Did Pickett Do Enough Today to Earn Your Confidence?

[Craic]

Unfortunately, CBS switched to another game after Boswell missed the field goal in the third quarter and this post is what I've seen up to that point.

That said, if I had to award Pickett a grade today, I'd give him a B. Most of his throws were good. He missed a couple of guys who where open and threw to someone else. He also threw one or two bad throws (the INT was one of them). However, for his first full game as an NFL QB, I thought he played pretty well. His throws were quick and decisive. He hung in the pocket when he could. And, more than anything else, he knew how to be aggressive without being stupidly aggressive.

Going forward, I'd like to see him become a little more consistent in making the right read. I'd also like to see him put the ball in the end zone through the air. These aren't complaints about Pickett, just the next goals I'd like to see him reach if he is on his way to becoming a long-term solution at QB.

In the end, he hasn't done enough to earn my confidence but he has done enough to give me hope. (A perfect game a la cheating-mid-career-Brady still wouldn't have earned my confidence as I'd want to several games before I could say anything like that.)

[polamalubeast]

He was good.He will need more help too

[Edman]

The Steelers approached this game hoping he wouldn't be overwhelmed, when that was far from the case and it cost them. He didn't fold.

Pickett looked like he belonged and is only going to get better.

[DuckHodges]

He looks good honestly in his first action vs a SB contender on the road. The rest of the team looks like trash though.

[pepsyman1]

Again, I don't think the QB is the problem with the offense. I think this OC would make Brady look bad. Pickett DOES look poised and at ease playing. I was in the camp of letting him sit and watch for most of the season, but at this point he's in and he should stay in. He appears mentally strong enough to deal with the shit show that this offense currently is.

[The Bark]

His stats would look a lot better without all these dropped balls. Never seen a QB hit his receivers in the hands the last six quarters and have incompletions.

[tube517]

He looked good not perfect. He is a rookie so I want to see him with a real OC and more OL help for the running game.


Also his receivers not named Pickens or Muth are soft or make mental errors that should be eliminated by now.

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[Lady Steel]

I have hope and confidence. Kenny is our future.

[86WARD]

Yes. He appears to have everything except a Josh Allen arm. Which is fine. His accuracy is ridiculous and that is more important.

He’s better than Sam Howell.

[EzraTank]

I was happy with watching both the Picks (Pickett and Pickens). They both played great today and played with swagger. It's a shame the rest of the team didn't.

[steelcityboyz]

I think Kenny is the future for sure I liked alot of things he did. He NEEDS 2 recievers to start helping him by catching balls.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Considering Kenny was up against the #1 defense, had zero run game, zero favors from our defense playing with a 31 point deficit at halftime, and nonstop dropped balls from Diontae and Claypool, yeah I'd say Kenny did a pretty good job. Threw pretty well under pressure the vast majority of the time and looked unfazed taking licks in the process. The interception was bad but Kenny had a very even performance today.

The one thing about his performance today that raised a few eyebrows for me is he had probably 4-5 passes inside of 10 yards that were REALLY low for no reason. Like literally no defenders around. Some of those may have been because he was on the run a bit but I'm encouraged that this is what Kenny can do with everything around him going wrong in his very 1st start.


I feel really confident that we're 3-1 if Kenny started from the get-go. That said I still think we go into the bye 1-7, and put together a string of wins to finish with 6-7 wins for the season

[DuckHodges]

Miami looks less than impressive without Tua. He may be out for an extended time, there's a chance to pull a W there.

[polamalubeast]

Miami looks less than impressive without Tua. He may be out for an extended time, there's a chance to pull a W there.

The dolphins were with their 3rd QB today...If this is the case again against us,maybe we will win this game even if our defense is depleted

[Craic]

The dolphins were with their 3rd QB today...If this is the case again against us,maybe we will win this game even if our defense is depleted

If we can get up by a couple of TDs I'd say to put Rudolph in and let him score a TD as well. Then, after the game, see if we can steal a third or four round pick from them in their desperation. We laugh and say nope, that wouldn't happen. Maybe not, they're not the Raiders and Colbert has retired. But it's still fun to hope.

