2011 NFL Draft

[86WARD]

Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings...

[7willBheaven]

Brown has very good playing speed, and great closing speed. he can go vertical with a 37 1/2 inch leap. He is the one CB I have stuck with all year.

4th round--- I kinda Zack Hurd OG

Decent hands/ball skills?

[JayC]

Decent hands/ball skills?

just 2 picks on the draft report i read in 4 years. he might be a better version of william gay

[Chidi29]

Can't wait to actually watch a little bit of Brown up close.

[Texasteel]

Decent hands/ball skills?

Very good hand, but plays more for pass breakups than Ints. He likes to lay off the WR till the ball is in the air, then use his closing speed to get to the ball. That will not work as well in the pros, but he will adjust. He is light, but a decent tacker, and I think is more physical than Williams. I said before, I think he can be better that Williams.

[tube517]

Some info on Brown: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68760&draftyear=2011&genpos=CB

[Aussie_steeler]

4th round names--

Sam Acho Cliff Matthews Greg Romeus Ross Homan OLB
QUinton Carter, Tyler Sash S
Clint Boling, Andrew Jackson OG
Chimdi Chekwa, Rashad Carmichael, Brandon Burton, Davon House CB
DJ Williams TE
Ian Williams Jerrel Powe NT
Kendall Hunter, Jordan Toddman Taiwan Jones RB
Chris Hairston Jason Pinkston OT

I still see some very good names there to choose from.

Enjoy your sleep................. I am getting ready for a big party.

I will have a few beers tonight

One for Tex
One for LLT
One for Chidi
One for our long lost pal GITNOLUV
One for............

Hell, I'll have one for everyone here today.

See you with a sore head tomorrow

[7willBheaven]

Very good hand, but plays more for pass breakups than Ints. He likes to lay off the WR till the ball is in the air, then use his closing speed to get to the ball. That will not work as well in the pros, but he will adjust. He is light, but a decent tacker, and I think is more physical than Williams. I said before, I think he can be better that Williams.

Interesting. Plus he wasnt their #1 CB either...he was back there with Williams...and also that Chykie or whatever guy. Can he start this year you think? Or just on spot duty/etc?

[7willBheaven]

4th round names--

Sam Acho Cliff Matthews Greg Romeus Ross Homan OLB
QUinton Carter, Tyler Sash S
Clint Boling, Andrew Jackson OG
Chimdi Chekwa, Rashad Carmichael, Brandon Burton, Davon House CB
DJ Williams TE
Ian Williams Jerrel Powe NT
Kendall Hunter, Jordan Toddman Taiwan Jones RB
Chris Hairston Jason Pinkston OT

I still see some very good names there to choose from.

Enjoy your sleep................. I am getting ready for a big party.

I will have a few beers tonight

One for Tex
One for LLT
One for Chidi
One for our long lost pal GITNOLUV
One for............

Hell, I'll have one for everyone here today.

See you with a sore head tomorrow

Nice list...though I dont see Romeus as an OLB for the Steelers.

I think now that they got players at the top 3 needs...they can go a number of ways and people wont be mad. Another OL? RB/TE? LB? Even K?! Should be a fun day...though i will miss it all.

[Texasteel]

Interesting. Plus he wasnt their #1 CB either...he was back there with Williams...and also that Chykie or whatever guy. Can he start this year you think? Or just on spot duty/etc?

I think he will see significant playing time, but I do doubt that he will start this year, unless Ike walks on us.

[tube517]

I'd like to see them get an OG next. I'm happy with the picks.

[tube517]

Please. No Willie Gay comparisons. Even if "better version" is used............. :chuckle:


just 2 picks on the draft report i read in 4 years. he might be a better version of william gay

[Texasteel]

I'd like to see them get an OG next. I'm happy with the picks.

Like I said, I like Hurd, but remember Cannon is still there and I see him as possible switching to OG. His heath problem kept him from being drafted very early 2nd round. Want to roll the dice on him? Some one is going to.

[7willBheaven]

Like I said, I like Hurd, but remember Cannon is still there and I see him as possible switching to OG. His heath problem kept him from being drafted very early 2nd round. Want to roll the dice on him? Some one is going to.

I'd risk a 4th...though I'd be happier to risk a 5th, haha. The OL could be interesting...does Colon re-sign...where does he go...stay at RT? Move to RG? What about the unknown Chris Scott...hes a RG/RT also...could he be a potential starter? Is Gilbert 100% RT only or do they think he can play LT too? Theres even Foster who played decent at RG. Lots of questions for sure...which make me wonder if they'd use another pick on the OL or what.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Wow! I'm just amazed, and very happy, that Brown was still there in round 3, especially after that mini CB run. I'm very happy with our first 3 picks and it goes to show once again that our FO knows what they're doing. The rest of this draft is gravy.

[7willBheaven]

Wow! I'm just amazed, and very happy, that Brown was still there in round 3, especially after that mini CB run. I'm very happy with our first 3 picks and it goes to show once again that our FO knows what they're doing. The rest of this draft is gravy.

Right on...much happier with this years draft compared to last years first 3 rounds. Pouncey was great then the next 2 (Woirlds and Sanders) were "huh moments"...and some say they were over drafted. Sanders did show why he was a 3rd rounder as the year went on but still.

