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Mojouw
10-10-2023, 09:04 AM
So who would you trade away or trade for prior to the deadline if you were running the ship?

Not well thought out ideas:

Any center I can get my hands on.
Another WR.
A "failed" CB draft pick on someone's roster with physical traits that I think I can rehab.


And "Offensive Coordinator" is not an answer!

tube517
10-10-2023, 09:25 AM
You can get Steven Sims off of Houstons practice squad and cut Gunnar.

Realistic in that Sims knows Canadas shit system and played with Kenny. No brainer. Also solves backup PUnt Returner issue.

Is there any center that isn't starting but has "promise"? Depth even for next year is a good thing. I thought I read about a backup on the Washington football team but maybe mistaken

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Dwinsgames
10-10-2023, 09:35 AM
You can get Steven Sims off of Houstons practice squad and cut Gunnar.

Realistic in that Sims knows Canadas shit system and played with Kenny. No brainer. Also solves backup PUnt Returner issue.

Is there any center that isn't starting but has "promise"? Depth even for next year is a good thing. I thought I read about a backup on the Washington football team but maybe mistaken

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Ricky Stromberg

86WARD
10-10-2023, 11:31 AM
Pending Diontae Johnson health (and the OC), Jerry Jeudy is a guy I would be trading for.

Kareem Jackson at Safety

Garrett Bolles at Tackle


All three of those guys come from a “selling team”.

I mean if you want to really blockbuster it, package picks and Harris to the Colts for Jonathan Taylor.

I’d also be looking for a Center and I’d give a first round pick for a premiere center.

BlackAndGold
10-10-2023, 05:02 PM
If it did not take more than one first round pick, Patrick Surtain would be my big move.

RunNGun
10-10-2023, 05:10 PM
They don't have a lot of guys that have 1 or 2 years left on their contract that have any value. Trubisky and Rudolph are probably our most desirable players. Trubisky has 2 years left and Rudolph has 1. If we could trade Trubisky for an OL, CB, or S with potential I'd be all for it. Would even be happy with a 5-7 draft pick, for either.

Born2Steel
10-10-2023, 06:30 PM
The Panthers have Jaycee Horn coming up on his 5th year option in 2024. I would give a pick and a player to have JPjr on one side and Jaycee Horn on the other at CB.

steelreserve
10-10-2023, 06:32 PM
Gunner Olszewski - a first-rounder and a third-rounder NOT to have him.

Steeler-in-west
10-10-2023, 07:36 PM
DJ and Cole for Corey Linsley

Mojouw
10-10-2023, 07:57 PM
Gunner Olszewski - a first-rounder and a third-rounder NOT to have him.

Might have to add some future first rounders

MikeT
10-11-2023, 07:12 AM
I am not sure you make a trade unless something silly you cant pass up comes along. This is not a playoff team and def not a player away from having a legit chance at making it. Even if the Steelers make it to the playoffs they are not going to be able to handle the top teams in the league. As much as it pains me to say that its the truth. Usually (not always) if you are making a in season trade its paying a premium for a difference maker that will put you over the top. Just not a smart move right now unless its another Minkah type trade where you can trade a first for a sure thing.

Born2Steel
10-11-2023, 09:59 AM
I am not sure you make a trade unless something silly you cant pass up comes along. This is not a playoff team and def not a player away from having a legit chance at making it. Even if the Steelers make it to the playoffs they are not going to be able to handle the top teams in the league. As much as it pains me to say that its the truth. Usually (not always) if you are making a in season trade its paying a premium for a difference maker that will put you over the top. Just not a smart move right now unless its another Minkah type trade where you can trade a first for a sure thing.

It's only week6 and we're on our bye, so 5 games in. 12 games to go. Don't throw away the rest of the season just because of a terrible slow start. How many teams have we seen in this league come out of the gates on fire only to fade away at some point? Get better each week, take 1 week at a time, go 1-0 this week, and all the other cliches. Constantly building for the future. A trade that makes us better always makes sense.

