Group Plans Protest Of Roethlisberger Before Steelers Game

[Stlrs4Life]

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PITTSBURGH -- One group told Channel 4 Action News that it's planning to protest quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.Sarah Ainirial told Action News reporter Marcie Cipriani that she and her group are planning a tailgate protest outside Heinz Field before the Steelers game against the Cleveland Browns at 1 p.m.
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"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial.Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message."Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Roethlisberger was never charged in the case.Cipriani reported that Heinz Field officials said security will check fans and confiscate any vulgar or inappropriate material targeting Roethlisberger or any other player.Pittsburgh police said they are aware of the protest plans and said a decision will be made Friday on whether or not more officers will be needed, Cipriani reported.Police said the group does not have a permit to march.






I have nothing against them protesting, it is thier right. But why didn't they protest at the pre season games?

[Just George]

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PITTSBURGH -- One group told Channel 4 Action News that it's planning to protest quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.Sarah Ainirial told Action News reporter Marcie Cipriani that she and her group are planning a tailgate protest outside Heinz Field before the Steelers game against the Cleveland Browns at 1 p.m.
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"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial.Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message."Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Roethlisberger was never charged in the case.Cipriani reported that Heinz Field officials said security will check fans and confiscate any vulgar or inappropriate material targeting Roethlisberger or any other player.Pittsburgh police said they are aware of the protest plans and said a decision will be made Friday on whether or not more officers will be needed, Cipriani reported.Police said the group does not have a permit to march.






I have nothing against them protesting, it is thier right. But why didn't they protest at the pre season games?

Really good point.

[BPS3akaWirels3]

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PITTSBURGH -- One group told Channel 4 Action News that it's planning to protest quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.Sarah Ainirial told Action News reporter Marcie Cipriani that she and her group are planning a tailgate protest outside Heinz Field before the Steelers game against the Cleveland Browns at 1 p.m.
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"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial.Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message."Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Roethlisberger was never charged in the case.Cipriani reported that Heinz Field officials said security will check fans and confiscate any vulgar or inappropriate material targeting Roethlisberger or any other player.Pittsburgh police said they are aware of the protest plans and said a decision will be made Friday on whether or not more officers will be needed, Cipriani reported.Police said the group does not have a permit to march.






I have nothing against them protesting, it is thier right. But why didn't they protest at the pre season games?

Enough said...

[Devilsdancefloor]

just wondering how many of those people are gonna be from the burgh. But they have the right to do it, but i am sure they are gonna catch a lot of "protesting" back at them i hope they understand those people upset at them.

[steeldevil]

I understand that some people feel this way and I am glad that they are not afraid to express their feelings. But I do agree that it is strange that they did not do this at preseason games Ben played in...

[GodfatherofSoul]

I blame this crap on the media and Roger Goodell. The media took the "rape" storyline and ran with it. Goodell could have taken a position of principle and stood up for his player, but he decided to take the sack-licking PR hack position and roll with "public perception" wherever it took him. You look at Goodell's statements and they're vague as hell. He never says exactly *what* Ben was suspended for which reinforced in the mind of the casually curious public that Ben *must* have done something wrong. Goodell gets to look like Mr. Tough gun and avoid the heat from the public while never accusing Ben of a crime. Classic spineless two-faced political decision.

[stlrtruck]

They have the right to protest, but I'm wondering if any of these women ever made a mistake and paid the price only to have someone throw in their face after the fact? I mean it was an accusation and I'm not saying it's okay with his actions, but at the same point - the man is innocent before guilty (at least supposedly).

[steeldevil]

Hmmm..... So will these people cheer if Ben throws a TD pass to win the game Sunday?? Or bitch about it??





(Please don't let a late TD be necessary to win this game....)

[X-Terminator]

Yeah, OK...and if Ben helps lead them to another championship, the majority if not all of them will be right down there at the parade taking pictures or hoping to shake his hand.

Empty protest, especially in light of them not protesting at the preseason games, which leads me to believe this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. Plus, I bet you if you look into their pasts, they all have skeletons in their closets that would make people's heads spin.

At some point, people are going to have to move past this. I'm not saying forget or forgive it, but move on. He paid the price, we all hope he's learned his lesson, and that should be the end of it.

[Merchant]

Dude.. Seriously? Come on now

[BlastFurnace]

Pathetic. That Georgia student isn't as innocent as everyone wants to make her out to be. Let them protest. Hopefully, Art II won't try to accomodate them too and work on another suspension for Ben to make them happy.

[steelerdude15]

The media did make it ten times worst.... which is was it does for everything. All I have to say about this group protesting.... go blow yourselves.

[steeldawg]

I dont see what their point is? Better yet why didnt they protest at the nfl headquarters when they found out what bens suspension was, I mean we knew what his suspension has been for months and now your outraged. And I dont know what NFL offseason they were watching but i saw alot of players arrested charged and yet recieved no penalty from the NFL or there organization. THis is just some group of idiots looking for attention.

[Edman]

It's their right, but the question is why not protest during the preseason when Ben was allowed to play.

Just some people looking for attention.

[zulater]

I hope the fans verbally abuse the shit out of the bitches as they walk by. Sorry i know that's not the politically correct thing to say, but I think these are a bunch of grandstanding self righteous, pious, dried up old bitties that haven't got a clue as to what was actually in evidence in Ben's case and don't really care.

[steeldawg]

It's their right, but the question is why not protest during the preseason when Ben was allowed to play.

Just some people looking for attention.

Ya well its also bens right as a man charged with no crime to go to work.

