2023 Week 12- Steelers @ Bengals

[Edman]

Matt Canada got the axe, though I think the offense doesn't really improve much because the Steelers are still using the playbook. Hopefully Faulkner has a better idea on play flow and rhythm. Will KP get outplayed by a backup again? It can't get any worse, could it?

Go Steelers.

[86WARD]

Looking for positive changes in the offense today. Not expecting a huge change but looking for something the players can build off of and looking for some different play calls and a better game plan.

DO expect to see a lot of Warren today as he's attached to Faulkner and if Faulkner is trying to keep a job as an OC, I'd expect Warren to get a healthy dose with Harris getting some as well.

#HereWeGo!

[pczach]

It looks like it's raining pretty hard there. Not exactly perfect scoring conditions.

Let's see what they can do.

[El Kabong]

HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO!!!

[T&B fan]

already improvement

[El Kabong]

Muuuuuuuuth!

A play downfield! Over the middle!

[86WARD]

Already. Play action down the seam…

[crcsnail]

Over the middle ……who knew ?

[pczach]

Well, that didn't take long.

[stillers4me]

Isn't that something

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[86WARD]

That’s already enough improvement…lol

[T&B fan]

DJ still running back

[pczach]

DJ runs backwards.... That hasn't changed..

[El Kabong]

Still throwing short of the sticks on 3rd down.

[86WARD]

Pickett on the third down was reading down field and checked down. Again…another improvement.

[stillers4me]

Opening play was a middle finger Matt Canada

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[T&B fan]

Opening play was a middle finger Matt Canada

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[pczach]

If Heyward just turned up field immediately, he may have made that.

DJ running backwards for a 5 yard loss on second down made it a tough pickup on third down.

[Mojouw]

Less dumb than usual.

[Steeler-in-west]

Still throwing short of the sticks on 3rd down.

KP mad about something on that play, maybe Conner ran the wrong route

[Mojouw]

If Heyward just turned up field immediately, he may have made that.

DJ running backwards for a 5 yard loss on second down made it a tough pickup on third down.

Both true. But I’ll defend DJ a bit. That play was DOA no matter what he did. And IF he managed to break a guys ankles and gain yards everyone cheers.

[pczach]

KP mad about something on that play, maybe Conner ran the wrong route


I think he wanted him to turn up field immediately instead of gathering himself and taking a look before he started running.

[86WARD]

Not a great result because of that DJ screen. However, first play was something we haven’t seen. WR screen wasn’t a terrible idea…just poorly blocked. Third down Pickett was going through progressions downfield and threw to a checkdown. All in all, everything we haven’t seen in a long time.

[pczach]

Both true. But I’ll defend DJ a bit. That play was DOA no matter what he did. And IF he managed to break a guys ankles and gain yards everyone cheers.


The thing people need to understand is that plays like that can happen sometimes, but it is the responsibility of the player to try to get as much as they can....not run backwards. It's what DJ does far too often.

[86WARD]

Watt!!

[pczach]

Good job out of Austin getting up the field and getting as much yardage as he could.

[86WARD]

Both true. But I’ll defend DJ a bit. That play was DOA no matter what he did. And IF he managed to break a guys ankles and gain yards everyone cheers.

I agree and his momentum was going backwards. I don’t think he necessarily ran backwards on purpose but that physics thing got in the way…

[that1guy]

If Pickett had a true #1 reciver his stats would look a lot better

[86WARD]

Pickens involved early. Another good thing…

[T&B fan]

i like that 3down play

[86WARD]

Good third and short play.

[pczach]

Play action can work if it's used.

[86WARD]

Kenny needs to stay on feet there.

[86WARD]

Still hate that draw play.

[T&B fan]

look at that !!!!!!

[Mach1]

Another down the middle

[stillers4me]

Just like that

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[86WARD]

Good third and short play.

MUUUUUUUUUUTH! Nice pass by Kenny. On the money!

[El Kabong]

I LOVE throwing for the first down on 3rd and 14

[pczach]

Gee. Muth can get open and make plays downfield. Who knew?

[crcsnail]

Yoi and double yoi!

[86WARD]

6/6 for 66 yards is a nice start…

[Mach1]

Gee. Muth can get open and make plays downfield. Who knew?

Obviously not Canada

[pczach]

Obviously not Canada


Exactly.

[oneforthetoe]

that was a nice stick

[Mojouw]

Looks like I’m gonna have to eat a ton of crow on KP.

Dude looks like a totally different person.

I never thought Canada was killing his brain this much.