DuckHodges
10-11-2023, 11:43 PM
Uncle Rico

pczach
10-12-2023, 08:36 AM
Ricky Stromberg


Stromberg would be worth a flyer. I liked him coming into the draft. Several of us did. He is likely available for an affordable price.

Depending on the Steelers' evaluation of him, he would be worth a shot IMO. Cole has been a disaster this season.

If they want a proven, quality center, they are going to have to give up a lot more.

Mojouw
10-12-2023, 08:52 AM
I just realized that their best trade is going to be activating Johnson from IR and needing a roster spot. In my perfect world, Freirmuth needs another week...so they keep Williams up and they still need a spot....so the useless mighty midget FINALLY gets shown the door!

I will be happier about that then I was when they cut that safety I couldn't stand.

pczach
10-12-2023, 09:18 AM
I just realized that their best trade is going to be activating Johnson from IR and needing a roster spot. In my perfect world, Freirmuth needs another week...so they keep Williams up and they still need a spot....so the useless mighty midget FINALLY gets shown the door!

I will be happier about that then I was when they cut that safety I couldn't stand.


Getting DJ back is huge for Pickett. It will also now help free up Pickens, who has been learning to deal with double teams while DJ was out. Pickens is now a better player for it. DJ will now also have more room to operate, as will the TE's. I want Muth back as quickly as possible to get back to full strength, but I understand the path you seek.

Gunner needs to be gone. Go get Sims back. Sims was actually getting better at WR things and making some plays. He was also a better return man than Gunner IMO.

CUT GUNNER now please!!!!! :lol:

tube517
10-12-2023, 09:19 AM
Stromberg would be worth a flyer. I liked him coming into the draft. Several of us did. He is likely available for an affordable price.

Depending on the Steelers' evaluation of him, he would be worth a shot IMO. Cole has been a disaster this season.

If they want a proven, quality center, they are going to have to give up a lot more.

Maybe Stromberg for Gunnar? :chuckle:

Stromberg would be good for at least depth? i have no idea just saw his name before first game as a potential get.

tube517
10-12-2023, 09:25 AM
I just realized that their best trade is going to be activating Johnson from IR and needing a roster spot. In my perfect world, Freirmuth needs another week...so they keep Williams up and they still need a spot....so the useless mighty midget FINALLY gets shown the door!

I will be happier about that then I was when they cut that safety I couldn't stand.

Hopefully this can at least happen:

Activate DJ
Austin gets healthier over the bye

Harvin, Moore, Leal, Daniels heal up before Rams game. That's alot of starters back on for "active" list.

Gunner declared INACTIVE for the Rams game and after.

Also they just picked up a FB from the Niners. He may be activated off practice squad because he has return experience. We'll see.

pczach
10-12-2023, 09:28 AM
Maybe Stromberg for Gunnar? :chuckle:

Stromberg would be good for at least depth? i have no idea just saw his name before first game as a potential get.


Stromberg is an unknown quantity. He is not a sure-fire answer. Just an inexpensive, unproven young player to see what he can do.

I would be all for trading for a proven center, but it is unlikely that a team would part with them without overpaying.

86WARD
10-12-2023, 04:17 PM
I just realized that their best trade is going to be activating Johnson from IR and needing a roster spot. In my perfect world, Freirmuth needs another week...so they keep Williams up and they still need a spot....so the useless mighty midget FINALLY gets shown the door!

I will be happier about that then I was when they cut that safety I couldn't stand.

That’s one of the better ideas to come across this message board…

DesertSteel
10-13-2023, 09:35 AM
I'd trade Najee Harris for a R3 draft pick. A practice squad player can equal his production.

Mojouw
10-13-2023, 10:17 AM
The more I hear the internet talking about it; the more I like the idea of prying a CB lose from the Bears. Both this guy and Porter would make mistakes and have communication issues as they adjust on the fly to a new scheme and being the starter, but I will take that over Wallace and Peterson.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/yes-pittsburgh-steelers-should-trade-cornerback

The linked random speculation also throws out Surtain from the Broncos. That seems far-fetched and unlikely that the Broncos blow it up that far. But if they did....yes, please.

pczach
10-13-2023, 02:25 PM
The more I hear the internet talking about it; the more I like the idea of prying a CB lose from the Bears. Both this guy and Porter would make mistakes and have communication issues as they adjust on the fly to a new scheme and being the starter, but I will take that over Wallace and Peterson.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/yes-pittsburgh-steelers-should-trade-cornerback

The linked random speculation also throws out Surtain from the Broncos. That seems far-fetched and unlikely that the Broncos blow it up that far. But if they did....yes, please.



Dealing with the Bears is fun. They may never want to talk to the Steelers again. :chuckle:

We should find a way to get Jaylon Johnson at CB and Jaquan Brisker at SS.

Far-fetched I know, but it would complete our secondary. Two really good young players on a bad team.

Of course Surtain would be amazing.

Mojouw
10-13-2023, 03:15 PM
Dealing with the Bears is fun. They may never want to talk to the Steelers again. :chuckle:

We should find a way to get Jaylon Johnson at CB and Jaquan Brisker at SS.

Far-fetched I know, but it would complete our secondary. Two really good young players on a bad team.

Of course Surtain would be amazing.

I just can't imagine that the Bears would deal with Steelers again. Maybe because they were sending a player out?

Honestly, I am all for more trading with the Steelers and across the NFL. It is a totally under-utilized avenue to getting better. Teams are willing to sign free agents off the street to fill holes in the middle of the season but resist the same idea with trades because the player won't know the system? C'mon that's just silly on its face.

Rotorhead
10-16-2023, 09:25 PM
Can we trade the entire Off coaching staff for a group that knows what they are doing?

86WARD
10-18-2023, 05:49 AM
Can we trade the entire Off coaching staff for a group that knows what they are doing?

At this point, I’d trade them all for Nathaniel Hackett and Adam Gase.

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SteelMember
10-18-2023, 06:21 AM
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Pelissero also reported the Steelers signed rookie cornerback Darius Rush off of the Kansas City Chiefs practice squad. The simultaneous moves mean Pittsburgh does not have an open roster spot to keep King and Rush without cutting someone else.

King, 28, has 53 games of starting experience on his resume and tallied five interceptions between 2021 and 2022. Pittsburgh could possibly find a trade partner in a short span, but if not, King will likely be a top free agent was released.

Rotorhead
10-18-2023, 09:47 PM
At this point, I’d trade them all for Nathaniel Hackett and Adam Gase.

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The sad thing is they would probably be an improvement!

86WARD
10-19-2023, 10:21 AM
Can’t argue that.

Mojouw
10-28-2023, 03:05 PM
What about Wallace back to the Bills? Internet speculation is that the Bills are looking for CB help and that despite what Twitter claims...the Broncos have no interest in moving Surtain. So send Wallace back from whence he came for like a conditional middle round something or other?

Then play Rush, Bucaroo, JPJ, and literally anyone else.

86WARD
10-28-2023, 03:36 PM
What about Wallace back to the Bills? Internet speculation is that the Bills are looking for CB help and that despite what Twitter claims...the Broncos have no interest in moving Surtain. So send Wallace back from whence he came for like a conditional middle round something or other?

Then play Rush, Bucaroo, JPJ, and literally anyone else.

Sure…but Rush, Buddy Bucaroo, Luca Brasi or whomever is going to be a slightly more worse shit show but at this stage…go for it. Maybe one turns out to be half decent…

Mojouw
10-28-2023, 03:49 PM
Sure…but Rush, Buddy Bucaroo, Luca Brasi or whomever is going to be a slightly more worse shit show but at this stage…go for it. Maybe one turns out to be half decent…
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86WARD
10-28-2023, 03:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy62HIMrfjY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

This is definitely worth the view in regards to Steelers DBs…

Hilarious!

BlackAndGold
10-28-2023, 05:19 PM
Steelers may not trade Levi Wallace to the Bills but I can see the Steelers trading for Bills CB Kaiir Elam. 1st round pick in 2022 has struggled and was recently benched, reports are he is on the block and will be moved. He should be cheap(6th round pick) but the Steelers like first round pedigree. They met with Elam at the combine.

I think there is a small possibility that Edmunds is brought back but only if it's for basically nothing. (EX: 2025 7th round pick swap)

Last thought. I don't think they add anything on offense but Hunter Renfrow would be interesting. He's a (tough) good slot receiver that gets open and looks to get yard after the catch but for some reason has fell out of favor with Josh McDaniel's. His contract isn't bad but also isn't cheap. So not sure what the price would be as the Raiders would need to eat some of that contract one way or another.

pczach
10-28-2023, 05:20 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy62HIMrfjY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

This is definitely worth the view in regards to Steelers DBs…

Hilarious!



That was kind of brutally funny! :sofunny:

Mojouw
10-28-2023, 05:31 PM
Steelers may not trade Levi Wallace to the Bills but I can see the Steelers trading for Bills CB Kaiir Elam. 1st round pick in 2022 has struggled and was recently benched, reports are he is on the block and will be moved. He should be cheap(6th round pick) but the Steelers like first round pedigree. They met with Elam at the combine.

I think there is a small possibility that Edmunds is brought back but only if it's for basically nothing. (EX: 2025 7th round pick swap)

Last thought. I don't think they add anything on offense but Hunter Renfrow would be interesting. He's a (tough) good slot receiver that gets open and looks to get yard after the catch but for some reason has fell out of favor with Josh McDaniel's. His contract isn't bad but also isn't cheap. So not sure what the price would be as the Raiders would need to eat some of that contract one way or another.

I can see the Elam trade. Maybe Wallace is part of that deal?

Can you tell I’m into getting Wallace out of town and trying any and all other options. :)

BlackAndGold
10-28-2023, 05:39 PM
Can you tell I’m into getting Wallace out of town and trying any and all other options. :)

I don't blame you. He was good last year, idk what happened.

pczach
10-28-2023, 08:11 PM
I don't blame you. He was good last year, idk what happened.


So much of the game is psychological. He played with so much more confidence last season. This season he seems incapable of staying near receivers. It's the damndest thing. I don't know if they are making him play differently than last year that is contributing to his problems, or if he literally lost all confidence in his play. Playing arrogantly and with a short memory serves you well when defending the athletic marvels that are NFL wide receivers.

It looks like it's in his head. His foot injury may be more of a problem than is being reported. He looks like he is beat before the ball is even snapped.

Mojouw
10-28-2023, 09:58 PM
I know I’m a broken record on this but Edmunds leaving takes MF out of the cover up mistakes role. I think Wallace in particular struggles without knowing that Minkah is available to fix mistakes.

Minkah has to play closer to the box now and it has a noticeable impact.

pczach
10-29-2023, 12:03 AM
I know I’m a broken record on this but Edmunds leaving takes MF out of the cover up mistakes role. I think Wallace in particular struggles without knowing that Minkah is available to fix mistakes.

Minkah has to play closer to the box now and it has a noticeable impact.


I think you are correct and I have been saying the same thing.

There is no doubt that things have not gone as hoped after watching Edmunds walk. He may not have been a great player, but Edmunds was a good complimentary player that allowed Minkah to play center field and diagnose where the ball is going so he could ballhawk and make plays. They are currently weaker without him than they were with him.

Born2Steel
10-29-2023, 12:05 AM
Who is the other Safety not named Minkah?

86WARD
10-29-2023, 12:17 PM
Diontae Johnson for draft picks.

