Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

[86WARD]

Officially screwed at CB…lol.

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[Dwinsgames]

ugh .................................................. ..............................

[tube517]

Played outside, slot and a little bit of safety in some formations.

Big loss.

[86WARD]

It’s not even a terrible deal…

[Dwinsgames]

It’s not even a terrible deal…

I would gladly have seen the steelers pay that ... he was a top 5 corner and to get him at top 15-18 money is a great deal for a player of his ability and knowledge

[polamalubeast]

ouch.....

[DesertSteel]

Wow! The Steelers must not think Sutton is even close to a CB1 because they just let Sutton go for CB2 money. I sure hope Kahn has a plan and they’ve targeted a CB in free agency. Not a great start to free agency.

[dislocatedday]

It’s not even a terrible deal…

True, it appears to be a very reasonable deal. I have to wonder why Sutton is no longer with the Steelers at that price. Maybe the Steelers made no real effort to keep him, and Sutton felt jilted and left without giving the Steelers a chance to match or offer more. I guess it is also possible the Steelers do not think he is worth that much.

CB was already a need, and now it is a massive need to be addressed in FA and/or the draft.

[GBMelBlount]

Too Bad. However, cornerback is arguably one of (if not THE) deepest position in the draft.

[steelreserve]

For all those who said "I don't mind that we're paying Trubisky $8 million to be a backup" and "paying William Jackson III $3 million to sit on IR didn't hurt anything" ... well, here's what that money could've been used for. Instead, now we've got one more problem.

[polamalubeast]

For all those who said "I don't mind that we're paying Trubisky $8 million to be a backup" and "paying William Jackson III $3 million to sit on IR didn't hurt anything" ... well, here's what that money could've been used for. Instead, now we've got one more problem.

The steelers could easily offer this contract to Sutton even with that.....It's just the steelers or Sutton said no to it...I think this is more about the steelers....

[86WARD]

Wow! The Steelers must not think Sutton is even close to a CB1 because they just let Sutton go for CB2 money. I sure hope Kahn has a plan and they’ve targeted a CB in free agency. Not a great start to free agency.

He must have a plan.

Also, do the Steelers offer two seasons guaranteed? May be why that deal was done in Detroit and not Pittsburgh.


Ahkello Witherspoon
Levi Wallace
James Pierre (RFA)
Arthur Maulet
Duke Dawson
Madre Harper
Chris Wilcox

There must be more to it…must be some plan in place…right??

[86WARD]

REMEMBER:

Nothing is official until Wednesday…

[polamalubeast]

The steelers way were great 10-15 years ago and before that but now,this is just terrible....The steelers are so slow to adjust of the current NFL.Just awful

[Dwinsgames]

The steelers could easily offer this contract to Sutton even with that.....It's just the steelers or Sutton said no to it...I think this is more about the steelers....

so you are saying the team is stupid then or smart ?

the way I see it is its a really poor move ( or non move if you will) ....

as it stands we have NO starting quality corners on the roster ...

sure there is spoon who can be one of the best in the league this week and the next two stink it up to then rebound the following 3 as all world and then go on season ending IR but thats not my idea of a solid starter on paper ....

[polamalubeast]

so you are saying the team is stupid then or smart ?

the way I see it is its a really poor move ( or non move if you will) ....

as it stands we have NO starting quality corners on the roster ...

sure there is spoon who can be one of the best in the league this week and the next two stink it up to then rebound the following 3 as all world and then go on season ending IR but thats not my idea of a solid starter on paper ....

They are stupid...Just look at my post 14

[Shoes]

Didn't I read somewhere Mr. Dulac said Sutton wouldn't get $10 mil a year? :chuckle:

[Born2Steel]

The guaranteed money is less than $8M/yr.

[polamalubeast]

Didn't I read somewhere Mr. Dulac said Sutton wouldn't get $10 mil a year?

Dulac know nothing...So far I had predict that Hargrave was to have at least 20 millions per year and Sutton at least 10....This is not 2018!