[fansince'76]

I think I may need to start paying attention to college ball a little more. I know about squat about pretty much all of these players. :doh: :chuckle:

[7willBheaven]

I think I may need to start paying attention to college ball a little more. I know about squat about pretty much all of these players. :doh: :chuckle:

To be honest I dont watch a lot of college football...just here and there. But I get into this stuff and researching and all that jazz...I'm by no means a "draftnik" (whatever the hell that is) or a "guru"...but i still enjoy it haha

[SteelerFanInStl]

This from Gil Brandt on Nfl.com


Swing and a miss:
Steelers drafting Marcus Gilbert. The Florida offensive tackle was all over the board –- one team even had him has a possible first-rounder. But most had him going as low as the fifth round. I had him in my 100-to-125 plateau, so No. 63 is a bit risky.

[Chidi29]

I will have a few beers tonight

One for Tex
One for LLT
One for Chidi
One for our long lost pal GITNOLUV
One for............

Hell, I'll have one for everyone here today.

See you with a sore head tomorrow

I'll do the same.

But I'll have to nix the beer and replace it with apple juice.

[7willBheaven]

This from Gil Brandt on Nfl.com

Good for Gil haha....just about every place i checked had him going in the 2nd-3rd round...but every has their opinions and Gil is welcomed to his.

[7willBheaven]

Sucks I wont be here for the final day of the draft, hope everyone enjoys it.

[The Duke]

Can't really complain about Curtis in the 3rd. But I think we can get yet another DB in Davon House if he falls to us in the 4th

[Steel Glory]

Based on how the draft has gone so far...

I would like to see these picks

4. Jaquizz Rogers, RB, Oregon State

5. Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State / Zach Hurd, OG, Connecticut

6. Mark Legree, FS, Appalachian State / Bruce Miller, OLB, Central Florida

7. Frank Kearse, NT, Alabama A&M

[steelreserve]

Well, I'm glad we got a CB, and a better one than I thought we'd get that low too. It's a bummer that we missed out on a guy who looked like a kick-ass nose tackle by one pick, though. Every year, we need to find a big fat guy to eventually take over for Hampton, and every year, we put it off one more season...

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

This from Gil Brandt on Nfl.com

I'm with Gil. I think #63 ia a bit high for Gilbert. He is more likely a bust than a boom pick. For a guy that is probably going to be a RT only , I would rather have gone with Joseph Barksdale. Neither was worth a 2nd round pick IMO>


Hope we can get Jerrell Powe in the 4th and replace Hoke.

[Chidi29]

My list of guys to look in the last day of the draft.

RB: Allen Bradford, Mario Fannin
WR: Greg Salas, DeNarius Moore, Kris Durham, Dane Sanzenbacher
TE: Julius Thomas, Kyle Adams, Charlie Gannt
OG: Julian Vandervelde, Zach Hurd, Jamal Lewis
NT: Ian Williams, Anthony Gray
DE: Mike Blance
OLB: Mario Addison
ILB: Greg Jones, Mike Mohamed
CB: Rashad Carmicheal
S: Mana Silva

[Chidi29]

List of players still on the board that we brought in for workouts. Again, thanks to Aussie for collecting the names a few days ago.

CB - Cortez Allen - Citadel
CB - Buster Skrine - Tennessee-Chattanooga

OT - Jarriel King - South Carolina
OT - Marcus Cannon - TCU

OG - Keith Williams - Nebraska

WR - Edmund Gates - Aberline Christian
WR - Denarius Moore - Tennessee

RB - Taiwan Jones - Eastern Washington
RB - Da'rel Scott - Maryland

TE - Julius Thomas - Portland State
TE - Weslye Saunders - South Carolina

NT - Frank Kearse - Alabama A&M
NT - Anthony Gray - Southern Miss

DE - Zack Clayton - Auburn

ILB - Mario Harvey - Marshall

S - Davon Morgan - Virginia Tech

[43Hitman]

I remember hearing quite a bit about Morgan around town.

[Texasteel]

I think someone is going to roll the dice with Marcus Cannon in this round.

[Texasteel]

Curtis Marsh was taken by Philadelphia in the 3rd.

[Chidi29]

Woops.

[Chidi29]

Boling is gone. Cincy took him.

[Texasteel]

Boling is gone. Cincy took him.

That doesn't surprise me, I think Schilling will be gone soon too.

[Texasteel]

Damit. I would have really liked to of had Sam.

[Texasteel]

We when through 3 picks and they are still talking about an overrated QB

[Chidi29]

seattle with a quality pick in Durham

[43Hitman]

Do the steelers consider a PK in this draft?

[Texasteel]

There go's a kid you like Chidi.

[Chidi29]

salas is gone

[43Hitman]

Do the steelers consider a PK in this draft?

lol I guess not.

[Psycho Ward 86]

DAMNIT i really wanted Greg Salas!

[Texasteel]

There go's a kid I liked.

[Chidi29]

Marc Schiechl is another guy to keep an ear out for in the sixth or seventh.

[taztroy43]

henrey just got picked!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chidi29]

Tex!

Chris should be giving you 10%, not his agent.

