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kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 05:55 PM
Don't get greedy, just get the 1st
Craic
01-15-2011, 05:55 PM
That's ok Ben. Be sure before you pull the trigger here. I'd rather get 3 than 0.
salamander
01-15-2011, 05:55 PM
At least get the first down here...
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
HINES!!!!!!!!!!!
salamander
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
HINES WARDDD!!!!
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
TD Ward!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
THIS GAME IS OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS GO STEELERS
Craic
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
HINES WARD!!!
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
TOUCHDOWN Hines!!!!!
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
TD Hines!! Way to go!!!!!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
td HINESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
The Duke
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
BUt he's too old???
haha touchdown baby!
steelreserve
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
Whole new game!
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
TOUCHDOWN WARD!!!!!!! OMFG I'm loving this! :yay3: :rockon: :bananadoggywow:
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS WARD COMES UP HUGE TOUCHDOWNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
Randy06
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
HERE WE GO WOOOOOO
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
Never doubted it for a second
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
it's 0-0 now with us playing lights out on D. I'm pretty confident.
86WARD
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
WARD!
salamander
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
WOW WHAT A GAME!
The WH
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
Joe Flacco Wines Hard.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
Joe Flacco Wines Hard.
:rofl2:
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
It's a new game now baby. This one's ours!! :tt03:
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
Way to recover from that near-disaster of a first half. :applaudit:
Randy06
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
IM PUMPED BABY WOOOOO (Losing my voice)
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 05:57 PM
i think i amn gettting horse and tt shoulder
SteelerSal
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
WOW WHAT A GAME!
Can say that again!!
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
Do not let up D!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
And Madison still impresses on ST love it!
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
Nice hit Foote
Let's Go D!!
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
nice coverage Foote! Let's go D! Keep bringing it!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
Let's finish this.
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 05:58 PM
DEFENSE DEFENSE!!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
Harrison was held wow!
Craic
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
Come on D. Now is the time...
NICE JOB.
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
James getting held again...
The Duke
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
scared flacco?
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
Harrison getting all kinds of pressure
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
Deisel sniffed that one out
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
Holding on Harrison. Cmon.
The WH
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBHTyfcA_Mm_gUaM19OMUdgL5olkgFD vnVmmhqcmB-NtSKH3SQ
Randy06
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFENSEEEEEE
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
love that stat they just showed.
Craic
01-15-2011, 05:59 PM
Harrison was held wow!
There's holding, then there's being hung b the neck.
Flacco is rattled now. Steelers kept the Ravens in the game by making so many mistakes. Now it has evened out a bit.
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Another turn over. Turn up the heat.
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Holy!
we got this!
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Steelers ball baby!!! Woo Hoo!!!
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Steelers recover another fumble!!!!!!
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
YEA BABY!
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
YESSSSS!!!!!!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
.............................???
Speachless.
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
FUCKKKK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Another turnover! :tt02:
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
STEELERS FOOTBALL!!!!!
GodfatherofSoul
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Flaaaaaaaaa-cough-cough-cough!!!
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
OMFG!!!!! ANOTHER RATS TURNOVER!!!!!! Sock it to 'em O!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
OMG OMG OMG FUMBLE STEELERS BALL!!!!!
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
God, I nearly coughed on my pizza.
Tomlin is standing on the sideline like Darth Vader. Ravens are done as long as we play mistake free football.
steelreserve
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Flacco can't handle the pressure!
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Hey Flacco, did your own snap count surprise you?
The WH
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBHTyfcA_Mm_gUaM19OMUdgL5olkgFD vnVmmhqcmB-NtSKH3SQhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBHTyfcA_Mm_gUaM19OMUdgL5olkgFD vnVmmhqcmB-NtSKH3SQ
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:00 PM
Putting them away boys
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
Nice run Mendy
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
I don't even know what to think right now.
touchdownward
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
The implosion factor has definitely switched this half.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
Man 7 here and the roof would come off, oh wait!
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
damn! Convert on this 3rd
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
Come on with the conservative plays...
Great...Scott is injured...
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
oh god who can play tackle for us now
Randy06
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Not another O-line men down.
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
The football gods really do not like our o-line...
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Get up Scott!
steelreserve
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Hey, we're running out of tackles. Doesn't matter, they sucked anyway.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Scott down
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBHTyfcA_Mm_gUaM19OMUdgL5olkgFD vnVmmhqcmB-NtSKH3SQhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBHTyfcA_Mm_gUaM19OMUdgL5olkgFD vnVmmhqcmB-NtSKH3SQ
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok. I have just loss all respect for you!! I have (wrestling way) hated that guy for years! :chuckle:
Chidi29
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Essex to LT, Foster to RT, Legursky to RG.