[Shoes]

Dulac know nothing...So far I had predict that Hargrave was to have at least 20 millions per year and Sutton at least 10....This is not 2018!

I forgot to add the :chuckle: I will correct that :chuckle:

[86WARD]

The guaranteed money is less than $8M/yr.

Might be the first two years guaranteed though…which for the Steelers, that’s a big deal…

[Mojouw]

It seems difficult to wrap our heads around right now. But in a couple weeks when all the other moves shake out...it likely makes more sense.

[polamalubeast]

It seems difficult to wrap our heads around right now. But in a couple weeks when all the other moves shake out...it likely makes more sense.

It have no choice....

[Dwinsgames]

It seems difficult to wrap our heads around right now. But in a couple weeks when all the other moves shake out...it likely makes more sense.

it better because at this current state of the team Maulet is likely a starter ..........let that sink in

[Mojouw]

They were never going to pay Sutton that kind of coin. We can debate where it falls within the overall CB salary market leaguewide, but the Steelers have never placed that kind of value on the position.

They pay front 7 and safeties and get by with adequate at best CBs. Then they hope they get lucky here or there with a draft and develop guy. They have been doing that for what? 20 years? More?

Finally, you can go look up the stats and various ratings. Very (very) few CBs are good season to season. They have an up year and then a down and then an up or whatever. Sutton just had the best year he's ever had. Steelers weren't going to pay for that year and then have him have a down one.

I am not saying all of these things are correct or that we should fall in step with that line of thinking. But once Sutton got offers north of $8 million per year...Khan and company likely helped him pack.

[DuckHodges]

sad face

[86WARD]

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[pczach]

Those numbers are very reasonable.

I understand that Khan must have a plan, but they better be planning on moving down in the draft to acquire more picks. There are more holes than draft picks and they just lost maybe the best FA on their roster at a signable rate.

You can't overreact to this stuff. The Steelers have been linked to other CBs in FA so who knows. I just don't like the start here. Letting your best, young CB walk and signing an old man at the same position isn't a step in the right direction.

There is a long way to go, but it is a little gut punch right out of the gate.

[DesertSteel]

Since deals can't be signed until Wednesday, I'd love for the Steelers to step up and beat this offer and keep Sutton. Guys change their minds every year.

[Psycho Ward 86]

REMEMBER:

Nothing is official until Wednesday…

Im hoping for a "Ryan Clark is signing with Miami" situation

[EzraTank]

First Hilton, now Sutton. Two quality guys that played big roles. But hey we signed an old dude from the Vikings ... nothing to see here.

[Psycho Ward 86]

First Hilton, now Sutton. Two quality guys that played big roles. But hey we signed an old dude from the Vikings ... nothing to see here.

It is unfortunate. The position that we are probably the worst at scouting talent for is the position in recent years that we cant keep 2 guys that can actually ball

[Mojouw]

I liked Sutton. His value was his extreme versatility. And it was cool to see him progress through his career.

But I wonder if the Eagles game capped his value. I think he played but I may be wrong. Either way that game showed that the Steelers didn’t have anyone that could cover high end wideouts. So maybe not willing to give out top 15-20 money for a “#2” corner - whatever that means.

[DesertSteel]

I liked Sutton. His value was his extreme versatility. And it was cool to see him progress through his career.

But I wonder if the Eagles game capped his value. I think he played but I may be wrong. Either way that game showed that the Steelers didn’t have anyone that could cover high end wideouts. So maybe not willing to give out top 15-20 money for a “#2” corner - whatever that means.
I think $11-12M is CB2 money in the current market. For whatever reason, they did not value him as someone who couldn't easily be replaced.

[Born2Steel]

The truth is we don’t know the conversations between the Steelers and Sutton. There really is an offseason/FA/Draft plan every single year. Sutton leaving most likely has nothing to do with an ‘on-field value perspective’. Most likely there is an amount they would bring him back for, want to bring him back for, but the Lions offered over that amount. Sutton is not ring chasing with us or the Lions. Looks to me that it was a very easy decision based on dollars. But, and I feel this is an important point, dollars offered doesn’t necessarily equal on-field value. Sometimes it is just sticking to the plan. Just business, not personal or emotional.