[Texasteel]

My players are starting to fall.

[The Duke]

Ah there goes Prosinski too

still a few good DBs left though

[Texasteel]

Tex!

Chris should be giving you 10%, not his agent.

I really thought he would go in the 5th.

[Texasteel]

Ah there goes Prosinski too

still a few good DBs left though


What is with House, the board I'm looking at has him still available.

[The Duke]

What is with House, the board I'm looking at has him still available.

tha'ts who I''m hoping for

damn hairston too!

[Texasteel]

And there go's the RB I liked.

[Texasteel]

OK guys we're on deck who do you want.

[LLT]

Gotta think that Powe is a possibility.

[The Duke]

Hurd please?

[taztroy43]

I thought the same thing with House....House or Burton should be our pick!!!! Maybe even TE Thomas portland state

[Chidi29]

Hurd is my pick

[Texasteel]

I'll stick with Hurd. but still wondering about House.

[LLT]

Hurd is a possibility....also RB De'rell Scott

[LLT]

No one wants NT Jerell Powe?

[Texasteel]

No one wants NT Jerell Powe?

Not if I have to look at you in a thong.

[86WARD]

Wouldn't mind DJ Williams here...

[86WARD]

Cortez Allen...another CB.

[The Duke]

No House but Cortez

not bad

[Chidi29]

Cortez Allen is our guy

[Texasteel]

Not a huge surprise, I've heard they liked him

[Vis]

Someone tell me something about our pick.

[LLT]

Not if I have to look at you in a thong.

LOL...Bad for you then...I get points for them taking a 4th round CB!!!!

[86WARD]

Someone tell me something about our pick.

Bye, Bye Keenan? lol...

Supposedly an Ike Taylor clone...

[Chidi29]

By the way, you guys hear Ellis is going to stand trial on felony assualt charges?

[stillers4me]

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jimwexell (http://twitter.com/#!/jimwexell) James C Wexell



Cortez Allen, another CB, The Citadel. Keenan Lewis, it was nice.

[stillers4me]

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Another CB.. see yall need to trust that no other NFL team knows what theyre doing on draft day better than the steelers!!!! super bowl WIN or bust this season!!!

[Texasteel]

By the way, you guys hear Ellis is going to stand trial on felony assualt charges?


First I've heard of it. Who pick him, I really can't remember.

[The Duke]

By the way, you guys hear Ellis is going to stand trial on felony assualt charges?

Yeah, just read it this morning. makes me kinda glad the jets took him

even if I wanted him so much

[stillers4me]

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Ken_Laird (http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Laird) Ken Laird



a few draft guys compare Cortez Allen to another small CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie from Tennessee St. another tm captain

[stillers4me]

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Ken_Laird (http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Laird) Ken Laird



#steelers (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23steelers) DB coach Carnell Lake describes Cortez Allen as "pretty quick, pretty fast, can play both bump and off coverage, lot of upside"

[stillers4me]

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Ken_Laird (http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Laird) Ken Laird



Lake says he feels the team has a real steal here, a guy with limited experience, like his vision & versatility for their zone schemes

[Chidi29]

First I've heard of it. Who pick him, I really can't remember.

Jets.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/30/jets-take-kenrick-ellis-despite-pending-criminal-trial/related

[stillers4me]

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Carnell Lake: "I think we got a real deal here. ... for someone with limited experience, he looks awfully natural at corner."

[Chidi29]

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jimwexell (http://twitter.com/#!/jimwexell) James C Wexell



Keenan Lewis, it was nice.

No. No it wasn't.

[LLT]

Someone tell me something about our pick.

He is 6'1 197 lbs...ran a 4.50 at the combine...might actually be a FS prospect since he played both CB and FS
in college

[Texasteel]

Anyone think Allen could play FS. He's a pretty gutsy kid.

[stillers4me]

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Ken_Laird (http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Laird) Ken Laird



Since moving into the starting lineup as a sophomore, Allen allowed just 69-of-197 passes targeted into his area to be completed (35%), 3 TD

[Texasteel]

Sorry LLT, missed your post. I was thinking the same thing.

[86WARD]

I thought Allen could possibly had been snagged as an UDFA...oh well...these are the guys that usually don't make the team in the Steelers drafts...lol.

[Texasteel]

I'm really liking the way this draft is going, I hope Hurd last to our pick in the 5th.

[stillers4me]

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‎2 new cornerbacks... FRESH MEAT lol

[LLT]

I'm really liking the way this draft is going, I hope Hurd last to our pick in the 5th.

I dont know tex...something tells me that they will go with an offensive skill guy next.

[86WARD]

Noel Devine or DJ Williams?

[stillers4me]

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Ken_Laird (http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Laird) Ken Laird



more on Allen: 29 3rd-dwn stops v the passing game as a JR led all of clge ftbl.rerouted his coverage assignment on 102 of 128 incompletions

[taztroy43]

Hey I think they might give Lewis a shot at CB but if he fails again they will try him at FS IMO....He's been uderplaybook for 2 years so he's getting his shot...maybe they drafted him to pressure Keenans Ass...but I think that Keenan will get every oppurtunity like he did last year....Worst case scenario Lewis will try to be developed into a FS....but he's in his last year so idk...