[pczach]

DJ drops another one....................

[El Kabong]

DJ you dumbass

[86WARD]

Johnson sucks. Perfect pass by Pickett and Johnson can’t hold through.

[steelcityboyz]

Thats a TD

[86WARD]

That’s a fumble.

[pczach]

DJ doesn't try to recover the fumble.

[T&B fan]

thats a turn over

[86WARD]

DJ doesn't try to recover the fumble.

His game awareness is just so bad…I’d definitely trade him this off-season. Hes just not smart.

[Mojouw]

That’s just too bad bounces in a row.

[HollywoodSteel]

That could easily be the difference in the game.

We’re outplaying them in every way and in worse position.

[steelcityboyz]

WTF way to implode

[Steeler-in-west]

DJ - terrible concentration, that’s his problem

he needs to take lessons from John Stallworth

[stillers4me]

DJ needs to sit

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[that1guy]

You gotta feel bad for Kenny, he is playing a hell of a game and DJ is doing his usual crap and Warren coughs it up

[tube517]

DJ doesn't try to recover the fumble.Doesn't react and drops a perfect TD. Bonehead

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[86WARD]

DJ has a monsterous ceiling and the lowest of floors.

[pepsyman1]

Thanks DJ...nice job stone hands. You'll never be AB

[86WARD]

Minor implosion going on…

[86WARD]

Thanks DJ...nice job stone hands. You'll never be AB

In DJs defense…not many would become AB.

[Mojouw]

On that replay, DJ did it right.

[Steeler-in-west]

On the bright side, looks like we have an offense

[86WARD]

The replay does look like DJ had a TD. Three steps…my apologies to DJ…

[tube517]

This whole what is a catch bullshit pisses me off

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[steelcityboyz]

On that replay, DJ did it right.That's what i thought.. should have challenged, but you know.

[pepsyman1]

In DJs defense…not many would become AB.

You're absolutely right, but if you ask DJ, he's one of the elite WR in the league.

[pczach]

On that replay, DJ did it right.


It may have been a TD, and maybe Tomlin should have challenged it, but he still needs to squeeze that ball. Nobody was on him immediately. He had a lot of time to tuck that away with two hands to make sure that couldn't happen.

[86WARD]

You're absolutely right, but if you ask DJ, he's one of the elite WR in the league.

Not trying to bust balls…Chase Claypool said the same…lol. I think it’s a WR thing.

[pepsyman1]

Wow! Go Najee Go

[86WARD]

Best run of Harris’ career! BEAST MODE! [emoji23]

[pczach]

Looks like I’m gonna have to eat a ton of crow on KP.

Dude looks like a totally different person.

I never thought Canada was killing his brain this much.


It's a little early to say you are completely wrong about Pickett.

Remember, none of this was on film. Defenses aren't expecting some of what they have seen.

Kenny certainly looks in control and is seeing the field, but we need to see more.

[Mach1]

Angry run candidate

[86WARD]

120 yards of offense in the first quarter. [emoji50]

[pczach]

Great run by Najee Harris!

[pepsyman1]

Not trying to bust balls…Chase Claypool said the same…lol. I think it’s a WR thing.

Oh, be honest....You're busting balls. :). :). :)

[86WARD]

It's a little early to say you are completely wrong about Pickett.

Remember, none of this was on film. Defenses aren't expecting some of what they have seen.

Kenny certainly looks in control and is seeing the field, but we need to see more.

Yeah…not yet…

[pczach]

Angry run candidate


No doubt!

[86WARD]

Oh, be honest....You're busting balls. :). :). :)

I just excuses for days! [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

[tube517]

Angry run candidateHe was pissed in the post game locker room taking questions last week. Love to see it

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[tube517]

Not trying to bust balls…Chase Claypool said the same…lol. I think it’s a WR thing.Stop busting balls and posting cartoons 86!

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[pepsyman1]

Steelers 1st quarter stats are equivalent to Canada's full game goals....lol

[86WARD]

Dropping dimes!!

[tube517]

Ok DJ i see you

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[pczach]

THere you go DJ!

Great throw!

[steelcityboyz]

Nice throw KP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[86WARD]

Stop busting balls and posting cartoons 86!

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[pepsyman1]

The Wizard of Boz puts points on the board

[pczach]

Hit Kenny's arm.

[Edman]

Looks like I’m gonna have to eat a ton of crow on KP.

Dude looks like a totally different person.

I never thought Canada was killing his brain this much.