[Buckinnuts]

Thought he looked really good ...too many dropped passes...considering our line against a great defense....

[Jens_Karlsson]

Yes

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[RunNGun]

He's extremely accurate and fearless. I like what I saw out of KP. Even know the offense failed to put up points they showed an ability, for the first time all season, to push the ball down the field and that is credited to KP.

I still don't believe this team is in a good place. With the injuries and the strength of schedule...we may very well have the #1 pick overall. It's sad that it might be time to start discussing who we like at picks #1-5.

Najee Harris is looking like a miss and that was a costly one if he is in fact not the talent they thought. He did look banged up, but someone compared him to Benny Snell in the game day thread and that is accurate

[Craic]

He's extremely accurate and fearless. I like what I saw out of KP. Even know the offense failed to put up points they showed an ability, for the first time all season, to push the ball down the field and that is credited to KP.

I still don't believe this team is in a good place. With the injuries and the strength of schedule...we may very well have the #1 pick overall. It's sad that it might be time to start discussing who we like at picks #1-5.

Najee Harris is looking like a miss and that was a costly one if he is in fact not the talent they thought. He did look banged up, but someone compared him to Benny Snell in the game day thread and that is accurate

As someone else mentioned, he looked like he threw a couple low balls or balls behind one or two receivers. But overall I do like his accuracy. No one is perfect 100 percent of the time, and especially with as little work as he has had with the receivers. In the back of my mind, however, there's a small concern that he will make a rookie mistake and be fearless in a place where he should have shown a bit more caution. Here, I'm thinking more about his health. But that, like everything else, is something that will be honed with time.

It'll be interesting at the end of the year if we end up with a 1-5 pick and Pickett hasn't developed much more than we see right now. Granted, there's no reason to think he won't. I'm just thinking about the handwringing that'll happen and the comparisons of keeping Malone over drafting Marino (although that was a three year difference and Malone didn't show as much talent as Pickett has).

As for Harris, I don't know. There are people I respect who have spoke about his talent. So it makes me wonder what's up. Something is definitely wrong. Most likely he's pushing through injury.

[86WARD]

Criticizing the low balls? Come on…Allen threw some low balls today. Jalen Hurts just threw a low ball. They all do that…Christ, Donovan McNabb made a career out of it…lol

[Craic]

Criticizing the low balls? Come on…Allen threw some low balls today. Jalen Hurts just threw a low ball. They all do that…Christ, Donovan McNabb made a career out of it…lol

Criticize. "To find fault with." No.
Criticize. "To consider the merits and demerits of and judge accordingly. Evaluate." Yes.

There's nothing wrong with noting a few things a QB or anyone else can do better. If you think I'm using that to discount him, I'd ask you to read the rest of that post and my other posts in this thread about him.

[dislocatedday]

He's extremely accurate and fearless. I like what I saw out of KP. Even know the offense failed to put up points they showed an ability, for the first time all season, to push the ball down the field and that is credited to KP.

I still don't believe this team is in a good place. With the injuries and the strength of schedule...we may very well have the #1 pick overall. It's sad that it might be time to start discussing who we like at picks #1-5.

Najee Harris is looking like a miss and that was a costly one if he is in fact not the talent they thought. He did look banged up, but someone compared him to Benny Snell in the game day thread and that is accurate

If the Steelers somehow end up with the first overall pick, and Pickett still looks like the promising QB at the end of the year, then the Steelers should trade the #1 pick overall to the highest bidder as I am sure there will be a few teams who would like that pick to take a QB ( CJ STroud I assume).

[NCSteeler]

Thought he looked really good ...too many dropped passes...considering our line against a great defense....I didn't see the game but the stats say Diontae had another dropping game.