[Edman]

First Hilton, now Sutton. Two quality guys that played big roles. But hey we signed an old dude from the Vikings ... nothing to see here.

Big "Roles". They were not superstars for the Steelers. They were just extremely good at the roles the Steelers asked them to do. All the power to them if they want to take greater opportunities elsewhere.

If teams like the Bengals and Lions want to pay role players big time money, all the best to them. Hilton is doing very well for himself, and I wish the same fortune to Sutton.

[Edman]

They were never going to pay Sutton that kind of coin. We can debate where it falls within the overall CB salary market leaguewide, but the Steelers have never placed that kind of value on the position.

They pay front 7 and safeties and get by with adequate at best CBs. Then they hope they get lucky here or there with a draft and develop guy. They have been doing that for what? 20 years? More?

Finally, you can go look up the stats and various ratings. Very (very) few CBs are good season to season. They have an up year and then a down and then an up or whatever. Sutton just had the best year he's ever had. Steelers weren't going to pay for that year and then have him have a down one.

I am not saying all of these things are correct or that we should fall in step with that line of thinking. But once Sutton got offers north of $8 million per year...Khan and company likely helped him pack.

The Steelers haven't had a top-flight corner since Woodson, and even then they couldn't keep him on board forever. They like the Ike Taylor/Deshea Townsend types who can do as they are asked to do.

[DesertSteel]

The Steelers haven't had a top-flight corner since Woodson, and even then they couldn't keep him on board forever. They like the Ike Taylor/Deshea Townsend types who can do as they are asked to do.
Yeah they wouldn't want another Rod Woodson! lol

[Dwinsgames]

Don’t let the splashier names in free agency overshadow this signing. There are two key Next Gen Stats categories in which Sutton ranked as the third-best outside corner in the NFL last season: receptions over expected allowed (-9.5) and ballhawk rate (20.8%). Though he was part of a Steelers secondary that had some challenges as a unit, Sutton allowed just 411 total yards in coverage, according to PFF, which ranked fifth-best among corners who logged at least 400 coverage snaps.

[El Kabong]

Yeah they wouldn't want another Rod Woodson! lol
Why?

[Steeler-in-west]

To let a good CB (maybe the best we had) go? they have to have a plan in mind (aside from a 32 yr old Peterson)

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The steelers could easily offer this contract to Sutton even with that.....It's just the steelers or Sutton said no to it...I think this is more about the steelers....

they didn't want to re-sign him. This is ultimately more about Tomlin, Austin and their plan for the defense.

[Born2Steel]

To let a good CB (maybe the best we had) go? they have to have a plan in mind (aside from a 32 yr old Peterson)

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they didn't want to re-sign him. This is ultimately more about Tomlin, Austin and their plan for the defense.

I honestly think planA is Joey Porter Jr at 17. I also think planB is one of about 6 other CBs at 17 if JPjr is not still available.

I also think we need better Tackles. I don't think they want one as badly as I do. I feel that will be a round 2 or 3 pick. Signing Herbig has me hopeful anyway.

We re-signed Kazee but not Edmunds yet. I hope that is being negotiated. Otherwise a guy like Brian Branch or Jordan Battle could easily move into contention for an early draft pick. I think both would be excellent here.

Maybe we don't see a WR, TE, or RB drafted this year? I think one of those will be just because it's what we do. Plus, gotta give your young QB weapons. I think it will be WR if any.

[Steeler-in-west]

I honestly think planA is Joey Porter Jr at 17. I also think planB is one of about 6 other CBs at 17 if JPjr is not still available.

I also think we need better Tackles. I don't think they want one as badly as I do. I feel that will be a round 2 or 3 pick. Signing Herbig has me hopeful anyway.