It's a little early for that. We still don't know the little nuances of KP's game that Defenses can key on. But it's clear Canada has stifled and limited him.

[stillers4me]

Definitely looking better but we have to finish.

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[Mojouw]

It's a little early to say you are completely wrong about Pickett.

Remember, none of this was on film. Defenses aren't expecting some of what they have seen.

Kenny certainly looks in control and is seeing the field, but we need to see more.

I agree. And I expect swings back and forth from a mean. But he’s displaying a confidence not seen.

[86WARD]

Boz!

[pczach]

Not many points to show for it, but they are playing much better on offense. Pickett has been terrific so far.

If not for a fumble and a possible TD pass that was called incomplete, this would be at least a 10-0 lead.

[tube517]

A little bit of progress. Still long way to go.

Previous OC would have been four three and outs by now

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[Mojouw]

It's a little early for that. We still don't know the little nuances of KP's game that Defenses can key on. But it's clear Canada has stifled and limited him.

Yeah. KP has initially looked like someone who has an understanding of how football works. Something not seen for over a year.

[pepsyman1]

Why would you kick the kickoff that way?

[86WARD]

7/10 for 105 and a TD that got called back.

[pczach]

I agree. And I expect swings back and forth from a mean. But he’s displaying a confidence not seen.


That's what can happen when a young QB works hand-in-hand with his coaches to get him in the best positions to play well.

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What is going on with the kick return coverage the last few games? They are giving up a ton of yards.

[Mach1]

Shit

[pczach]

If that happens to us, that's an INT.

[pepsyman1]

That makes me sick.....it started with that bullshit kickoff

[86WARD]

Too easy for Cincinnati. Defense needs to buckle down.

[El Kabong]

I cannot believe we are losing this goddamn game.

[oneforthetoe]

wow

[pczach]

Totally outplayed, but a big special teams play and a lucky shit bounce gets them the lead.

[Mojouw]

At some point the luck has to even out, right?

Sheesh.

[86WARD]

That's what can happen when a young QB works hand-in-hand with his coaches to get him in the best positions to play well.

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What is going on with the kick return coverage the last few games? They are giving up a ton of yards.

Can focus back on how shitty Danny Smith is??

:wink:

[86WARD]

With Canada gone…are they still not built to play from behind?

[steelcityboyz]

Ok let's see what Kenny and company are made of.

[Edman]

Picked a fine time for the special teams to blow it.

Steelers are behind. Let's see what they're made of.

[tube517]

Can focus back on how shitty Danny Smith is??

:wink:Is Danny even out of his house with that injury?

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[Mach1]

Imagine that Kennys head turns

[tube517]

A throw to mt washington! What a big dude

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[steelcityboyz]

nice to see the TE being used

[86WARD]

Even Washington getting into it.

[pczach]

Washington almost fell down without anyone touching him, then he bulls a bunch of defenders for a first down.

[86WARD]

Is Danny even out of his house with that injury?

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I think I saw him there last week.

[pepsyman1]

That one is on Kenny

[86WARD]

I think Pickett was shell shocked on that one…PTSD. That happens in every game though.

[Mach1]

Not on the same page again

[T&B fan]

can't fix everything in 5 days

[steelcityboyz]

can't fix everything in 5 daysTrue story

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need a turnover big time.

[pczach]

TJ in coverage playing it tight.

[El Kabong]

SACK!!!!

[86WARD]

The missle Nick Herbig!

[pczach]

Love how Herbig exploded on him!

[tube517]

Wow Herbig flew down the field

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[El Kabong]

Okay, let's see a TD.

[steelcityboyz]

BIG TIME PLAY Herbig

[86WARD]

Let’s go offense…let’s get the TD back.

[tube517]

nice to see the TE being usedTEs have 4 catches already.

Now 5

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[86WARD]

Picketts accuracy is much better…

[86WARD]

That’s a new formation.

[T&B fan]

that play still sucks

[pczach]

Muth is doing real blocking. That's new this season too. He must be fully healed.

[El Kabong]

The pistol a new wrinkle?

[Mach1]

That’s a new formation.

I guess they're not too stupid to learn new plays

[Mojouw]

Uggghhhh.

[86WARD]

Warren needs to beat the first guy…that’s on him.

[86WARD]

Garbage.

[stillers4me]

I cannot believe we are losing this goddamn game.Imagine what 4th quarter Kenny will look like now

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[Mojouw]

Muth is doing real blocking. That's new this season too. He must be fully healed.

Looks like it.

[pczach]

Too bad he didn't recognize Robinson uncovered to his right.

