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teegre
10-20-2022, 09:02 PM
Reports are out there that the Packers are “all in” on Chase Claypool. What would you “accept” in compensation?… and WHY???



Give me Elgton Jenkins.

He’s young. He’s good. He wants a new contract, and the Packers aren’t willing to negotiate.

DuckHodges
10-20-2022, 09:04 PM
I honestly don't like any trade for him right now. He's a solid #3 WR and you don't trade a starting WR when you have a rookie QB that's trying to gel with his offense.

We don't have anyone proven behind him. Boykin is more likely to be the next Donte Moncrief than anything special, and CAIII although talented, has no NFL experience and will have his own learning curve to deal with.

Unless it's a ridiculous offer, I'm saying Chase stays here. I'd say first round pick or tell them to bugger off :chuckle: Seriously, they're asking for one of our starters still on a rookie contract, it had better be a good offer.

86WARD
10-20-2022, 09:13 PM
I wouldn’t trade him. It would be a bad move. Going into next season you have Johnson and Pickens and then garbage….lots of garbage…

that1guy
10-20-2022, 09:38 PM
The Steelers NEED offensive line help, the Packers would have to offer the equivalent to a Starting O linemen before the Steelers should make a move

Mojouw
10-20-2022, 09:50 PM
Jenkins has looked far less than good of the Pack


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Dwinsgames
10-21-2022, 06:24 AM
I would take no less than Original round selection .. that is a 2nd ...

he has shown flashes of potential greatness but his rookie year is a few years in the rear view ...

that said if they are hell bent on having him they have to pony up ...

I want picks not players no need to bring in guys already discontent and I would much prefer to select our own misfits and giving Omar more capital to put his mark on the team would be a good thing so we know right out of the gate what he is made of personnel wise

Born2Steel
10-21-2022, 08:15 AM
I would be willing to trade Claypool for a 2nd and 4th. At the least.(Also happy to keep him, but talking trade value)

1. It's a seller's market.
2. I doubt we are planning to extend him anyway.

EzraTank
10-21-2022, 09:54 AM
The Packers offensive line isn't very good either. I'm not worried about losing Claypool if Calvin Austin is the real deal, plus we are very good at drafting receivers anyhow. But the problem is no one knows when or if Austin is going to play ...

https://www.steelernation.com/steelers-sizzling-austin-may-be-lost-for-yr/

86WARD
10-21-2022, 04:43 PM
you're going from a big guy to a smurf and a smurf that you don't know if he will translate to the NFL. I can't get behind that "talent-for-talent" swap...

Lady Steel
10-21-2022, 07:28 PM
I would trade Claypool for a salted caramel latte right now. :giggles:

Seriously, I voted not to trade him, We need him right now, in my opinion.

steelreserve
10-21-2022, 08:58 PM
Our other choices are lose him for nothing next year, or overpay him next year, and so far he definitely does not look worth it. No sense pouring more money into the WR position.

If the Packers really want him that bad though, make them pay, try to get a R2. Unless we think this is a team in contention and he's an indispensible piece to make our run. So no.

Also don't give me that shit about b-b-but we'll get a R3 comp pick if he leaves as a free agent. No we won't. That's never how it works, forget it.

DesertSteel
10-21-2022, 09:12 PM
Our other choices are lose him for nothing next year

29 more games to be exact, and then we get a comp pick. So it's not quite as bleak as "losing him for nothing next year."

86WARD
10-21-2022, 09:22 PM
Our other choices are lose him for nothing next year, or overpay him next year, and so far he definitely does not look worth it. No sense pouring more money into the WR position.

If the Packers really want him that bad though, make them pay, try to get a R2. Unless we think this is a team in contention and he's an indispensible piece to make our run. So no.

Also don't give me that shit about b-b-but we'll get a R3 comp pick if he leaves as a free agent. No we won't. That's never how it works, forget it.