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[86WARD]

Criticize. "To find fault with." No.
Criticize. "To consider the merits and demerits of and judge accordingly. Evaluate." Yes.

There's nothing wrong with noting a few things a QB or anyone else can do better. If you think I'm using that to discount him, I'd ask you to read the rest of that post and my other posts in this thread about him.

I’m not singling you out…but there’s people on here that are using that as the criticism to find fault with…

[Craic]

I’m not singling you out…but there’s people on here that are using that as the criticism to find fault with…

Ahh.

Okay. Because, overall I really liked what I saw and I have high hopes for the kid. He has a few things to work on and that's one of them, but it's not a big red flag. Just something that will help him and the team going forward, in my opinion.

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If the Steelers somehow end up with the first overall pick, and Pickett still looks like the promising QB at the end of the year, then the Steelers should trade the #1 pick overall to the highest bidder as I am sure there will be a few teams who would like that pick to take a QB ( CJ STroud I assume).
Or even trade for a lower first this year and a first round pick next year. That gives us another year of observation on Pickett and let's us bundle two first round picks if we decide we need another QB. If not, we get two first round picks to plug holes.

[fansince'76]

I'm in the hope but not confidence (yet) camp. As a long time Steelers fan, I've seen a lot of "fool's gold" at the QB position.

[Craic]

I'm in the hope but not confidence (yet) camp. As a long time Steelers fan, I've seen a lot of "fool's gold" at the QB position.

Yep, as originally noted, that's pretty much where I fall.

[Mojouw]

I'm in the hope but not confidence (yet) camp. As a long time Steelers fan, I've seen a lot of "fool's gold" at the QB position.

An entirely reasonable place to be. Huh. Imagine that. A reasonable response on the internet. That’s not what we’re here for.

[teegre]

Yes

The kid has "it".

[Rotorhead]

I see a young good QB. He can make the throws and has good instincts. What remains to be seen is if this is his ceiling, or does he get better. At this time, he is Alex Smith, good but not going to carry a team. Will get you wins with an above average supporting cast, but won’t make the players around him into stars. This is a great starting point, but can he become a top tier? We will see. His biggest assets are his accuracy and decision making. He doesn’t have an elite arm, but it is good enough. Now he just needs to learn.

[Psycho Ward 86]

I see a young good QB. He can make the throws and has good instincts. What remains to be seen is if this is his ceiling, or does he get better. At this time, he is Alex Smith, good but not going to carry a team. Will get you wins with an above average supporting cast, but won’t make the players around him into stars. This is a great starting point, but can he become a top tier? We will see. His biggest assets are his accuracy and decision making. He doesn’t have an elite arm, but it is good enough. Now he just needs to learn.

Might be the most accurate comparison ive seen so far

[DuckHodges]

Might be the most accurate comparison ive seen so far

He's got a stronger arm than Smith, but I see the similarities . They're both smart and quick decision makers, with mobility

[Craic]

I see a young good QB. He can make the throws and has good instincts. What remains to be seen is if this is his ceiling, or does he get better. At this time, he is Alex Smith, good but not going to carry a team. Will get you wins with an above average supporting cast, but won’t make the players around him into stars. This is a great starting point, but can he become a top tier? We will see. His biggest assets are his accuracy and decision making. He doesn’t have an elite arm, but it is good enough. Now he just needs to learn.
As others have said, this is a pretty good assessment. I really like the part about whether this is his ceiling and that as of right now, he can't carry a team/make players into stars but is still a good QB. I think that's right on. Hopefully, we'll know sooner rather than later if he can carry a team (and I have hopes that answer is yes).

[DuckHodges]

As others have said, this is a pretty good assessment. I really like the part about whether this is his ceiling and that as of right now, he can't carry a team/make players into stars but is still a good QB. I think that's right on. Hopefully, we'll know sooner rather than later if he can carry a team (and I have hopes that answer is yes).

I don't think Brady could carry this team. As successful as he is, he's NEVER had a squad with a bad defense.

