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MasterOfPuppets
06-06-2010, 04:02 PM
of course iran throws a can of gas on the fire.



TEHRAN - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards are ready to provide a military escort to cargo ships trying to break Israel's blockade of Gaza, a representative of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Sunday.

"Iran's Revolutionary Guards naval forces are fully prepared to escort the peace and freedom convoys to Gaza with all their powers and capabilities," Ali Shirazi, Khamenei's representative inside the Revolutionary Guards, was quoted as saying by the semi-official Mehr news agency.

Any intervention by the Iranian military would be considered highly provocative by Israel which accuses Iran of supplying weapons to Hamas, the Islamist movement which rules Gaza.
The Guards, with their own navy, air force and command structure separate from the regular armed forces, are seen as fiercely loyal to the values of the Islamic Republic.

"If the Supreme Leader issues an order for this then the Revolutionary Guard naval forces will do their best to secure the ships," Shirazi said. "It is Iran's duty to defend the innocent people of Gaza."
Last Monday Israeli troops killed nine activists on board one ship in a convoy trying to deliver aid to Gaza, sparking international outrage, especially in Muslim countries.

Another ship was boarded on Saturday and pro-Palestinian activists have promised more as they challenge the blockade imposed four years ago with the stated aim of stopping arms getting to Hamas.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel will continue to stop ships reaching the shore and creating "an Iranian port in Gaza," a reference to Iran's support for Hamas.

http://www.steeluniverse.net/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=4

ALLD
06-06-2010, 04:11 PM
That's a very bad idea.

cakmakli
06-06-2010, 05:03 PM
They ain't got the balls.

SteelersinCA
06-06-2010, 05:04 PM
This could get very interesting.

Mach1
06-06-2010, 05:07 PM
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GoSlash27
06-06-2010, 05:33 PM
The Ayatollah needs to brush up on his history before he (*&^s around and gets dealt with. You couldn't pay me to pick a fight with Israel.

SteelersinCA
06-06-2010, 07:01 PM
If he has nukes why not?

stlrtruck
06-06-2010, 08:18 PM
If he has nukes why not?

No weapon formed against me shall prosper

If God is WITH ME, then who can be against me

SteelerEmpire
06-06-2010, 08:22 PM
This may just be the "excuse" that Israel needs to 'get er (Iran) done'...

43Hitman
06-06-2010, 08:49 PM
No weapon formed against me shall prosper

If God is WITH ME, then who can be against me

:amen:

Vincent
06-06-2010, 10:23 PM
You really have to wonder what would possess iran to posture such with Israeli boomers in the Gulf. How do they think they're going to get that escort to Turkey? Across Russia?

SteelersinCA
06-06-2010, 11:04 PM
No weapon formed against me shall prosper

If God is WITH ME, then who can be against me

Um, OK, but I'm pretty sure God doesn't pick sides. So what then?

The Patriot
06-07-2010, 12:03 AM
Um, OK, but I'm pretty sure God doesn't pick sides. So what then?

You would think that more people would have gathered that by now. :uhoh:

Killer
06-07-2010, 08:37 AM
Amazing how a weak US President emboldens all our enemies.

X-Terminator
06-07-2010, 09:30 AM
This is not going to end well for anyone...

Killer
06-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Don't worry - Obama says he's got it covered

http://www.obamablog08.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/obama-new-yorker-cover.jpg

cakmakli
06-07-2010, 10:51 AM
Maybe they need to take a look at this before they jump.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3ay1eO6Pc

suitanim
06-07-2010, 03:51 PM
Hillary said they'd pull a stunt in the next few days...

stlrtruck
06-08-2010, 08:30 AM
Um, OK, but I'm pretty sure God doesn't pick sides. So what then?

I'd have to agree to disagree. The Bible is full of God taking care of His people. He's also used enemies to help get the attention of His people. But in my belief, God can use 1 person or 1,000's and He'll get the result HE wants.

