The "Bridge" Quarterback

[Edman]

Today we saw the difference between a real winning quarterback and...what makes Mitch Trubisky what he is. He is just not good enough. What "Bridge" is Mike Tomlin hoping to cross here?

But Mike Tomlin doesn't "start" rookies in his club, you know. Boys' Club Tomlin needs to start looking for something else to do. The NFL has changed and the "bridge QB" is a dead and tired myth.

[DuckHodges]

Only believe in bridge qb if it’s an aging HoFer

[dislocatedday]

Today we saw the difference between a real winning quarterback and...what makes Mitch Trubisky what he is. He is just not good enough. What "Bridge" is Mike Tomlin hoping to cross here?


A bridge to nowhere

[polamalubeast]

But but but....he is now 30-21 as starter....

[86WARD]

Aaron Rodgers may have been the only “option” out there that may have succeeded in this offense today. This team clearly is the exact same offense as it was last year.

[Mojouw]

Honestly, people are going to hate on me but I really don't care. I've been making this argument since last year. And many many posters were like "stop being negative", "coaches know what they are doing", "Trubisky has potential", "Cousins is good", and so on and so forth.

Can we all admit that there were two glaringly obvious things today:
1. Mitchell Trubisky is not an accurate NFL QB. His ball placement and timing is inconsistent at best and downright awful at worst.
2. Trubisky has no "feel for the game". He plays robotic and programmed with little ability to make quick and bold decisions.

I saw nothing today that looked any different than the Bears era. MAYBE....that MT didn't toss any YOLO INTs.

[polamalubeast]

Honestly, people are going to hate on me but I really don't care. I've been making this argument since last year. And many many posters were like "stop being negative", "coaches know what they are doing", "Trubisky has potential", "Cousins is good", and so on and so forth.

Can we all admit that there were two glaringly obvious things today:
1. Mitchell Trubisky is not an accurate NFL QB. His ball placement and timing is inconsistent at best and downright awful at worst.
2. Trubisky has no "feel for the game". He plays robotic and programmed with little ability to make quick and bold decisions.

I saw nothing today that looked any different than the Bears era. MAYBE....that MT didn't toss any YOLO INTs.

Big difference between watching the game and watching only the stats!

[DuckHodges]

Tomlin's plan is for Kenny to watch and learn? Uh, I don't think you want this kid to 'learn' anything from Mitch.

[86WARD]

Honestly, people are going to hate on me but I really don't care. I've been making this argument since last year. And many many posters were like "stop being negative", "coaches know what they are doing", "Trubisky has potential", "Cousins is good", and so on and so forth.

Can we all admit that there were two glaringly obvious things today:
1. Mitchell Trubisky is not an accurate NFL QB. His ball placement and timing is inconsistent at best and downright awful at worst.
2. Trubisky has no "feel for the game". He plays robotic and programmed with little ability to make quick and bold decisions.

I saw nothing today that looked any different than the Bears era. MAYBE....that MT didn't toss any YOLO INTs.

He’s not good. Just like last season though…the problems run much deeper than just Clutchbisky…

[Mojouw]

He’s not good. Just like last season though…the problems run much deeper than just Clutchbisky…

Yes. I totally agree and not arguing against that. They could fire Canada tomorrow and I wouldn't make a peep.

But as long as MT is the starting QB there is no coach that will be able to install and call a consistently successful offense.

So give Canada or whoever they could bring in a half a chance and let KP learn on the fly.

[Edman]

Matt Canada can only call so much if the Quarterback cannot make the throws he needs to make. Trubisky was throwing high and off-target all day and horrible throws behind Muth.

[86WARD]

Yes. I totally agree and not arguing against that. They could fire Canada tomorrow and I wouldn't make a peep.

But as long as MT is the starting QB there is no coach that will be able to install and call a consistently successful offense.

So give Canada or whoever they could bring in a half a chance and let KP learn on the fly.

If rather attempt to do it the other way…I’d rather see a new OC with Trubisky and then go to Pickett…

It’s looking more and more like we know what Canada is and that frustrates me much more than what we know of MT.

[86WARD]

Matt Canada can only call so much if the Quarterback cannot make the throws he needs to make. Trubisky was throwing high and off-target all day and horrible throws behind Muth.

Stop. We went through that narrative with Ben and the routes weren’t there to support that theory. Canada’s offense is terribly basic, simple, easy to defend, easy to predict.

Whats going to happen is you put Pickett in there, he fails in it just like everyone else, Canada gets another year because the change happened mid season, then Pickett fails in it in 2023 and maybe Canada gets fired, then Pickett is starting all over again in 2024…maybe by 2025 he gets the hang of the new offense, maybe not and by the time his contract is up, you still have no idea what he is…

[Mojouw]

If rather attempt to do it the other way…I’d rather see a new OC with Trubisky and then go to Pickett…

It’s looking more and more like we know what Canada is and that frustrates me much more than what we know of MT.

I guess that is where we part ways and that's no problem.

