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Edman
09-10-2023, 02:47 PM
Ever since last season its been proven that George Pickens is our playmaking receiver who makes things happen, and yet he is never featured as our #1 receiver or first read. Time to quit the theatrics. Diontae Johnson is not a #1 receiver and he never will be, and keeps proving it today.

Najee Harris is not a good RB. Like at all.

Calvin Austin is supposedly a burner, but he's running quick outs and we never took a shot downfield with him, or even run a jet sweep.

No creativity whatsoever in playcalling. Run. run. Pass. The middle of the field disappears again. Suddenly and mysteriously Kenny Pickett cannot quarterback anymore.

Kenny Pickett looks the exact same as 2021 Ben and Mitch Trubisky. Not confident. Skittish. Poor footwork. Not trusting his receivers. Checking down. Three seasons. Three quarterbacks. They all look terrible in the same offense.

The roster has moved and shifted constantly, and yet all the same problems remain. But what hasn't changed? The coaching staff.

DuckHodges
09-10-2023, 02:49 PM
najee's 22 yard run was the slowest 20 yard run i've ever seen. this guy is only hyped due to being picked in the first round and nothing more

DuckHodges
09-10-2023, 03:15 PM
My thoughts:

This is totally 100% on the coaching staff. I started getting worried with all the preseason hype going around, because Tomlin coached teams always had this in common: When the media starts singing their praises, they quickly lay an egg. Seriously, it's almost like these guys are always going to buy into their own hype, and think they're better than they really are. End result? You get an unprepared team that has the look of shock when the opponent comes in not intimidated by them.

I get that trap games happen to the best of them, but to come in unprepared in a HOME game vs a known contender, and put a shit effort like this? That's even more damning.

At least Gentry isn't on the team anymore or we would've saw the Gentry TE screen this game :chuckle: Canada can't help but try to outsmart himself... And speaking of Canada, doesn't it appear that his game plan never changes based on opponents he's playing? It's almost like you watch film of any Steelers game and you probably can figure out what they're going to try in any game.

Mach1
09-10-2023, 03:16 PM
My thoughts:

This is totally 100% on the coaching staff. I started getting worried with all the preseason hype going around, because Tomlin coached teams always had this in common: When the media starts singing their praises, they quickly lay an egg. Seriously, it's almost like these guys are always going to buy into their own hype, and think they're better than they really are. End result? You get an unprepared team that has the look of shock when the opponent comes in not intimidated by them.

I get that trap games happen to the best of them, but to come in unprepared in a HOME game vs a known contender, and put a shit effort like this? That's even more damning.

At least Gentry isn't on the team anymore or we would've saw the Gentry TE screen this game :chuckle: Canada can't help but try to outsmart himself... And speaking of Canada, doesn't it appear that his game plan never changes based on opponents he's playing? It's almost like you watch film of any Steelers game and you probably can figure out what they're going to try in any game.

It's been like that for several years.

that1guy
09-10-2023, 03:17 PM
This franchise is getting what it deserves good and hard. They chose to put Mike Tomlin on a pedestal and refused to critique the man. The Steelers appear to have regressed. The offensive line looks worse, the run game and WR Corp worse and Kenny really,really struggled. On the defensive side the D line couldn't stop a nosebleed and the secondary with the exception of Pat Pete look like a major downgrade. The man who is supposed to put it all together cannot and has shown that for the better part of a decade yet the Steelers brass not only refuse to replace him, they won't make moves to put good Coordinators at his side. Until Tomlin is gone the needle will continue to point south.

Rotorhead
09-10-2023, 03:19 PM
Well, I guess he is still Crapnada

86WARD
09-10-2023, 03:20 PM
It's been like that for several years.

And that one falls on Tomlin and his stubbornness to fix his mistakes.