[Mojouw]

Question:

What is the response to the counter-argument that Pickett only had 121 yards in the first half and 30 of those were on an amazing catch by Pickens. So it could have been 91 yards, a pick, and the one highlight I saw an ugly cross body throw into a bunch of hands that could/should been picked.

I realize that a great deal of that likely had to do with Canada but still....that is a rugged stat line for the first half...and then a bunch of yards in the second half of a blowout with some clips showing some serious sagged off coverages.....so hopeful but not confident?

Again, I only saw a drive here and a drive there. Trying to piece it all together.

[DesertSteel]

Question:

What is the response to the counter-argument that Pickett only had 121 yards in the first half and 30 of those were on an amazing catch by Pickens. So it could have been 91 yards, a pick, and the one highlight I saw an ugly cross body throw into a bunch of hands that could/should been picked.

I realize that a great deal of that likely had to do with Canada but still....that is a rugged stat line for the first half...and then a bunch of yards in the second half of a blowout with some clips showing some serious sagged off coverages.....so hopeful but not confident?

Again, I only saw a drive here and a drive there. Trying to piece it all together.
Why is your watching situation always so bad? Is it the TV market or what?

[Psycho Ward 86]

Question:

What is the response to the counter-argument that Pickett only had 121 yards in the first half and 30 of those were on an amazing catch by Pickens. So it could have been 91 yards, a pick, and the one highlight I saw an ugly cross body throw into a bunch of hands that could/should been picked.

I realize that a great deal of that likely had to do with Canada but still....that is a rugged stat line for the first half...and then a bunch of yards in the second half of a blowout with some clips showing some serious sagged off coverages.....so hopeful but not confident?

Again, I only saw a drive here and a drive there. Trying to piece it all together.

Counter-argument is the multitude of drops by Claypool and Diontae that routinely killed our drives (what a broken record) especially as we were driving in enemy territory. That more than diminishes the wow factor/"Pickens made Pickett look good" narrative on the other side. Also despite Canada's insistence on going run-run-pass over and over again, Kenny ended up converting many 3rd and longs and standing tough in the pocket while doing it. I really dont think any QB would have looked good back there on Sunday unless you're top tier

[86WARD]

Question:

What is the response to the counter-argument that Pickett only had 121 yards in the first half and 30 of those were on an amazing catch by Pickens. So it could have been 91 yards, a pick, and the one highlight I saw an ugly cross body throw into a bunch of hands that could/should been picked.

I realize that a great deal of that likely had to do with Canada but still....that is a rugged stat line for the first half...and then a bunch of yards in the second half of a blowout with some clips showing some serious sagged off coverages.....so hopeful but not confident?

Again, I only saw a drive here and a drive there. Trying to piece it all together.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/kgEeS3motMqpW/giphy.gif

[Mojouw]

Why is your watching situation always so bad? Is it the TV market or what?

I am out of market. No cable. And I work multiple jobs plus a family. It’s rare I get to sit and watch an entire game anymore. And when I do it’s on pirate internet streams for the most part.

[Mojouw]

Counter-argument is the multitude of drops by Claypool and Diontae that routinely killed our drives (what a broken record) especially as we were driving in enemy territory. That more than diminishes the wow factor/"Pickens made Pickett look good" narrative on the other side. Also despite Canada's insistence on going run-run-pass over and over again, Kenny ended up converting many 3rd and longs and standing tough in the pocket while doing it. I really dont think any QB would have looked good back there on Sunday unless you're top tier

Seems fair.

And just to be clear, this isn’t just MojoUW making this up to be a jerk.

Majority of the non Steelers fan site reports are all some version of Pickett looked meh at best with 2 quarters of garbage time buoying the stats.

So that’s why I’ve asked.

[RunNGun]

Seems fair.

And just to be clear, this isn’t just MojoUW making this up to be a jerk.

Majority of the non Steelers fan site reports are all some version of Pickett looked meh at best with 2 quarters of garbage time buoying the stats.