I wholeheartedly believe that you could have the next great OC and QB guru appear on the Steelers coaching staff tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. There is a hard cap on how well any MT led offense can play.

Honestly, ideally the Steelers would do both. Anyone have any confidence that Canada and Sullivan are the guys to craft and mold the next franchise QB and playoff winning QB?

[86WARD]

I guess that is where we part ways and that's no problem.

I wholeheartedly believe that you could have the next great OC and QB guru appear on the Steelers coaching staff tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. There is a hard cap on how well any MT led offense can play.

Honestly, ideally the Steelers would do both. Anyone have any confidence that Canada and Sullivan are the guys to craft and mold the next franchise QB and playoff winning QB?

Not a chance.

Perfect world, they get a new OC in there next week. Play calling looks better, OL looks better and KP starts.

[Edman]

Stop. We went through that narrative with Ben and the routes weren’t there to support that theory. Canada’s offense is terribly basic, simple, easy to defend, easy to predict.

Whats going to happen is you put Pickett in there, he fails in it just like everyone else, Canada gets another year because the change happened mid season, then Pickett fails in it in 2023 and maybe Canada gets fired, then Pickett is starting all over again in 2024…maybe by 2025 he gets the hang of the new offense, maybe not and by the time his contract is up, you still have no idea what he is…

The Steelers went through 25 years between Bradshaw and Ben for a good reason. Good NFL QB's don't grow on trees. Just ask the Broncos who finally said "eff it" after running on the treadmill and signed Wilson. Or ask how the Colts are doing today after their big FA QB signing was only good enough for a tie against the Texans. We take guys like Prime Ben for granted. Trubisky was barely harassed and had minimal pressure all day and it was still an ordeal on Offense with several horrendous throws.

Nah, it just can't be possible for the Steelers to go from a once-good but declined QB to another substandard QB. I'd hate to say it, but welcome to the QB conga line. Shades of Malone, Blackledge, and Brister.

[polamalubeast]

The Steelers went through 25 years between Bradshaw and Ben for a good reason. Good NFL QB's don't grow on trees. Just ask the Broncos who finally said "eff it" and signed Wilson. Or ask how the Colts are doing today after their big FA QB signing was only good enough for a tie against the Texans. We take guys like Prime Ben for granted.

Nah, it just can't be possible for the Steelers to go from a once-good but declined QB to another substandard QB. I'd hate to say it, but welcome to the QB conga line. Shades of Malone, Blackledge, and Brister.

Maybe but it can change quickly...it can be short like it can take over 70 years and counting like the bears right now

[86WARD]

The Steelers went through 25 years between Bradshaw and Ben for a good reason. Good NFL QB's don't grow on trees. Just ask the Broncos who finally said "eff it" after running on the treadmill and signed Wilson. Or ask how the Colts are doing today after their big FA QB signing was only good enough for a tie against the Texans. We take guys like Prime Ben for granted. Trubisky was barely harassed and had minimal pressure all day and it was still an ordeal on Offense with several horrendous throws.

Nah, it just can't be possible for the Steelers to go from a once-good but declined QB to another substandard QB. I'd hate to say it, but welcome to the QB conga line. Shades of Malone, Blackledge, and Brister.

I won’t disagree with that at all. It could be years before they find another Ben and/or Bradshaw. But I won’t pin everything on Trubisky, as bad as I think he is. Canada is just as bad if not worse.

[Dwinsgames]

we should have traded away the future for ARod ........ <insert sarcasm here> .....................

[polamalubeast]

we should have traded away the future for ARod ........ <insert sarcasm here> .....................

Replace Rodgers with Russell Wilson....

[Dwinsgames]

Replace Rodgers with Russell Wilson....

a completely different conversation IMO....

Age and amount of service you can get as a return becomes a factor ...still not a trade I would make but it is at the very least one worthy of a discussion

[DuckHodges]

a completely different conversation IMO....

Age and amount of service you can get as a return becomes a factor ...still not a trade I would make but it is at the very least one worthy of a discussion

honestly I would make that trade for Wilson without flinching. We’re a franchise QB away from a SB contender

[86WARD]

honestly I would make that trade for Wilson without flinching. We’re a franchise QB away from a SB contender

He wasn’t so smart last night…lol

[cubanstogie]

He wasn’t so smart last night…lol
It took 2 fumbles at goal line and a poor coaching decision to lose , Wilson wasn’t great but didn’t lose the game.

[Edman]

The bridge to nowhere.

[EzraTank]

The bridge to nowhere.

LOL, came here to post this. MT was horrible today.