86WARD
09-10-2023, 03:20 PM
This franchise is getting what it deserves good and hard. They chose to put Mike Tomlin on a pedestal and refused to critique the man. The Steelers appear to have regressed. The offensive line looks worse, the run game and WR Corp worse and Kenny really,really struggled. On the defensive side the D line couldn't stop a nosebleed and the secondary with the exception of Pat Pete look like a major downgrade. The man who is supposed to put it all together cannot and has shown that for the better part of a decade yet the Steelers brass not only refuse to replace him, they won't make moves to put good Coordinators at his side. Until Tomlin is gone the needle will continue to point south.

Pat Pete was average at best…

that1guy
09-10-2023, 03:35 PM
Pat Pete was average at best…

I remember a certain player who didn't attend day 2 of the draft because he was upset he didn't get picked in the 1st round, who was that guy?

86WARD
09-10-2023, 03:37 PM
I remember a certain player who didn't attend day 2 of the draft because he was upset he didn't get picked in the 1st round, who was that guy?

Not sure…don’t remember seeing him then or today…

Rotorhead
09-10-2023, 03:40 PM
Not sure…don’t remember seeing him then or today…

Maybe they could have put him on Aiyuk to see if we could have slowed him down?

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 03:42 PM
I can see some of what you guys are saying BUT....there are some fugly statlines all around the NFL. Several from actual legit SB contenders and many from teams that are in that muddled "are they good or are they actually bad" zone the Steelers are in.

I was pretty pissy during the game...but, overall, it just isn't surprising. They are a rebuilding team with major roster flaws that is trying to integrate a ton of new guys and many of the "key" players just got somewhere between their 1st and 18th NFL game in.

But again....for this team....it ALL hangs on KP. And today he was absolutely awful. Yes, the play-calling did him no favors. But he left many important plays (that were there) out on the field. He showed no ability to handle a pass rush, throw with anticipation, and his (vaunted?) accuracy totally deserted him.

You can have whoever you want calling plays, but that total meltdown from your QB is hard to overcome.

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Maybe they could have put him on Aiyuk to see if we could have slowed him down?

A certain SS that now plays in Philly might have looked pretty nice defending a hulking WR like Aiyuk. Certainly better than Kazee arriving from off-screen to get tossed aside.

Steel Peon
09-10-2023, 03:50 PM
The roster has moved and shifted constantly, and yet all the same problems remain. But what hasn't changed? The coaching staff.

All of this coaching staff is, and has been, comprised of The Tomlin Stooges™. This is why Brian Flores left, because he has his own plan and won't be a stooge.

Steeler-in-west
09-10-2023, 04:01 PM
Tomlin has won by motivating players, he’s won with superior talent and assistance from a decent coaching staff. Looks like he has none of that now, except for his motivational speeches.

I’ll admit that KP didn’t look good. Irrespective of the poor play design he should be able to hit the open man accurately - specially with his mobility and smarts - he sh** his pants out there today. Hope it’s a one game thing.

86WARD
09-10-2023, 04:04 PM
I can see some of what you guys are saying BUT....there are some fugly statlines all around the NFL. Several from actual legit SB contenders and many from teams that are in that muddled "are they good or are they actually bad" zone the Steelers are in.

I was pretty pissy during the game...but, overall, it just isn't surprising. They are a rebuilding team with major roster flaws that is trying to integrate a ton of new guys and many of the "key" players just got somewhere between their 1st and 18th NFL game in.

But again....for this team....it ALL hangs on KP. And today he was absolutely awful. Yes, the play-calling did him no favors. But he left many important plays (that were there) out on the field. He showed no ability to handle a pass rush, throw with anticipation, and his (vaunted?) accuracy totally deserted him.

You can have whoever you want calling plays, but that total meltdown from your QB is hard to overcome.

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A certain SS that now plays in Philly might have looked pretty nice defending a hulking WR like Aiyuk. Certainly better than Kazee arriving from off-screen to get tossed aside.