[43Hitman]

Stanzi to KC.

[The Duke]

Hey I think they might give Lewis a shot at CB but if he fails again they will try him at FS IMO....He's been uderplaybook for 2 years so he's getting his shot...maybe they drafted him to pressure Keenans Ass...but I think that Keenan will get every oppurtunity like he did last year....Worst case scenario Lewis will try to be developed into a FS....but he's in his last year so idk...

He will definitely get his chance. But if he shows nothing again, or shows something plus his attitude, he's a goner

Dunno about Stanzi to the chiefs. He's gonna learn from Cassell? lol

[Texasteel]

I dont know tex...something tells me that they will go with an offensive skill guy next.

Your probably right,,,,,,,,,,,, RB maybe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Scott maybe.

[Texasteel]

Hey I think they might give Lewis a shot at CB but if he fails again they will try him at FS IMO....He's been uderplaybook for 2 years so he's getting his shot...maybe they drafted him to pressure Keenans Ass...but I think that Keenan will get every oppurtunity like he did last year....Worst case scenario Lewis will try to be developed into a FS....but he's in his last year so idk...

Maybe he could room with Sweed.

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LaMarr Woodley (http://www.facebook.com/LaMarrWoodley)
Another CB.. see yall need to trust that no other NFL team knows what theyre doing on draft day better than the steelers!!!! super bowl WIN or bust this season!!!

Depends who you ask, LaMarr. Seen plenty of pissing and moaning about this draft and how clueless our FO is elsewhere.

[43Hitman]

Depends who you ask, LaMarr. Seen plenty of pissing and moaning about this draft and how clueless our FO is elsewhere.

Really? Where?

[Texasteel]

What would y'all think of WR Terrence Toliver here.

[Iron Steeler]

We could go Kicker soon...

[stillers4me]

Really? Where?

There are few other sites where gloom, doom and despair are the topic of the day.

[The Duke]

Burton to vikes

nice pick. We obviously didn't want him though, so I'll stick with our two cbs

[43Hitman]

There are few other sites where gloom, doom and despair are the topic of the day.

gotcha. I haven't been there since the SB loss tbh.

[stillers4me]

I see James is real worried about his job today. :chuckle:

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U know I like Cabelas but I just got back from a bass pro shop and now I can't decide which one I like more... Which do u like better?

[43Hitman]

We could go Kicker soon...
lol I asked this earlier, and didn't get a response. I certainly think getting a PK is a viable option since I don't really trust Sushi for the long haul.

[43Hitman]

I see James is real worried about his job today. :chuckle:

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U know I like Cabelas but I just got back from a bass pro shop and now I can't decide which one I like more... Which do u like better?

I can get lost for days at Bass Pro, and be peachy keen.

[stillers4me]

A tweet from our our new OT...I wonder if they'll let him in the facility.



MGilbert76 (http://twitter.com/#!/MGilbert76) Marcus Gilbert



Just got to steelers fan fest! Loving this city

[LLT]

What would y'all think of WR Terrence Toliver here.

Love his height...but Im a little concerned about his lack of quickness. Still...a very good redzone target!

[Iron Steeler]

lol I asked this earlier, and didn't get a response. I certainly think getting a PK is a viable option since I don't really trust Sushi for the long haul.

ESPNs best available PK:

KAI FORBATH
2007: 25 of 30 FGA, long of 54 yards; 30 of 30 PAT.
2008: 19 of 22 FGA, long of 53 yards; 21 of 22 PAT; 6 kickoffs 52.5-yard avg.
2009: 28 of 31 FGA, long of 53 yards; 24 of 25 PAT.
2010:13 of 18 FGA, long of 51 yards; 27 of 27 PAT.

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Loving my new home! Can't wait for the lockout to end, this is ridiculous. Let's play ball

[taztroy43]

Terrance Toliver would be a nice pick up in the 5th round....or Da'rell Scott RB maryland....maybe even a TE....Virgil Green...

[LLT]

ESPNs best available PK:

KAI FORBATH
2007: 25 of 30 FGA, long of 54 yards; 30 of 30 PAT.
2008: 19 of 22 FGA, long of 53 yards; 21 of 22 PAT; 6 kickoffs 52.5-yard avg.
2009: 28 of 31 FGA, long of 53 yards; 24 of 25 PAT.
2010:13 of 18 FGA, long of 51 yards; 27 of 27 PAT.

Kai Forbath would be a great pick...and the new kickoff changes help his skill set.

[tube517]

Alright, get Mr. We've Got it all figured out off the screen.

[Godfather]

Terrance Toliver would be a nice pick up in the 5th round....or Da'rell Scott RB maryland....maybe even a TE....Virgil Green...

Not really room for him on the roster. Plus, having watched him in college, I don't think he's as good as the receivers we already have.

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Another thing for u to remember (esp those who criticize draft selections) is that the scouts spend soooo much time (and $ traveling) analyzing each and every potential option.. while its easy 2 sit back and say "we shoulda taken this guy or that guy" we should all trust that the guys who make the picks know a LOT more than u and me about who is the best pick

[Count Steeler]

Might be time to pick an LB.