[O'Malley]

This is what our society has become. TMZ, tabliod crazed, PC, everybody has feelings and they matter, pussies. In her statement she lists all these other things such as DUI's and drug cases. But accusations? WTF people. Remember to spay and nutter morans because they make more morans!

[The Duke]

There'll be more than enough steelers fans there (drunk or not :chuckle:) to draw them out

they have their right, but it's pretty pointless


But why didn't they protest at the pre season games?

attention whores most likely

[Wallace108]

Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message.
Although it appears the suspension has done Ben some good, I think a four-game suspension based on accusations is MORE than fair. If anything, it's unfair.


Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights.
When a player gets suspended because Goodell thinks he MAY be taking drugs, or MAY have been drinking and driving, with no actual evidence, then I'll agree with her.


So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension?
I suggested public hanging but couldn't get much support. :noidea:

I'll also be having a protest Sunday. I'll be wearing my Ben jersey in protest of mediocre quarterback play in the first four games.

[fansince'76]

"....Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Or maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with the fact that he was never even so much as CHARGED, never mind arrested or convicted of a crime?:coffee:

[Galax Steeler]

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PITTSBURGH -- One group told Channel 4 Action News that it's planning to protest quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.Sarah Ainirial told Action News reporter Marcie Cipriani that she and her group are planning a tailgate protest outside Heinz Field before the Steelers game against the Cleveland Browns at 1 p.m.
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"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial.Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message."Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Roethlisberger was never charged in the case.Cipriani reported that Heinz Field officials said security will check fans and confiscate any vulgar or inappropriate material targeting Roethlisberger or any other player.Pittsburgh police said they are aware of the protest plans and said a decision will be made Friday on whether or not more officers will be needed, Cipriani reported.Police said the group does not have a permit to march.






I have nothing against them protesting, it is thier right. But why didn't they protest at the pre season games?

:jerkit:People need to get over this and get on with the future.

[Butch]

Damn late to the party and everyone has stated everything that I would say.

I truely wonder how many if any are even football fans???

[Wallace108]

I truely wonder how many if any are even football fans???

Good point. And I wonder how many will actually be there? I'll put the over/under at 10.

[Galax Steeler]

Good point. And I wonder how many will actually be there? I'll put the over/under at 10.

I am sure they will get heckled from other people.LOL

[TheRuneMeister]

There are 53 men on that roster. Why drag them all into this by protesting him at the game? If they want to protest Ben, stage a protest at his house, don't drag that in to the other 52 mens place of work. That is not ok. I am not showing up to at the counter at McDonalds to protest them if they screwed up. Thats just not how things should be done.

Personally, I still feel that the suspension was based on a flawed premise, and that he was made an example of. However it might have done him some good in the long run, so I think everyone wins...except for the protesting fools that will probably get a few 'brats' thrown at them at the tailgate.

[Texasteel]

I hope the fans verbally abuse the shit out of the bitches as they walk by. Sorry i know that's not the politically correct thing to say, but I think these are a bunch of grandstanding self righteous, pious, dried up old bitties that haven't got a clue as to what was actually in evidence in Ben's case and don't really care.

Totally agree Zu. I still think if there had been any way at all, that DA down south would have been all over this case. These people need to look up the words accused and alleged.

[HometownGal]

As XT said, this is nothing more than a publicity stunt to get their puss faces on the news and call attention to themselves. The media will just love this as they refuse to let the Ben saga go and this just re-ignites their flame. :upyours: them. If I wasn't going to be occupied on Sunday before the game, I'd be down at HF shoveling their shit right back at 'em.

[CPanther95]

I hope they all get drunk tailgating and wake up with Big Ben tramp stamp tattoos.

[zulater]

I hope they all get drunk tailgating and wake up with Big Ben tramp stamp tattoos.

:sofunny: :lol:

[zulater]

As XT said, this is nothing more than a publicity stunt to get their puss faces on the news and call attention to themselves. The media will just love this as they refuse to let the Ben saga go and this just re-ignites their flame. :upyours: them. If I wasn't going to be occupied on Sunday before the game, I'd be down at HF shoveling their shit right back at 'em.

Aw damn, I wish you could be there, I'd pay money to see you have a go at those hags. :buttkick: :lol:

[CPanther95]

Wonder if they'll have big picket signs saying:

"DTF Means NO!"

[vader29]

They should all be put on a bus with a one way ticket to Cleveland.

[Bluecoat96]

I hope the fans verbally abuse the shit out of the bitches as they walk by. Sorry i know that's not the politically correct thing to say, but I think these are a bunch of grandstanding self righteous, pious, dried up old bitties that haven't got a clue as to what was actually in evidence in Ben's case and don't really care.


I would like to add to this that Daddy probably didn't love them enough and that instead of dealing with their issues in a normal manner, they've decided that all men are evil. Maybe they're feminist lesbian tree-huggers as well.

That was not nice of me to say. I'm sorry.:sarcasm2:

[SteelMember]

Combine this...


Police said the group does not have a permit to march.


With this...


I hope the fans verbally abuse the shit out of the bitches as they walk by. Sorry i know that's not the politically correct thing to say, but I think these are a bunch of grandstanding self righteous, pious, dried up old bitties that haven't got a clue as to what was actually in evidence in Ben's case and don't really care.

and I'm sure there'll be more than a few folks going to the clink.

I hope the extra police presence means more paddy wagons. Thay may need the extra space.

[cakmakli]

"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial. Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message. "Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension?

"Allegation" & "Accused" - Get over it bitch.

[cakmakli]

Wait, did I just read that they have no permit to protest???