You saying that Pickett sucks after this game is kinda the same as everyone who said he was the next coming after the preseason. Maybe he's bad, maybe he's the next coming...the sample size is still way too small and you really aren't getting a good sample either way with an OC who has a proven terrible track record.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 04:09 PM
You saying that Pickett sucks after this game is kinda the same as everyone who said he was the next coming after the preseason. Maybe he's bad, maybe he's the next coming...the sample size is still way too small and you really aren't getting a good sample either way with an OC who has a proven terrible track record.

Notice I said "today".

Today he stunk and played jittery all afternoon.

There's no way better oc does anything with the steaming turd KP put out there today.

Heck, he might go on and play amazing the rest of the season. But he was flat out awful this Sunday.

pepsyman1
09-10-2023, 04:32 PM
Calvin Austin is supposedly a burner, but he's running quick outs and we never took a shot downfield with him, or even run a jet sweep.

The roster has moved and shifted constantly, and yet all the same problems remain. But what hasn't changed? The coaching staff.

I agree with everything you said.....BUT, I think they did try Austin on a jet sweep on the 2nd play of the game and it lost a yard...lol

Rotorhead
09-10-2023, 04:34 PM
Notice I said "today".

Today he stunk and played jittery all afternoon.

There's no way better oc does anything with the steaming turd KP put out there today.

Heck, he might go on and play amazing the rest of the season. But he was flat out awful this Sunday.

He did play poorly, but a better OC with an actual scheme or the ability to adjust the game plan, can make a difference when a young QB is having an off game. Easy open throws to get into a rhythm can usually correct a bad start. More time in a clean pocket to settle down can help (meaning putting in 2 TEs to help).

Not saying that would have helped today, but those are things that a good OC can do to help.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 04:43 PM
He did play poorly, but a better OC with an actual scheme or the ability to adjust the game plan, can make a difference when a young QB is having an off game. Easy open throws to get into a rhythm can usually correct a bad start. More time in a clean pocket to settle down can help (meaning putting in 2 TEs to help).

Not saying that would have helped today, but those are things that a good OC can do to help.

That stuff was there to a degree. KP missed multiple open throws. He fled fairly stable pockets.

Even that 4th down completion to McFarland was harder than it needed to be. That was a nothing throw in the NFL level and KP almost screwed it up.

I'm.all for shit canning Canada but KP was a MAJOR part of the problem today.

Saying anything different is just desperate attempt to stay positive. New information comes out and shows me stuff I didn't see on TV and I'll back off. But until then, KP is squarely on thepart of tye problem list.

Steeldude
09-10-2023, 05:04 PM
It's ok though because Tomlin has never had a losing season. Let's keep up the mediocrity, that's really what counts.

Born2Steel
09-10-2023, 05:07 PM
That stuff was there to a degree. KP missed multiple open throws. He fled fairly stable pockets.

Even that 4th down completion to McFarland was harder than it needed to be. That was a nothing throw in the NFL level and KP almost screwed it up.

I'm.all for shit canning Canada but KP was a MAJOR part of the problem today.

Saying anything different is just desperate attempt to stay positive. New information comes out and shows me stuff I didn't see on TV and I'll back off. But until then, KP is squarely on thepart of tye problem list.

There was also a lot of players running toward the sidelines instead of get upfield after the catch. There’s plenty of blame to go around today.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 05:43 PM
There was also a lot of players running toward the sidelines instead of get upfield after the catch. There’s plenty of blame to go around today.

Sure. Team loss and all that.

But what, for just today, was the difference between Pickett and Rudolph?

If this is KP's second year leap, it is a leap into the backup QB abyss.

Born2Steel
09-10-2023, 05:50 PM
Sure. Team loss and all that.

But what, for just today, was the difference between Pickett and Rudolph?

If this is KP's second year leap, it is a leap into the backup QB abyss.

The 2-minute offense executed and scored pretty easily at the end of the half. What was the difference in execution? So many things went wrong today.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 06:00 PM
The 2-minute offense executed and scored pretty easily at the end of the half. What was the difference in execution? So many things went wrong today.

Everyone looks good in a 2 minute offense. They tried to go tempo other times and it wasn't good.