When have the Steelers EVER worried about “losing someone next year”? It’s not a thing…

Dwinsgames
10-22-2022, 07:36 AM
don't stand around thinking we get a 3rd round comp pick cause so many factors come into play on what round a comp ( if any) a team gets ....

How much did he sign for and how long?

How big of a piece was he to the team he signed with ( playing time and production)?

Did he receive post season honors?

Who did YOU sign?

How much did you spend?

etc etc etc ....

so yes you could get a 3rd round pick (max) in return , you could just as easily get a 5th round pick or nothing at all ...

its a Bird in the hand 2 in the bush scenario for me if you get an offer that you feel is worth it to you to make a move and the player isnt going to impact your seasons outcome that dramatically (if in playoff contention) unless said player is the face of the franchise and a building block to your future ( he once may have been looked upon like that but no longer) then you make the corresponding more if those stars line up ....

86WARD
10-22-2022, 08:08 AM
Again. Cut your nose to spite your face. People wanted to trade DJ and that would’ve left them with Pickens and Claypool and a bunch of garbage. Now people want to trade Claypool. You’re left with Pickens and Johnson and a bunch of garbage and a rookie QB. Supposed to try to get weapons for your QB not give them away.

steelreserve
10-22-2022, 11:20 AM
29 more games to be exact, and then we get a comp pick. So it's not quite as bleak as "losing him for nothing next year."

Never, EVER count on getting a comp pick. Any specific player is just one drop in the tide of players that come and go every year. If we sign any decent (or semi-expensive) free agent - no comp pick. It may indeed be that we get nothing.



When have the Steelers EVER worried about “losing someone next year”? It’s not a thing…

They're not "worried about" it, which is why probably nothing will happen, but if someone makes you an offer that's better than what you'd get otherwise, you'd be smart to consider it.

As it is, all I can see happening with Claypool is that he plays another season where he makes a couple brilliant catches per month and disappears otherwise, and then at the end of that, he leaves. He'll want to be paid based on his best circus catches, a more realistic interpretation is that he's an inconsistent #2 or #3 receiver, some other team will pay him anyway based on "potential," and that'll be that.

I just don't see another outcome than that, unless his play on the field suddenly and drastically changes. Say what you want, I'd rather take a good return for him now and start over than bet on him suddenly "getting it" based on no reason whatsoever. I know, I know, you're so glad I'm not the one running the team. We've all heard.

Steeler-in-west
10-22-2022, 11:41 AM
No

i like a three receiver set of Pickens, Claypool and DJ (or CAIII) strong receiver group is needed for a rookie QB - don’t dilute it.

Orion
10-22-2022, 02:55 PM
they need claypool for the superbowl run they about to go on ..:lol:
if they looked like a contender and claypool was part of the reason why , noway would i trade him. if im being generous i'd say this is an 8 win team AT BEST. give next years new offensive new "clay" from the receiver pool to mold. (see what i did there :boink:)

Steeler-in-west
10-22-2022, 03:39 PM
they need claypool for the superbowl run they about to go on ..:lol:
if they looked like a contender and claypool was part of the reason why , noway would i trade him. if im being generous i'd say this is an 8 win team AT BEST. give next years new offensive new "clay" from the receiver pool to mold. (see what i did there :boink:)

he could be the reason why in a year or two. I would say he’s valuable enough so you don’t give him away. A team has to make the Steelers part with him. Big receivers with speed and decent hands are valuable. I’d rather have two bigs and one DJ or CAIII

That being said starting caliber o lineman or a r2 pick

ALLD
10-23-2022, 08:50 AM
Trade him for Aaron Rogers.

Born2Steel
10-23-2022, 09:16 AM
One old saying that I like to use from time to time is, 'everything I own is for sale for the right price'. Which basically means I'm not trying to get rid of Chase but if an offer comes along that I just can't walk away from, make the deal. For me, I would want that to be at least a 2nd and a 4th in this year's draft. Something from next year's draft. Let the talks start there.