Of course this also comes down to whether or not HIS people have followed His word or ignored it...and so on.

ricardisimo
06-08-2010, 11:13 AM
And then I get accused of hijacking threads when I bring up the psychopathy of religious folks in politics threads. Jesus H. Christ.

Killer
06-08-2010, 11:47 AM
speaking of hijacks

That whole Muhammad cult is pretty strange when you think about it.




New Fatwa Calls on Men to Drink Women's Breast-Milk

Exactly three years ago, on May 22, 2007, an Egyptian scholar was disciplined by Al Azhar University, one of Islam’s most prestigious institutions, after he issued a fatwa calling upon women to breastfeed their male colleagues. Dr. Izzat Attiyah said that his fatwa offered a way around mixing of the sexes in the work place since breast-feeding established a maternal relation even if the beneficiary was not the woman’s biological son or daughter.

Now, a high-ranking Saudi, Sheikh Abdul Mohsin al-Abaican, a consultant at Saudi Arabia’s royal court, has issued a fatwa asserting that
women could give their milk to men to establish a degree of maternal relations and get around a strict religious ban on mixing between unrelated men and women. [Because] a man who often entered a house and came in contact with the womenfolk there should be made symbolically related to the women by drinking milk from one of the women. Under the fatwa, the act would preclude any sexual relations between the man and the donor woman and her relatives.

Sheikh al-Abaican thus “modernizes” Dr. Izzat’s position — that the man must breastfeed directly from the teat — by suggesting: “The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman. He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam’s rules about mixing.”

A woman who once asked Muhammad what to do about the fact that a young boy who had been living with her and her husband had grown into manhood: that a non-relative adult male was freely residing with them, seeing his wife without her veils, was upsetting to the husband.

So the prophet told her to “breastfeed” the man.

Shocked, she responded saying that he was a grown man; Muhammad said — according to some traditions, while laughing — “I know.” The woman breastfed the man, and reportedly her husband was no longer upset, as the act of breastfeeding turned him into a kinsman. Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha — the “mother of the believers” — frequently relied on this practice to meet with non-related males (one of the greatest debates of her time revolved around how many “breastfeeds” were enough —one, five, or ten — to make a man a “family-member.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/new-fatwa-calls-on-men-to-drink-women%E2%80%99s-breast-milk/


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MasterOfPuppets
06-08-2010, 10:41 PM
No weapon formed against me shall prosper

If God is WITH ME, then who can be against me

:uhoh:


80-Year-Old Beaten, Cross Used As Murder Weapon
80-year-old beaten cross likely used as a murder weapon, say police.

Churchgoing Lilian Wilson, who was well-known in her community as a kind and giving person, was found by the pastor of her church Central United Methodist in Hamlin, Ark., Sunday afternoon, reports ktla.com.

The pastor found her body when she didn't arrive for services at another church. It appeared she suffered blunt force trauma to the head, which many speculated was done by someone wielding a crucifix as a weapon.
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212305997.shtml

The Patriot
06-09-2010, 09:42 AM
:uhoh:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212305997.shtml

Well, it is the cross. It was always a murder weapon.

SteelersinCA
06-09-2010, 10:11 AM
I'd have to agree to disagree. The Bible is full of God taking care of His people. He's also used enemies to help get the attention of His people. But in my belief, God can use 1 person or 1,000's and He'll get the result HE wants.

Of course this also comes down to whether or not HIS people have followed His word or ignored it...and so on.

And of course you assume your version of the "Bible" is correct. There are how many different religions and various sects? That's a hell of a gamble with not so good odds.

7SteelGal43
06-09-2010, 10:46 AM
And of course you assume your version of the "Bible" is correct. There are how many different religions and various sects? That's a hell of a gamble with not so good odds.

I'm thoroughly convinced that IF the God of the Bible is not THE one true God, there IS no god. Not so bad odds after all.