Shoes
10-29-2023, 01:13 PM
Diontae Johnson for draft picks.

picks?? that's pretty funny Bro! How about 3 Swedish new potatoes? :chuckle:

86WARD
10-29-2023, 01:15 PM
picks?? that's pretty funny Bro! How about 3 Swedish new potatoes? :chuckle:

4 twice baked potatoes.

Mojouw
10-29-2023, 01:55 PM
4 twice baked potatoes.

That’s ridiculous. Gotta get at least 7.

BlackAndGold
10-29-2023, 03:29 PM
If Minkah is out for an extended time, a safety will be needed. Kazee and Neal are awful.

86WARD
10-29-2023, 03:43 PM
If Minkah is out for an extended time, a safety will be needed. Kazee and Neal are awful.

They’re fine without…need to start piling up losses.

Steeldude
10-29-2023, 08:15 PM
Pretty much the entire team is expendable for trading other than Watt and Pickens.

Jens_Karlsson
10-30-2023, 04:59 AM
Should be able to get something for Najee, Mitch

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86WARD
10-30-2023, 11:21 AM
There are several teams out there that they could’ve possibly sent Mitch to and if he had played well yesterday, they’d probably have gotten inquiries…Minnesota, NYG, LA Rams, LA Raiders, Chicago…but alas, Trubisky played normal and continues to be worth nothing…

Mojouw
10-31-2023, 08:25 AM
Looks the CB market is going to see a bit of discussion at least.

Does anyone actually know if this Johnson dude out of Chicago is any good? I mean he's playing better than Wallace and Old Man River...

EDIT: Just did some google stuff. He seems like exactly what they want at CB right now. Tall, long, physical...etc.

So....how much would you give up? A 2nd and Levi Wallace (throwing in the player so the Bears have someone to roll out there)? A 2nd and a future 3rd?

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There are several teams out there that they could’ve possibly sent Mitch to and if he had played well yesterday, they’d probably have gotten inquiries…Minnesota, NYG, LA Rams, LA Raiders, Chicago…but alas, Trubisky played normal and continues to be worth nothing…

Honestly....if Mitch had just stayed on the bench, he could've had some trade value. There are about to be some pretty desperate teams out there....but sadly, 'ol Mitch just had to go play ball and do Mitch things.

pczach
10-31-2023, 12:59 PM
Looks the CB market is going to see a bit of discussion at least.

Does anyone actually know if this Johnson dude out of Chicago is any good? I mean he's playing better than Wallace and Old Man River...

EDIT: Just did some google stuff. He seems like exactly what they want at CB right now. Tall, long, physical...etc.

So....how much would you give up? A 2nd and Levi Wallace (throwing in the player so the Bears have someone to roll out there)? A 2nd and a future 3rd?

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Honestly....if Mitch had just stayed on the bench, he could've had some trade value. There are about to be some pretty desperate teams out there....but sadly, 'ol Mitch just had to go play ball and do Mitch things.


Yes, Johnson is a hell of a player. The problem is, if they trade for him, his contract ends next season so he is going to need a contract and he is going to demand huge money.

Born2Steel
10-31-2023, 01:38 PM
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/joey-porter-jr-1.html

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/darius-rush-1.html

These are 2 CBs that if they work out to potential we are set at the position for the next 4 years minimum. I understand they are IFs. But I’m being optimistic.

Mojouw
10-31-2023, 02:08 PM
Yes, Johnson is a hell of a player. The problem is, if they trade for him, his contract ends next season so he is going to need a contract and he is going to demand huge money.

Who else are they gonna pay? I’ve not looked at their cap situation but they’ve gotta have some cash to throw around.

They’ve locked up the stars and I can’t think of another player that’s gonna need big $$$. Ogunjobi?

BlackAndGold
10-31-2023, 04:51 PM
Trading for Jaylon Johnson would have started with a 2nd round pick. We'll see if Chicago retains him in the off-season, if not, I can see Johnson being the big fish the team goes after.


Edit:
Seems like they went after JJ.

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