Maybe Ravenstahl can take a lesson or two from Mayor Daley on how to handle a protest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5wvCnkOnnA

[Vis]

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PITTSBURGH -- One group told Channel 4 Action News that it's planning to protest quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.Sarah Ainirial told Action News reporter Marcie Cipriani that she and her group are planning a tailgate protest outside Heinz Field before the Steelers game against the Cleveland Browns at 1 p.m.
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"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial.Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message."Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Roethlisberger was never charged in the case.Cipriani reported that Heinz Field officials said security will check fans and confiscate any vulgar or inappropriate material targeting Roethlisberger or any other player.Pittsburgh police said they are aware of the protest plans and said a decision will be made Friday on whether or not more officers will be needed, Cipriani reported.Police said the group does not have a permit to march.






I have nothing against them protesting, it is thier right. But why didn't they protest at the pre season games?

Because protests are about drawing attention to an issue and you draw attention better if people care about the game. It's why all the million man marches are to DC and not to Fargo

[Vis]

It's their right, but the question is why not protest during the preseason when Ben was allowed to play.

Just some people looking for attention.

Every protest is about attention. What else?

[Vis]

I hope the fans verbally abuse the shit out of the bitches as they walk by. Sorry i know that's not the politically correct thing to say, but I think these are a bunch of grandstanding self righteous, pious, dried up old bitties that haven't got a clue as to what was actually in evidence in Ben's case and don't really care.

That will look good for the city and the fans on TV. Classy

[Texasteel]

I can't help but wonder, is this in deed their right? When Ben was not convicted or even charged with the crime. Might this be considered harassment, or even stalking?

[Vis]

I can't help but wonder, is this in deed their right? When Ben was not convicted or even charged with the crime. Might this be considered harassment, or even stalking?

Will they be near him or outside the stadium with thousands of other people?

[Texasteel]

Will they be near him or outside the stadium with thousands of other people?

Outside with thousands of people saying something that they or no one else has proof of. Would that not be considered harassment. They will be at the place of his employment. Don't know where the law stand, but to me that seems like harassment.

Then again I guess its not uncommon for a fan to harass a player.

[Vis]

Outside with thousands of people saying something that they or no one else has proof of. Would that not be considered harassment. They will be at the place of his employment. Don't know where the law stand, but to me that seems like harassment.

Then again I guess its not uncommon for a fan to harass a player.

No, it will be fine. Nothing anywhere says the contents of protected speech has to be accurate. Look at any protest. Here's the thing - if everyone walks by these people like they aren't there or offers them a burger like they're tailgaiters it will go away. If fans create a scene, it will get covered and look bad.

[Wallace108]

Outside with thousands of people saying something that they or no one else has proof of. Would that not be considered harassment.

He's a public figure. As long as they don't make threats, they can say pretty much whatever they want. :noidea:

[GitNoLuv]

So they are protesting...because he was accused (though not charged) of sexual assault...got punished for being innocent...and is now coming back?

[vasteeler]

makes sense to me:rolleyes3:
no wonder your the " official steeluniverse guru and brain trust committee chairman"

[Texasteel]

He's a public figure. As long as they don't make threats, they can say pretty much whatever they want. :noidea:


Yea, I thought about that Wally. Rules are a little different for a pubic figure.

Anyway I think he will be fine, they will have their day in the sun, and we all will be celebrating a Steeler win after the game.

[Vis]

So they are protesting...because he was accused (though not charged) of sexual assault...got punished for being innocent...and is now coming back?

We don't need this debate coming back up but you don't know he's innocent any more than that group knows he's guilty.

[GodfatherofSoul]

We don't need this debate coming back up but you don't know he's innocent any more than that group knows he's guilty.

By your logic, my conspiracy theory that Ben is an alien clone spy from the planet Splugorth has just as much credibility. No one can disprove it, can they?

[Vis]

By your logic, my conspiracy theory that Ben is an alien clone spy from the planet Splugorth has just as much credibility. No one can disprove it, can they?

No, nothing you say has any credibility.

[BeerMan]

We don't need this debate coming back up but you don't know he's innocent any more than that group knows he's guilty.

Yes, we pretty much do know that no DNA = no sex, which means he's innocent. But you keep on believing whatever it is that helps you sleep at night.

[memphissteelergirl]

Yeah, OK...and if Ben helps lead them to another championship, the majority if not all of them will be right down there at the parade taking pictures or hoping to shake his hand.

Empty protest, especially in light of them not protesting at the preseason games, which leads me to believe this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. Plus, I bet you if you look into their pasts, they all have skeletons in their closets that would make people's heads spin.

At some point, people are going to have to move past this. I'm not saying forget or forgive it, but move on. He paid the price, we all hope he's learned his lesson, and that should be the end of it.

Pretty much sums it up for me. :thumbsup:


As XT said, this is nothing more than a publicity stunt to get their puss faces :lol: on the news and call attention to themselves. The media will just love this as they refuse to let the Ben saga go and this just re-ignites their flame. :upyours: them. If I wasn't going to be occupied on Sunday before the game, I'd be down at HF shoveling their shit right back at 'em.

I would LOVE to see that!! :toofunny: In fact, I'd love be right along there with you. I have a sincere dislike for feminist prigs like these. :chuckle:

[Wallace108]

We don't need this debate coming back up but you don't know he's innocent any more than that group knows he's guilty.

Under our law, if you're not charged and convicted of a crime, then you're innocent. Don't like it, move to Iran. :noidea:

[steeldawg]

We don't need this debate coming back up but you don't know he's innocent any more than that group knows he's guilty.
What debate? in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, so if your not proven guilty , you are innocent.

[Vis]

Under our law, if you're not charged and convicted of a crime, then you're innocent. Don't like it, move to Iran. :noidea:


Somebody really did commit every unsolved crime. Somebody out there, without being charged and convicted, is guilty. Don't like it, move to dream world.