Lots went wrong.

KP's poor play was top 3 on that list for me.

Rotorhead
09-10-2023, 06:06 PM
Everyone looks good in a 2 minute offense. They tried to go tempo other times and it wasn't good.

Lots went wrong.

KP's poor play was top 3 on that list for me.

We get it, you don’t like KP. As much as you want to reiterate that, he wasn’t the only issue, or the main issue.

DuckHodges
09-10-2023, 06:08 PM
We get it, you don’t like KP. As much as you want to reiterate that, he wasn’t the only issue, or the main issue.

I have to disagree, he had a number of drive killers where if he was on target, would have extended the drive. KP easily played one of the worst games of his career today. And I'm a big KP fan.

With that said, there was an excuse last year for this kind of performance, but players are expected to make a sizable jump in year 2. His play today didn't inspire any confidence at all, not even a little.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 06:14 PM
I've been pretty dang positive about KP. I like Kenny. Go back and read any of my posts. I got reservations but I've been majority positive.

I'm not going to let my frustration with Canada prevent m from.seeing what was on my TV all afternoon.

Like Duck said above, KP missed plays.

Born2Steel
09-10-2023, 06:18 PM
Everyone looks good in a 2 minute offense. They tried to go tempo other times and it wasn't good.

Lots went wrong.

KP's poor play was top 3 on that list for me.

Right or wrong, QBs typically get judged on 3rd downs. KP was awful on 3rd downs. He looked uncomfortable, he was starring down guys, he threw several passes behind his target which could have moved the chains. KP played poorly from beginning to end.

Rotorhead
09-10-2023, 06:22 PM
I've been pretty dang positive about KP. I like Kenny. Go back and read any of my posts. I got reservations but I've been majority positive.

I'm not going to let my frustration with Canada prevent m from.seeing what was on my TV all afternoon.

Like Duck said above, KP missed plays.

Of course he did, he played poorly, but we couldn’t run the ball, he was sacked 5x cause our WRs weren’t open and his dump offs were even covered. The OL was dominated from start to finish, the defense had breakdowns at key times and the OC didn’t have any adjustments to the 49ers defense at all. Oh, and our punter was terrible yet again. KP played terrible, but he wasn’t the only one, which was my point.

Rotorhead
09-10-2023, 06:50 PM
BTW:
Joe Burrow 14-31 82yds
Deshaun Watson 16-29 154yds 1TD 1 INT
Lamar Jackson 17-22 169yds 1 INT
Kenny Pickett 31-46 233 1TD 2 INT

So if we make decisions about how good a QB is based on week one . . .

86WARD
09-10-2023, 06:59 PM
Notice I said "today".

Today he stunk and played jittery all afternoon.

There's no way better oc does anything with the steaming turd KP put out there today.

Heck, he might go on and play amazing the rest of the season. But he was flat out awful this Sunday.

I’d disagree. With a better OC and better WR/QB communication, some of that could be fixed.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 06:59 PM
I mean we're making decisions on coaching staffs; so why not QBs?

Steelersgot their asses kicked up and down both lines and the QB looked confused, jittery, and woefully inaccurate.

Other than that; things looked fine [emoji3]

86WARD
09-10-2023, 07:00 PM
BTW:
Joe Burrow 14-31 82yds
Deshaun Watson 16-29 154yds 1TD 1 INT
Lamar Jackson 17-22 169yds 1 INT
Kenny Pickett 31-46 233 1TD 2 INT

So if we make decisions about how good a QB is based on week one . . .

That’s a plus…they didn’t pay Pickett $275M yesterday for him to lay a turd today…he just laid a turd at a reasonable price.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 07:02 PM
I’d disagree. With a better OC and better WR/QB communication, some of that could be fixed.

He missed open guys. The scheme got them open. They ran the route properly. KP made the right read. Then just flat out missed the throw.

There were 2 of those for every one of tye miscommunication and scheme plays.

Next week that ratio will be totally different.

