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stillers4me
10-25-2010, 03:45 PM
http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom//img/2010/06/07/fs-exclusive-Mike-Pereira_20100607140602_0_0.JPG (http://msn.foxsports.com/writer/Mike_Pereira)Mike Pereira was the NFL's Vice President of Officiating from 2004-09, having spent the five seasons previous to that as the league's Director of Officiating. He also served as an NFL game official when he acted as side judge for two seasons (1997-98).



Helmet-to-helmets hits were the biggest story of the past week, but I really didn't expect much of that in Week 7, especially after all of the attention it received. I didn't see any cheap shots and there were no penalties for unnecessary roughness on defenseless receivers. A very clean week overall.


However, there were some curious decisions by coaches and officials that are worthy of discussion...................



2. Pittsburgh (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/pittsburgh-steelers/67067) at Miami

THE SITUATION: Pittsburgh had the ball, third-and-goal from the Miami 2-yard line with 2:30 left in the fourth quarter, trailing the Dolphins (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/miami-dolphins/67052), 22-20.



THE PLAY: Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger carried the ball two yards and fumbled as he crossed the goal line. It was ruled a touchdown on the field, but the call was challenged by Miami. The play was reversed, however, because during the review, the officials were unable to determine who recovered the ball in the end zone before the players ended up in a scrum. The play, therefore, was ruled dead at the Miami one-yard line, making fourth-and-goal. Pittsburgh kicked a field goal to take a 23-22 lead.

MY TAKE: This was a very unusual play. The ruling differs in the field of play if the ruling was down by contact vs. a play in the end zone, when the ruling is a touchdown. In the field of play, had this play happened, Miami would have lost the challenge since there wasn't indisputable visual evidence to determine who recovered the ball. The down by contact ruling would have stood in that case.

In this case, the officials ruled touchdown and since the ball was loose before it broke the plane, the touchdown ruling was reversed and the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble. Since the ruling changed from a touchdown to the ball being returned to the spot of the fumble, an aspect of the play was changed and therefore, Miami won the challenge.

An interesting footnote: With just over a minute to play on Miami's next possession, on fourth-and-6 from its 33, Dolphins quarterback Chad Henne (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/chad-henne/535271) threw a pass that was ruled on the field as an interception by Pittsburgh's James Harrison. Well, it wasn't an interception, as the ball clearly hit the ground. But it wasn't an incomplete pass, either.

It was actually a fumble, and the fumble was recovered by Harrison. It wasn't reviewed and probably should have been. Regardless, no matter what the ruling ended up, the result of the play would have been the same. I can't say I've ever seen that before. No matter whether it was an incompletion, an interception or a fumble, Pittsburgh would have gotten the ball at the same spot.



http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jay-Cutler-fumble-goal-line-Ben-Roethlisberger-Steelers-Dolphins-102410

Merchant
10-25-2010, 04:17 PM
It was the correct call. Case closed. Losers go home and cry. Winners go home and f*ck the prom-queen.

tube517
10-25-2010, 04:25 PM
:rofl2:



It was the correct call. Case closed. Losers go home and cry. Winners go home and f*ck the prom-queen.

st33lersguy
10-25-2010, 04:57 PM
It's official, the call was correct

ALLD
10-25-2010, 05:04 PM
He was paid a sack of money by Lee Harvey Oswald to say that.

SteelerFanInStl
10-25-2010, 05:30 PM
He was paid a sack of money by Lee Harvey Oswald to say that.

Of course! It's all a conspiracy to help the Steelers win. :lol:

stillers4me
10-25-2010, 05:37 PM
.........If the linesman hadn't signaled a touchdown, the scrum would have determined possession.

"If the officials had ruled it a fumble, they would have been in the pile digging the ball out, and it would have been survival of the fittest," Pereira said. "If Miami had come up with the ball at that point, it would have been Miami's ball."

For that reason, Dolphins quarterback Chad Pennington (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/People/Athletes/NFL/Chad+Pennington) argued, the linesman shouldn't have been so quick to signal a touchdown. That way the officials on the field would have determined who recovered the ball. "If it looked like the ball was loose, play it out," Pennington said. "Don't throw your hands up in the air, especially in the last two stinking minutes of the game." :baby:

But Pereira said officials aren't trained to hold back on blowing the whistle to let replay sort out a situation. "You make the call your instinct tells you to make," he said.

Coach Tony Sparano said the Dolphins wrote the league requesting an explanation, but he expects nothing to change. And he noted many other factors contributed to the defeat.

"The thing I'm most frustrated about is just that we got close against a good football team in that situation and didn't finish," he said. The Dolphins repeatedly squandered chances to score touchdowns, instead settling five times for field goals. They were again plagued by mistakes in kick coverage and pass coverage. Even after the disputed call, they had a chance to come back but gained only 4 yards in an ugly four-play sequence, losing the ball on downs.