Only thing we can do.
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Shit. Scott down. :doh: I think Legursky will do just fine. :pray:
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
why's our line so fragile?
playing wise and health wise!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Come on Scott, you might not be good, but we need you!
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:03 PM
We really just can't afford another injury on the OL.
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:03 PM
I hope he is okay.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:03 PM
ouch
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:03 PM
Ouch. He got his bell rung.
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:03 PM
That fat load Ngata clipped him. :pig:
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
Scott doesn't know where he's at right now.
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
why's our line so fragile?
playing wise and health wise!
Snakebit. That's what we are on the OL.
BLACK AND GOLD!!! 15 MINUTES LEFT
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
On to the 4th quarter
Randy06
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
FOURTH QUARTER!
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
WHO ALL BELIEVES?
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
Let's bring this home. 4th quarter and let's seal the deal. Ravens are on their heels.
steeldevil
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
hopefully our D keeps it up cuz Ben will have no time the rest of the game.
Hey maybe we can borrow some linemen from the Penguins!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
I have said it all week.
Its the Ravens Steelers-
You only need to watch the last 3 minutes to see who wins.
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
only 15 more!
we're an injury away from spaeth playing lineman....
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
WHO ALL BELIEVES?
Never stopped believing HTG. This is our Year.
steel9guy
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
Were injured, but we have momentum. Gotta keep this up. HERES TO A GREAT 4th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The WH
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
Ok. I have just loss all respect for you!! I have (wrestling way) hated that guy for years! :chuckle:
wait.....
someone on here respected me?
WHOOO!!!!
43Hitman
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
I haven't been following along, but I'm sure the end of the world crew has been out in full force, lol. You gotta believe!
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
:tt03::tt02::tt03::tt02::tt03::tt02:
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:05 PM
Oh I smell 7 points here, I smell a Steelers win and the Steeler nation partying all night long baby!!!
The WH
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
All these O-line injuries are the football gods forcing Kevin Colberts hand in the upcoming draft. That's all.
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
wait.....
someone on here respected me?
WHOOO!!!!
ROTFL. I actually enjoy your posts.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
We gotta keep the momentum going here and get another TD on this drive. Let's go offense!!!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
Harrison may play centre and Pouncey move to guard. Hehehe.
Seriously, though hope our guys are ok.
steel9guy
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!
:tt03::tt02::tt03::tt02::tt03::tt02:
I second that but I can't type cause nerves.
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
WHO ALL BELIEVES?
Right now, we all do.
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
lets get a TD guys
Mamaduck43
01-15-2011, 06:06 PM
I still believe!!!!! We CAN do this...... And we shall do this....
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
It is all Steelers now.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Brown was close
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Nice run Brown.
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
man antonio is fast!
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Just short of the first down...
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
One more step, just one more
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Get the first!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
4th and 1 and going for it ahhh nervous!
The WH
01-15-2011, 06:07 PM
Flozell Adam's sickness is self-inflicted Vertigo.
or he has a fever, and needs more Cowbell.
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Steelers lining up for it on 4th & short...
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Dumbass Harbaugh
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:08 PM
What is he challenging??? WHAT?
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Way to pay attention Harbaugh
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:08 PM
What is that, he can't interrupt the play and not pay for it.
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
First down Ben! :applaudit: :applaudit: WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
FIRST DOWN YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
1st down baby!
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
he got it....
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
They got it.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
First Down!!!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
1st down.
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
He got it! What balls!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
That is just ALL HEART
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
First down Ben!!!!! Way to push guys!
steelreserve
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
yes! way to show some balls
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
WHAT A GREAT EFFORT BY BEN!!
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
4th & 1 and Roethlisberger gets it on the 4th effort!!
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
for some reason, I saw that coming
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Legursky with the big push there.
Chidi29
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Ben whiplashed for a first down.
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Let's get this in.
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
if you can't push forward, try backward! 1st down.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
2nd and 10 Ok Ben go for the first not the HR!
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Threw it a little too hard there Ben.
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Balls move by TOmlin. I love it...Balls move by TOmlin. I love it...
Mamaduck43
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Hines is smiling - - I like that!!!!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Ok Ben,
Let's not get greedy. BE CAREFUL.
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Come on O!!!!!
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
another close one
Finish this drive O
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
come on O get a TD
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
3rd and a few baby come on Ben get this first we need 7!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
Dang it wallace. You had the outside.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
damn he almost broke that
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
Wallace didn't follow his block.
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
It's OK - we've got the Rats with tight asses right now.
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
Damn.... almost had it.