[steeldawg]

Somebody really did commit every unsolved crime. Somebody out there, without being charged and convicted, is guilty. Don't like it, move to dream world.

Well the problem is the DA and team of investigators could find no crime.

[vasteeler]

Under our law, if you're not charged and convicted of a crime, then you're innocent. Don't like it, move to Iran. :noidea:

so does that mean O J is innocent.........:lol:

[Vis]

What debate? in this country you are innocent until proven guilty, so if your not proven guilty , you are innocent.

That applies only to the state depriving you of life, liberty, or property as punishment. That doesn't mean you actually didn't do something. Is this now a HS civics class?

[Vis]

Well the problem is the DA and team of investigators could find no crime.

They said they didn't think they would win. That's all.

[steeldawg]

That applies only to the state depriving you of life, liberty, or property as punishment. That doesn't mean you actually didn't do something. Is this now a HS civics class?

Lets go to class. If there is no crime you can not be guilty the Da was not trying to prove guilt or innocence he was there to find out if a crime was committed. That how the process works! they dont just get an allegation and go straight to court and then convict someone based on the allegations.

[steeldawg]

They said they didn't think they would win. That's all.

Wrong what the DA actually said was we dont prosecutes morals we prosecute crimes.

[Vis]

Lets go to class. If there is no crime you can not be guilty the Da was not trying to prove guilt or innocence he was there to find out if a crime was committed. That how the process works! they dont just get an allegation and go straight to court and then convict someone based on the allegations.

There was a crime reported. Testimony is evidence. There was DNA but not enough to make any match (I bet that means the lab screwed up the sample) What a DA has to do is decide if the evidence is enough to bring charges. If it was Joe blow I bet they would have been brought. Because this DA knew he would face a legal dream team why would he bring it if it wasn't a slam dunk? Would you? Look at OJ.

[Vis]

The allegations "cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt," Bright said during an afternoon press conference. "Therefore there will be no arrest made nor criminal prosecution against Mr. Roethelisberger." Bright said "significant questions ... persist" about what happened between Roethlisberger and the alleged victim

....

"I can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt," Bright said. "If I did, I would do so."

Bright conceded that "something may have happened," but he kept reiterating he didn't have enough evidence.

[SteelMember]

I think Ben should buy shots for them all. Oh wait. Ben doesn't pay tabs.

[Vis]

Let me use the false logic of the standard of innocence too. There is no proof the woman lied about what happened. If there was she would have been charged with making a false report. Therefore she is innocent of lying. Therefore her statement was true. See, it works both ways.

Only 2 people know what happened and neither has posted in this thread. If you act like you know for sure you're deluding yourself.

[steeldawg]

There was a crime reported. Testimony is evidence. There was DNA but not enough to make any match (I bet that means the lab screwed up the sample) What a DA has to do is decide if the evidence is enough to bring charges. If it was Joe blow I bet they would have been brought. Because this DA knew he would face a legal dream team why would he bring it if it wasn't a slam dunk? Would you? Look at OJ.
That is exactly what i just said, Da was determining if a crime was commited not reported. And its not of a debate of what you believe or what you bet happened its a debate on what was actual fact.

[Vis]

That is exactly what i just said, Da was determining if a crime was commited not reported. And its not of a debate of what you believe or what you bet happened its a debate on what was actual fact.

And you don't know the actual facts unless you were in the toilet

[SteelMember]

There was one witness...
http://averagebob.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/mr_hankey_the_christmas_poo_by_staceyw11.jpg

...but they didn't believe in him, so his statement was withdrawn.

[steeldawg]

Let me use the false logic of the standard of innocence too. There is no proof the woman lied about what happened. If there was she would have been charged with making a false report. Therefore she is innocent of lying. Therefore her statement was true. See, it works both ways.

Only 2 people know what happened and neither has posted in this thread. If you act like you know for sure you're deluding yourself.
There is no innocence or guilt they could noot prove a crime took place.

[Vis]

There is no innocence or guilt they could noot prove a crime took place.

Once again, that doesn't mean one didn't. Doesn't mean it did. We will never know. YOU DON"T KNOW

[Vis]

There was one witness...
http://averagebob.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/mr_hankey_the_christmas_poo_by_staceyw11.jpg

...but they didn't believe in him, so his statement was withdrawn.

Shitty witness

[steeldawg]

In an unsolved murder you know a crime took place you just dont know who did it. In this case its he said she said so they rely on evidence to determine wether there was crime.

[steeldawg]

Once again, that doesn't mean one didn't. Doesn't mean it did. We will never know. YOU DON"T KNOW

Well thats a copout you could say that about anything. I could say your a rapist doesnt mean you did or doesnt mean you didnt we will never know.

[Vis]

In an unsolved murder you know a crime took place you just dont know who did it. In this case its he said she said so they rely on evidence to determine wether there was crime.

But unless they have Wonder Woman's lasso, they don't know the truth, they can only weigh what evidence they collect and decide it they THINK it's enough to go forward. Sometimes they go forward and lose. Sometimes they don't goforward and someone gets away with it. This isn't that hard of a concept. Sorry the world isn't black and white. Try not to lose sleep with that realization if it comes.

[Vis]

Well thats a copout you could say that about anything. I could say your a rapist doesnt mean you did or doesnt mean you didnt we will never know.

true. You too. I will never state emphatically that you are or are not a rapist.

[steeldawg]

That is the whole point on why a protest of roethlisberger is ridiculous and to say that he should not be able to return to work is crazy.

[SteelMember]

That is the whole point on why a protest of roethlisberger is ridiculous and to say that he should not be able to return to work is crazy.