Warren is supposed to make someone miss in that much space. Not good on that one.

[pepsyman1]

The play calling has definitely favored Najee's style over Jaylen, but we can see the difference the play calling can make. Najee looks like he's in his element getting some carries where he can get a step of momentum.

[El Kabong]

As far as I'm concerned they can take any and all horizontal passes out of the playbook, tear them up, and throw them away.

[pczach]

Warren needs to beat the first guy…that’s on him.


Yep

[T&B fan]

that on TJ

[El Kabong]

We fail to get the sack, and it's a big play...and a penalty to boot. Arrrrgh, this game.

[86WARD]

Come on defense.

[pczach]

You can't miss that sack. The QB turtled and didn't even try to get away.

[Mojouw]

Every single break going Cindy’s way.

This must be how 6 other teams feel when playing the Steelers!

[Mojouw]

You can't miss that sack. The QB turtled and didn't even try to get away.

Sullivan can. He’s excellent at not finishing tackles.

[pepsyman1]

As far as I'm concerned they can take any and all horizontal passes out of the playbook, tear them up, and throw them away.

I have no argument against this amazing idea.

[pczach]

Every single break going Cindy’s way.

This must be how 6 other teams feel when playing the Steelers!


I almost posted the exact same thing a minute ago!

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Sullivan can. He’s excellent at not finishing tackles.


It totally changes the game. Now the Bengals have a chance for more points before halftime.

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They can't get a break with these bounces.

[86WARD]

Turnover would be nice.

[86WARD]

Nice play JPJ!

[pczach]

Porter all over it!

[El Kabong]

Great play, JPJ

[pepsyman1]

Wow...great play from JP jr

[DuckHodges]

Still not allowed to play offense in the first 3 quarters ever

[pczach]

Get Pickens involved!

[86WARD]

Muth!

[86WARD]

Get Pickens involved!

Had him involved early and haven’t gone back…

[pczach]

Looking like a big time tight end again.

See ya Canada.

[86WARD]

Pump fake!

[86WARD]

Far from a “hold” in Jones.

[86WARD]

O-Line news to be better.

[pczach]

Jones beaten like a drum on that one.

[pepsyman1]

I don't care what happens the rest of this game...if nothing else it becomes VERY evident that the biggest problem with the offense was indeed...MATT CANADA. Kenny looks like a QB. We're moving the ball and the play calling looks totally different.

[Mojouw]

If they run that draw to just punt….

[86WARD]

I don't care what happens the rest of this game...if nothing else it becomes VERY evident that the biggest problem with the offense was indeed...MATT CANADA. Kenny looks like a QB. We're moving the ball and the play calling looks totally different.

Have the same feeling. After watching this, it feels like a “win” already.

[that1guy]

A lot of missed opportunities, DJ drop/non challenge, Muth getting his feet tangled up and falling, Warren fumble. Pickett has played very well, the Steelers should be up at half time.

[pepsyman1]

Have the same feeling. After watching this, it feels like a “win” already.

Last week we only had 249 yards of offense the whole game and that was with a 74 yard run in there. We've got 222 yards at halftime today with everyone involved and a good run/pass mix

[Born2Steel]

Weird but this game doesn’t have the same Steelers/Bengals feel to it. Kinda boring really.

[Jens_Karlsson]

me so happy

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[Mojouw]

TV production is so goofy. Like I’m supposed to believe Davis just spends the game hanging out playing with a football for no reason.

[86WARD]

Come on defense.

[86WARD]

I like Roberts.

[86WARD]

Crossing routes are open all the time.

[steelcityboyz]

Well, i see the defense didn't make any adjustments at the half.

[El Kabong]

Somehow our defense seems helpless to stop this rookie-led juggernaut

[86WARD]

Nice catch

[tube517]

Taunting

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[86WARD]

4 very weak players on the defense….

[T&B fan]

yes

[pczach]

Taunting

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THey only call it on Steeler's receivers.

[Mach1]

About time D

[Mojouw]

There we go.

Thompson might’ve baited that one.

[El Kabong]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[tube517]

Thompson!

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[86WARD]

YES!!!!

T2!!!!!!


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[pczach]

Thompson might be the best of the backup bunch!

He's been pretty solid.

[tube517]

I like Thompson. He should stay on the field when Minkah comes back

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[El Kabong]

YES!!!!

T2!!!!!!


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A screen worked!

[86WARD]

That’s how it should work!!

[pczach]

Nice play to Warren.