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:10 PM
Damn Mike...patience.
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Wallace screwed that up
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
SOB
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Man I hate Suggs.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Damn gotta get 2 men on Suggs, should have had 4 WR's for an RB blocking Suggs damn!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Should you expect anything else tonight?
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Fuckkk. Damn it.... Suggs again.
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Oh well. Cmon Sushi.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
damn but at least we get 3
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Dammit!!! They only rushed 3 and still got the sack. :(
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
don't miss sushi....
steelreserve
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
oh well ... FG will be ok
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Okay we are 3 ahead.
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Sushi makes it. :applaudit:
Chidi29
01-15-2011, 06:11 PM
Nich job swoosh
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Kick is Good!!!!!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
24-21 here we go Steelers
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
WOW.
Ok D. Hold them.
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
for the lead! Sushi nailed that one.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
YES Sushi makes it, 24 to 21 Steelers lead, HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO!!!
Can't stop a 3 man rush, but we now lead.
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
There ya go Sushi! :applaudit: 24-21 Steelers! :applaudit:
Other than the turnovers, the O has MORE than done its job today. D - we need you BIG TIME right now! :pray: :pray: :pray:
alright got the lead. need the crowd to get pumped again
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
points ill take it !! come on ST no big returns
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Oh well, I'll take the 3 and the lead!
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Well people, we have the lead.
Chidi29
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Can't stop a 3 man rush, but we now lead.
Essex got bullrushed as bad as they come. Bleh.
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Should've had a TD but at least we got the FG and the lead. Good job guys. Now let's shut them down again!! :tt03:
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Keep it going D!!
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
I'll take it...
43Hitman
01-15-2011, 06:12 PM
Keep putting on the heat D! WE GOT THIS MOFO!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:13 PM
i beeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeiiiiiiiivv vvvvvvvvveeee
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:13 PM
I sense a Troy sighting
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:13 PM
We have to hang on to this lead with the tenacity of a bull dog.
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:13 PM
Flacco is ripe for the picking. Stuff his ass right here.
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:13 PM
Defense has to hold here...continue playing lights out...none of that conservative bull shit for LeBeau...
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 06:13 PM
Another TO would be nice. Troy's been quiet....
steel9guy
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
LETS GO DEFENSE
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Can't hold back now D!
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
COME ON D!!!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
bring it D
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Hell yeah!
Randy06
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
DEEEEEEEFENSEEE
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Cmon D. Take it to them.
Texasteel
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Tighten the vise D
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Nice just ST's.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Great kick and great ST coverage!
Let's Go D!
SteelerFanInStl
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Great kick and coverage!
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Oh baby Harrison and Wood are hungry and just think Troy has not done much yet...
chenzzo
01-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Play scared Flacco, they're coming....
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Anyone think it's greedy to want another turnover? :heh:
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Man this crowd is such a factor, so loud and proud love it!
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Alright D... stop them!!!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Don't slack here. Cmon Harrison and Woodley
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
that's ok. Let the Ravens eat up time.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Anyone think it's greedy to want another turnover? :heh:
And from Troy hell no!
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
C'mon D - can't let them back in this game.
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Harrison was so close and we have a 3rd and short
86WARD
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
I feel a long Raven drive coming...
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
LET'S GO D!!!
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Wow are the Steelers starting to hit HARD now.
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:16 PM
Damn...
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:16 PM
Come on D - unleash Hell!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:16 PM
Let's go D. Ramp it up.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:16 PM
I feel a long Raven drive coming...
Dude Shh, come on!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:16 PM
lets stop'em guys
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
nice stop hokey
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
SIlly BIrdies.
YOU CANT RUN ON US
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Ya Baltimore keep running the clock off, I smell a play action against us here, hold them!
Polamalu Princess
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Come on D!!!
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Watch the screen. Pick 6 Polamalu
Defense has backed off since we got the lead.,
Randy06
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Stop em fellas!
kmsteelerwr15
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Oher got one hell of a jump
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
It's alright D, just keep bringing the heat, we got this, it's our house and our night!
Devilsdancefloor
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
tighten up d come on
Count Steeler
01-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Crowd to quiet.
HometownGal
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
Don't let 'em back in D - NO FREAKIN' WAY!!!!!!
The Duke
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
PIck coming....
fansince'76
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
Defense has backed off since we got the lead.,
Yep....
salamander
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
Grrr... come on. We get the lead so we start giving up yardage....
Craic
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
That's fine. I want the ball with 2-3 minutes left, I don't care if we are 3 up or 4 down.
steelpride12
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
Did Keisel get that tackle or his beard!?
come on D. need to get this stop
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