[Dwinsgames]

I find one common theme to this failed offensive system and that is Matt Canada ....

everyone blamed Ben , now they Blame Mitch , problem is its the same shitty play calls and the same shitty results ....

the other common factor is when Ben went no huddle he succeeded and the team looked like a completely different team . today 1 drive was no huddle and guess what was the only good drive of the day ...

but hey you can ignore the facts all day long but it won't change them ...

is Mitch perfect , no but he was fire when he commanded the offense and it looked like a different offensive unit ( common theme with Ben last year with no huddle / hurry up )

you can switch QB's 100 times but if the play calling doesn't change we likely see very little change in results


this loss falls straight at the feet of Gunner

[NCSteeler]

Watching end of dolphins ravens, seems this offense thing could be a good thing Pittsburgh could learn how to do

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[Edman]

Watching end of dolphins ravens, seems this offense thing could be a good thing Pittsburgh could learn how to do

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They have much, much better quarterbacks than we do.

[EzraTank]

I find one common theme to this failed offensive system and that is Matt Canada ....

everyone blamed Ben , now they Blame Mitch , problem is its the same shitty play calls and the same shitty results ....

the other common factor is when Ben went no huddle he succeeded and the team looked like a completely different team . today 1 drive was no huddle and guess what was the only good drive of the day ...

but hey you can ignore the facts all day long but it won't change them ...

is Mitch perfect , no but he was fire when he commanded the offense and it looked like a different offensive unit ( common theme with Ben last year with no huddle / hurry up )

you can switch QB's 100 times but if the play calling doesn't change we likely see very little change in results


this loss falls straight at the feet of Gunner

Do you live in Martha's Vineyard?

[dislocatedday]

I find one common theme to this failed offensive system and that is Matt Canada ....

everyone blamed Ben , now they Blame Mitch , problem is its the same shitty play calls and the same shitty results ....

the other common factor is when Ben went no huddle he succeeded and the team looked like a completely different team . today 1 drive was no huddle and guess what was the only good drive of the day ...

but hey you can ignore the facts all day long but it won't change them ...

is Mitch perfect , no but he was fire when he commanded the offense and it looked like a different offensive unit ( common theme with Ben last year with no huddle / hurry up )

you can switch QB's 100 times but if the play calling doesn't change we likely see very little change in results


this loss falls straight at the feet of Gunner

I think all the things you stated are valid and good points.....but I do think Mitch is a big problem as well. I think he has been inaccurate by NFL QB standards, does not see the field well, and his mechanics are poor. Even many of his completed passes were off somewhat.

His play screams backup, game manager QB to me....not NFL starter.

[polamalubeast]

Matt Canada is a huge problem,but Mitch was a problem in Chicago and he is also a problem with us.Both need to be replaced

[EzraTank]

If the Cowboys win later on I'll feel better that we all sucked equally. Baltimore was winning 35-14 going into the 4th quarter and gave up 28 points! LOL.

[DuckHodges]

I think all the things you stated are valid and good points.....but I do think Mitch is a big problem as well. I think he has been inaccurate by NFL QB standards, does not see the field well, and his mechanics are poor. Even many of his completed passes were off somewhat.

His play screams backup, game manager QB to me....not NFL starter.

A game manager won’t win without a strong running attack. At this point honestly keeping Mitch as the backup QB is playing not to lose (even though they will lose a lot) instead of playing to win

[dislocatedday]

A game manager won’t win without a strong running attack. At this point honestly keeping Mitch as the backup QB is playing not to lose (even though they will lose a lot) instead of playing to win

Agreed. I feel like Steelers are wasting the talents of DJ, muth, claypool, and Pickens right now by keeping Trubisky as the starter. Canada's scheme seems poor as well, but I think the team needs to switch to Pickett to try and add some juice to this offense.

[Dwinsgames]

Do you live in Martha's Vineyard?

no but I hear they got 2 more plane loads ... hope thats a common theme too but that likely belongs in the soapbox #InvadeThePlaygroundOfTheElites

[86WARD]

Matt Canada is a huge problem,but Mitch was a problem in Chicago and he is also a problem with us.Both need to be replaced

Agree. The problem won’t be solved by replacing one or the other…both must be replaced to succeed and that won’t happen in one season…

[DuckHodges]

Agree. The problem won’t be solved by replacing one or the other…both must be replaced to succeed and that won’t happen in one season…

Well they can easily fix one of those problems but Tomlin won’t make changes until they lose 3 games in a row

[86WARD]

Well they can easily fix one of those problems but Tomlin won’t make changes until they lose 3 games in a row

Replacing MT isn’t going to matter much. It’s still the same shitty plays being called. Both need to be replaced.

Replacing Canada and leaving MT in there and you still have a guy missing throws, fumbling, etc.

[Born2Steel]

If you bring in Rudy, defenses will just blitz the mess out of him and since he’s not exactly what you call a mobile QB you probably end up right back with Mitch.

Defenses are sending just enough pressure against Mitch to make him check it down or make a bad throw.

I might try Rudy and use a power run game with 12 and 22 personnel. Play action sprinkled in.

[Dwinsgames]

honestly I would make that trade for Wilson without flinching. We’re a franchise QB away from a SB contender

oops

[86WARD]

oops

No QB is succeeding in the Broncos offense just like no QB is going to succeed in the Steelers offense…