[El Kabong]

Better throw, Kenny

[86WARD]

Miss on Pickett…damn. But the route was there…

[El Kabong]

Good job, Kenny

[pczach]

Had Pickens. Missed him.

[El Kabong]

Muuuuuuth, another conversion by Kenny

[pczach]

Keep this drive going. Muth again.

[86WARD]

Players sitting in zones for receptions.

One thing we have not seen…”back shoulder” throws…

[86WARD]

Nice toss play.

I’m seeing A LOT of positives today.

[pczach]

Come on OL.

[pepsyman1]

Najee has looked very strong today

[Mojouw]

For me, the biggest positive is that KP is playing like he has a brain again.

He played dumb for most of the season.

[El Kabong]

Another great conversion by Kenny

[T&B fan]

going to hit the magical 400 yds for the first time in for ever

[Mach1]

For me, the biggest positive is that KP is playing like he has a brain again.

He played dumb for most of the season.

You can thank mat canada for that

[pczach]

Muth is always a good choice on money downs.

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Finish....finish...finish!

[Mach1]

Damn a flag

[dislocatedday]

Whew......TD stands

[86WARD]

Another TD called back?

[86WARD]

TD Naj!!!

[86WARD]

Najee is running with some anger! I like it.

[dislocatedday]

going to hit the magical 400 yds for the first time in for ever

That would be something else if that happens. I wonder if Canada is watching this game today.

[pepsyman1]

That was a great drive....don't know how the rest of the game or the season will go, but all of us Canada haters are vindicated. I think we have a good QB. Don't know if he'll be everything we want but I think he could be.

[pczach]

That should have been a hold. First good break.

I'll take it. 7 baby!!

[tube517]

Najee needs to be pissed every week.

Send Dulac to ask a dumb question and post a tweet with wrong information.



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[pepsyman1]

That would be something else if that happens. I wonder if Canada is watching this game today.


Might as well. This game is only making sure he never works in the NFL again...lol

[Edman]

For me, the biggest positive is that KP is playing like he has a brain again.

He played dumb for most of the season.

Imagine how much further along in his evaluation he would be if:

1) The Steelers started him from the onset and 2) Got Rid of Canada after '22.

You can't evaluate if a Quarterback can play in the NFL if he doesn't play in an professional NFL Offense. Canada would make Patrick Mahomes look like a moron.

[pczach]

That was a great drive....don't know how the rest of the game or the season will go, but all of us Canada haters are vindicated. I think we have a good QB. Don't know if he'll be everything we want but I think he could be.


It's just nice to see something resembling an NFL offense. An offense that can pick up first downs on 3rd and 11 once in a while. They just look much better so far and so does Kenny.

[86WARD]

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[El Kabong]

I believe Kenny converted 3 3rd downs that drive

[pczach]

The defense better start to tighten it up.

[pepsyman1]

Will wonders never cease. They called one of the never ending holds on TJ

[T&B fan]

on that QB run there was a clear hold on the back jersey on Hayward

[Mojouw]

It's just nice to see something resembling an NFL offense. An offense that can pick up first downs on 3rd and 11 once in a while. They just look much better so far and so does Kenny.

And on one of those, the route run by one receiver opened up the first down grab for another.

[Born2Steel]

What do you do if you start the 4th qtr with the lead? Is that legal?

[tube517]

on that QB run there was a clear hold on the back jersey on HaywardYep. Clear hold on Heyward

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[El Kabong]

ANOTHER tip into Chase's hands??????

[86WARD]

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[tube517]

Another lucky tip
Damn

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[steelcityboyz]

Unreal

[pczach]

And on one of those, the route run by one receiver opened up the first down grab for another.


I know. It's as if someone dusted off the plays that make sense and are using them.

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WTF is going on with this shit luck.

That was clearly a pick. He was blocking before the ball was thrown.

[tube517]

Oh Danny Smith is on the sidelines.

Ok 86 post a cartoon :chuckle:

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[pczach]

Kazee needs to catch that INT.

[Mach1]

SACK

[El Kabong]

SACK

[pczach]

THey ran a stunt with Watt.

[86WARD]

Cam! Watt!

[86WARD]

Oh Danny Smith is on the sidelines.

Ok 86 post a cartoon :chuckle:

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[steelcityboyz]

need another td. let's finish this shit.

[pczach]

need another td. let's finish this shit.


Only a touchdown could potentially do it.

I would love to see them put together another drive right here.

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That was a perfect pass. The defender slowed him up to make that a tough catch.

I hope Pickens is OK.