[Iron Steeler]

and the new kickoff changes help his skill set.
If we Sepulveda can get it together I like this kid numbers for Kickoffs ... maybe UDFA

JOSHUA JASPER

2007: 11 kickoffs, 59.0 avg., 1 touchback; 1 punt, 40 yards, inside the 20;
2008: 13 kickoffs, 60.9 avg., 4 touchbacks; 4 punts, 43.0 avg.; 2 of 2 FGA, long of 33 yards; 34 of 34 PAT.
2009: 17 of 20 FGA, long of 52 yards; 36 of 37 PAT; 13 kickoffs, 61.6 avg., 3 touchbacks; 15 punts, 37.3 avg., 10 punts inside the 20.
2010: 28 of 34 FGA, long of 53 yards; 36 of 37 PAT; 13 kickoffs, 63.7 avg., 5 touchbacks; 21 punts, 41.0 avg., 14 punts inside the 20.

[stillers4me]

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#Steelers (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Steelers) latest CB has similarities to Ike Taylor. http://tinyurl.com/49g7sez (http://tinyurl.com/49g7sez)

[Acumen]

Thoughts on Jerrel Powe you draftniks out there? I'm literally only asking because he's the default NT prospect at this point... Is he worth taking?

[taztroy43]

If we go linebacker we might go with Chris Carter DE/OLB Fresno State or M. Harvey ILB/OLB 5'11" 250, ran a 4.49 at this pro day...he can be a special teams player then develop into a james harrison type of OLB....hopefully lol....

[Chidi29]

Thoughts on Jerrel Powe you draftniks out there? I'm literally only asking because he's the default NT prospect at this point... Is he worth taking?

I'm worried that the guy will be too dumb to play in LeBeau's scheme. He had a hard time getting to Ole Miss because of academic problems.

[Chidi29]

Doug Hogue and Ross Homan, LLT's guy, are possibilites at LB.

[taztroy43]

any info on who's going to be next?

[Steel Glory]

I think Chris Carter, OLB from Fresno State, could be the pick when our pick comes up

[Iron Steeler]

Am I the only one sold on going PK!? come on give me some input people!

[taztroy43]

If we WR...I would want Stephen Burton...6'1" 220lbs, pro day 40: 4.38, that guy is underated and would look good in the black and gold....

[Chidi29]

I'm going to stick with my mock and go with Toliver.

[Chidi29]

Hogue is gone. Had him going to the Lions at 154 in my mock.

[stillers4me]

Jacquizz??? :lol:

[The Duke]

Sherman was my FS sleeper damn!

[st33lersguy]

Steelers must get a guard or a nose tackle with this next pick

[Chidi29]

Steelers must get a guard or a nose tackle with this next pick

Oh yeah, forgot Hurd is on the board. He'd be my guy over Toliver.

[Steel Glory]

Jacquizz??? :lol:

Jacquizz went 145 to the Falcons in the 5th.

[stillers4me]

Jacquizz went 145 to the Falcons in the 5th.
I know. It was the name that made me laugh.

[stillers4me]

When is our next pick?

[taztroy43]

I'm intrigued by Stephen Burton WR(if we go WR)...the guy is 6.1 3/8, 225lbs, verticle-35, 4.38-40time, 1.46 10yd split, 18 B.R., he looks like a RB at WR....If we go reciever we should go with a physical/big reciever/run blocking WR...hopefully he turns out like a Ward for us....

[Chidi29]

When is our next pick?

162

[The Duke]

Oh yeah, forgot Hurd is on the board. He'd be my guy over Toliver.

I really can't believe he's still available!

find me a someone that works harder than this guy. He'd be a great addition

and we did go defense the last 2 picks so NT might have to wait

[Texasteel]

Oh yeah, forgot Hurd is on the board. He'd be my guy over Toliver.

I'm sticking with Hurd myself. Love the big ugles. and they don't come much bigger or uglier.

[Steel Glory]

Why the hell did the Pats draft another TE?

[43Hitman]

Why the hell did the Pats draft another TE?

Brady likes tight ends. :chuckle:

[Chidi29]

Enderle!

[Steel Glory]

I think we take Lee Ziemba or Chris Carter

[steelreserve]

I know it's just baseless superstition, but when I see a guy with Cortez for a first name, all I can picture is a guy who gets a lot of playing time and gets burned a lot or called for a ton of bad 40-yard pass interference penalties.

[Texasteel]

there gos you QB Chidi.

[Chidi29]

there gos you QB Chidi.

Happy to see ESPN got to capture his reaction.

Kid is the real deal.

[steeldevil]

Brady likes tight ends. :chuckle:

:chuckle:

[Iron Steeler]

NICE an OLB

[Steel Glory]

Called it... Chris Carter

[steeldevil]

Chris Carter

[Chidi29]

Good call on Carter whoever said it.

[Craic]

Another DE! Carter

[st33lersguy]

Apparently Trai Essex and Ramon Foster are competent guards and Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke are not about to retire

[Texasteel]

He sure looks like a Steeler OLBer

[Chidi29]

I am concerned about the situation at RG. Unless the hope is for Gilbert to play there.

