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stillers4me
06-05-2010, 08:06 PM
LAKE DELTON — A Green Bay (http://topics.greenbaypressgazette.com/Green+Bay/) Packers player remains under investigation for an alleged sexual assault early Saturday at a Lake Delton condo.

The player — who police are not naming, citing an ongoing investigation (WTF????) — told police he had consensual sexual contact with two women he met Friday night at a local bar. But the women say it was not consensual, according to Lake Delton Police Sgt. Gerald Grimsled, who would not provide details of the contact.

Police responded to Canyon Road in Lake Delton around 4:20 a.m. Saturday to a report that two women were sexually assaulted, Grimsled said. The assault reportedly occurred between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m. at a rental condominium at 1050 Canyon Road at the Wilderness Resort Golf Cabins.

Seven players staying at the condo were questioned, and all cooperated, according to police. They were all released, but police are still investigating whether one player was involved in both assaults. The six others are not suspected of criminal activity, Grimsled said. They are Matt Flynn, Khalil Jones, Josh Sitton, Korey Hall, Brad Jones (http://topics.greenbaypressgazette.com/Brad+Jones/) and Clay Matthews.

The women initially indicated more than one player was involved, according to police. After further interviews, the six men were allowed to leave. The seventh was further interviewed before being released, but his involvement remains under investigation.

A number of players were in town for the 13th annual McGovern Charity Golf Tournament Hosted by Clay Matthews & Friends.

Packers spokesman Jeff Blumb issued the following statement Saturday evening: "We are aware of the reported incident and still are gathering facts."

Police do not expect further updates Saturday and will send a report to the district attorney’s office sometime next week, Grimsled said.

Sauk County District Attorney Patricia Barrett had no comment when contacted Saturday night.
A copy of the police report can be found at........ http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100605/PKR01/100605041/1058/Packers-player-in-Lake-Delton-sex-assault-investigation-tells-police-contact-was-consensual (http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100605/PKR01/100605041/1058/Packers-player-in-Lake-Delton-sex-assault-investigation-tells-police-contact-was-consensual)


I want a name NOW!!!!!! Ben's name was released immediately. Why is this player being protected???????????

kmsteelerwr15
06-05-2010, 08:08 PM
And this will probably be the only place we hear about this.

Killer
06-05-2010, 08:19 PM
6 game suspension!


Call it Goodell.

stillers4me
06-05-2010, 08:21 PM
6 game suspension!


Call it Goodell.

This calls for at 12 games........Ben was accused by one DTF and one headcase. This guy is being accused by two DTF's......... on the same night. Now that's some threesome.

Killer
06-05-2010, 08:30 PM
a little more

Green Bay Packers player under investigation in alleged Lake Delton sexual assault

LAKE DELTON — A Green Bay Packers player remains under investigation for an alleged sexual assault early Saturday at a Lake Delton condo.

The player — who police are not naming, citing an ongoing investigation — told police he had consensual sexual contact with two women he met Friday night at a local bar. But the women say it was not consensual, according to Lake Delton Police Sgt. Gerald Grimsled, who would not provide details of the contact.

Police responded to Canyon Road in Lake Delton around 4:20 a.m. Saturday to a report that two women were sexually assaulted, Grimsled said. The assault reportedly occurred between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m. at a rental condominium at 1050 Canyon Road at the Wilderness Resort Golf Cabins.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100605/PKR01/100605041/1058/Packers-player-in-Lake-Delton-sex-assault-investigation-tells-police-contact-was-consensual

Killer
06-05-2010, 08:54 PM
told police he had consensual sexual contact with two women

A 3-way sexual assault?

Interesting.

salamander
06-05-2010, 09:22 PM
I agree... Ben's name was released as soon as it could be. Why is this guy being covered up? :der:

BPS3akaWirels3
06-05-2010, 09:32 PM
Police investigate whether Packer was involved in sex assault