86WARD
09-10-2023, 07:08 PM
He missed open guys. The scheme got them open. They ran the route properly. KP made the right read. Then just flat out missed the throw.

There were 2 of those for every one of tye miscommunication and scheme plays.

Next week that ratio will be totally different.

Allen Robinson did not. One particular play he was supposed to sit and where Pickett threw the ball, it appeared behind him. Robinson took the route through an open area and to the defender. That’s miscommunication between the WR and QB.

He was also forcing balls to specific receivers which was how Trubisky (and Ben) said Canada runs his offense. He didn’t necessarily read the play correctly because I could see receivers running wide open at times. I’m betting he had only a couple reads on these plays. I tend to think that there’s a whole combination of things that are involved in this other than just Pickett errently throwing bad balls.

Pickett played poorly but this offense is bad and that’s a big start to the problem…it’s not all Kenny’s fault.

Mojouw
09-10-2023, 07:14 PM
Allen Robinson did not. One particular play he was supposed to sit and where Pickett threw the ball, it appeared behind him. Robinson took the route through an open area and to the defender. That’s miscommunication between the WR and QB.

He was also forcing balls to specific receivers which was how Trubisky (and Ben) said Canada runs his offense. He didn’t necessarily read the play correctly because I could see receivers running wide open at times. I’m betting he had only a couple reads on these plays. I tend to think that there’s a whole combination of things that are involved in this other than just Pickett errently throwing bad balls.

Pickett played poorly but this offense is bad and that’s a big start to the problem…it’s not all Kenny’s fault.

Of course it's not all KPs fault. But it's not all Canada's either.

It's possible for both of them to stink.

And we knew Canada stunk. So no big issue there.

But we all wanted to believe KP was poised to leave stink behind. And for today, he looked like the Mayor of Stink with Canada as his pool boy.

86WARD
09-11-2023, 06:53 AM
Of course it's not all KPs fault. But it's not all Canada's either.

It's possible for both of them to stink.

And we knew Canada stunk. So no big issue there.

But we all wanted to believe KP was poised to leave stink behind. And for today, he looked like the Mayor of Stink with Canada as his pool boy.

That I’ll agree with…lol

that1guy
09-11-2023, 08:38 AM
I'd say the defense is a bigger worry than Pickett. Pickett threw some very inaccurate passes but the receivers slipped at the top of both routes on the interceptions ( still poor throws). The defense was shredded in every way possible. The Secondary is unbelievably bad maybe the worst showing in my memory. The 49ers receivers ran uncovered all game long, there were plays a DB wasn't even close enough to be on the TV screen. The Steelers have some choices to make in the Secondary, truth is Purdy isn't in the same league as some of the QBs the Steelers will face later on in the season.

Dwinsgames
09-11-2023, 11:40 AM
on the job training (Canada) at the highest level should not be happening , if its going to be all the rage I would like to apply for the Def Coordinator job

Born2Steel
09-11-2023, 11:44 AM
I'd say the defense is a bigger worry than Pickett. Pickett threw some very inaccurate passes but the receivers slipped at the top of both routes on the interceptions ( still poor throws). The defense was shredded in every way possible. The Secondary is unbelievably bad maybe the worst showing in my memory. The 49ers receivers ran uncovered all game long, there were plays a DB wasn't even close enough to be on the TV screen. The Steelers have some choices to make in the Secondary, truth is Purdy isn't in the same league as some of the QBs the Steelers will face later on in the season.

Add in all 3 starters on DL left that game. I thought our LB corps had an outstanding game. The secondary had zero communication and/or understanding their roles. Several times I saw DBs talking and out of position at the snap. Lots to clean up defensively.

RunNGun
09-11-2023, 12:10 PM
ILBs couldn't cover a cold. 9ers ran all over us and converted every 3rd down they needed to. There was nothing outstanding about their play, IMO. Teams who are fine with throwing underneath will cause us a lot of problems because our ILBs can't play in space.