The fact that they don't even have a permit at this point tells me this whole thing, if it happens, will just be a war of words (including a plethora of vulgarities) between them and energized Steelers fans. Even if it had any heartfelt meaning to begin with, I don't think it can end well. And that's what I think they are counting on. That, and the cameras to document it.

As fans, we get what they give us. If you don't like it, don't be a fan. :noidea:

[Wallace108]

Somebody really did commit every unsolved crime. Somebody out there, without being charged and convicted, is guilty. Don't like it, move to dream world.
I agree. But as steeldawg pointed out, there wasn't enough evidence to determine if a crime had even taken place. You can't charge someone with a crime if there wasn't a crime. :doh2:
And PM me those directions to dream world ... I'll start packing. :chuckle:


Let me use the false logic of the standard of innocence too. There is no proof the woman lied about what happened. If there was she would have been charged with making a false report.
Yeah, but there's no one protesting at her workplace. :noidea:


Only 2 people know what happened and neither has posted in this thread. If you act like you know for sure you're deluding yourself.
Then why are you presuming that Ben is guilty, and not the woman? :huh:

[fansince'76]

http://blog.choketown.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/deadhorse.jpg

[CPanther95]

Let me use the false logic of the standard of innocence too. There is no proof the woman lied about what happened. If there was she would have been charged with making a false report. Therefore she is innocent of lying. Therefore her statement was true. See, it works both ways.

Only 2 people know what happened and neither has posted in this thread. If you act like you know for sure you're deluding yourself.

Your missing one key fact. Even if what the girl said was true, there was no rape. That's why they never needed to talk to Ben. If it was a "he said, she said" case, they'd have needed to hear Ben's side. But since she said that she never said "No" and she never said "stop", there was no point in pursuing it any further. It wasn't just a lack of evidence, or the inability to convict - it was the fact that no crime was even suggested by the "victim".

Even with your warped logic, I hope that you would presume innocence when guilt hasn't even been suggested.

[oneforthetoe]

Favre.

[memphissteelergirl]

http://blog.choketown.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/deadhorse.jpg


Thank you!! People this has been debated enough! Can we please JUST MOVE ON!?

[HometownGal]

Holy Mother of God - will the . . .

"Ben raped that poor innocent girl"

"No he didn't - it was consensual"

"Yes he did, the filthy perverted pig"

"No he didn't you self-righteous jackass"

ever end???? :doh: :doh: :doh:

Look folks - this thread is back to the SOS that has been beaten to death and back in numerous other threads.

The topic here involves a group of self-righteous attention ho'ing bitches who weren't there, didn't see the "evidence" and are passing judgment on a guy who was never charged with a crime or convicted in a court of law. Their plan is to protest Ben's return to the team (after he served the punishment handed down by the Crummish) and we all know that they are going to wish they had stayed home and kept their big yaps shut after they are ridiculed and heckled to East Bumfuck and back by loyal Ben and Steelers fans who simply want to move forward. Personally, me thinks they want some of Ben's snausage and are pissed off because he'd rather screw a telephone pole than any of them. :heh:

Let's keep the thread on topic and not go back to debating Ben's innocence or guilt. pretty please with a cherry on top? :pray:

[salamander]

Crazy protesters looking for attention... meet hyped up die-hard Steelers fans.

I don't see this ending well, but that's just me.

[BPS3akaWirels3]

Holy Mother of God - will the . . .

"Ben raped that poor innocent girl"

"No he didn't - it was consensual"

"Yes he did, the filthy perverted pig"

"No he didn't you self-righteous jackass"

ever end???? :doh: :doh: :doh:

Look folks - this thread is back to the SOS that has been beaten to death and back in numerous other threads.

The topic here involves a group of self-righteous attention ho'ing bitches who weren't there, didn't see the "evidence" and are passing judgment on a guy who was never charged with a crime or convicted in a court of law. Their plan is to protest Ben's return to the team (after he served the punishment handed down by the Crummish) and we all know that they are going to wish they had stayed home and kept their big yaps shut after they are ridiculed and heckled to East Bumfuck and back by loyal Ben and Steelers fans who simply want to move forward. Personally, me thinks they want some of Ben's snausage and are pissed off because he'd rather screw a telephone pole than any of them. :heh:

Let's keep the thread on topic and not go back to debating Ben's innocence or guilt. pretty please with a cherry on top? :pray:

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[SteelMember]

Personally, me thinks they want some of Ben's snausage and are pissed off because he'd rather screw a telephone pole than any of them. :heh:

That's because they don't have big boobs.



Let's keep the thread on topic and not go back to debating Ben's innocence or guilt. pretty please with a cherry on top? :pray:

That's what I was saying...

Thank you for your support.

http://www.outlandishjosh.com/files/Bartles%20and%20James%20Parrot.jpg

:chuckle:

[zulater]

That will look good for the city and the fans on TV. Classy

First off i said I hope they get verbally abused. Nothing more. And if they do that's the price you knowingly pay unless you're an imbecle, or such a pc obsessed douche that it never occured to you that you might get your own shit thrown back in your face. I have no sympathy for them and I hope like hell they come out looking like the stupid bitch's that they are.

And as long as no one crosses the line, and just keeps the taunts verbal Pittsbugh looks none the worse except in the eyes of pc a-holes. And who gives a rats ass about them anyway?

[zulater]

Your missing one key fact. Even if what the girl said was true, there was no rape. That's why they never needed to talk to Ben. If it was a "he said, she said" case, they'd have needed to hear Ben's side. But since she said that she never said "No" and she never said "stop", there was no point in pursuing it any further. It wasn't just a lack of evidence, or the inability to convict - it was the fact that no crime was even suggested by the "victim".