So that’s why I’ve asked.

Kenny Pickett played as well as he possibly could. Sure, he made a few mistakes, but like everyone knows...that's expected. One thing is a 100% certain...Kenny Pickett is an immediate upgrade over Mitchell Trubisky. There was nothing meh about it. He was making the right reads, pushing the ball down the field, and taking care of the football. This is not bias opinion...KP looks the part.

[DuckHodges]

Seems fair.

And just to be clear, this isn’t just MojoUW making this up to be a jerk.

Majority of the non Steelers fan site reports are all some version of Pickett looked meh at best with 2 quarters of garbage time buoying the stats.

So that’s why I’ve asked.

majority of fan sites cater to casuals who switch teams every 5 years and think that anyone who can’t throw the ball as far as Allen or run as fast as Lamar are lacking talent

[Mojouw]

majority of fan sites cater to casuals who switch teams every 5 years and think that anyone who can’t throw the ball as far as Allen or run as fast as Lamar are lacking talent

I was not clear.

Only Steelers oriented sites are positive.

The other outlets I typically cruise through on Mondays are universally negative.

[pczach]

Seems fair.

And just to be clear, this isn’t just MojoUW making this up to be a jerk.

Majority of the non Steelers fan site reports are all some version of Pickett looked meh at best with 2 quarters of garbage time buoying the stats.

So that’s why I’ve asked.




I guess the simplest way to explain it is this. How many rookies starting their first game, on the road, against probably the best team in the NFL, in 20 mph wind, incredible crowd noise which made it hard to communicate, with a shit show going on around him.......managed to complete 65% of their passes and throw for 327 yards?

He also fought to the final down with everything he had, literally and figuratively. I was impressed.

[RunNGun]

I guess the simplest way to explain it is this. How many rookies starting their first game, on the road, against probably the best team in the NFL, in 20 mph wind, incredible crowd noise which made it hard to communicate, with a shit show going on around him.......managed to complete 65% of their passes and throw for 327 yards?

He also fought to the final down with everything he had, literally and figuratively. I was impressed.

You forgot one...no running game to work with whatsoever.

[pczach]

You forgot one...no running game to work with whatsoever.



My bad! :grin:

[DesertSteel]

I am out of market. No cable. And I work multiple jobs plus a family. It’s rare I get to sit and watch an entire game anymore. And when I do it’s on pirate internet streams for the most part.
That's tough. For me, the best and most affordable plan is NFL Game Pass, which is now NFL+. You get every game 10 minutes after it's over, including a condensed and an all-22 later. I think their pricing has dropped to only $79 annually.

[Mojouw]

That's tough. For me, the best and most affordable plan is NFL Game Pass, which is now NFL+. You get every game 10 minutes after it's over, including a condensed and an all-22 later. I think their pricing has dropped to only $79 annually.

I might look into that. Right now, my days of watching every game and a ton of non Steelers games are over.

See how the next month or so goes.

[dislocatedday]

I went back and re-watched the game again to watch Pickett even more closely, and while I felt great about him right after the game Sunday, I feel even better about him now. I don't profess to be an expert on playing the QB position, but it does appear Pickett goes through his reads quickly, is able to move in or out of the pocket comfortably while keeping his eyes downfield, and is very accurate with his ball placement on his passes. I mentioned before that he runs faster than I thought, but his arm strength also looked even better than I thought as well. I certainly do not see indications yet that arm strength is going be an achilles heel for him, but obviously KP is still in his NFL infancy and it is way too early to make clear judgements about his ability.

As odd as this may sound, and I have only watched significant parts of a few Jacksonville Jaguars games the last couple years, Pickett has already shown more to me in 6 quarters than what I have seen from Trevor Lawrence since he entered the NFL......and Lawrence was proclaimed to be the biggest can't miss QB prospect since Andrew Luck.