By Sharif Durhams (sdurhams@journalsentinel.com) and Lee Bergquist (lbergquist@journalsentinel.com) of the Journal Sentinel
Updated: June 5, 2010 8:55 p.m.
Police are investigating a member of the Green Bay Packers in connection with an alleged sexual assault Saturday morning at a condo in Lake Delton.
Police said seven Packers were at a condo where a party was taking place and where the two women said the assault occurred.
Six Packers were interviewed and released, but police are focusing on the seventh player, who told investigators that the contact with the two women was consensual, said Sgt. Gerald Grimsled of the Lake Delton Police Department.
Grimsled said police don't believe the other six players were involved in the alleged assault.
The Lake Delton Police Department released the names of six Packers who they say didn't commit any crime - Clay Matthews, Matt Flynn, Khalil Jones, Josh Sitton, Korey Hall and Brad Jones.
"They were not involved in any way," Grimsled said.
Police declined to release the name of the seventh player on Saturday because the case was still under investigation.
"(The) seventh did have contact with the two females," Grimsled said. "We were pretty sure of that. Everybody was cooperative.
"It comes down to 'was it consensual sex?' One side says yes, the other says no."
The two women, aged 31 and 33, are from the Milwaukee area and met the players several hours earlier at a bar, police said.
Initially, the women said more than one person took part in the alleged assaults. But during interviews with the women and players, Grimsled said police concluded that only one person was involved.
Police were called at 4:17 a.m to the condos at the Wilderness Resort Golf Cabins.
Police said that when they arrived, the six players who are not suspects had had been drinking alcohol.
Police determined in their investigation that the seventh player and the women had been in a room together. But Police Chief Tom Dorner it was not clear whether all three had been drinking.
Police said there was no indication of a loud party they arrived. Grimsled said the police received no complaints from others staying at the hotel.
But Peter Bartell of New Berlin, who arrived at Wilderness about 3 a.m. with a group from the Ho-Chunk Casino, said he heard a boisterous party at the same cabin where police were conducting their investigation.
"To me it sounded like a bunch of drunks having a bachelor's party," Bartell said.
Others said the noise wasn't enough to wake them.
Dorner, the police chief, said he doesn't expect to conduct more interviews. He said he would take the case to the district attorney on Monday or Tuesday to consider charges.
Some players were in the Wisconsin Dells for the 13th annual McGovern Charity Golf Tournament Hosted by Clay Matthews & Friends.
Matthews, Flynn, Sitton and Jones are among the players scheduled to participate Sunday in a charity softball game hosted by receiver Donald Driver in Grand Chute.
Attempts to reach the players interviewed by police were unsuccessful as telephone and text messages were not returned. A handful of other players and agents contacted said they had no information about the alleged incident.
The incident comes as Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was disciplined by the NFL with a 4- to 6-game suspension after a sexual assault complaint was filed against him on March 5 by a 20-year-old college student in Milledgeville, Ga.
Georgia authorities decided not to file criminal charges, but Roethlisberger was sanctioned under the NFL's personal conduct policy.
Also, Packers defensive lineman Johnny Jolly is facing drug charges in Houston for allegedly trafficking illegal narcotics from 2006 to May 2008.
Contributing to this report were Journal Sentinel reporters Greg A. Bedard in Green Bay and Jason Stein in Lake Delton, and The Associated Press.

Yeah but the sure as hell bring up Ben...

Devilsdancefloor
06-05-2010, 09:40 PM
Well they can not do that he does not play for the steelers

steelpride12
06-05-2010, 10:20 PM
Ya Goodell knew it wasn't a Steeler so he said to hold the names until the investigation was finished.

X-Terminator
06-05-2010, 10:33 PM
Should have brought the BS emoticon over, because if there were ever a time to use it, this would be the time. It is complete bullshit that the alleged perp is being protected, while Ben's name was dragged through the mud from the beginning. I'm also waiting to see if this player is cleared of all charges, that Der Kommissar throws the book at him. I got ten bucks that says he doesn't. And if that happens, he should be fired immediately.

steeldevil
06-05-2010, 10:36 PM
must mean that its not a big name player... or the name would have been released

Craic
06-05-2010, 10:41 PM
Um,

It would seem to me that Ben's name being released vs. this name not, has everything to do with how the local police handle investigations, and nothing to do with liking or disliking a team. And in fact, THIS is how ALL the investigations SHOULD be handled, IMO.

On the other hand, isn't calling for a ban this early a little extreme? After all, Good-Deal waited until the investigation was finished after the SECOND TIME Ben was accused.

Guess that is a fact that some of us like to forget. THE SECOND TIME.

And as far as it making headlines, there is a difference of "Newsworthiness" between a no-name player (if that is whoever this person is) and a 2 time SB winning QB being accused teh first time JUST AFTER WINNING THE SB and a second time, ONE YEAR LATER.

