers on offense. The Steelers got whipped, whooped, curbstomped, and embarrassed. No if's, ands, or buts about it. Too many issues with this team to whine about chop blocks.

X-Terminator
09-14-2011, 08:04 PM
I agree with the general consensus here. Stop whining and get ready for Sunday. We aren't the Seahawks or Cardinals.

86WARD
09-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Not really:


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715459/Chop1_presnap_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715459/Chop1_presnap.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715463/Chop1_engage_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715463/Chop1_engage.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715471/Chop1_chopblock_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715471/Chop1_chopblock.jpg)

AND:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715475/Chop2_presnap_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715475/Chop2_presnap.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715479/Chop2_engage_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715479/Chop2_engage.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715483/Chop2_chopblock_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715483/Chop2_chopblock.jpg)

86WARD
09-14-2011, 08:12 PM
If the Steelers did that, Harbaugh would be up in arms...

beSteelmyheart
09-14-2011, 08:46 PM
Interesting photos...especially # 3.. But I agree, it's sour grapes. Nothing they can do about it now & we can hope that they show up for the rematch.

O'Malley
09-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Should have been called... But should not have been brought up after the fact. Either do something about it when it happens or shut up and play ball... You wear Black and Gold act like it!!!!!

st33lersguy
09-14-2011, 08:55 PM
Uh... Why the hell wouldn't Hampton tell the refs about it?

Because they wouldn't do anything.

I love how Ed Reed calls Hines Ward a dirty player yet his team uses dangerous chop-blocking techniques. They are a bunch of hypocrites and losing to them by 4 TDs makes last weeks loss even more tragic

SteelerEmpire
09-14-2011, 08:56 PM
It's gonna be a messy night November 6th...

Devilsdancefloor
09-14-2011, 09:00 PM
send all the video to the league office and then let it go , if you where going to be a man about it durning the game , then be a man after the game and let it go! sour grapes indeed! i cant wait for the rematch

beSteelmyheart
09-14-2011, 09:18 PM
It's gonna be a messy night November 6th...
I can't wait!!:tt03:

steel striker
09-14-2011, 11:05 PM
no doubt about it should have been called but. they still beat the crap out of us. Time to get ready for the sea hawks and, we will see these guys again. We all know that Harbaugh would have cried the blues to worthless Roger about this. I remember during the game Harbaugh was losing his mind about a call that happened.

steelerdiva
09-14-2011, 11:08 PM
It's over.
Done.
Fugeddaboutit.
Time to move on.
I don't want to hear anymore about the Ratbirds until November. We have the Seachickens this Sunday and that's all the Steelers need to focus on.

Mach1
09-14-2011, 11:22 PM
I guess if you call this whining.

"It is what it is, I don't cry about stuff like that,'' Hampton said.


That shit could end somebodys career.

zulater
09-14-2011, 11:29 PM
I guess if you call this whining.

"It is what it is, I don't cry about stuff like that,'' Hampton said.


That shit could end somebodys career.

Well said Mach.

NCSteeler
09-15-2011, 12:06 AM
I guess if you call this whining.

"It is what it is, I don't cry about stuff like that,'' Hampton said.


That shit could end somebodys career.

Yeah, I think some commented without reading the story.

Craic
09-15-2011, 12:20 AM
I guess if you call this whining.

"It is what it is, I don't cry about stuff like that,'' Hampton said.


That shit could end somebodys career.


Yeah, I think some commented without reading the story.

I think the issue is more of, why did Timmons comment on it? Nobody's calling out Hampton.

suitanim
09-15-2011, 05:20 AM
They were chop blocking. It started on the first play. But it's not some great mystery that the Rats play dirty. Hampton should have walked right over to the ref after the first play and simply said "Keep an eye on the illegal chop blocks".

It's not am excuse for the loss, since the Steelers would have lost the game regardless, but illegal is still illegal, and those blocks are illegal because they are dangerous. This is supposed to be about safety, right?

zulater
09-15-2011, 05:28 AM
They were chop blocking. It started on the first play. But it's not some great mystery that the Rats play dirty. Hampton should have walked right over to the ref after the first play and simply said "Keep an eye on the illegal chop blocks".

It's not am excuse for the loss, since the Steelers would have lost the game regardless, but illegal is still illegal, and those blocks are illegal because they are dangerous. This is supposed to be about safety, right?

Only if you carry the ball and are subject to have your hits played out on replay.

X-Terminator
09-15-2011, 05:52 AM
I still think it's sour grapes. If it was a problem from the first snap and it was going on the whole game, why didn't anyone say anything to the refs? Why bring it to the media after the fact? If we're going to make fun and criticize John Harbaugh for whining endlessly, then we can't ignore when our guys do it.

zulater
09-15-2011, 06:00 AM
I still think it's sour grapes. If it was a problem from the first snap and it was going on the whole game, why didn't anyone say anything to the refs? Why bring it to the media after the fact? If we're going to make fun and criticize John Harbaugh for whining endlessly, then we can't ignore when our guys do it.

I don't think this is something that will be belabored by the Steelers, but if it's not exposed to the light now you'll be subject to a repeat performance in Pittsburgh Nov 6. You're damn right I want the steelers to make an issue of this to the league office before then. And thanks to Ed B for carrying the team's water here.

zulater
09-15-2011, 06:04 AM
Hampton said he was blatantly chopped by Yanda on the first play of the game that resulted in a 36-yard Ray Rice run that set up Baltimore's first touchdown. Hampton was either cut or chopped on Baltimore's first four run plays.

"There is really nothing you can do when you are engaged and fighting with a guy and they come chopping at your legs," Hampton said. "If it keeps happening, something is going to have to happen. I can't keep getting chopped up like that when I am engaged."