[The Duke]

Apparently Trai Essex and Ramon Foster are competent guards and Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke are not about to retire

well we did get Chris Scott last year and he's basically still a rookie. So it's practically the same as drafting a new guard this year

[Steel Glory]

Only reason why I guessed Chris Carter is because he a 3rd round ranked guy. Plus OLB was a need

[Chidi29]

Only reason why I guessed Chris Carter is because he a 3rd round ranked guy. Plus OLB was a need

Either way, good call man.

[Texasteel]

Apparently Trai Essex and Ramon Foster are competent guards and Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke are not about to retire
Not that this is what they have in mind, but Gilbert has played OG, and did a good job.

[Craic]

Apparently Trai Essex and Ramon Foster are competent guards and Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke are not about to retire

We still have two or three years with our NT's. They can platoon and keep it going. If both of them are out, we can move Smith there for a couple games. I'm not so worried about the DL anymore. CB is our biggest need and we need all the chances we can get of finding people who can play that position.

As far as O line is concerned. We actually have a glut of players for the line. Unless we're picking a OL in the first or maybe second round, I doubt anyone we have now would be beat out by anyone in the draft.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Don't know much about this guy. I think that I'd have rather seen an OL like Ziemba or Hurd. Not really thrilled about the analysis by nfl.com:


Carter is a college defensive end who could find a home as a backup 4-3 outside linebacker at the next level. Lacks the size and strength to keep his hand down full-time but also limited athletically. Has some redeeming qualities - shows awareness at DE that looks transferable to OLB and special teams, is accountable for his responsibilities within your defensive system, can fire off the ball and rush the passer, and does a good job tackling in tight areas. However, he isn't overly stout taking on blockers, struggles to shed, and does not project to hold up dropping into coverage. Probable rookie free agent.

Time will tell.

[SteelerEmpire]

Carter also gave a pretty impressive workout at the combine...

[taztroy43]

I watched Carter live a couple of games and the guy is a beast...a little undersized but he will be our other OLB/special teams ace....I think mayock had him over OLB mason of washington...

[SteelerFanInStl]

As far as O line is concerned. We actually have a glut of players for the line. Unless we're picking a OL in the first or maybe second round, I doubt anyone we have now would be beat out by anyone in the draft.

probably true

[Craic]

Not that this is what they have in mind, but Gilbert has played OG, and did a good job.
And at tackle, if we bring back Colon, we have him, Starks, and Flozell. There was a lot of talk about Colon moving inside on these boards, that may also be an option. The improvement I saw from the line last year was probably very much do to coaching. I'll give it another year or so before I start yelling for another OL.

[Count Steeler]

I watched Carter live a couple of games and the guy is a beast...a little undersized but he will be our other OLB/special teams ace....I think mayock had him over OLB mason of washington...

Bye, bye Fox.

[stillers4me]

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jimwexell (http://twitter.com/#!/jimwexell) James C Wexell



Great news. My boy Chris Carter. Steelers had No. 4 OLB spot open. Perfect fit. Surprised lasted. NT next.

[Craic]

probably true

I noticed someone agreed with me and I almost fell out of my seat.

I've been married way too long.








:chuckle:

[The Duke]

Good thing for Carter is, unless some UDFA is significantly better than him he has a roster spot in his grasp with only woodley harrison and worilds at OLB

Hopefully he makes the most of the opportunity. I like what I see from him

[SteelerFanInStl]

I noticed someone agreed with me and I almost fell out of my seat.

I've been married way too long.

:chuckle:

:lol:

[The Duke]

We get Curtis Ravens get Chykie

[Texasteel]

Hurd in the 6th

[Chidi29]

I forgot Ugo Chinesa was there. I would have taken him over Carter.

[Acumen]

I'm worried that the guy will be too dumb to play in LeBeau's scheme. He had a hard time getting to Ole Miss because of academic problems.

Thanks bud, still gonna keep my fingers crossed for him to keep slipping. I want some young blood at the fatboy position :)

[Chidi29]

Thanks bud, still gonna keep my fingers crossed for him to keep slipping. I want some young blood at the fatboy position :)

I'd rather get Ian Williams or Anthony Gray

[Steel Glory]

I forgot Ugo Chinesa was there. I would have taken him over Carter.

Ugo Chinasa can play but I see him as a 4-3 end. He is 6-5 and 260 lbs.

[Chidi29]

Local kid, Brandon Fusco, goes to the Vikings

[steeldevil]

Take that disgusting UNC graphic off the screen...

[oneforthetoe]

We still have two or three years with our NT's. They can platoon and keep it going. If both of them are out, we can move Smith there for a couple games. I'm not so worried about the DL anymore. CB is our biggest need and we need all the chances we can get of finding people who can play that position.

As far as O line is concerned. We actually have a glut of players for the line. Unless we're picking a OL in the first or maybe second round, I doubt anyone we have now would be beat out by anyone in the draft.

Hold on Preacher because I am going to agree with you as well. We have little room for a NT at this point. We only keep six. so if we take another it would indeed have to be a PS player - which as I have said I don't agree with. We are not going to have a d'line with two rookies and a third year player on the roster, imo.

[Steeltreal]

Mario Harvey still there

[oneforthetoe]

Great, Charlie Casserly is now on NFL Network. He will probably drop our draft grade down for not taking Red Grange.