Funny though how a thread titled Iran's navy offers to escort Gaza ships ended up with talk about "is God real and if so which god is real". Gotta luv this place and this bunch of peeps. (no, I'm not being sarcastic at all)

stlrtruck
06-09-2010, 10:50 AM
:uhoh:

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212305997.shtml

Can't answer this one for nothing!

stlrtruck
06-09-2010, 10:51 AM
And of course you assume your version of the "Bible" is correct. There are how many different religions and various sects? That's a hell of a gamble with not so good odds.

That's a gamble I'm willing to take than the gamble that I could be wrong!

ricardisimo
06-09-2010, 11:18 AM
That's a gamble I'm willing to take than the gamble that I could be wrong!

Wrong answer... We are the United States. We are never wrong. [insert sarcasm here]

SteelersinCA
06-09-2010, 12:11 PM
That's a gamble I'm willing to take than the gamble that I could be wrong!

Well, I expect you to be resolute in your faith, otherwise it really wouldn't be faith. The other side is just as convinced as you though. That and the U.S. has no God, but we digress....

7SteelGal43
06-09-2010, 09:04 PM
........and the U.S. has no God, but we digress....


this is news to me :noidea:

ricardisimo
06-10-2010, 08:20 PM
this is news to me :noidea:

... and to an embarrassing number of US citizens.

From Article VI of our Constitution:

...

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the
several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of
the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or
Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be
required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United
States.

And the First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances.

Although, to your point, at the very end it does say "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." I'm sure that's all the proof anyone needs that we are indeed a Christian nation.

NJarhead
06-10-2010, 08:28 PM
Wrong answer... We are the United States. We are never wrong. [insert sarcasm here]
Why are you here? In the U.S. that is. You seldom, if ever, have anything nice to say about it.

ricardisimo
06-10-2010, 08:52 PM
Why are you here? In the U.S. that is. You seldom, if ever, have anything nice to say about it.

And you do have good things to say about it? I hear nothing but complaints from you about our president, our border policies, our economics, our tax structure, our everything.

In fact, you only seem to have good things to say about major U.S. corporations (which are really transnationals) and our armed forces, the bulk of whom are to be found outside of our borders. I'd recommend that you relocate yourself outside of our borders, to a country populated by our troops and dominated by multinational corporations, like, say... Iraq.

NJarhead
06-10-2010, 09:11 PM
And you do have good things to say about it? I hear nothing but complaints from you about our president, our border policies, our economics, our tax structure, our everything.

In fact, you only seem to have good things to say about major U.S. corporations (which are really transnationals) and our armed forces, the bulk of whom are to be found outside of our borders. I'd recommend that you relocate yourself outside of our borders, to a country populated by our troops and dominated by multinational corporations, like, say... Iraq.

Current President. Remember that.

I love this country. I don't love the way it's being run. But I don't share all of your negative thoughts on every aspect.

When did I say anything about corporations? And even if I did, who fucking cares?

OUR armed forces are doing their job. It's ALWAYS been that way. I can't believe I need to explain that to you.

As I said before, when the day comes I'll be putting YOUR ass on the boat, plane, train, or mule the hell out of here. Not the other way around.

ricardisimo
06-10-2010, 10:01 PM
Current President. Remember that.

I love this country. I don't love the way it's being run. But I don't share all of your negative thoughts on every aspect.

When did I say anything about corporations? And even if I did, who fucking cares?

OUR armed forces are doing their job. It's ALWAYS been that way. I can't believe I need to explain that to you.

As I said before, when the day comes I'll be putting YOUR ass on the boat, plane, train, or mule the hell out of here. Not the other way around.

I have not the least doubt that it will be you putting me on some boat out of the country, or putting me up against a wall, and not the other way around. Take note that I will go down on record as never being willing to do that to anyone, leastwise someone teenage loser in a chatroom whom I've never met, who has nothing better to do than follow me from thread to thread.

I do think that your statement speaks VOLUMES about the right wing's priorities and commitments. I thank you for your honesty, if nothing else.