Just talking trade value here. Chase is still very young. He's 24 and is under rookie contract through 2023. His play has been inconsistent from week to week but so has the play of the QB and others around him. Looking at the Steelers' offense only and Chase is probably more valued by a contender needing a pass catcher than by the Steelers, IMO. He could make a difference on a good offense, where he's simply just another moving part on our struggling offense.

Don't throw him away, but if the value is there, make the trade.


Also, for those that keep saying trade him for an OL consider this: The NFL is starved for quality OL right now. There is very little to zero chance any team is trading away a starter caliber lineman for a 2nd/3rd WR.

teegre
10-23-2022, 12:45 PM
Jenkins has looked far less than good of the Pack

Is that due to him switching to RT?

He was pretty good at LG.

DuckHodges
10-23-2022, 12:46 PM
Trade him for Aaron Rogers.

Rodgers is shot and probably has early signs of dementia lol. This is the year the old guard is passing the torch. Rodgers and Brady are both not looking the same and it's likely time to hang it up for them both

Mojouw
10-23-2022, 01:25 PM
Is that due to him switching to RT?

He was pretty good at LG.

I think he has played both tackle spots and he just might not be a tackle. But he And seemingly the entire Packers line is just making a ton of mental mistakes as well. So there's something more to it. But, right now, I am not sure that Jenkins is much better shakes than what is currently on the Steelers roster.

I don't think he's a LT. Not sure he's much better than Chuks as a RT and Daniels and Dotson already have the role of "underperforming guard" on lockdown.

Lloydwoodsonjr
10-23-2022, 01:34 PM
Claypool and Rodgers have a similar vibe. Probably be BFFs and drink pumpkin spice lattés and watch Ryan Reynolds movies.

Lady Steel
10-23-2022, 03:56 PM
I like Ryan Reynolds movies, but pumpkin spice lattes? No.

Aaron Rodgers? Ew, no!

Edman
10-23-2022, 04:30 PM
This was exactly how it played out for Ben last season. We asked questions what was wrong, when the truth was he was finished. The Steelers were able to scrape out wins and send him out on a good note, but he was done. Brady and Rodgers are getting the same thing this year.

Brady was able to cheat it for longer than usual, but Father Time is undefeated and he doesn't play around. He strikes without warning.

pczach
10-26-2022, 08:41 PM
If this article about Diontae Johnson is true......what a disaster.

https://www.steelernation.com/steelers-toxic-johnson-not-interested-in-wr1/

DesertSteel
10-26-2022, 08:54 PM
If this article about Diontae Johnson is true......what a disaster.

https://www.steelernation.com/steelers-toxic-johnson-not-interested-in-wr1/
If what part is true? Seems to be just some amateur blogger’s opinion. I’m not saying I disagree with all of it. But he didn’t present much “factual” info that could be seen as true of false.

Dwinsgames
10-26-2022, 08:55 PM
If this article about Diontae Johnson is true......what a disaster.

https://www.steelernation.com/steelers-toxic-johnson-not-interested-in-wr1/

color me not surprised ... never been a big fan anyways but damn ...

want to impress me make the biggest plays in the biggest moments Johnson does the opposite

steelreserve
10-26-2022, 09:01 PM
If this article about Diontae Johnson is true......what a disaster.

https://www.steelernation.com/steelers-toxic-johnson-not-interested-in-wr1/

Yeah, this is why it's dumb to throw money at "maybe" players because "who else do we have." When does "who else do we have" ever work out in our favor?

What'd I say in the preseason? Why are we paying this guy when we just drafted two WRs, including one who ought to be a #1? We have a whole year, why not wait and see.

Oh no no no no no, everybody else is definitely going to be hot garbage, you can't go into the season like that, we MUST have Johnson locked in long-term, so glad you aren't the GM. Johnson has Experience and Stability, are you just gonna leave a rookie QB with Pickens as his main weapon (even though DJ is still under contract)???? So glad you aren't the GM.