I recall one play that was the ugliest...Samuel made a leaping catch on a crossing route with Holcomb trying to make a diving effort on the ball, having no idea where the WR was. 0 awareness.

That game was JV vs Varsity, as Tomlin would say.

Born2Steel
09-11-2023, 12:18 PM
ILBs couldn't cover a cold. 9ers ran all over us and converted every 3rd down they needed to. There was nothing outstanding about their play, IMO. Teams who are fine with throwing underneath will cause us a lot of problems because our ILBs can't play in space.

I recall one play that was the ugliest...Samuel made a leaping catch on a crossing route with Holcomb trying to make a diving effort on the ball, having no idea where the WR was. 0 awareness.

That game was JV vs Varsity, as Tomlin would say.

Holcomb on Samuel? You think that is an ILB issue?

Dwinsgames
09-11-2023, 12:21 PM
ILBs couldn't cover a cold. 9ers ran all over us and converted every 3rd down they needed to. There was nothing outstanding about their play, IMO. Teams who are fine with throwing underneath will cause us a lot of problems because our ILBs can't play in space.

I recall one play that was the ugliest...Samuel made a leaping catch on a crossing route with Holcomb trying to make a diving effort on the ball, having no idea where the WR was. 0 awareness.

That game was JV vs Varsity, as Tomlin would say.

E.Rob seems fine as a thumper but coverage is not his forte same can be said with Holcomb (I recall the play you are speaking of ) he dove to his right (our left on the tv screen) and was 4 feet from the football after the dive it reminded me of a play Bush had that was nearly identical and he got murdered for it from pundits and fans alike ...

I honestly think only 1 of (Holcomb /Roberts) should be on the field and Kwon should be playing 3 downs , he isnt perfect but he is the best we have coverage wise and he has a nose for the ball and isnt afraid to hit ...

I get it that Kwon has not been known for durability so they may be trying to rotate him to keep him healthy longer but saving him for a long season and playoff run is useless if you do not get there ...

play the best 11 on def and Kwon is certainly one of the best 11 ...

but lets be honest thats just 1 of many many problems this team has and that was exposed yesterday

Born2Steel
09-11-2023, 12:33 PM
The doom and gloom is actually very funny to me. If this team goes on to win 10-11 of it’s remaining 16 games how bad are you going to be crying over losing to the fully loaded 49ers in week 1?

When the offense is going 3&out it is very tough to make adjustments because there simply aren’t enough plays to analyze. When the offense is going 3&out the defense is going to struggle.

The Steelers took a legit ass whooping in that game. I hope they are more focused ready to play this week. We’ll see.

Dwinsgames
09-11-2023, 12:58 PM
Holcomb on Samuel? You think that is an ILB issue?

that is a whole other issue in itself ... it was like the times we seen VW 30 yards deep in the corner of the endzone on a WR ... yet here we are still doing the same shit and wondering why it isnt working instead of doing it differently

pczach
09-11-2023, 01:21 PM
on the job training (Canada) at the highest level should not be happening , if its going to be all the rage I would like to apply for the Def Coordinator job


Matt Canada just had a master class in his own stadium on how a good offense is schemed up and utilized when there is very good talent. I hope he was taking notes.

For all who didn't see the graphic put up on the broadcast, the 49ers have led the NFL in YAC every year since 2018. Sure, they have talented players, but that is a clear example of how scheme is used to create positive situations for your players on the field and how to get talented players the ball in space.

I understand people defending Pickett, but he was awful yesterday. Certainly not everything was on him, but Kenny didn't do many of the routine things well today. I got a bad feeling when he completed the first pass of the game for 6 yards and then Canada brings in Austin and runs a jet sweep to him for a 4 yard loss. A sign of things to come.

We also got to see what the Steelers have been missing since Shazier's injury. Watching those two inside LBs run to the hole and devastate runners or play inside out and fly out to the flat and smack the back immediately for little or no gain is what this team is missing. Compare that to Elandon Roberts trying to get to Kittle on that fourth down play where he looked more like me trying to run out there to get to the TE than a high-end NFL defender. It was no contest. I'm not blaming Roberts, that's just the level of speed and athleticism he has compared to a guy like Warner.