7SteelGal43
06-10-2010, 11:45 PM
Although, to your point, at the very end it does say "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." I'm sure that's all the proof anyone needs that we are indeed a Christian nation.

:sarcasm:
Yep. And sure 'nuff, in all the writings of Ben Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Quincy Adams, Charles Carroll, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, John Jay........that's the only mention you'll hear of "the Lord" or anything remotely close to the God of the Bible.


" Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." Charles Carroll (signer of the Declaration of Independence)

Vincent
06-11-2010, 12:10 AM
Although, to your point, at the very end it does say "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth." I'm sure that's all the proof anyone needs that we are indeed a Christian nation.

"Separation of Church and state" doesn't mandate the eradication of religion from the gubmint and public. It means that the state can't impose a particular religion on the citizens.

Of course they honored the Lord in their assembly, their words and records. They were Godly men. They still open sessions of congress with prayer today.

The core of the culture were the folks that settled at Plymouth and Jamestown. They came here to escape religious persecution and to establish a life of free worship. They were Christians who dedicated the new land to the glory of Christ. Is that to say we are a "Christian nation" today? That's arguable, but the early settlers and founders would have certainly hoped that we would be.

We are a nation born out of religious tolerance. But our tolerance has now deevolved from religious freedom to the tyranny of the "politically correct" where everything is tolerated except those that won't.

We are at the latter stages of the Tytler cycle where we have passed...

* From bondage to spiritual faith;
* From spiritual faith to great courage;
* From courage to liberty;
* From liberty to abundance;
* From abundance to complacency;
* From complacency to apathy;
* From apathy to dependence;
* From dependence back into bondage.

November 2010 will determine whether we acquiesce into bondage, or experience something of a resurgence of liberty. Except for illegals, of course. :chuckle:

ricardisimo
06-11-2010, 01:08 AM
November 2010 will determine whether we acquiesce into bondage, or experience something of a resurgence of liberty. Except for illegals, of course. :chuckle:

Oh, really? Is that when the Republican Party will lead us back out of bondage? Free at last! Free at last!

ricardisimo
06-11-2010, 01:12 AM
:sarcasm:
Yep. And sure 'nuff, in all the writings of Ben Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Quincy Adams, Charles Carroll, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, John Jay........that's the only mention you'll hear of "the Lord" or anything remotely close to the God of the Bible.

They can mention it all they want. Thankfully for all of us, none of it matters... except the Constitution, that is. For the record, the vast majority of the Framers were Deists, and not what would be considered "good Christians" in today's fundamentalist United States. These men were creatures of the Enlightenment, much to your chagrin.

MasterOfPuppets
06-11-2010, 01:46 AM
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ricardisimo
06-11-2010, 01:49 AM
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NJarhead
06-11-2010, 08:29 AM
I have not the least doubt that it will be you putting me on some boat out of the country, or putting me up against a wall, and not the other way around. Take note that I will go down on record as never being willing to do that to anyone, leastwise someone teenage loser in a chatroom whom I've never met, who has nothing better to do than follow me from thread to thread.

I do think that your statement speaks VOLUMES about the right wing's priorities and commitments. I thank you for your honesty, if nothing else.

Teenager? I wish..., and you're welcome.

BTW - I wouldn't go around calling folks losers if I were you. Just the whole "people in glass houses thing" really.

NJarhead
06-11-2010, 08:31 AM
Oh, really? Is that when the Republican Party will lead us back out of bondage? Free at last! Free at last!

You could be in Mexico in less than 24 hours you know; all set to start a new and better life for yourself if you so desired. I see no reason for you to suffer another day here in this hell.

:coffee:

stlrtruck
06-11-2010, 09:50 AM
Except for illegals, of course. :chuckle:

Yes, they'll be promised and most likely given a lot more than they've ever earned from those in charge - should they stay in charge.


Oh, really? Is that when the Republican Party will lead us back out of bondage? Free at last! Free at last!

NO, that's when AMERICANS, you know those legally here in the country registered to vote, some also known as VOTERS, will fix the damage that was done this past November.