We re-signed Kazee but not Edmunds yet. I hope that is being negotiated. Otherwise a guy like Brian Branch or Jordan Battle could easily move into contention for an early draft pick. I think both would be excellent here.

Maybe we don't see a WR, TE, or RB drafted this year? I think one of those will be just because it's what we do. Plus, gotta give your young QB weapons. I think it will be WR if any.

With the new FA guard pickup Plan A looks reasonable (CB - JP-jr as the 1st pick and hopefully a LT with the 2nd pick).

Agreed on WR, (not crazy about DJ) as for the others we have Warren backing up Najee and already a good TE set of PF, Gentry and Conner

[Dwinsgames]

With the new FA guard pickup Plan A looks reasonable (CB - JP-jr as the 1st pick and hopefully a LT with the 2nd pick).

Agreed on WR, (not crazy about DJ) as for the others we have Warren backing up Najee and already a good TE set of PF, Gentry and Conner


if we could trade DJ and use the pick / picks to replace him I would be ecstatic ...I only used plural as some seem to think he is worthy if that is a teams thought I welcome them to the bargaining table (only takes 1 )

[Steeler-in-west]

if we could trade DJ and use the pick / picks to replace him I would be ecstatic ...I only used plural as some seem to think he is worthy if that is a teams thought I welcome them to the bargaining table (only takes 1 )

they should shop him around. Someone might give us a good offer based on his physical talent, but his focus and concentration are not there half the time and he plays like a bone head, so that could keep the market for his services lukewarm

[EzraTank]

I think the Lions are building a very good team for next year. I would not be shocked if they win their division. The Packers lost Rodgers and I'm not sold on Jordan Love, the Vikings still have Cousins and the Bears are in full rebuild mode.

[tube517]

I think the Lions are building a very good team for next year. I would not be shocked if they win their division. The Packers lost Rodgers and I'm not sold on Jordan Love, the Vikings still have Cousins and the Bears are in full rebuild mode.

Basically a brand new secondary.

[DesertSteel]

I think the primary reason they didn't re-sign Sutton was the overall salary of the defense. The most expensive in the league. They needed to get cheaper and balance out so they are going with a cheap veteran and a high draft pick. Not terrible logic.

[BlackAndGold]

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[pczach]

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Letting him go was a huge mistake IMO.

[BlackAndGold]

Letting him go was a huge mistake IMO.

I'll never understand the decision. He was playing fantastic last year and is in the middle of his prime. Sutton and JPJ could have held down the CB spots for the next few years.

[pczach]

I'll never understand the decision. He was playing fantastic last year and is in the middle of his prime. Sutton and JPJ could have held down the CB spots for the next few years.



They are feeling it more now, with Joey Porter not playing and the bad injury to Trice as he looked so promising.

Add to that bringing in an old Patrick Peterson that isn't what he has been in his prime, he was clearly no longer the man coverage dynamo he was with the Vikings, and it was obvious to anyone paying attention that he could no longer hold up playing man.

Now, here they are with no Cam Sutton, very little Porter, and a version of Pat Pete that looks his age so far.

[Born2Steel]

Another damned if you do, damned if you don't. Keep a veteran player and we're hanging on too long. Let one get away in FA and we shouldn't have let him go. Just one more complaint log to throw on the fire I guess.

[86WARD]

Sutton was above average in Pittsburgh. He wasn’t great. His best days were as a nickel CB. Even if he were better, the way their defense is set up, he still wouldn’t look as good as he does in Detroit. Their pass defense in Pittsburgh has been just about as bad as the offense. If there’s no pass rush, the opposing team can throw all over this team.

[pczach]

Another damned if you do, damned if you don't. Keep a veteran player and we're hanging on too long. Let one get away in FA and we shouldn't have let him go. Just one more complaint log to throw on the fire I guess.

I said I thought it was a mistake at the time they didn't want to pay Sutton and they signed Peterson for the same reason I am saying this now.