Yeah, that's sure looking brilliant. Never gonna get the egg off my face from that one.

DesertSteel
10-26-2022, 09:25 PM
DJ is a good WR2. He just needs a real QB1 throwing him the ball.

86WARD
10-27-2022, 05:29 AM
If this article about Diontae Johnson is true......what a disaster.

https://www.steelernation.com/steelers-toxic-johnson-not-interested-in-wr1/

I’m not seeing the disaster part? He just seems like a typical overpaid WR that’s getting frustrated with the offense and target share.

This is the kind of stuff that happens when you’re a loser franchise…

Mojouw
10-27-2022, 08:14 AM
I’m not seeing the disaster part? He just seems like a typical overpaid WR that’s getting frustrated with the offense and target share.

This is the kind of stuff that happens when you’re a loser franchise…

If people found out that Heyward had punched Reed in the head and told him he sucks and should retire, they’d wanna throw a parade.

But it’s a mouthy WR, so here we go with the toxic narrative.

EzraTank
10-27-2022, 08:48 AM
DJ is a good WR2. He just needs a real QB1 throwing him the ball.

He's not even that. He's got a lighter version of AB's attitude with a much lighter version of his skills. It was easy to look the other way when AB was driving 100 mph, throwing couches off balconies, misplacing $80K in cash because he was catching everything thrown his way with his helmet, hands, feet and scoring TD's. DJ is doing none of that but somehow his mouth thinks he can write checks his body can't cash (love Top Gun).

Yes he has a rookie QB and a non existent offensive coordinator, but for someone cashing a check that big he needs to keep his mouth shut and work harder.

DesertSteel
10-27-2022, 11:44 AM
He's not even that. He's got a lighter version of AB's attitude with a much lighter version of his skills. It was easy to look the other way when AB was driving 100 mph, throwing couches off balconies, misplacing $80K in cash because he was catching everything thrown his way with his helmet, hands, feet and scoring TD's. DJ is doing none of that but somehow his mouth thinks he can write checks his body can't cash (love Top Gun).

Yes he has a rookie QB and a non existent offensive coordinator, but for someone cashing a check that big he needs to keep his mouth shut and work harder.


I realize he's this week's whipping boy, but he's a 2 by anyone's measurement.

Steeler-in-west
10-27-2022, 01:15 PM
DJ is a good WR2. He just needs a real QB1 throwing him the ball.

KP is a real QB1, he’s just in his rookie season, if you mean a QB1 on a contender then trade him, but the Steelers should get something of equal potential in return, I see Claypool flourishing like Juju with a Mahomes or Allen or Burrow, so Steelers should get a decent return if he’s traded

EzraTank
10-27-2022, 01:21 PM
KP is a real QB1, he’s just in his rookie season, if you mean a QB1 on a contender then trade him, but the Steelers should get something of equal potential in return, I see Claypool flourishing like Juju with a Mahomes or Allen or Burrow, so Steelers should get a decent return if he’s traded

Pickett needs a real offensive coordinator and a good QB coach. Most experienced offensive coordinators will know the limits of their rookie QB and design an offense for them. And as the QB grows so will the offense.

Pickett has NONE of these right now and having childish receiver like DJ in the locker room doesn't help.

Steeler-in-west
10-27-2022, 01:29 PM
Pickett needs a real offensive coordinator and a good QB coach. Most experienced offensive coordinators will know the limits of their rookie QB and design an offense for them. And as the QB grows so will the offense.

Pickett has NONE of these right now and having childish receiver like DJ in the locker room doesn't help.

agree, an OC and QB are top priority, if the Rooney’s want to be successful they should shell out the bucks to get the best OC and QB coach available. Just saying they should know the real value of guys like Claypool (who’s also hampered by the system) and make a smart trade to help the offense (if they make a trade).

i think they have the QB1 already