X-Terminator
06-05-2010, 10:53 PM
Um,

It would seem to me that Ben's name being released vs. this name not, has everything to do with how the local police handle investigations, and nothing to do with liking or disliking a team. And in fact, THIS is how ALL the investigations SHOULD be handled, IMO.

On the other hand, isn't calling for a ban this early a little extreme? After all, Good-Deal waited until the investigation was finished after the SECOND TIME Ben was accused.

Guess that is a fact that some of us like to forget. THE SECOND TIME.

And as far as it making headlines, there is a difference of "Newsworthiness" between a no-name player (if that is whoever this person is) and a 2 time SB winning QB being accused teh first time JUST AFTER WINNING THE SB and a second time, ONE YEAR LATER.

Still bullshit Preach, sorry.

It doesn't concern you one iota that Der Kommissar completely backed himself into a corner so that now any time a player is accused - "accused" being the key word here - of assault, he pretty much HAS to suspend him? This player should not get a free pass just because it was allegedly his first offense. Sexual assault is sexual assault, and if the idiot-in-chief has any balls, this guy will be suspended regardless of the outcome of the case. But you and I both know he won't be.

But all that aside, how many more players have to be accused of sexual assault before they start being smarter about when and where they are around women, or at the very least start getting them to sign consent forms? No, they shouldn't be hermits and never go anywhere or party or whatever, but dammit...use your brains! Nothing good ever comes from mixing alcohol with women.

Shea
06-05-2010, 10:54 PM
You guys truly believe Goodell has it out for the Steelers, and therefore is looking for any excuse to pop off on a vendetta woody??

The Rooney's have constantly been an asset and pillars of the NFL community - for decades - and are deeply respected by not only our fanbase but others, and their organizations.

So, why would Goodell target our team?

X-Terminator
06-05-2010, 10:59 PM
You guys truly believe Goodell has it out for the Steelers, and therefore is looking for any excuse to pop off on a vendetta woody??

The Rooney's have constantly been an asset and pillars of the NFL community - for decades - and are deeply respected by not only our fanbase but others, and their organizations.

So, why would Goodell target our team?

I don't believe he has it in for the Steelers. I believe he's a power-hungry idiot who is going to be the death of the NFL as we know it.

steelerdude15
06-06-2010, 12:06 AM
I'm not sure if I can say this, but edit if you have to mods... bullshit, I'm sorry, but this makes me say bullshit. What makes this "player" so special that he has his name protected. I don't care if he is not a big time player or not, his name should be released, and of course, we won't hear anything or nearly anything about it and this pisses me off so much, so unfair.

MasterOfPuppets
06-06-2010, 01:58 AM
Should have brought the BS emoticon over, because if there were ever a time to use it, this would be the time.

i gotcha covered bro..
http://smiliesftw.com/x/bullshit.gif

fansince'76
06-06-2010, 02:07 AM
Should have brought the BS emoticon over, because if there were ever a time to use it, this would be the time.

:bs:

I just uploaded it. :thumbsup:

Wallace108
06-06-2010, 02:20 AM
Um,

It would seem to me that Ben's name being released vs. this name not, has everything to do with how the local police handle investigations, and nothing to do with liking or disliking a team. And in fact, THIS is how ALL the investigations SHOULD be handled, IMO.
I agree Preacher. The police don't answer to the league. It's an ongoing investigation, and what information they release is up to the investigators' discretion. If this had happened in Milledgeville, Georgia, then I'd call it BS.

As far as possible suspension, we'll just have to wait to see how it plays out.

Killer
06-06-2010, 05:13 AM
look at you hypocrits squirm


Throw the book at him Goodell - Remember the Shield!


Police investigate Packers player in alleged sexual assault

Sources say Underwood is linked to probe in Lake Delton case

Police are investigating a member of the Green Bay Packers in connection with an alleged sexual assault of two women Saturday morning at a condo in Lake Delton.

Three sources familiar with the case told the Journal Sentinel second-year cornerback Brandon Underwood is that player.



Police said seven Packers were at a condo where a party was taking place and where the two women said the assaults occurred.

Six Packers were interviewed and released, but police are focusing on the seventh player, who told investigators that the contact with the two women was consensual, said Sgt. Gerald Grimsled of the Lake Delton Police Department.

Grimsled said police don't believe the other six players were involved.

Lake Delton Police said the six cleared were quarterback Matt Flynn, safety Khalil Jones, guard Josh Sitton, fullback Korey Hall, and linebackers Brad Jones and Clay Matthews.