He's been getting better every year and he turned 28 years old in February. They basically replaced him with Patrick Peterson, who was 33 years old in July.

I don't really think that it is a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. They damned themselves by signing a cornerback that is 33 years old instead of giving the money to a younger, better player. They could have given Sutton a 4-year deal and he would have completed that contract and would still be younger than Peterson is right now and would most likely still have cover skills at what would be a reasonable rate in 4 years.

[Mojouw]

They clearly want several things out of their outside CBs (length, ball skills, and the ability to press). Because of his size, they do not see Sutton as that kind of CB.

Ignore the age...but they replaced Sutton with a guy built in a lab to their specifications in Peterson. He was supposed to fill the gap until their vat grown CBs (Porter and Trice) came online.

It does not appear to have worked out, but the chain of reasoning is clear to see.

I think the other miscalculation was that Kazee and Neal could replace Edmunds. They have failed at that so far. And it makes our CBs look worse because MF can't just hangout at deep FS and make plays on the ball or clean up messes. He's often being moved down into the mix to do safety crap that Edmunds handled.

I know I am a broken record....but that was just a mistake....however I also strongly believe that Edmunds just didn't want to be here anymore and I am not sure $10 million per would have changed his mind.

[Born2Steel]

I said I thought it was a mistake at the time they didn't want to pay Sutton and they signed Peterson for the same reason I am saying this now.

He's been getting better every year and he turned 28 years old in February. They basically replaced him with Patrick Peterson, who was 33 years old in July.

I don't really think that it is a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. They damned themselves by signing a cornerback that is 33 years old instead of giving the money to a younger, better player. They could have given Sutton a 4-year deal and he would have completed that contract and would still be younger than Peterson is right now and would most likely still have cover skills at what would be a reasonable rate in 4 years.

The Steelers were never going to re-sign Sutton to a 4year deal. I am a bigger Sutton fan than most and I hated him leaving. Sutton wanted the longer contract. Edmunds wanted to leave. But that wasn’t my point. My point is the complaining and the Steelers can’t win with most fans whatever moves they make.

We are thin at WR depth so they bring in Mims. Nothing but scoffs and barbs about the move. Monday morning QBs is one thing. This constant complaining is something else though.

[dislocatedday]

The Steelers haven't had a top-flight corner since Woodson, and even then they couldn't keep him on board forever. They like the Ike Taylor/Deshea Townsend types who can do as they are asked to do.

I think you are selling Ike Taylor short. He was a true shutdown corner in his prime in my opinion. He just had hands of stone and could not catch the ball to get interceptions. If he could have he would have been a consistent pro-bowl/all-pro player I think.

[tube517]

The Steelers were never going to re-sign Sutton to a 4year deal. I am a bigger Sutton fan than most and I hated him leaving. Sutton wanted the longer contract. Edmunds wanted to leave. But that wasn’t my point. My point is the complaining and the Steelers can’t win with most fans whatever moves they make.

We are thin at WR depth so they bring in Mims. Nothing but scoffs and barbs about the move. Monday morning QBs is one thing. This constant complaining is something else though.

I was surprised that Sutton and Edmunds weren't re-signed. Usually the Steelers try and keep their homegrown talent. Sutton could play inside or outside and the Steelers usually keep those types of players that can do multiple roles.

Edmunds seemed like he didn't want to be a Steeler so not much they could do. I wanted him to stay for selfish reasons. He went to Va Tech, my alma mater..

[Born2Steel]

I was surprised that Sutton and Edmunds weren't re-signed. Usually the Steelers try and keep their homegrown talent. Sutton could play inside or outside and the Steelers usually keep those types of players that can do multiple roles.

Edmunds seemed like he didn't want to be a Steeler so not much they could do. I wanted him to stay for selfish reasons. He went to Va Tech, my alma mater..

The Lions gave Sutton a 3yr/$33M contract with a $11M signing bonus and $22.5M guaranteed. The Steelers were not offering that, nor should they have. I liked Sutton from his draft and loved we got him. But he has not been a ‘blue chip’ defender and other guys needed to get paid. Unfortunately, we can’t give every player those type contracts.