Even with your warped logic, I hope that you would presume innocence when guilt hasn't even been suggested.

Great post, so few people that comment or pass judgement on Ben bothered to watch the witness statement by the "accuser" in it's entirety.

[XxKnightxX]

Yawn... non news what a bunch of attention getters.

[zulater]

There was a crime reported. Testimony is evidence. There was DNA but not enough to make any match (I bet that means the lab screwed up the sample) What a DA has to do is decide if the evidence is enough to bring charges. If it was Joe blow I bet they would have been brought. Because this DA knew he would face a legal dream team why would he bring it if it wasn't a slam dunk? Would you? Look at OJ.

I'll bet it means it was a different man's DNA. She had a boyfriend , you probably didn't know that, along with about 100 other things you apparently don't know about the case? Ever occur to you that the claim of rape could have been damage control to preserve her relationship?

[GodfatherofSoul]

Let me use the false logic of the standard of innocence too. There is no proof the woman lied about what happened.

Yes there is. The victim herself said she didn't think she'd been raped, until Ben blew his load then blew them off. That's when her friends convinced her she *must* have been raped if they couldn't get in to see their sister taking one for the team.

[Wallace108]

Let's keep the thread on topic and not go back to debating Ben's innocence or guilt. pretty please with a cherry on top? :pray:

How is debating what happened in Georgia off-topic in a thread about women protesting because of what happened in Georgia? :huh:

No need to answer. :hand:
*Back to the basement.* :chuckle:

[siss]

I hope these women get arrested. Then they will be charged with a crime...something Ben HASN'T done!

[BuddhaBus]

"So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK."


I accuse Sarah Ainirial of groping my junk-bag inappropriately in the men's room of a Sizzler steak house on June 4th of this year at approximately 10:30 pm. I feel the authorities should arrest and beat her senseless (Oops! Nevermind... somebody has apparently already taken care of that second part!) and that she should be banned from protesting forever. :drama:

Sound OK, Sarah? Fucking numbskull! I hope she's, like, 7 years old or something. At least that would explain why she didn't realize how utterly and dumbfoundingly stupid this statement was. :doh2:


Edit: Whooo hooo! 2,000! :party:

[GitNoLuv]

We don't need this debate coming back up but you don't know he's innocent any more than that group knows he's guilty.

Alright, so Ben is being punished for a crime he was never proven guilty of... Ben is being punished for a crime he was never charged with. If there was no crime and no proven guilt, why is he being punished? Why are the protesters saying he shouldn't come back to work? What crime did he actually commit that would prevent him from coming back to work (or that kept him away from work?) The only report made was one that was changed...by the "victim." First it wasn't rape...then it was. Why was there no civil case?

The lunacy of this is astounding to me. The protesters should be at every Ravens game protesting a real criminal (Ray Lewis), not Ben. The protesters should be at every Eagles game protesting a real criminal (Michael Vick), no Ben.

An accuasation alone should not be enough to punish anyone...and that was my point. That's all it ended up being that got him suspended for 4 games. An accusation. Whether you "believe" he is innocent or not is absolutely irrelevant. The fact remains that he was neither charged nor convicted of any crime...and therefor should not be punished. So the protest is moronic.

[BuddhaBus]

Alright, so Ben is being punished for a crime he was never proven guilty of... Ben is being punished for a crime he was never charged with. If there was no crime and no proven guilt, why is he being punished? Why are the protesters saying he shouldn't come back to work? What crime did he actually commit that would prevent him from coming back to work (or that kept him away from work?) The only report made was one that was changed...by the "victim." First it wasn't rape...then it was. Why was there no civil case?

The lunacy of this is astounding to me. The protesters should be at every Ravens game protesting a real criminal (Ray Lewis), not Ben. The protesters should be at every Eagles game protesting a real criminal (Michael Vick), no Ben.

An accuasation alone should not be enough to punish anyone...and that was my point. That's all it ended up being that got him suspended for 4 games. An accusation. Whether you "believe" he is innocent or not is absolutely irrelevant. The fact remains that he was neither charged nor convicted of any crime...and therefor should not be punished. So the protest is moronic.


THE VOICE OF SANITY! :clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

[GitNoLuv]

THE VOICE OF SANITY! :clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

But of course, I'm a Browns fan!

[Wallace108]

But of course, I'm a Browns fan!

I assure you, we don't hold that against you ... much. :chuckle:

[CPanther95]

If I accuse Sarah Ainirial of deviant sexual behavior, will she "only get suspended"? What if I accuse her of plotting to blow up Heinz field with a WMD when it is at capacity? Does that accusation warrant the death penalty, or does the punishment based only on an accusation stop short of capital punishment?

She'd probably blow a gasket if she realized that Ben got no suspension at all for the assault accusation - it was only for the behavior exhibited in a public place that was detrimental to the image of the league. In fact, if the girl was in the NFL, she'd have got suspended as well.

[BuddhaBus]

But of course, I'm a Browns fan!

A proverb says differently. You know... the one that says, " The definition of insanity is changing QBs over and over again and expecting different results." :boink: :lol:

[HometownGal]

How is debating what happened in Georgia off-topic in a thread about women protesting because of what happened in Georgia? :huh:

No need to answer. :hand:
*Back to the basement.* :chuckle:

They are not protesting what happened in Georgia - they are protesting Ben being back in a Steelers uniform and behind center on Sunday - AFTER he served his punishment and did what was required of him. To boot, the "what happened in Georgia" drama has been debated, re-debated, debated some more and beaten to beyond eternity on this board. It's done and over with - Ben served his "time" and life for him and we as fans goes on. If people keep on belaboring this now dead issue, the media walks around with woodies because they love kicking people when they're down and the drama will never end.