Police declined to release the name of the seventh player on Saturday.

"(The) seventh did have contact with the two females," Grimsled said. "We were pretty sure of that. Everybody was cooperative.

"It comes down to 'was it consensual sex?' One side says yes, the other says no."

The players were in town for a charity golf tournament hosted by Matthews. The two women, aged 31 and 33, are from the Milwaukee area and met the players at a bar, police said.

Sources said the incident likely happened before the entire group returned to the cabin.

Police were called at 4:17 a.m. to the condos at the Wilderness Resort Golf Cabins.

Police said that when they arrived, the six players who are not suspects had been drinking alcohol.

Police said there was no indication of a loud party when they arrived. Grimsled said the police received no complaints from others staying at the resort.

But Peter Bartell of New Berlin, who arrived at Wilderness about 3 a.m. with a group from the Ho-Chunk Casino, said he heard a boisterous party at the same cabin where the Packers stayed.

"To me it sounded like a bunch of drunks having a bachelor's party," he said.

Others said the noise wasn't enough to wake them.

Police Chief Tom Dorner said he doesn't expect to conduct more interviews. He said he would take the case to the district attorney on Monday or Tuesday to consider charges.

Packers spokesman Jeff Blumb said the team is "aware of the reported incident and still are gathering facts."

When apprised that the investigation centered on Underwood, 23, several players who wished to remain anonymous said he had been a problem since he was drafted in the sixth round in 2009 out of Cincinnati. Cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt talked last season about Underwood being immature early in his rookie season.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/95693179.html

Galax Steeler
06-06-2010, 07:01 AM
My gosh here we go with the consential again I just wish the season would get here and get all of this bs behind us.

Bluecoat96
06-06-2010, 07:17 AM
Um,

It would seem to me that Ben's name being released vs. this name not, has everything to do with how the local police handle investigations, and nothing to do with liking or disliking a team. And in fact, THIS is how ALL the investigations SHOULD be handled, IMO.

On the other hand, isn't calling for a ban this early a little extreme? After all, Good-Deal waited until the investigation was finished after the SECOND TIME Ben was accused.

Guess that is a fact that some of us like to forget. THE SECOND TIME.

And as far as it making headlines, there is a difference of "Newsworthiness" between a no-name player (if that is whoever this person is) and a 2 time SB winning QB being accused teh first time JUST AFTER WINNING THE SB and a second time, ONE YEAR LATER.


I agree Preacher. The police don't answer to the league. It's an ongoing investigation, and what information they release is up to the investigators' discretion. If this had happened in Milledgeville, Georgia, then I'd call it BS.

As far as possible suspension, we'll just have to wait to see how it plays out.

I agree with the both of you. I truly believe it has more to do with the local police and the idiot media hacks in the area as opposed to Goodell protecting anyone. Oh well...the Patriots will probably get some extra picks out of this anyway.:lol:

silver & black
06-06-2010, 07:57 AM
Um,

It would seem to me that Ben's name being released vs. this name not, has everything to do with how the local police handle investigations, and nothing to do with liking or disliking a team. And in fact, THIS is how ALL the investigations SHOULD be handled, IMO.

On the other hand, isn't calling for a ban this early a little extreme? After all, Good-Deal waited until the investigation was finished after the SECOND TIME Ben was accused.

Guess that is a fact that some of us like to forget. THE SECOND TIME.

And as far as it making headlines, there is a difference of "Newsworthiness" between a no-name player (if that is whoever this person is) and a 2 time SB winning QB being accused teh first time JUST AFTER WINNING THE SB and a second time, ONE YEAR LATER.

I completely agree with you Preach. I know this doesn't sit well with Steelers fans... and it's understandable.

Since I'm detached from the Ben thing, my question is: WTF is going on with these professional athletes?!

silver & black
06-06-2010, 08:01 AM
You guys truly believe Goodell has it out for the Steelers, and therefore is looking for any excuse to pop off on a vendetta woody??

The Rooney's have constantly been an asset and pillars of the NFL community - for decades - and are deeply respected by not only our fanbase but others, and their organizations.

So, why would Goodell target our team?

Agreed. Hell, I'm a Raiders fan... and I think the Steelers organisation is the best run franchize in pro sports.

SteelerFanInStl
06-06-2010, 11:07 AM
You can't even find this story on nfl.com or espn.com. It's not even being reported.

Killer
06-06-2010, 12:27 PM
Only Steelers players will be dragged through the mud. League rules.

Goodell's press boys are clamping down tight to protect the shield.

BuddhaBus
06-06-2010, 12:36 PM
:upyours:, Goodell, you biased, inconsistent, Hitler-esque, ass puppet! For the love of Michael Jackson's missing nose, would somebody remove this guy as the commish already before he completely destroys the NFL's credibility? :pray:

CanadianSteel
06-06-2010, 01:00 PM
Yup agree that the Commish is a douche....and for some reason he gives the apperance os a douche.
He should comment on this exactly like he did Ben, fine if he wants to wait until the investigation is done to handle disapline, but treat the case the the same, or you are simply being biased and showing favouratism IMO.

Killer
06-06-2010, 01:51 PM
They were 30-something whores....or MILF's............in Wisconsin

2nd year players get the old groupies - you have to work your up the depth chart for the young juicy meat

He's married and has 2 kids.

Probably just fixing up his story for the wife on how them hookers got in his hotel room.

BuddhaBus
06-06-2010, 02:21 PM
I completely agree with you Preach. I know this doesn't sit well with Steelers fans... and it's understandable.

Since I'm detached from the Ben thing, my question is: WTF is going on with these professional athletes?!

More like, "What is going on with these greedy, gold-digging attention whores?" I almost feel like it's because the economy is so far in the shitter with no end in sight, that these women are searching for their meal ticket for the rest of their lives. It just feels like a quick money grab and who the hell cares whose reputation is ruined in the process. "I GOTS MINES!"

Killer
06-06-2010, 02:23 PM
Since I'm detached from the Ben thing, my question is: WTF is going on with these professional athletes?!

Pussy, my man, pussy.

You can fence the dog in, but eventually he'll get out and screw your neighbor's poodle.

silver & black
06-06-2010, 03:05 PM
Pussy, my man, pussy.

You can fence the dog in, but eventually he'll get out and screw your neighbor's poodle.

I have no doubt that's the case. I also have no doubt that the amount of money these guys have gives them a sense of entitlement to do as they please without consequence.

Killer
06-06-2010, 03:12 PM
Unlimited pussy, dope, guns and money are ideals in many households.

You must be from the suburbs.

stillers4me
06-06-2010, 03:18 PM
I have no doubt that's the case. I also have no doubt that the amount of money these guys have gives them a sense of entitlement to do as they please without consequence.

oooorrrrr........it's the money grubbing hobags that think they can make claims and hit the big jackpot by getting a payoff to just go a way. (I'm not saying this is the case with the girl in Georgia. I think her friends got her in way over her head about something they knew nothing about). But there have just been too many woman willing to go into places alone with professional athetes and then come out crying rape or "he threw a glass at me, pay me" to think that all these guys are really "rapists" or "feeling entitled".

Wallace108
06-06-2010, 03:22 PM
oooorrrrr........it's the money grubbing hobags that think they can make claims and hit the big jackpot by getting a payoff to just go a way. (I'm not saying this is the case with the girl in Georgia. I think her friends got her in way over her head about something they knew nothing about). But there have just been too many woman willing to go into places alone with professional athetes and then come out crying rape or "he threw a glass at me, pay me" to think that all these guys are really "rapists" or "feeling entitled".

There are gold diggers out there looking for a setup, but there are also athletes who feel entitled and above the law. This is why you have to judge each case independently and let all the facts come out.

silver & black
06-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Unlimited pussy, dope, guns and money are ideals in many households.

You must be from the suburbs.

Nah, I live in a city that was founded in 1812. If that qualifies as a suburb, I guess I do...lol.

Killer
06-08-2010, 10:20 AM
A gang bang gone wrong?

6 game suspension!


Women who accused Packers players of sexual assault changed story

The two women who accused a Green Bay Packers player of sexually assaulting them at a Wisconsin resort changed their statements during the investigation, the police chief said Monday.

Officers were called early Saturday to a condo in Lake Delton where seven Packers players were staying during a charity golf event. The women initially told investigators they were sexually assaulted by more than one Packer while other players held them down.

After the players were questioned, the women changed their statements to say only one person assaulted them, Lake Delton Police Chief Tom Dorner said.

http://host.madison.com/sports/football/professional/article_29b15ea4-728d-11df-a71b-001cc4c03286.html

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They were obviously paid off by the rapists.