Edmunds obviously just wanted out. Whatever his reasons he was finished here.

[pczach]

The Lions gave Sutton a 3yr/$33M contract with a $11M signing bonus and $22.5M guaranteed. The Steelers were not offering that, nor should they have. I liked Sutton from his draft and loved we got him. But he has not been a ‘blue chip’ defender and other guys needed to get paid. Unfortunately, we can’t give every player those type contracts.

Edmunds obviously just wanted out. Whatever his reasons he was finished here.

Sutton played at a very high level his last season here. He was getting better each season he played here....and ascending player. Sutton would have been the perfect CB to have, because he would have been able to play slot if needed with Porter here and maybe Trice getting time outside. Two phyiscal press corners with a real slot corner that can also play outside. I don't see a downside there. Besides, his contract would look like a bargain in four years.

They did pay other players...like Patrick Peterson. He got a 2-year $14 million contract. 7 mil a year for a 33 year old for two seasons.

Edmunds left because they offered him next to nothing the previous couple years when they didn't pick up his 5th year on his rookie deal. He played his last year for next to nothing. He wasn't doing it again and they pissed him off. The team was wrong about that as well because Minkah now has to play out of position because they no longer have the personnel to play as they did when Edmunds was here. Edmunds walked, and the SS position is weaker, and the FS position is weaker because Minkah is nowhere near the player he was in this role as he is as a single high S.

It's done, but what I just said is exactly what has happened.

[Born2Steel]

Sutton played at a very high level his last season here. He was getting better each season he played here....and ascending player. Sutton would have been the perfect CB to have, because he would have been able to play slot if needed with Porter here and maybe Trice getting time outside. Two phyiscal press corners with a real slot corner that can also play outside. I don't see a downside there. Besides, his contract would look like a bargain in four years.

They did pay other players...like Patrick Peterson. He got a 2-year $14 million contract. 7 mil a year for a 33 year old for two seasons.

Edmunds left because they offered him next to nothing the previous couple years when they didn't pick up his 5th year on his rookie deal. He played his last year for next to nothing. He wasn't doing it again and they pissed him off. The team was wrong about that as well because Minkah now has to play out of position because they no longer have the personnel to play as they did when Edmunds was here. Edmunds walked, and the SS position is weaker, and the FS position is weaker because Minkah is nowhere near the player he was in this role as he is as a single high S.

It's done, but what I just said is exactly what has happened.

A bargain in 4 years?

[pczach]

A bargain in 4 years?



The salary keeps going up, and his contract and salary cap hit would not look so terrible in 4 years.

You ask that like you think Peterson's contract at $7 million per is saving money?

[86WARD]

I think you are selling Ike Taylor short. He was a true shutdown corner in his prime in my opinion. He just had hands of stone and could not catch the ball to get interceptions. If he could have he would have been a consistent pro-bowl/all-pro player I think.

Ike Taylor was pretty close to a shut down corner with bad hands.

[Born2Steel]

The salary keeps going up, and his contract and salary cap hit would not look so terrible in 4 years.

You ask that like you think Peterson's contract at $7 million per is saving money?

I didn't even bring up Peterson's contract. I showed what the Lions paid Sutton to also show that the Steelers were not going to pay that. That is why he left, not because the Steelers just let him walk. I'm sure they made him an offer to keep him. They were paying him $4.5M/yr before that. The Lions just came in with a better offer.

[pczach]

I didn't even bring up Peterson's contract. I showed what the Lions paid Sutton to also show that the Steelers were not going to pay that. That is why he left, not because the Steelers just let him walk. I'm sure they made him an offer to keep him. They were paying him $4.5M/yr before that. The Lions just came in with a better offer.

I'm comparing paying Peterson $7 mil a year compared to paying Cam Sutton $11 mil a year as a much younger player. I don't see how anyone can't bring up Peterson's contract when talking about Sutton. Peterson is basically replacing him for only $4 million less per season.