As a result, the Dolphins dropped their fifth game in a row at home, a streak that goes back to last season. They're the first team since the 1982 St. Louis Cardinals (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Organizations/Sports+Leagues/MLB/St.+Louis+Cardinals) to start a season 0-3 at home and 3-0 on the road, according to STATS LLC.

The good news: They're on the road Sunday — at Cincinnati. :lol:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/dolphins/2010-10-25-dolphins-monday_N.htm?csp=34sports&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomNfl-TopStories+%28Sports+-+NFL+-+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Twitter

SteelerFanInStl
10-25-2010, 05:57 PM
Pennington said. "Don't throw your hands up in the air, especially in the last two stinking minutes of the game."

Hey Chad, maybe you should pay more attention to the clock. The play didn't happen in the last two minutes of the game. Also, the officials are SUPPOSED to signal TD as soon as it happens. You can't delay a TD call.

Galax Steeler
10-25-2010, 05:59 PM
I think they need to quit there whining and get on with it.

HometownGal
10-25-2010, 08:20 PM
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salamander
10-25-2010, 08:29 PM
Oh come on... we all know it's a conspiracy when the Steelers win. Every Steelers victory is automatically a fixed game. The NFL favors us oh so much.



:ranger:

Craic
10-25-2010, 08:43 PM
Wow. Interesting statement. It seems that what he is actually saying, is that MIAMI GOT LUCKY that they didn't lose a time out... rather than the Steelers got lucky. Kinda like the Raiders complaining about the "tuck rule". The rules are the rules. Deal with it and move on.

86WARD
10-25-2010, 09:11 PM
Oh come on... we all know it's a conspiracy when the Steelers win. Every Steelers victory is automatically a fixed game. The NFL favors us oh so much.



:ranger:

I prefer it that way. WHy wouldn't you want the officials "on your side?" lol...

$$$$$$$$$$$

86WARD
10-25-2010, 09:13 PM
I laugh at the people that say the ball was recovered by Miami...I laugh hard.

salamander
10-26-2010, 09:30 AM
I prefer it that way. WHy wouldn't you want the officials "on your side?" lol...

$$$$$$$$$$$

Sha-zam!

SteelMember
10-26-2010, 11:25 AM
I'm glad enough "analysts" are coming out defending the call. Whether you like it or not, the correct call was made... according to the rules. If the play is whistled dead because a TD was called, or that he was down by contact, you can't assume anything after that as far as possession. The play was over at that point.

It may be a moot point, but I find this interesting...


It was actually a fumble, and the fumble was recovered by Harrison. It wasn't reviewed and probably should have been. Regardless, no matter what the ruling ended up, the result of the play would have been the same. I can't say I've ever seen that before. No matter whether it was an incompletion, an interception or a fumble, Pittsburgh would have gotten the ball at the same spot.

As a 4th down play, we would get the ball at the LOS for any failed attempt at a 1st down on their part, but if it WAS an INT, or fumble... wouldn't we get the ball at the point of being downed? I don't think they would have been the "same spots".

tube517
10-26-2010, 11:39 AM
I watched the game on my DVR again and it was pretty close to the same spot. Harrison got the ball and was downed at close to the original LOS. And Henne lost the ball before the hand was going forward, so it was technically a fumble.


I'm glad enough "analysts" are coming out defending the call. Whether you like it or not, the correct call was made... according to the rules. If the play is whistled dead because a TD was called, or that he was down by contact, you can't assume anything after that as far as possession. The play was over at that point.

It may be a moot point, but I find this interesting...



As a 4th down play, we would get the ball at the LOS for any failed attempt at a 1st down on their part, but if it WAS an INT, or fumble... wouldn't we get the ball at the point of being downed? I don't think they would have been the "same spots".

SteelMember
10-26-2010, 11:58 AM
I watched the game on my DVR again and it was pretty close to the same spot. Harrison got the ball and was downed at close to the original LOS. And Henne lost the ball before the hand was going forward, so it was technically a fumble.

Watching it live, before I saw the replay discounting a possible INT, I thought it would have actually been better to have just dropped the ball, because I thought they would have had better field position at their original LOS. It was definitely close, but I'm saying it I don't think it would have been "the same".

It doesn't change much here, unless your James Harrison and you lose the fumble recovery on your stat sheet... screwed again. :chuckle:

fansince'76
10-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Oh come on... we all know it's a conspiracy when the Steelers win. Every Steelers victory is automatically a fixed game. The NFL favors us oh so much.



:ranger:

It's true!

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