They have ignored ILB with the notable exception of the big swing and a miss on Bush. They need to get more athletic and fast at ILB. I can't say it any better than that. These guys can play a little bit, but they are not players that can control the middle of the field and the running lanes.

Injuries sucked in this game. Losing these guys hurts, but some young players did get some action against real men on the other side of the ball. Not much went right in this game. The Steelers were on the wrong side of some bounces, some injuries, and some calls, but this was an old fashioned beatdown. We will see how they respond.

Remember, this is only one game. Many teams shit the bed on opening day. There were examples of it all around the league yesterday. Let's all take a deep breath and wait to see how this plays out over the next couple weeks. We should start to get real answers and see real improvement by week 4-6....or not.

steelcityboyz
09-11-2023, 03:33 PM
Allen Robinson did not. One particular play he was supposed to sit and where Pickett threw the ball, it appeared behind him. Robinson took the route through an open area and to the defender. That’s miscommunication between the WR and QB.

He was also forcing balls to specific receivers which was how Trubisky (and Ben) said Canada runs his offense. He didn’t necessarily read the play correctly because I could see receivers running wide open at times. I’m betting he had only a couple reads on these plays. I tend to think that there’s a whole combination of things that are involved in this other than just Pickett errently throwing bad balls.

Pickett played poorly but this offense is bad and that’s a big start to the problem…it’s not all Kenny’s fault.well said.

Born2Steel
09-11-2023, 04:24 PM
Allen Robinson did not. One particular play he was supposed to sit and where Pickett threw the ball, it appeared behind him. Robinson took the route through an open area and to the defender. That’s miscommunication between the WR and QB.

He was also forcing balls to specific receivers which was how Trubisky (and Ben) said Canada runs his offense. He didn’t necessarily read the play correctly because I could see receivers running wide open at times. I’m betting he had only a couple reads on these plays. I tend to think that there’s a whole combination of things that are involved in this other than just Pickett errently throwing bad balls.

Pickett played poorly but this offense is bad and that’s a big start to the problem…it’s not all Kenny’s fault.

I think that’s the same offense the 49ers are running with Purdy. I didn’t see anything special there either except the guys he threw to were those wide open receivers.

86WARD
09-11-2023, 04:53 PM
No LB can cover in this Steelers scheme with the way passing is handled nowadays. They’re just set up for mismatches every play.

Devilsdancefloor
09-11-2023, 05:20 PM
adams should be on the PS at best he played horrible wallace needs to lose a helmet for a few games he was always a few yards away every catch, the 9ers played pitch and catch the whole game. "Big Ken" needs to stop listening to the media and just play the damn game. Canada shouldnt have a job today play calling was horrible and 0 creativity.

RunNGun
09-11-2023, 06:32 PM
that is a whole other issue in itself ... it was like the times we seen VW 30 yards deep in the corner of the endzone on a WR ... yet here we are still doing the same shit and wondering why it isnt working instead of doing it differently

It was zone coverage fwiw. He wasn't manned up on Deebo on that play.

Dwinsgames
09-11-2023, 06:36 PM
It was zone coverage fwiw. He wasn't manned up on Deebo on that play.

I honestly cant recall

Edman
09-13-2023, 12:25 PM
I've been pretty dang positive about KP. I like Kenny. Go back and read any of my posts. I got reservations but I've been majority positive.

I'm not going to let my frustration with Canada prevent m from.seeing what was on my TV all afternoon.

Like Duck said above, KP missed plays.

I can vouch for that. You have been big time on Pickett here and you're right, he did not play well at all. Even last season as a rookie he never looked as bad he did Sunday. It was KP's worst game as a pro. He was shaken and like he never played before. The whole team was terrible and no one played well.

The most we can hope from Pickett is that he learns and rebounds from it.