[DuckHodges]

I went back and re-watched the game again to watch Pickett even more closely, and while I felt great about him right after the game Sunday, I feel even better about him now. I don't profess to be an expert on playing the QB position, but it does appear Pickett goes through his reads quickly, is able to move in or out of the pocket comfortably while keeping his eyes downfield, and is very accurate with his ball placement on his passes. I mentioned before that he runs faster than I thought, but his arm strength also looked even better than I thought as well. I certainly do not see indications yet that arm strength is going be an achilles heel for him, but obviously KP is still in his NFL infancy and it is way too early to make clear judgements about his ability.

As odd as this may sound, and I have only watched significant parts of a few Jacksonville Jaguars games the last couple years, Pickett has already shown more to me in 6 quarters than what I have seen from Trevor Lawrence since he entered the NFL......and Lawrence was proclaimed to be the biggest can't miss QB prospect since Andrew Luck.

He has an above average arm, but it seems like nowadays, fans will say someone has a weak arm if they can't throw it as far as Mahomes or Allen

[dislocatedday]

He has an above average arm, but it seems like nowadays, fans will say someone has a weak arm if they can't throw it as far as Mahomes or Allen

Josh Allen was rather inaccurate in his first couple seasons if I remember correctly, and that was the knock on him. He is one of the few guys that I can think of off the top of my head who solved his accuracy issues, and then blossomed into a superstar NFL QB. Accuracy is so important at this level, and Pickett has that I believe.

[polamalubeast]

Josh Allen was rather inaccurate in his first couple seasons if I remember correctly, and that was the knock on him. He is one of the few guys that I can think of off the top of my head who solved his accuracy issues, and then blossomed into a superstar NFL QB. Accuracy is so important at this level, and Pickett has that I believe.

Allen was terrible in his rookie season and nothing special in 2019.But since 2020 he is so special and he is better and better!

[DuckHodges]

Josh Allen was rather inaccurate in his first couple seasons if I remember correctly, and that was the knock on him. He is one of the few guys that I can think of off the top of my head who solved his accuracy issues, and then blossomed into a superstar NFL QB. Accuracy is so important at this level, and Pickett has that I believe.

Agree. Most rookies struggle with accuracy, but Pickett doesn't seem to have a problem there. People say he's low ceiling but I'm not buying that. He's above average in most physical measurables (except hand size lol), and good in accuracy and decision making. His ceiling is Drew Brees and floor is Neil O'Donnell

[Craic]

Agree. Most rookies struggle with accuracy, but Pickett doesn't seem to have a problem there. People say he's low ceiling but I'm not buying that. He's above average in most physical measurables (except hand size lol), and good in accuracy and decision making. His ceiling is Drew Brees and floor is Neil O'Donnell

Granted, I haven't done a lot of reading on Pickett but what I have seen hasn't mentioned a low ceiling on him. Was that said during the draft? Sometime after?

For what I've seen right now, I don't think I'd put his ceiling in the category of Brees. Brees was a top-level, franchise QB who flirted with (and may have reached) elite status. I'd say comparing best years to best years, he was probably half a step over Ben.

Right now, I think Pickett is more than serviceable and perhaps his ceiling is above average to good, but not elite. Might I be wrong? I certainly hope so. Only time will tell and I'll be rooting him on to prove me wrong every week.

[Steeler-in-west]

Seems fair.

And just to be clear, this isn’t just MojoUW making this up to be a jerk.

Majority of the non Steelers fan site reports are all some version of Pickett looked meh at best with 2 quarters of garbage time buoying the stats.

So that’s why I’ve asked.

i don't think non steeler fan sites spend much time analyzing another teams player, probably very cursory, just checking to see how many TD's or big plays they made....

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I guess the simplest way to explain it is this. How many rookies starting their first game, on the road, against probably the best team in the NFL, in 20 mph wind, incredible crowd noise which made it hard to communicate, with a shit show going on around him.......managed to complete 65% of their passes and throw for 327 yards?