Read more: Steelers defense concerned about cut blocks - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_756859.html#ixzz1Y1BFfUp9

tube517
09-15-2011, 07:32 AM
I am not going to hold my breath on the refs calling anything in the Steelers' favor. :coffee:

fansince'76
09-15-2011, 07:34 AM
I am not going to hold my breath on the refs calling anything in the Steelers' favor. :coffee:

Bu, bu, but DA STEALERS HAVE DA REFFS IN DERE BACK POCKITS! :rolleyes:

86WARD
09-15-2011, 09:31 AM
Bu, bu, but DA STEALERS HAVE DA REFFS IN DERE BACK POCKITS! :rolleyes:

Lmao

GodfatherofSoul
09-15-2011, 10:06 AM
Lmao

Those were great pics man. Extremely dangerous play and it almost looks like they were trying to hurt him. I saw a replay of how Colon got hurt and (probably unrelated) but a defender basically came up and hit him in the back. When people are going at you like that, you're going to back off. That's how Mike Shannahan "developed" his stellar running game in Denver.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-15-2011, 10:40 AM
Not really:


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715459/Chop1_presnap_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715459/Chop1_presnap.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715463/Chop1_engage_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715463/Chop1_engage.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715471/Chop1_chopblock_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715471/Chop1_chopblock.jpg)

AND:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715475/Chop2_presnap_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715475/Chop2_presnap.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715479/Chop2_engage_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715479/Chop2_engage.jpg)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715483/Chop2_chopblock_medium.jpg (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/715483/Chop2_chopblock.jpg)







Great Screenshots!!! THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF "ZONE BLOCKING"!! You can see all the linemen take a step left and move that way in somewhat unison. It is then the RB's job to select his hole (in this case he starts with following the FB) or he can cut it back.

The Bronco's uses Zone schemes better than anybody over the past decade and Coach Alex Gibbs was the master. They often were accused of illegally cut blocking in that scheme too.

86WARD
09-15-2011, 10:41 AM
They were on some website...can't remember which one. I want to say steelers depot, but I could be wrong. Shows what they are talking about perfectly.

Pristas
09-15-2011, 12:09 PM
I'm not a fan of making excuses, and I don't think that's really what this is. It's more serious than "sour grapes" too. Had Casey been put on IR, this would have blown up in the media ad the Ravens would lose any credibility they had as a team. If I were a Ravens fan, I would be pissed as hell that this went down. By the photo evidence it's obvious that this was part of the game plan. It also worked perfectly. I was wondering how Rice was running on us with such efficiency, especially in the first game of the season. With Hampton chopped from the weak side guard, it allows the other guard to take out the linebackers. There's a reason this is an illegal block and I would love to see the media latch on to this story.

I'm not saying that the outcome would have been any different, but at least we could still have a little pride in our run stuffing ability. This "being able to run on us" is all new.

If the roles were reversed, I would be livid that our coaching staff allowed this. What is sad is that they didn't need this to win, but employed the illegal technique anyway. Fcuk you Harbaugh.

And since I haven't said it yet, Congrats to the Ravens and their fans, you definitely had the better team last weekend. This debacle had nothing to do with your players who absolutely manhandled us. Your coaching staff is a bit suspect though.

Spike
09-15-2011, 01:23 PM
leave the whining to the seahawks fans and players

ayep - just shut up and play - i knew what would happen when this story got out. The story is up on PFT now and the Steelers are taking a beating for being whiners

fansince'76
09-15-2011, 01:29 PM
ayep - just shut up and play - i knew what would happen when this story got out. The story is up on PFT now and the Steelers are taking a beating for being whiners

Sure, it's not like every other fanbase in the league pisses and moans endlessly about Ward, Harrison, and basically everyone else on the damn team as being "dirty."

Hypocrisy much? :coffee:

EDIT: The "hypocrisy" comment is not directed at you, but the slack-jawed morons with comments under the article.

Spike
09-15-2011, 01:46 PM
I got nothing against Casey taking care of his knees, but I would have preferred they quietly sent the tapes to the league office and deal with it internally

nobody likes a team complaining after a big loss that the other guys weren't playing fair

Once you get the whiner label, it's hard to shake...see: Seahwaks

zulater
09-15-2011, 01:48 PM
ayep - just shut up and play - i knew what would happen when this story got out. The story is up on PFT now and the Steelers are taking a beating for being whiners

So what? Its not as if we're not playing this team again in just a few weeks. If their "whining" gets the league's attention, and rules are enforced properly next game, advantage us.

zulater
09-15-2011, 01:49 PM
I got nothing against Casey taking care of his knees, but I would have preferred they quietly sent the tapes to the league office and deal with it internally

nobody likes a team complaining after a big loss that the other guys weren't playing fair

Once you get the whiner label, it's hard to shake...see: Seahwaks

The league only takes notice when the media does.

fansince'76
09-15-2011, 01:53 PM
The league only takes notice when the media does.

Yep - see "Concussion-gate (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5706465)" last October and Goodell's knee-jerk (over)reaction to it.

Spike
09-15-2011, 02:12 PM
Goodell doesn't give a crap about defensive players getting hurt - - only the fantasy players like QB's and WR's

kmsteelerwr15
09-15-2011, 02:15 PM
Looks like it happened but who cares at this point. It would not have made any difference. Move on and forget about it

zulater
09-15-2011, 02:18 PM
Looks like it happened but who cares at this point. It would not have made any difference. Move on and forget about it

We play them again Nov. 6. Might be a good idea to address this with the league before then no? Maybe the league will say they did nothing wrong, but at least you'll know going in that's how we're playing it.

Spike
09-15-2011, 03:09 PM
Steelers weren't biting on Warren Sapp comments; Hines laughed off comment about Sapp's 13-year-old daughter being able to cover him.

lamarr woodley on warren sapp calling the steelers slow and done: "we've heard the wind blow before"

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...orts/steelers/

tube517
09-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Steelers weren't biting on Warren Sapp comments; Hines laughed off comment about Sapp's 13-year-old daughter being able to cover him.

lamarr woodley on warren sapp calling the steelers slow and done: "we've heard the wind blow before"

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...orts/steelers/

Warren Sapp is a known Steeler hater since Lee Flowers' paper champions quote. He used to dance around the Steelers "area" in the pregame warmups. He's another reason I don't watch NFLN that much anymore.

Burghfan58
09-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Hate to say it, but it sounds like sour grapes at this point.

I agree. Just log it in the memory bank and kick their ass next time.

Dino 6 Rings
09-15-2011, 03:47 PM
Hey wasn't this mentioned already...well yes...yes it was...

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/9766-After-further-review-…-Steelers-Ravens

Devilsdancefloor
09-15-2011, 04:00 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/15/steelers-apparently-dont-understand-the-chop-block-rule/


Well i guess it is all legal as long as it is a center & guard doing it

suitanim
09-15-2011, 04:34 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/15/steelers-apparently-dont-understand-the-chop-block-rule/


Well i guess it is all legal as long as it is a center & guard doing it

Wow. Learned something new.


BUUUUUUT, if safety is the new mandate, then this needs to be addressed. As I said before, the game wasn't decided by this, but if a DL has his career ended by a cheap practice (even if it IS legal), consistency dictates that this be nipped in the bud.

Let's think about this another way. I've been a Steeler fan a long time. We've had a lot of bad losses. I don't EVER remember any players making excuses like this, so publicly, that were also clearly backed up by video evidence. I think the new rules and the new emphasis on safety works both ways, even when it effects players who don't play QB for the Patriots, and the NFL is now reaping what it so diligently sowed.

Count Steeler
09-15-2011, 04:39 PM
Wait till they do it to the Pats*. Then Brady will call Rog and things will start to change.

fansince'76
09-15-2011, 04:44 PM
Didn't Eric Berry just get his season ended with a torn ACL on a "legal" (low) block?

X-Terminator
09-15-2011, 05:07 PM
I didn't know that block was legal either, which is all the more reason for them to have not said anything about it. When will players learn to keep their dirty laundry out of the media?

fansince'76
09-15-2011, 05:22 PM
I didn't know that block was legal either, which is all the more reason for them to have not said anything about it. When will players learn to keep their dirty laundry out of the media?

It will quickly become illegal if Ngata or Suh or Peppers, etc. have a season, not to mention possibly a career, ended by it. That being said, once again I agree that they shouldn't have squawked to the media about it.

steelerdude15
09-15-2011, 05:25 PM
Please, let's not become the Ravens.

SteelerFanInStl
09-15-2011, 05:46 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/15/steelers-apparently-dont-understand-the-chop-block-rule/


Well i guess it is all legal as long as it is a center & guard doing it

I didn't know that was legal either. Pretty comical to read some of those comments from the haters. I would guarantee that 95% of them didn't know the exact rule either.

suitanim
09-15-2011, 06:11 PM
None of that addresses the fact that it's still, at least ostensibly, a dangerous practice.

Isn't the league all about safety now? Or isn't it?

Count Steeler
09-15-2011, 06:41 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/15/steelers-apparently-dont-understand-the-chop-block-rule/


Well i guess it is all legal as long as it is a center & guard doing it

So taking out a knee is OK unless the guy came from more than 1 position over? Player Safety? Yeah right!

Pristas
09-15-2011, 07:46 PM
From what I am gathering here, it looks as if it is a legal practice, even though the players don't agree with it. I have a feeling that this is one of those unspoken rules of the game... you just don't do it, because it's ugly. Teams that employ this type of technique are bound to have it used on them. I imagine many of the players feel the same way... if you can't get it done without cutblocks, then you're simply not man enough to do it otherwise.

Moose
09-15-2011, 07:53 PM
Ditto Psycho Ward 86 !!! They got their asses kicked and handed to them, so now comes the cries and excuses. The team 'flat-out' got out played and out coached from ALL areas....period. Forget about it and LEARN FROM IT !!! They'll see each other again in November......get even or get pounded again. Come on week # 2 !!!

zulater
09-15-2011, 07:55 PM
Prior to this game the Ravens never employed cut blocking techniques, at least not against the Steelers. That they did so this game tells you how sleezy Harbaugh is.

86WARD
09-15-2011, 08:20 PM
People don't know the rule because all that has been "taught" is if a player is engaged with an offensive lineman and another player comes in, it's a "chop block."

Count Steeler
09-15-2011, 08:41 PM
Prior to this game the Ravens never employed cut blocking techniques, at least not against the Steelers. That they did so this game tells you how sleezy Harbaugh is.

His guys "get it".

fansince'76
09-15-2011, 08:50 PM
Well if it's legal, fine. But if Ngata gets a knee blown out due to the same blocking technique being employed against the Ravens, it will fall on deaf ears as far as I'm concerned when Harbaugh predictably and inevitably screams bloody murder over it. :coffee:

Devilsdancefloor
09-15-2011, 09:18 PM
before nov 6 theyneed to break out old tapes of the broncos they used to love this type of blocking.

BigNastyDefense
09-16-2011, 12:08 AM
Well, it's legal?

The I say fight fire with fucking fire. We're already the dirtiest team in the NFL according to most fans. When they come to our house on November 6th....we use these techniques on their guys. If they get injured because of it, too fucking bad.

Not to mention, this blocking technique could help our craptastic offensive line. I remember the Shannahan Broncos doing this shit all the time, and they often didn't have high profile linemen.

Count Steeler
09-16-2011, 06:32 AM
Are you sure there is no fine print that bans the Steelers from using this technique? If we employ this tactic, how much you want to bet Kemo gets fined?

Iron Steeler
09-16-2011, 07:18 AM
Just admit i guys. You didn't show up Sunday. They did. A couple of illegal blocks wouldn't have change the out come of the game. All you can do now os focus on the seahawks and vent all your anger in them

HometownGal
09-16-2011, 07:24 AM
Hate to say it, but it sounds like sour grapes at this point.

I agree. We got our asses handed to us by the Rats, the game is over and no amount of B & M'ing is going to change the outcome. Move on to the Seasquawks.

Spike
09-16-2011, 08:38 AM
Titans..."If Ravens chop block, then hurt them too"

And now the situation has gone to a new level, with Titans defensive coordinator Jerry Gray explaining that the Titans will fight the Ravens’ fire with a little fire of their own.

“They’re trying to cut you and do those things,” Gray said, per John Glennon of the Tennessean. “You’ve got to make sure you’re doing something that’s hopefully going to hurt them, too. You can’t just be the recipient of everything. You’ve got to start doing something that’s going to get you back on track and hopefully they’ll tone that stuff down when you do something else.”

http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2...hurt-them-too/

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Now it's getting good

Chidi29
09-16-2011, 09:26 AM
Prior to this game the Ravens never employed cut blocking techniques, at least not against the Steelers. That they did so this game tells you how sleezy Harbaugh is.

Or it tells yuo he got tired of losing and found out a way to run the ball against us. One of the few teams that have.

BigNastyDefense
09-16-2011, 02:35 PM
Titans..."If Ravens chop block, then hurt them too"

And now the situation has gone to a new level, with Titans defensive coordinator Jerry Gray explaining that the Titans will fight the Ravens’ fire with a little fire of their own.

“They’re trying to cut you and do those things,” Gray said, per John Glennon of the Tennessean. “You’ve got to make sure you’re doing something that’s hopefully going to hurt them, too. You can’t just be the recipient of everything. You’ve got to start doing something that’s going to get you back on track and hopefully they’ll tone that stuff down when you do something else.”

http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2...hurt-them-too/

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Now it's getting good

And if Ngata or someone gets their season ended when the Titans do it to them, I don't wanna hear Harbaugh bitching afterwards about it. Don't use tactics that are dirty if you don't want them used against you.

O'Malley
09-16-2011, 02:48 PM
A Baltimore fan told me on another site that their blocking was legal. Due to the Tackle doing the cutting being two positions over and not the Guard. Can't make heads of tails about this anybody know if he is right or wrong? He said if it was the Guard doing the cut block it woiuld be illegal but since the Tackle did the cut it was legal.. I was under the impression that a cut is a cut.. Thoughts?

Chidi29
09-16-2011, 03:26 PM
A Baltimore fan told me on another site that their blocking was legal. Due to the Tackle doing the cutting being two positions over and not the Guard. Can't make heads of tails about this anybody know if he is right or wrong? He said if it was the Guard doing the cut block it woiuld be illegal but since the Tackle did the cut it was legal.. I was under the impression that a cut is a cut.. Thoughts?

According to PFT, which was news to me, it's actually the opposite. If a player two positions away does it, it is illegal. If the guard cuts with the defensive player engaged by the center (or tackle with the guard), it is a legal block.

I always thought a cut was a cut too. Isn't any safer for the guard to do it than the tackle.

suitanim
09-16-2011, 03:45 PM
I take the Tits chiming in on as exonerating Hampton. It ain't sour grapes if a team that hasn't played them yet agrees and comments on it.

SteelMember
09-16-2011, 03:47 PM
He's just concerned about his knees. He probably needs them to play. Go figure.

O'Malley
09-16-2011, 04:19 PM
According to PFT, which was news to me, it's actually the opposite. If a player two positions away does it, it is illegal. If the guard cuts with the defensive player engaged by the center (or tackle with the guard), it is a legal block.

I always thought a cut was a cut too. Isn't any safer for the guard to do it than the tackle.

Thanx Chidi.. This needs to be changed for sure.. Most dangerous play in football. Cut blocks should be illegal period!
Going low when a man is egaged up top is dangerous and could end a players career. With that said we should start doing it while it's still legal. Get while the getting is good.

steel striker
09-16-2011, 05:46 PM
I think cut blocks should not be in the game and, I understand why players get upset about. It will end their season and, maybe there nfl life. Next thing that needs to go is the tuck rule. Harbaugh always cries about something after every raven loss and, after a big win by them last Sunday he acted like a coach that won a super bowl the only missing was the confetti. Act like you have been there before.

BigNastyDefense
09-16-2011, 05:56 PM
The only way this practice gets totally banned is when it happens to a Patriots* linemen and he gets his season ended.

O'Malley
09-16-2011, 06:06 PM
Have to agree Big!!!

Count Steeler
09-16-2011, 08:04 PM
I think cut blocks should not be in the game and, I understand why players get upset about. It will end their season and, maybe there nfl life. Next thing that needs to go is the tuck rule. Harbaugh always cries about something after every raven loss and, after a big win by them last Sunday he acted like a coach that won a super bowl the only missing was the confetti. Act like you have been there before.

But he hasn't. Never will.

GodfatherofSoul
09-16-2011, 09:27 PM
I take the Tits chiming in on as exonerating Hampton. It ain't sour grapes if a team that hasn't played them yet agrees and comments on it.

QFT, players aren't stupid. They watched the game film and saw what the Ravens were doing. No one wants to have a multimillion dollar career cut short because some dipshit coach is teaching his players dirty tactics.

zulater
09-16-2011, 09:55 PM
I think cut blocks should not be in the game and, I understand why players get upset about. It will end their season and, maybe there nfl life. Next thing that needs to go is the tuck rule. Harbaugh always cries about something after every raven loss and, after a big win by them last Sunday he acted like a coach that won a super bowl the only missing was the confetti. Act like you have been there before.

Any questions I had about Harbaugh were dispelled last Sunday. He's a classless piece of shit, win or lose. Wouldn't want him to coach my team ever.

Devilsdancefloor
09-16-2011, 09:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc&feature=related

for some reason this song has been going thru my head when i read this stuff :noidea: but i am guessing the ravens will have a big let down this weekend since they played with so much emotion last week and when they start this with the titans they might get a bit of their own medicine and harbaugh will be crying and whining

zulater
09-16-2011, 09:58 PM
And if Ngata or someone gets their season ended when the Titans do it to them, I don't wanna hear Harbaugh bitching afterwards about it. Don't use tactics that are dirty if you don't want them used against you.

Yep, and while I have nothing against Ngata, the guy's a beast, in a good way, it would serve the Ravens right if they lost him to a season ending injury by getting a taste of their own medicine.

zulater
09-16-2011, 10:04 PM
Or it tells yuo he got tired of losing and found out a way to run the ball against us. One of the few teams that have.

He won this battle, but it may come back to haunt him in the end. I'm a horseman, there's people in my business that employ tactics that I would never use, even though I know the short term benefits are substantial. It's called having ethics, knowing the difference between right and wrong, and not going counter to your conscience.

BigNastyDefense
09-16-2011, 10:49 PM
Yep, and while I have nothing against Ngata, the guy's a beast, in a good way, it would serve the Ravens right if they lost him to a season ending injury by getting a taste of their own medicine.

I love watching Ngata play, and I don't wish injury on anyone (horrible karma), but I wouldn't feel the least bit bad if they lost their best defensive player due to a team fighting fire with fire and using the legal cut blocks on him.

O'Malley
09-16-2011, 11:56 PM
I love watching Ngata play, and I don't wish injury on anyone (horrible karma), but I wouldn't feel the least bit bad if they lost their best defensive player due to a team fighting fire with fire and using the legal cut blocks on him.
^this^
I too would not wish it on anyone... But what you said Big!!!!

86WARD
09-17-2011, 07:21 AM
None of that addresses the fact that it's still, at least ostensibly, a dangerous practice.

Isn't the league all about safety now? Or isn't it?

I thought so. Players have been fined for it in the past. The fines should carry across the board. For safety sake at the very least! More inconsistencies in the NFL "finebook"

BigNastyDefense
09-17-2011, 11:47 AM
I thought so. Players have been fined for it in the past. The fines should carry across the board. For safety sake at the very least! More inconsistencies in the NFL "finebook"

Don't forget, Goodell only cares about the safety of offensive players.....and more so specific offensive players. None of those players play for a certain team in Pittsburgh, PA.

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:30 PM
cut blocks are legal and you guys are cry babies hahahahahahha

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:32 PM
^this^
I too would not wish it on anyone... But what you said Big!!!!f course you guys would single out Ngata hes better than anyone on your defense and dominated ur pathetic offensive line!

Ravens did nothing ILLEGAL it was all legal move on little girls

X-Terminator
09-17-2011, 08:33 PM
f course you guys would single out Ngata hes better than anyone on your defense and dominated ur pathetic offensive line!

Ravens did nothing ILLEGAL it was all legal move on little girls

Except if you read the thread, you'd find that most of us consider it sour grapes for them to whine about it after the fact. So you can take your comment and shove it.

zulater
09-17-2011, 08:36 PM
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f course you guys would single out Ngata hes better than anyone on your defense and dominated ur pathetic offensive line!

Ravens did nothing ILLEGAL it was all legal move on little girls


Ugg, :yuck2:
I smell troll!

O'Malley
09-17-2011, 08:38 PM
f course you guys would single out Ngata hes better than anyone on your defense and dominated ur pathetic offensive line!

Ravens did nothing ILLEGAL it was all legal move on little girls

It will be emplimented against you this week via the Titans.... We shall see how much you like it after Sunday....Hope nobody gets hurt, but the Titans have already stated they will be cutting your knees the whole game...

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:39 PM
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Ugg, :yuck2:
I smell troll!and you need a haircut !

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:40 PM
It will be emplimented against you this week via the Titans.... We shall see how much you like it after Sunday....Hope nobody gets hurt, but the Titans have already stated they will be cutting your knees the whole game...we didnt do it the whole game stop ur fkn crying you little portland oregon bandwagon fan

The Titans want a physical game? bring it and see who comes out in a worse position

steel striker
09-17-2011, 08:40 PM
f course you guys would single out Ngata hes better than anyone on your defense and dominated ur pathetic offensive line!

Ravens did nothing ILLEGAL it was all legal move on little girls


Did you enjoy your Super Bowl? How was the parade? That 2 point conversion was something that we would expect from the cheats not the rat birds. Well you better other teams don't cut block your team because, when and if they do your cry baby of a coach well be crying to worthless Roger.

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:41 PM
Except if you read the thread, you'd find that most of us consider it sour grapes for them to whine about it after the fact. So you can take your comment and shove it.yeah right, like I believe that shit, you guys are all over the other forums crying like school girls. I can guarantee you, if you won this wouldnt be an issue

O'Malley
09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
we didnt do it the whole game stop ur fkn crying you little portland oregon bandwagon fan

The Titans want a physical game? bring it and see who comes out in a worse position

You don't know me... Or how long I've been a Steelers fan... Dirt bag rat bird fan... You guys won one game, good for you, about time... This is not how you handle winning, how can I expect you to know since you've been getting your asses handed to you for so long. I've been on the "bandwagon" for thirty years now, but what do I care about what you think.... Stinking Rat turd troll.

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
Did you enjoy your Super Bowl? How was the parade? That 2 point conversion was something that we would expect from the cheats not the rat birds. Well you better other teams don't cut block your team because, when and if they do your cry baby of a coach well be crying to worthless Roger.did you enjoy your superbowl loss? lol Packers owned you and exposed Troy... the 2 point conversion ?what is wrong with that? it's apart of the game you still mad? your team looks to be in bad shape

oh and it's funny you ar ementioning crying as all you are doing is crying yourself

you are in DelaWHERE? no wonder ur mad lol

35 to 7
baby

Go Ravens

Steelers lose to Seahawks in most impressive fashion Sunday!

X-Terminator
09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
yeah right, like I believe that shit, you guys are all over the other forums crying like school girls. I can guarantee you, if you won this wouldnt be an issue

Are you that dense? I don't give a flying fuck about other forums, I care about THIS one. Read this entire thread, and then come back here and tell me where I was wrong. You won't, because you're just another ignorant and boring ass troll.

O'Malley
09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
yeah right, like I believe that shit, you guys are all over the other forums crying like school girls. I can guarantee you, if you won this wouldnt be an issue

35-7 that is going to be your claim to fame....

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:48 PM
what do you call whippin our ass? lol you have hardly beat us over the last 3 years and we basically beat ourselves if you even watched the games

I know bandwagon fans usually busy drinking and watching Bad Girls Club, We were winning 21 to 7 last year in the playoffs and lost by 7

we beat u last year at home

you beat us by what? 3 or 4 points? if they are ass whoopins then what is a 35 to 7 ?lol

we clearly shown we have a more talented team

zulater
09-17-2011, 08:49 PM
yeah right, like I believe that shit, you guys are all over the other forums crying like school girls. I can guarantee you, if you won this wouldnt be an issue

Actually I think it would be. Cut blocking, is a bush league move, no matter who does it or when. I really think there's no place in the game for it, and I'm glad the Steelers don't make a practice of it. Though of course on Novemeber 6th I hope they do it early and often.

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:50 PM
Are you that dense? I don't give a flying fuck about other forums, I care about THIS one. Read this entire thread, and then come back here and tell me where I was wrong. You won't, because you're just another ignorant and boring ass troll.if u didnt give a fuck, why did you respond? I don't give a fuck what you give a fuck about, you faggot, pussy, steel skirt wearing bitch

zulater
09-17-2011, 08:52 PM
what do you call whippin our ass? lol you have hardly beat us over the last 3 years and we basically beat ourselves if you even watched the games

I know bandwagon fans usually busy drinking and watching Bad Girls Club, We were winning 21 to 7 last year in the playoffs and lost by 7

we beat u last year at home

you beat us by what? 3 or 4 points? if they are ass whoopins then what is a 35 to 7 ?lol

we clearly shown we have a more talented team

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/16-The-Beat-Down

You should probably reserve this sort of responce for the forum we have set aside for exactly that sort of post. Otherwise you're probably going to find your ass tossed off the site entirely fairly soon.

35 to 7
09-17-2011, 08:53 PM
Actually I think it would be. Cut blocking, is a bush league move, no matter who does it or when. I really think there's no place in the game for it, and I'm glad the Steelers don't make a practice of it. Though of course on Novemeber 6th I hope they do it early and often.the crying continues.Cut blocking is legal so until he NFL makes it against the rules, shut the fuk up and cut your hair. Good Luck in Nov, I hope the aging Steel Skirt defense is up to par lol unless they are half crippled

X-Terminator
09-17-2011, 08:53 PM
what do you call whippin our ass? lol you have hardly beat us over the last 3 years and we basically beat ourselves if you even watched the games

I know bandwagon fans usually busy drinking and watching Bad Girls Club, We were winning 21 to 7 last year in the playoffs and lost by 7

we beat u last year at home

you beat us by what? 3 or 4 points? if they are ass whoopins then what is a 35 to 7 ?lol

we clearly shown we have a more talented team

It doesn't matter if you win by 4 or 34, it's still a W.

The Steelers beat the Ravens TWICE in the past 4 years when it's mattered the most. You can have all of the regular season "ass whoopins" you want. I'll take the wins in the playoffs. So far, your Ravens are 0-3.

But hey, you won in convincing fashion last week. Congratulations. You may now kindly go fuck yourself on a rusty spike.

zulater
09-17-2011, 08:53 PM
if u didnt give a fuck, why did you respond? I don't give a fuck what you give a fuck about, you faggot, pussy, steel skirt wearing bitch

Oh you're gone now rat troll. :lol:

steel striker
09-17-2011, 08:55 PM
did you enjoy your superbowl loss? lol Packers owned you and exposed Troy... the 2 point conversion ?what is wrong with that? it's apart of the game you still mad? your team looks to be in bad shape

oh and it's funny you ar ementioning crying as all you are doing is crying

you are in DelaWHERE? no wonder ur mad lol

35 to 7
baby

Go Ravens

Steelers lose to Seahawks in most impressive fashion Sunday!


I'm not mad and, gives a call when the rats beat the steelers in a playoff game. Not to mention your team can't even act right after a good win acting like it was the Super Bowl. Your nothing more than a stupid Troll and, again it shows no class much like your coach!

zulater
09-17-2011, 08:55 PM
the crying continues.Cut blocking is legal so until he NFL makes it against the rules, shut the fuk up and cut your hair. Good Luck in Nov, I hope the aging Steel Skirt defense is up to par lol unless they are half crippled

Grow up asshole. And go back to your lowlife Ratturd sites.

X-Terminator
09-17-2011, 08:57 PM
Well, so much for another Ravens troll. Thank GOD we have Crow-Magnon and Boh here to show that not every Ravens fan is a complete assclown.

zulater
09-17-2011, 08:59 PM
http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/16-The-Beat-Down

You should probably reserve this sort of responce for the forum we have set aside for exactly that sort of post. Otherwise you're probably going to find your ass tossed off the site entirely fairly soon.

Oh well I tried to warn the little shit.

stillers4me
09-17-2011, 09:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/4l3gehv.gif

X-Terminator
09-17-2011, 09:02 PM
Oh well I tried to warn the little shit.

It would take a troll to piss me off on my birthday. Ah well, not everything goes according to plan. :chuckle:

zulater
09-17-2011, 09:05 PM
It would take a troll to piss me off on my birthday. Ah well, not everything goes according to plan. :chuckle:

It's your birthday? Sorry I didn't know, happy birthday X T!:rockon: :party:

X-Terminator
09-17-2011, 09:14 PM
It's your birthday? Sorry I didn't know, happy birthday X T!:rockon: :party:

Thanks! :drink:

Aussie_steeler
09-17-2011, 09:48 PM
Looking at the current rule structure they blocked legally. ( willing to bet it is changed in the off season after a few players go down)

I would however say that this style of blocking is totally devoid of human ethics.

Anyone who has played any type of football knows that trying to break legs or shredding knees is an absolute no go zone. If you chose to go there and you know that you are going to risk retaliation without remorse.

The ravens have chosen the mantra for 2011 - Do anything to win it all for Killa Ray

O'Malley
09-17-2011, 10:06 PM
It would take a troll to piss me off on my birthday. Ah well, not everything goes according to plan. :chuckle:

Happy Birhtday X... Thanx for having everyones back.. Leave the regulating to you!!!!

zulater
09-18-2011, 05:39 AM
Chop blocks: NFL again looks other way

There has been some dispute whether the chop blocks thrown by the Baltimore Ravens Sunday were legal or not. No Ravens were penalized, and none were fined. ESPN analyst Merril Hoge, who has access to the tapes each team shoots at games, wrote on Twitter, "After watching the end zone copy of the coaching tape the ravens O line had several illegal chop blocks on steeler D that were never called."

Let's forget whether the chop blocks were legal or not, or whether they had anything to do with the Ravens' ability to rush for 170 yards against what was the third-best rush defense in the modern history of the NFL last season. The crux of the matter is the Ravens came out chop-blocking with impunity and the NFL will do nothing about it.

It is no wonder defensive players feel they have no protection from an NFL that wants nothing but offense. The chop block can take out a defensive lineman's knees in a heartbeat and either end or put a severe crimp into his career.

While the league moves to protect "defenseless" players on offense, such as receivers, it does little to protect those on defense who are defenseless as nose tackle Casey Hampton was Sunday.

If it is legal, the Steelers might as well get with the program and develop a strategy for using the chop block.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11261/1175306-66-2.stm#ixzz1YIcHwzT6

Count Steeler
09-18-2011, 11:52 AM
Coach Cowher said "this is part of the game, move on." CBS pregame show.

zulater
09-18-2011, 06:55 PM
Coach Cowher said "this is part of the game, move on." CBS pregame show.

That's his right, as is mine to disagree. The vast majority of teams don't employ "zone blocking" aka cut blocking techniques in their regular schemes.Most teams have more respect for the game and their opponents. So it's not essential to the game. You can remove it, and most teams wont care.

So if player safety is really what concerns the league, and not just improving offensive output, then this very dangerous technique needs to be removed from the game as soon as possible.

Count Steeler
09-18-2011, 06:59 PM
That's his right, as is mine to disagree. The vast majority of teams don't employ "zone blocking" aka cut blocking techniques in their regular schemes.Most teams have more respect for the game and their opponents. So it's not essential to the game. You can remove it, and most teams wont care.

So if player safety is really what concerns the league, and not just improving offensive output, then this very dangerous technique needs to be removed from the game as soon as possible.

I agree 100%. I am still shocked that this play is legal. It still amazes me that a player being only 1 spot away is allowed to take out the legs. It is a wonder that none of our guys were hurt.

Oh well, let's see how they block in the next game against us.

fansince'76
09-18-2011, 07:00 PM
So if player safety is really what concerns the league....

I think we all know its not. Until the media squawks about it, anyway.

BigNastyDefense
09-18-2011, 08:33 PM
First, the league's safety mantra is complete and utter bullshit. All they are doing is trying to save themselves from future lawsuits over concussions by making asinine rules that handicap defensive players because even if the receiver is at fault for the helmet-to-helmet collision, the defensive player gets flagged and later fined.

Second, the league office doesn't care about true fans that love to see defense. They don't give a shit about hardcore fans, because it's their belief that those fans won't walk away no matter how much the bastardize the game of football. They want offense because that's going to draw the casual fan who wants to see games end 53-49 not 17-14. Those fans are what gives them the balls to ask for BILLIONS in television contracts.

Third, Roger Goodell is a complete asshat who doesn't know what real football is. He cares only about protecting certain QB's (Brady, Manning mainly). He's not a fan of Ben Roethlisberger, so he doesn't care if Big Ben gets his knee shredded. There won't be a fine levied on a player that were to do that. He doesn't give a shit about the Colt McCoys, Andy Daltons, and the other bad to mediocre quarterbacks in the NFL. If you're not the face of the NFL, then he just doesn't care.

Fourth, Tom Brady is gay and a goat fucker, that is all.

suitanim
09-19-2011, 05:30 AM
Interesting. I never heard a peep from anyone during the Rats game about cut/chop blocks, legal or not.

However, during yesterdays game, when Legursky rolled up on the back of a Squaks defenders knees, there was a 5 minute what could only be called a lecture on "The unwritten rules of football" and how Leg's had violated those rules, how unacceptable that was, blah, blah, blah...

fansince'76
09-19-2011, 08:13 AM
Interesting. I never heard a peep from anyone during the Rats game about cut/chop blocks, legal or not.

However, during yesterdays game, when Legursky rolled up on the back of a Squaks defenders knees, there was a 5 minute what could only be called a lecture on "The unwritten rules of football" and how Leg's had violated those rules, how unacceptable that was, blah, blah, blah...

So I guess Legursky can expect a fine this week....

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-19-2011, 09:19 AM
I thought Siragusa was pretty much on point yesterday when talking about the alleged chop blocks with Mike Pererra on the Fox Broadcast.

Mike P explained that the block is not technically illegal, but Goose stated the truth that its unethical, its cowardly not to take a man on head up and nobody is speaking to the health and protection of the O linemen!!!

XxKnightxX
09-19-2011, 09:29 AM
Prior to this game the Ravens never employed cut blocking techniques, at least not against the Steelers. That they did so this game tells you how sleezy Harbaugh is.

ONCE, against the Jets, Shaun Ellis ran right past it and just bulldozed Flacco into the Ground causing a fumble. All the years playing O line myself I was told by coaches to cut block and I was always against it. Call me prideful, but Im sure all the Pro O linemen do the same thing unless theyre sleazy bastards with dirty tactics.

If they wanna say its Legal, Lets engage Ngata and go straight to his knees, again, and again, and again. See how much he likes it.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-19-2011, 09:34 AM
If they wanna say its Legal, Lets engage Ngata and go straight to his knees, again, and again, and again. See how much he likes it.

Exactly!!! D-Linemen hate this the worst of all things in football. Should send Legursky to do that every time he can in the next game they play.

suitanim
09-19-2011, 09:49 AM
Juts to clarify, what Leg's did was illegal, and what the filthbirds did wasn't. HOWEVER, both are violations of the "unwritten rules". Whether or not Leg's was intentional or not is unknown, but the same can definitely NOT be said of the Rats.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-19-2011, 11:37 AM
Juts to clarify, what Leg's did was illegal, and what the filthbirds did wasn't. HOWEVER, both are violations of the "unwritten rules". Whether or not Leg's was intentional or not is unknown, but the same can definitely NOT be said of the Rats.

Legursky was throwing himself at players legs, because that is what he can do to get the block done. He pulled left on a running play in the 2nd half and went straight for the ankles of the D-lineman Clemons, but face to face. I think its habit for him because there are many defenders he cant take on while on his feet.

suitanim
09-19-2011, 11:44 AM
The reason I gave him the benefit of the doubt is because it didn't look like taking that guy out was going to do much to alter the outcome of the play, so he either A) Did it as an accident or, B) Intended it exactly as it was. Either way, this wasn't scheme or a blocking technique at all, it was just an individual doing this on one particular play. The Rats was.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that a whole bunch of attention was paid to one particular block by one guy that may have just been a heat of the moment thing, while NO attention was paid at all to a similar unwritten rule that was clearly part of a larger planned team-wide coaching scheme.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-19-2011, 11:57 AM
The reason I gave him the benefit of the doubt is because it didn't look like taking that guy out was going to do much to alter the outcome of the play, so he either A) Did it as an accident or, B) Intended it exactly as it was. Either way, this wasn't scheme or a blocking technique at all, it was just an individual doing this on one particular play. The Rats was.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that a whole bunch of attention was paid to one particular block by one guy that may have just been a heat of the moment thing, while NO attention was paid at all to a similar unwritten rule that was clearly part of a larger planned team-wide coaching scheme.

I agree, the way Legursky threw himself at Al Woods legs had similar technique as Bluto throwing himself into the crowd in Animal House.

The backside cut block has been done for years by zone block teams like the Broncos. Guys know its coming and its somewhat dirty, but rarely bitched about it this loudly in the past. I hope the rule gets changed.

As for the Steeler fans hacking on Mike Pereria for not knowing what he does. They should look back to SBXL where he clearly showed holds by Locklear and Gray were justified by them being engaged "outside the frame of the defender". Or that the push off in the end zone was clearly an infraction.

O'Malley
09-19-2011, 12:12 PM
Interesting. I never heard a peep from anyone during the Rats game about cut/chop blocks, legal or not.

However, during yesterdays game, when Legursky rolled up on the back of a Squaks defenders knees, there was a 5 minute what could only be called a lecture on "The unwritten rules of football" and how Leg's had violated those rules, how unacceptable that was, blah, blah, blah...

That was one of the stupidist plays I've seen him make...

O'Malley
09-19-2011, 12:13 PM
I thought Siragusa was pretty much on point yesterday when talking about the alleged chop blocks with Mike Pererra on the Fox Broadcast.

Mike P explained that the block is not technically illegal, but Goose stated the truth that its unethical, its cowardly not to take a man on head up and nobody is speaking to the health and protection of the O linemen!!!

Loved it... Goose said it all... Loved how he said it was unethical and cowardly!

steeldevil
09-19-2011, 12:18 PM
Did the Rats use the zone blocking and chop blocks against the Titans?

Count Steeler
09-19-2011, 04:16 PM
I don't think Pereria was defending the practice of chop blocks, I think he was just interpreting the rule. I enjoy watching him when he is on.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-19-2011, 04:32 PM
Did the Rats use the zone blocking and chop blocks against the Titans?

Looks like they only had 17 rushing attempts. Probably some zone blocking in there.. Cant say I saw the game to see if there were any cut blocks.

zulater
09-19-2011, 06:35 PM
Loved it... Goose said it all... Loved how he said it was unethical and cowardly!

Going back to when the Broncos were winning back to back Super Bowls. They were despised and garnered little respect around the rest of the league because they were notorious for "zone" aka cut blocking. If a win is worth selling your integrity for congratulations Ravens, too bad they don't award Lombardi's on the opening week of the season.