[Chidi29]

Ugo Chinasa can play but I see him as a 4-3 end. He is 6-5 and 260 lbs.

He is a little big but I think he could play OLB. Not that much bigger than guys like Ware.

[43Hitman]

Skins take Evan Royster RB- Penn State

[steelreserve]

Apparently Trai Essex and Ramon Foster are competent guards and Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke are not about to retire

What the plan is for OL is to be adequate, not great. That's a position we have to make some sacrifices at in order to keep a great defense and retain our offensive skill players; it's just how the salary cap works. This is not something that we just started doing, by the way. We started making that decision back with things like letting Faneca go instead of breaking the bank for a $40M long-term contract. Or when Hartings retired, instead of going after an elite center right away, we tried to get by with guys like Mahan and Hartwig. Instead we used the money to do things like extend Kiesel and Taylor and Ben and Troy. You cannot be perfect at every position, and it's pretty obvious that OL is the one we've accepted we'll just be OK at for the greater good. Nothing to be upset about; it's worked so far.

As for NT, that's been a gnawing worry on my mind for a couple years now, and I really hope we don't put it off any longer.

[tube517]

Ravens took Tyrod Taylor. Poor Tyrod.

[tube517]

:rofl2:


Great, Charlie Casserly is now on NFL Network. He will probably drop our draft grade down for not taking Red Grange.

[tube517]

Opie is on the NFLN now

[oneforthetoe]

They are interviewing Andy Dalton right now on the NFL Network. Clean cut looking head. Firetruck red hair. He should have a picture of himself now because after playing the Steelers and Ravens twice every year he ain't going too pretty in a few years.

[Chidi29]

Like the pick of Bradford by the Bucs.

[Texasteel]

I just noticed that NE took Lee Smith. That is the 3rd time in this draft they have taken one of my player. As if I needed another reason to hate them.

[oneforthetoe]

Question for those in the know. Are there any decent safeties left? By decent I mean a guy who could help with special teams and work his way to being a competent back-up.

[Steel Glory]

Virgil Green & Schuylar Oordt are still available at TE.

Ian Williams and Jerrell Powe at NT

Lee Ziemba and Zach Hurd at OG

and Da'Rel Scott, Noel Devine and Derrick Locke are all possible choices...

[Steel Glory]

Question for those in the know. Are there any decent safeties left? By decent I mean a guy who could help with special teams and work his way to being a competent back-up.
Jeron Johnson I believe is still available out of Boise State

[Chidi29]

Virgil Green & Schuylar Oordt are still available at TE.

Ian Williams and Jerrell Powe at NT

Lee Ziemba and Zach Hurd at OG

and Da'Rel Scott, Noel Devine and Derrick Locke are all possible choices...

If we're looking TE, I'd go with a blocker. Gantt or Kyle Adams.

[Steel Glory]

If we're looking TE, I'd go with a blocker. Gantt or Kyle Adams.

Yeah, I kind of agree but I don't know if Matt Spaeth sticks after the new deal is done. Spaeth was brought on to be more of a pass catching end. David Johnson is our blocking tight end.

[oneforthetoe]

Jeron Johnson I believe is still available out of Boise State

Thank you. Is he a FS or SS?

[Steel Glory]

Think this pick is going to be either Derrick Locke or Jerrell Powe here.

[Chidi29]

Martin Parker still on the board. Isn't a great fit for us but surprised he fell.

[Steel Glory]

Thank you. Is he a FS or SS?
He played SS in college

[Chidi29]

Going to guess Toliver. Or scott.

[Steel Glory]

Pick is already in... Really quick

[oneforthetoe]

I'm a bit surprised,but it is a need.

[Chidi29]

Bleh. If we're taking a guard, take Hurd. Like Preacher said and as I've said in the past, the mid to late round lineman is just a body that isn't going to help when you're looking for a starting RG.

[Steel Glory]

Keith Williams... Didn't list him as a guard prospect forgot he was there

[st33lersguy]

Good, now they need to get a nose tackle

[The Duke]

Is there something wrong with Hurd? Can't believe he's fallen this far

[Texasteel]

Obviously they saw something in Hurd they did not like. Williams is not a bad player.

[Chidi29]

Is there something wrong with Hurd? Can't believe he's fallen this far

I'm puzzled too.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Bleh. If we're taking a guard, take Hurd. Like Preacher said and as I've said in the past, the mid to late round lineman is just a body that isn't going to help when you're looking for a starting RG.

Agreed. Wasted pick. This is the only thing that I like about him:
Plays angry and doesn't stop until the whistle.

[oneforthetoe]

Great I switch back to ESPN while NFL Network is in commercial and instead of mentioning the pick of either of the two teams that played in the Super Bowl we talk about how Scott Peoli of the Chiefs was with the Pats they selected Tom Brady at 199. So what draft pick 199 is fior ever known as the Tom Brady pick.:rant:

[taztroy43]

Its annoying its like they don't care about the guys the Steelers pick...