He also fought to the final down with everything he had, literally and figuratively. I was impressed.

yup,

1. no run support
2. a number of crucial drops by the wr's
3. facing a blitzing onslaught in the second half
4. defense banged up and couldn't stop bills from scoring so it was a game of catch up from the start
5. canada's playcalling

[DuckHodges]

Granted, I haven't done a lot of reading on Pickett but what I have seen hasn't mentioned a low ceiling on him. Was that said during the draft? Sometime after?

For what I've seen right now, I don't think I'd put his ceiling in the category of Brees. Brees was a top-level, franchise QB who flirted with (and may have reached) elite status. I'd say comparing best years to best years, he was probably half a step over Ben.

Right now, I think Pickett is more than serviceable and perhaps his ceiling is above average to good, but not elite. Might I be wrong? I certainly hope so. Only time will tell and I'll be rooting him on to prove me wrong every week.

I keep hearing how Pickett has a lower than elite ceiling because he doesn't have any elite measurables (arm talent and mobility for instance are above average but not elite).

Brees as a ceiling (not an expectation, but a ceiling) is realistic. Brees never had elite arm strength or mobility, but what he had was elite accuracy. Pickett IMO if he reaches his potential can get there. He already is probably more accurate than a lot of NFL veteran starters.

Though I personally hate the 'high/low ceiling' marks on Pickett. What makes a great QB great, is a lot of the traits that are hard to measure. Mostly the ability to perform under pressure which all the 'greats' have. Montana, Bradshaw, Brady, etc all delivered with consistency when the odds were stacked against them, or when placed in high pressure situations. AKA the "It" factor, and that's one thing you either have or you don't, it can't be coached. Pickett does seem to have that at first glance.

[Steeler-in-west]

for the next few games (or rest of this season) Pickett's ceiling is probably going to change by the week

[cubanstogie]

He passes the eye test for me, where as MT didn’t. He looks and acts like a leader and has Joe Burrow skills IMO. I get lack of scoring but no one on offense helped bail a rookie QB out. A rookie needs a solid O line and running game to shine, I don’t see that happening this year. KP was absolutely the right pick in draft. If not MT would’ve been replaced by Rudolph. Best QB in draft, if he doesn’t pan out like a large number don’t, find another guy. MT and Rudolph not the guy. Nor was Haskins, Lynch or other guys signed but atleast they are trying.

[Born2Steel]

KP gives me hope for the future, but I have lost confidence in this season. You just can't lose this many starters on defense and expect to stop NFL teams from scoring. This offense simply can't keep pace.

[86WARD]

KP gives me hope for the future, but I have lost confidence in this season. You just can't lose this many starters on defense and expect to stop NFL teams from scoring. This offense simply can't keep pace.

Not to mention the offense can’t keep pace because the simply aren’t an NFL Caliber offense…

[DuckHodges]

100 bucks says that it was Dwins who voted "neither" :chuckle:

[Edman]

This is why despite the statistics, the Steelers have something here to build on. He can only get better.

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/10/film-room-kenny-pickett-didnt-blink-in-first-career-nfl-start/#disqus_thread

[teegre]

He passes the eye test for me, where as MT didn’t. He looks and acts like a leader and has Joe Burrow skills IMO. I get lack of scoring but no one on offense helped bail a rookie QB out. A rookie needs a solid O line and running game to shine, I don’t see that happening this year. KP was absolutely the right pick in draft. If not MT would’ve been replaced by Rudolph. Best QB in draft, if he doesn’t pan out like a large number don’t, find another guy. MT and Rudolph not the guy. Nor was Haskins, Lynch or other guys signed but atleast they are trying.

:nod: I’ve said numerous times that Kenny is Burrow Lite.

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:nod: I’ve said numerous times that Kenny is Burrow Lite.
He full Burrow 2022 version.

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Watching that Bengals/Ravens game on Sunday, I'd say neither of those QBs looked like too much to worry about. They both played like garbage. Kenny CAN be the best QB in the division by next year.