Basement? Au contrare my sweet Wally. Back to the outhouse for you young man. ;) :heh: :hug:



http://www.sharynhowardmysteries.com/images/outhouse.jpg

[BuddhaBus]

Back to the outhouse for you young man. ;) :heh: :hug:



http://www.sharynhowardmysteries.com/images/outhouse.jpg

Outhouse? What the Hell is that thing for? :huh: :wink02:

[Wallace108]

Basement? Au contrare my sweet Wally. Back to the outhouse for you young man. ;) :heh: :hug:

Trading the basement for the outhouse? Either way it smells like piss. :chuckle:
Inside joke ... trust me, it's funny. :sofunny:

[GitNoLuv]

A proverb says differently. You know... the one that says, " The definition of insanity is changing QBs over and over again and expecting different results." :boink: :lol:

I root for the team, not run it. Big difference! :P

[Count Steeler]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...18/detail.html (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/25394718/detail.html)


PITTSBURGH -- One group told Channel 4 Action News that it's planning to protest quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's return to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.Sarah Ainirial told Action News reporter Marcie Cipriani that she and her group are planning a tailgate protest outside Heinz Field before the Steelers game against the Cleveland Browns at 1 p.m.
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http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/2010/1004/25275853_240X180.jpg (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/image/25275853/detail.html)Ben Roethlisberger

"We're just a group of Pittsburghers who aren't OK with what happened and aren't OK with Big Ben being brought back to the field," said Ainirial.Ainirial said Roethlisberger's four-game suspension after a sexual assault allegation by a 20-year-old Georgia college student was too lenient and sends the wrong message."Players are supposed to conduct themselves in a certain manor. Players have been traded and cut from teams for things such as DUIs, drug use, bar fights. So why is it when someone is accused of assault they're just given a suspension? That's not OK. That's not adequate and we feel as though a lot of it is because of what a valuable player Ben Roethlisberger is," said Ainirial.Roethlisberger was never charged in the case.Cipriani reported that Heinz Field officials said security will check fans and confiscate any vulgar or inappropriate material targeting Roethlisberger or any other player.Pittsburgh police said they are aware of the protest plans and said a decision will be made Friday on whether or not more officers will be needed, Cipriani reported.Police said the group does not have a permit to march.





Perhaps Ben has impressed the powers that be with his change in attitude, his contriteness and his willingness to take heed of Godell. In the grand scheme of things, Roger Godell deems who can play in the NFL. If Ben has impressed him with his willingness to change then that is good enough for me. If they have a problem with anyone, it is Godell.

[Craic]

Perhaps Ben has impressed the powers that be with his change in attitude, his contriteness and his willingness to take heed of Godell. In the grand scheme of things, Roger Godell deems who can play in the NFL. If Ben has impressed him with his willingness to change then that is good enough for me. If they have a problem with anyone, it is Godell.

Thank you for that spot of common sense in this sea of futility.

1. Every person here has the right to believe what they want about Ben.

2. These women protesting have a right to believe what they want about Ben coming back.

3. These women ALSO have the right to protest.

4. The crowd at HF has a right to express their um.. sentiments(?) about the speech that these women are expressing by their right.

5. Its time to let it all go. Ben put himself in a situation where this could have been the consequence. It is. He has accepted responsibility for it. Did what was asked of him, and is moving on. Maybe we should to... and ACCEPT that this is simply part of the consequences of bad decisions that can put a person in a place that LOOKS bad, if not actually bad.

BTW, you protest now, because it is the way to get your message out the best. Its called marketing. Nothing wrong with being smart on when to produce your biggest marketing blitz to get your voice heard by the most people. If we don't like what they are saying... Just ignore them.

[Galax Steeler]

Hopefully a meteorite will fall where they are protesting serves them right.

[HometownGal]

If we don't like what they are saying... Just ignore them.

I'd rather punch them all in the head, but that's just me. :noidea: :heh: I'll bet my life every one of them has a skeleton or two or three in their closets.

[HometownGal]

Outhouse? What the Hell is that thing for? :huh: :wink02:

If the carving on the outhouse door is any indication . . . . mooning. ;)

[SteelGhost]

Maybe these people are just a bunch of Batch's fans :chuckle:

[Wallace108]

If the carving on the outhouse door is any indication . . . . mooning. ;)

:rofl:
I thought that was the peephole. :huh:

I'd get back on topic, but I have nothing else to say about it. The women are going to protest. No one's going to care. I'm more concerned about what happens INSIDE of the stadium than OUTSIDE of it.

[CPanther95]

I'll bet my life every one of them has a skeleton or two or three in their closets.

... along with a sh*tload of flannel shirts and Birkenstocks.

[stillers4me]

... along with a sh*tload of flannel shirts and Birkenstocks.

:lol:

[stillers4me]

An observation....in monitoring the Facebook page for SU, (which BTW, topped over 600 followers today....yea!), women overwhelming are in support of Ben.


I expect there to be one or two cat fights outside the stadium Sunday. :lol:

[HometownGal]

... along with a sh*tload of flannel shirts and Birkenstocks.

:lol: :thumbsup:

And beards that most men would die for. :heh:

[Wallace108]

I expect there to be one or two cat fights outside the stadium Sunday. :lol:

That's hot. I now find myself supporting this protest. :thumbsup:

[Craic]

I'll bet my life every one of them has a skeleton or two or three in their closets.

Could be.

Could also be that their skeletons are rapes committed against them, and they just feel strongly about this issue. Often times, its the issues that we feel the strongest about that we don't stop the think through completely.