[The Duke]

Great I switch back to ESPN while NFL Network is in commercial and instead of mentioning the pick of either of the two teams that played in the Super Bowl we talk about how Scott Peoli of the Chiefs was with the Pats they selected Tom Brady at 199. So what draft pick 199 is fior ever known as the Tom Brady pick.:rant:

well that's your mistake right there :)

[SteelerFanInStl]

It's been that way for years. They rarely say more than a few words about the Steelers picks.

[Steel Glory]

I wonder what is wrong with Ian Williams as well

[X-Terminator]

For those of you complaining about not getting this guy or that guy in the 5th or 6th round...you are aware that more often than not, these guys end up being cut, right? So what, exactly, is the problem here?

[oneforthetoe]

well that's your mistake right there :)

I know but the NFL Network is getting just as bad. They blew right through the last two Steelers' picks.

[steeldevil]

smart pick for the Jets. I was hoping we could get him. He is the kind of guy that can help your team just because he is so damn smart.

[tube517]

That's because Rich Eisen wants to be Tom Brady's Tight End.


I know but the NFL Network is getting just as bad. They blew right through the last two Steelers' picks.

[Chidi29]

For those of you complaining about not getting this guy or that guy in the 5th or 6th round...you are aware that more often than not, these guys end up being cut, right? So what, exactly, is the problem here?

I want the guy who is the least likely to get cut.

[Steel Glory]

I want the guy who is the least likely to get cut.

Same here.

[Chidi29]

Cedric Thornton hasn't been drafted yet either.

[X-Terminator]

I want the guy who is the least likely to get cut.

OK, fair enough.

[Steel Glory]

Deandre McDaniel, SS, Clemson

Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky

Da'Rel Scott, RB, Maryland

Lawrence Guy, DT, Arizona State

Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley St

Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina

Ian Williams, NT, Notre Dame

Weslye Saunders, TE, South Carolina

Charlie Gannt, TE, Michigan State

Some of the best available players left

[Chidi29]

scott just went off the board.

I think Frank Kearse will be the pick. Guy we've shown a lot of interest in.

[Steel Glory]

Scratch Da'Rel Scott, NYG just took him

[Chidi29]

Anthony Gaitor gone.

[The Duke]

scott just went off the board.

I think Frank Kearse will be the pick. Guy we've shown a lot of interest in.

I'd like him. Ian williams too. I'd be fine with either

Jets got scotty mcknight. Good sleeper at wide receiver

[Chidi29]

N, no, no. Kearse was just taken by Miami.

[Steel Glory]

Wow Miami stole Kearse from us

[Chidi29]

And right before us too.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Why not just take Kai Forbath at this point?

[Steel Glory]

Who is Baron Batch? Know nothing about the kid

[steeldevil]

Why on earth would we not take Ian Williams? What is wrong with him?

[Steel Glory]

Why on earth would we not take Ian Williams? What is wrong with him?

What's wrong with Derrick Locke? I mean if we are going to take a running back....

[Psycho Ward 86]

Well there's our last pick of the 2011 draft:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjPnTSzrNfE&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZpNXNhJNII


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cxOP_P8Ls8&feature=related

[The Duke]

The lack of interest in Hurd amazed me (not from the steelers but from every team!). Ian williams is also surprising

Batch is likely some competition for Dwyer I guess. Doubt he can play Moore's role

[SteelerFanInStl]

Batch is likely some competition for Dwyer I guess. Doubt he can play Moore's role

Why not? When they talked about him on the NFL Network, they said that he was good at catching the ball out of the backfield. It sounds like he'd be a good 3rd down back.

[Chidi29]

Did do 24 reps on the bench press and had a 39 inch vertical at his Pro Day.

[Chidi29]

One other tidbit, and this could be thought of as good or bad, was that he had a severe injury his freshman year. Torn Achilles and doctors said he'd never play again. Redshirted the next year and came back in 2008. So a severe injury but he did recover from it.

[tube517]

Baron Batch has his own column here (http://www.mywesttexas.com/sports/article_05859a06-5985-584e-ac84-75ddcc0535c6.html#axzz1IHvVeVji)

[SteelerFanInStl]

I don't know if this young man will make the team but after doing a quick search on him, he's definitely got his head on straight. Check this out:

http://www.iamsecond.com/seconds/baron-batch/

[Chidi29]

Apparently is high-character and very religious.

http://baronbatch.blogspot.com

[fansince'76]

But does he have suddenness and glide? :chuckle:

[Chidi29]

Unfortunately, he seems to like Coldplay. Decision-making comes into question...

:chuckle:

[The Duke]

I hate seeing greg lloyd and eagles in the same sentence :yuck2:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

But does he have suddenness and glide? :chuckle:
We have already filled that quota. I thought we would get a big back and a FB.;)

[HometownGal]

Brady likes tight ends. :chuckle:

And Belidick* likes Brady's* tight end. :heh:

All in all, I am very pleased with this draft! :applaudit: Kudos! :drink:

[tube517]

I thought there would be more LB's in this draft. It's already a bust! :chuckle:




We have already filled that quota. I thought we would get a big back and a FB.;)

[Chidi29]

Mr. Irrelevant. Come on Scott Lutrus!

[st33lersguy]

I guess that drafting a Duce Staley sweatpants back is more important than drafting the heir to Casey Hampton

[fansince'76]

Welp, back to fretting about the lockout, I guess. :pout: