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BPS3akaWirels3
11-14-2010, 04:11 PM
Sources: Pirates hire Clint Hurdle as manager
Sunday, November 14, 2010
By Bill Brink, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
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Clint Hurdle will be the new manager for the Pittsburgh Pirates.


The Pirates have hired Clint Hurdle, the former Texas Rangers' hitting coach, as their 39th manager, 10 days after interviewing him, an industry source said today. Team president Frank Coonelly said the team will hold a press conference Monday morning to announce its new manager, though he would not say who that was. The press conference will be at 11 a.m.
In the 41 days this manager search spanned, the San Francisco Giants won their first World Series since moving west, the Republicans gained 60 seats in the House and Conan O'Brien found his way back on television.
Amidst all this, the Pirates waited for Hurdle. Waited for the World Series to conclude and waited for Hurdle to interview with the Mets. The Pirates chose Hurdle over Jeff Banister, their most recent bench coach and a longtime member of the organization. They interviewed eight candidates, but narrowed their choice to Hurdle or Banister on Nov. 3. Hurdle interviewed with the team the following day.
Hurdle also interviewed with the Mets on Nov. 10.
Hurdle, 53, replaces John Russell, who managed the Pirates from 2008-2010 and compiled a total record of 186-299. The Pirates finished last in the National League Central each year, and lost 105 games this season. The Pirates fired Russell the day after the season ended.
They also interviewed former Indians manager Eric Wedge, who took the vacant Seattle Mariners manager job, and former Milwaukee Brewers manager and Pittsburgh native Ken Macha.
Now Hurdle inherits a team whose starting pitchers lost 84 games last season and had the worst ERA in Major League Baseball, whose defense tied for the most errors committed and whose offense finished with the league's second-lowest batting average.
In hiring Hurdle, the Pirates chose someone who succeeded with an under-performing team. Hurdle managed the Colorado Rockies for parts of eight seasons, from 2002-09, and took them to the World Series in 2007. The Rockies hadn't finished better than third in the National League West since 1997 prior to the Series run. During "Rocktober," Hurdle's Rockies won 14 of their last 15 regular-season games, beat the San Diego Padres in a one-game playoff for the wild-card playoff berth and swept the Philadelphia Phillies and Arizona Diamondbacks to reach the World Series before losing to the Boston Red Sox in four games.
That 2007 season, however, was his only one in Colorado with a winning record, and he was fired in early 2009 with an 18-28 record. He worked as a studio analyst for the MLB Network in 2009 and became the Rangers' hitting coach for the 2010 season.
Hurdle started managing in the Mets' minor-league organization. He managed the Class A St. Lucie Mets in 1988-89 and the Class AA Jackson Mets from 1990-91. He led the Class AAA Tidewater/Norfolk Tides in 1992-93, and joined the Rockies as a minor-league hitting instructor in 1994. He became the Rockies' hitting coach in 1997 and replaced Buddy Bell as manager in 2002.
Hurdle played the majority of his 10 seasons in the major leagues as an outfielder, with the Kansas City Royals, the Cincinnati Reds, the St. Louis Cardinals and the Mets. He had 32 career home runs and a career average of .259. He played in 133 games for the Royals at age 20 in 1978 and played four different positions over the course of the season.
The Royals drafted ninth overall in the 1975 draft, and by September 1977 he reached the major leagues. He batted .329 in the strike-shortened 1981 season, but hurt his back and never returned to form.
Hurdle and his wife, Karla, have two children, Madison and Christian. Madison has Prader-Willi Syndrome, a genetic disorder that affects muscle development and appetite, and Hurdle is a spokesperson for the Prader-Willi Syndrome Association, Hurdle also has an older daughter, Ashley.
Bill Brink: bbrink@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1158.



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Borski
11-14-2010, 04:33 PM
What we really need are some new owners...

BPS3akaWirels3
11-14-2010, 04:37 PM
What we really need are some new owners...

Willn't happen... He bought the team for around $80 mil in the 90's and now worth $380 and making around $15-30 mil a year...

Borski
11-14-2010, 04:41 PM
Willn't happen... He bought the team for around $80 mil in the 90's and now worth $380 and making around $15-30 mil a year...

I know... Its a shame that he won't actually invest in his own team to give them a legit shot to compete. He has plenty of money to be able to afford to, and you'd think that:

Better Players = Better Team
Better Team = More Ticket Sales
More Ticket Sales = Bigger Profit

BPS3akaWirels3
11-14-2010, 04:48 PM
I know... Its a shame that he won't actually invest in his own team to give them a legit shot to compete. He has plenty of money to be able to afford to, and you'd think that:

Better Players = Better Team
Better Team = More Ticket Sales
More Ticket Sales = Bigger Profit


He is... We are going from $34 mil last yr to $50 mil this yr for better pitching... lol jk

steelpride12
11-14-2010, 11:11 PM
Hey won't mean much until Nutting is gone, but as you said ^ it won't happen any time soon he is young and his profit is only rising!

X-Terminator
11-15-2010, 03:03 AM
I know... Its a shame that he won't actually invest in his own team to give them a legit shot to compete. He has plenty of money to be able to afford to, and you'd think that:

Better Players = Better Team
Better Team = More Ticket Sales
More Ticket Sales = Bigger Profit

Three things that are a complete anathma to Bobby Nutjob.
So they fire a losing manager to hire...another losing manager (2007 notwithstanding). Good job, Buccos. :coffee: The fact that the Mets wanted him should have sent up warning alarms to steer clear.

Losing season #19 in a row coming up...

steelpride12
11-15-2010, 06:51 PM
They just interviewed Hurdle who is at the Pens game tonight. You know I know this team won't be much until the teams and city chases him from this city with pitchforks, but it is always interesting and exciting to have a new manager. You just never know what they will bring to the table and the players as well have to be motivated as well.

steelerdude15
11-16-2010, 02:49 PM
Anyone else excited for baseball? :chuckle:

BPS3akaWirels3
11-16-2010, 03:06 PM
Anyone else excited for baseball? :chuckle:

I added a thread that has a countdown clock to opening day..

tube517
11-16-2010, 03:52 PM
Who are the Pirates?

BPS3akaWirels3
11-16-2010, 03:55 PM
Who are the Pirates?

Five time WS Champs that are your worst nightmare jr..

steelerdude15
11-18-2010, 10:20 PM
You know, I wonder what goes through the front office's heads. We all realize that if you have a winning team that more people will come to the games, spend their money at the games, buy more merchandise, etc. If Nutting and the rest haven't figured out, we're a loyal fan base who would buy more tickets and such if they would get and keep talent. We sell out Pitt basketball, Penguins, and Steelers games because they're good teams. I mean, we've sold out every home game since '72.... too bad those morons don't understand.

BPS3akaWirels3
11-18-2010, 10:43 PM
You know, I wonder what goes through the front office's heads. We all realize that if you have a winning team that more people will come to the games, spend their money at the games, buy more merchandise, etc. If Nutting and the rest haven't figured out, we're a loyal fan base who would buy more tickets and such if they would get and keep talent. We sell out Pitt basketball, Penguins, and Steelers games because they're good teams. I mean, we've sold out every home game since '72.... too bad those morons don't understand.

Keep hope alive.. This is the year of the FA pitcher.. We have our eye on two good ones..

X-Terminator
11-18-2010, 11:09 PM
Keep hope alive.. This is the year of the FA pitcher.. We have our eye on two good ones..

I know this is about the time I make some smart-ass remark, but I truly hope the Bucs are serious about improving their pitching and sign a couple of good ones. I'm not asking for a Josh Beckett, $20 million a year pitcher, just a guy you can give the ball to and know that he'll at least keep you in the game. I'm tired of the same old mediocre guys like Duke and Maholm and their 4.50 ERAs.

steelpride12
11-18-2010, 11:50 PM
I know this is about the time I make some smart-ass remark, but I truly hope the Bucs are serious about improving their pitching and sign a couple of good ones. I'm not asking for a Josh Beckett, $20 million a year pitcher, just a guy you can give the ball to and know that he'll at least keep you in the game. I'm tired of the same old mediocre guys like Duke and Maholm and their 4.50 ERAs.
Haha the funny part is I always am expecting a smart ass remark from you in this thread! But I have to agree, this team is missing maybe 1 or two solid hitters, but after that all pitching!

steelerdude15
11-19-2010, 12:29 AM
I agree, if we could get a couple of good pitchers, then we'll be doing better. Pitching has been one of our weakest links for a long time.

BPS3akaWirels3
11-19-2010, 08:34 AM
I know this is about the time I make some smart-ass remark, but I truly hope the Bucs are serious about improving their pitching and sign a couple of good ones. I'm not asking for a Josh Beckett, $20 million a year pitcher, just a guy you can give the ball to and know that he'll at least keep you in the game. I'm tired of the same old mediocre guys like Duke and Maholm and their 4.50 ERAs.

Maholm - 5.10 and Duke 5.72 Get it right... lol


Meek was 2.14 but was below 1.00 before the all-star game... He just sucked win after that..

BPS3akaWirels3
11-19-2010, 08:44 AM
Haha the funny part is I always am expecting a smart ass remark from you in this thread! But I have to agree, this team is missing maybe 1 or two solid hitters, but after that all pitching!

It comes down to the pitching.. We have hitters in Walker, Alvarez, Jones and Jose anddddddddddddd McCutchen when he is on a hot streak..


Pirates are looking at Jorge De La Rosa (4.22 / 8-7 w/l) and Jeff Francis(5.00 / 4/6 w/l) , Brandon Webb (3.00 / 22/7 w/l in 2008) for the starting rotation.

steelpride12
11-19-2010, 10:58 AM
Webb would be awesome! He was a tank before his injury last season

BPS3akaWirels3
11-19-2010, 11:05 AM
Webb would be awesome! He was a tank before his injury last season

Not sure if we can afford him. He has made $28.5 mil since 2004.. Last year $8.5 mil

I can see us getting the other 2 since they come from the Rockies like Clint.