[Wallace108]

Could be.

Could also be that their skeletons are rapes committed against them, and they just feel strongly about this issue. Often times, its the issues that we feel the strongest about that we don't stop the think through completely.

Very good point, Preacher.

The problem in this situation is that Ben wasn't convicted of rape. There are a lot of people who are wrongly accused of crimes. Heck, there are people who have been on death row who have been released after new DNA evidence cleared them. If any of these protesters are a victim of any kind of abuse, then my heart goes out to them, but it doesn't improve their situation by targeting someone who might be completely innocent, and therefore a victim as well.

I support their cause, but not their target. They should go after someone who has actually been charged and convicted of rape. Then me and countless others would be standing right beside them.

[Craic]

Very good point, Preacher.

The problem in this situation is that Ben wasn't convicted of rape. There are a lot of people who are wrongly accused of crimes. Heck, there are people who have been on death row who have been released after new DNA evidence cleared them. If any of these protesters are a victim of any kind of abuse, then my heart goes out to them, but it doesn't improve their situation by targeting someone who might be completely innocent, and therefore a victim as well.

I support their cause, but not their target. They should go after someone who has actually been charged and convicted of rape. Then me and countless others would be standing right beside them.

Yep, and yet, they are probably just as convinced that he did rape her or at least molest her as many are that he did not. Heck, they may even see this as the protypical "They always get away with it" case and thus, is exactly why they are doing it. Again, I am not saying they are right or wrong. I am just merely arguing the other side.

Personally, I think the plan is quite counterproductive regardless of the reason.

[zulater]

Funny how these sort of protests never occur where former President Clinton shows up to speak. He was accused of unwanted sexual advances by more than one woman correct? Would it surprise anyone if a majority of Ben's protesters voted for slick Willie and would do so again if given the chance?

[steeldawg]

The whole basis for the protest is we dont know and cant prove anything happened but we want you to pay for it anyways.

[zulater]

Yep, and yet, they are probably just as convinced that he did rape her or at least molest her as many are that he did not. Heck, they may even see this as the protypical "They always get away with it" case and thus, is exactly why they are doing it. Again, I am not saying they are right or wrong. I am just merely arguing the other side.

Personally, I think the plan is quite counterproductive regardless of the reason.

Yeah well absent of evidence they have no right to belabor that point to those that don't share in their opinion. Or if they do and they get verbally trashed themselves by those that are ready to move on then they have nothing to complain about.

[zulater]

The whole basis for the protest is we dont know and cant prove anything happened but we want you to pay for it anyways.

Yep.

[BPS3akaWirels3]

This thread is so old... Let it dies please..

[cakmakli]

http://www.sharynhowardmysteries.com/images/outhouse.jpg

I've crapped in quite a few outhouses but I never seen one built off the ground.

Back to the subject: Stone the bitches.

[SteelMember]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201010/rad_101710_l_1_roethlisberg_500.jpg

real successful protest. :doh: I think we were right on in our predictions.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10291/1096072-66.stm

[BPS3akaWirels3]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201010/rad_101710_l_1_roethlisberg_500.jpg

real successful protest. :doh:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10291/1096072-66.stm


FAGS... Truly an embarrassment to the Nation...

[Steeldude]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201010/rad_101710_l_1_roethlisberg_500.jpg

real successful protest. :doh: I think we were right on in our predictions.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10291/1096072-66.stm

like the gold handkerchief/bandanna is really going to help hide the individual's identity on the far left

[CPanther95]

I would think that butt pirates would wear an eyepatch, not a bandanna.

[Wallace108]

The group is not ignoring the fact that he has not been charged, Ms. Ott said, but she said "it's just not the most important thing for us."

"We don't care whether he was charged or not," she said. "It's definitely important to get the word out there that he is a sexual predator because of his actions, and he violated consent."


Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10291/1096072-66.stm#ixzz12jXUocOe
:doh:

[XxKnightxX]

EPIC FAIL

[LLT]

....Most of the protesters wore black shirts or sweatshirts and bandanas over their noses and mouths, though there was one female protester dressed as a ninja turtle.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10291/1096072-66.stm#ixzz12jcj1cFB

Whew...there for a second I wasn't going to take them seriously.

[memphissteelergirl]

"We don't care whether he was charged or not,"

Um...excuse me? :wtf:

Soooo what this bubble-brain is saying that somebody's behavior (albeit boorish and stupid) can still get you labeled a sexual predator.

Yeah riiiiight. Got it....makes perfect sense. :der:

As the guy on the Miller High Life commercial says: "You are 5 yards short of common sense." :bs:

[LLT]

"We don't care whether he was charged or not,"

Um...excuse me? :wtf:

Soooo what this bubble-brain is saying that somebody's behavior (albeit boorish and stupid) can still get you labeled a sexual predator.

Yeah riiiiight. Got it....makes perfect sense. :der:

As the guy on the Miller High Life commercial says: "You are 5 yards short of common sense." :bs:

HEY!!! How dare you question the Vegan-eating Alternative Marching Band Ninja Turtle Bandit!!!!! She represents middle America!!
:salute: :usa2: :salute:

[7SteelGal43]

I would think that butt pirates would wear an eyepatch, not a bandanna.

Butt pirate CAPTAINS wear eyepatches. These are clearly cabin boys.

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs21/f/2007/304/d/b/Butt_Pirates_by_StarTyrian.jpg

[LLT]

Oops...my bad.

How dare you question the Vegan-eating Alternative Marching Band Ninja Turtle Butt-pirate Bandit!!!!!


....okay....thats better.

[siss]

This is dedicated to the protesters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwQPo8cUy0