I'm saying the Steelers should have paid Sutton instead of paying Peterson. I said it when Sutton left and they signed Peterson.

I already knew and posted here that Peterson was no longer a man coverage corner. He was used mostly as a zone corner because that was all he could do effectively. They then draft Porter and Trice. Two big, physical press man cover corners that they plan to work in along with a 33 year old that can't play man? It never made sense to me.

That's why I believe they should have paid Sutton the money. It was a better fit, and I still think Sutton would have still been a good player in four seasons at 32 years old at what will be a reasonable number per inflation. That's all.

[Born2Steel]

Because I was responding to Tubes post.

[steelreserve]

I'm comparing paying Peterson $7 mil a year compared to paying Cam Sutton $11 mil a year as a much younger player. I don't see how anyone can't bring up Peterson's contract when talking about Sutton. Peterson is basically replacing him for only $4 million less per season.

I'm saying the Steelers should have paid Sutton instead of paying Peterson. I said it when Sutton left and they signed Peterson.

I already knew and posted here that Peterson was no longer a man coverage corner. He was used mostly as a zone corner because that was all he could do effectively. They then draft Porter and Trice. Two big, physical press man cover corners that they plan to work in along with a 33 year old that can't play man? It never made sense to me.

That's why I believe they should have paid Sutton the money. It was a better fit, and I still think Sutton would have still been a good player in four seasons at 32 years old at what will be a reasonable number per inflation. That's all.

If you want to to talk about money, how about the $8 million a season (possibly up to $11M with incentives) that we're paying a certain backup quarterback? Remember when some of us kept saying we could have used that money to sign a decent player somewhere else on the roster, and then a whole bunch of other people were like - pffft, it doesn't matter! What a riot.

[Born2Steel]

I wasn’t there so I can only speculate. I don’t think the Steelers were going to pay $11M/year to any CB this past offseason.
They were paying Sutton $4.5M/yr and, just for conversation, let’s say they offered $7M for him to stay. Sutton responded that the Lions were offering $11M/yr. The Steelers said good luck to you in Detroit. Then offered Peterson $7M/yr and he agreed to that. You could have the opinion that Sutton at $11M is the better deal over Peterson at $7M, but there is nothing in the careers of Sutton and Peterson that backs that up.

I do not see any correlation or significance other than what the Steelers were willing to pay the position. Had Peterson said he wanted $11M/yr I doubt he would have been signed. Had Sutton agreed to $7M/yr I think he would still be a Steeler. But again, I wasn’t there. Only speculation.

[pczach]

If you want to to talk about money, how about the $8 million a season (possibly up to $11M with incentives) that we're paying a certain backup quarterback? Remember when some of us kept saying we could have used that money to sign a decent player somewhere else on the roster, and then a whole bunch of other people were like - pffft, it doesn't matter! What a riot.



I understood why they wanted Mitch Trubisky to be around and I was ok with it, but I said at the time if they could sign a big free agent or keep a quality player, that would have a bigger impact on helping the team than a quarterback that would hopefully not even play.

[El Kabong]

I understood why they wanted Mitch Trubisky to be around and I was ok with it, but I said at the time if they could sign a big free agent or keep a quality player, that would have a bigger impact on helping the team than a quarterback that would hopefully not even play.
When they signed Trubisky it was before the draft. I'm sure they planned to draft a QB in round 1, but they couldn't have known who would be available when it was their turn to pick and so had to cover their bases by signing a free agent QB. Well, unless they wanted to risk Mason being their starter last year.

[pczach]

When they signed Trubisky it was before the draft. I'm sure they planned to draft a QB in round 1, but they couldn't have known who would be available when it was their turn to pick and so had to cover their bases by signing a free agent QB. Well, unless they wanted to risk Mason being their starter last year.



Steelreserve meant after they drafted Pickett they could have released or traded Trubisky at the end of last season so they would have more money to sign players.