Why Was Kendrick Green Drafted By The Pittsburgh Steelers

[Shoes]

Moats react to Coach T’s comments about KG!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9TP6eXxwSM

[ThorndikeFFA]

I think the question is really, why are we all still surprised by this bullshit?

Maybe Tomlin isn't stupid, but his irrationally stubborn nature makes him appear to be so.

[NCSteeler]

I think Tomlin let's his coaches run too much. He makes some bad hires and then to his benefit he doesn't micromanage. JC didn't start until Klemm was gone. But the damn head coach gotta get there way before that point. He should have told Klemm it over shuffle the damn line and let's go

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[Mojouw]

JC Is at about his ceiling for a player. And, honestly, it isn’t very good. Like not at all.

Green has the chance to be so much more.

He and Moore were force fed snaps in 21 with an eye towards the benefit of future seasons.

[BlackAndGold]

Green was bad this year but not sure why he should be given up on. Should he be penciled in as a starter? NO, but who is to say he can't improve?

[NCSteeler]

He got worse the longer he played , I personally saw no improvement, based on what I see on the TV

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[oneforthetoe]

I think the issue this year was that we needed so many of our rookies to actually make a major contribution. You all know how the Steelers operate. When we have a major need we sign a mid - range free agent prior to the draft so we don't have to reach for a player and that drafted player doesn't have to carry full load his first year. So many things went wrong this year that the system broke down. First, we lost players who we didn't expect to, and couldn't, replace in Tuitt and Decastro. Second, our mid- range FA signings turned pretty bottom feeder. I thought Finney would beat out Green in preseason, but he could hardly hold a roster spot. Similarly, I thought we got a steel Joe Shobert and we got stolen.

So, I think it's fair to criticize Tomlin for a lot of things this year, but I have to temper some of that criticism with just having very few options.

[Mojouw]

I think the issue this year was that we needed so many of our rookies to actually make a major contribution. You all know how the Steelers operate. When we have a major need we sign a mid - range free agent prior to the draft so we don't have to reach for a player and that drafted player doesn't have to carry full load his first year. So many things went wrong this year that the system broke down. First, we lost players who we didn't expect to, and couldn't, replace in Tuitt and Decastro. Second, our mid- range FA signings turned pretty bottom feeder. I thought Finney would beat out Green in preseason, but he could hardly hold a roster spot. Similarly, I thought we got a steel Joe Shobert and we got stolen.

So, I think it's fair to criticize Tomlin for a lot of things this year, but I have to temper some of that criticism with just having very few options.

The unexpected salary cap reduction but the Steelers harder than most. Many of those FAs you spoke of this year had to be dumpster dives instead of bargain bin.

[Steeler-in-west]

Because Klemm was incompetent

he bolted during the regular season and Green was immediately replaced by JC, that’s no coincidence

[teegre]

Of course they drafted Green to play center. Tomlin saying Green has flexibility is just a way of softening the blow when they move him to RG.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Of course they drafted Green to play center. Tomlin saying Green has flexibility is just a way of softening the blow when they move him to RG.

fortunately for us, we need a new RG.

Turnstile Turner wasn't the answer...

[teegre]

fortunately for us, we need a new RG.

Turnstile Turner wasn't the answer...

It’s almost as if the rolled the dice, crapped out, but actually having wagered on “Don’t Pass.” :wink02:

[Shoes]

Green was bad this year but not sure why he should be given up on. Should he be penciled in as a starter? NO, but who is to say he can't improve?


I don't think anyone is saying that we should give up on green, but I would try him at G. The issue is Tomlin said he was NFL starter ready at the start of the season and tried to make it happen through the entire season when it was clear for everyone to see that green wasn't ready. Why didn't Tomlin have a fair, open competition between Finney, Green & JC? They need to draft a real C.

[Born2Steel]

I don't think anyone is saying that we should give up on green, but I would try him at G. The issue is Tomlin said he was NFL starter ready at the start of the season and tried to make it happen through the entire season when it was clear for everyone to see that green wasn't ready. Why didn't Tomlin have a fair, open competition between Finney, Green & JC? They need to draft a real C.

I think that will happen. This is not a deep draft for OC but there are 3-4 that could probably come in and start.

[Mojouw]

I think we should all temper our expectations about rookie OL. We have just completed a season watching multiple rookies and first time starters struggle to adjust and deal with OL play at the NFL level.

Looking across the league...only one of the ballyhooed center prospects from this past draft actually had success playing center - Humphrey. Dickerson and Meinerz played guard for a variety of reasons.

The 2022 Steelers best bet for improved play at Center is a quantum leap in Kendrick Green's performance. If they draft a center they either need to get the ONE prospect in each draft class that can play the position in the NFL in their rookie year or they need to be "okay" with it being 2023 before Center is a position of strength.

[Born2Steel]

I think we should all temper our expectations about rookie OL. We have just completed a season watching multiple rookies and first time starters struggle to adjust and deal with OL play at the NFL level.

Looking across the league...only one of the ballyhooed center prospects from this past draft actually had success playing center - Humphrey. Dickerson and Meinerz played guard for a variety of reasons.

The 2022 Steelers best bet for improved play at Center is a quantum leap in Kendrick Green's performance. If they draft a center they either need to get the ONE prospect in each draft class that can play the position in the NFL in their rookie year or they need to be "okay" with it being 2023 before Center is a position of strength.

Tying this into the OP, was switching to Hassenauer at Center an upgrade over Green? If the answer is yes then that is the proof in what you just said. The dropoff from Pouncey to Hassenauer was so great we just assumed a loss when that happened. Now the 'vet' is the upgrade. Logical.

[NCSteeler]

It doesn't matter who plays now. We finally tapped I to the Mike Shanahan coaching tree.

That's right Chris Morgan was an assistant line coach for the 2013 redskins

Along with Kyle Shanahan, Matt Lafluer and Sean Mcvay

I expect great things . [emoji16][emoji16]

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[Born2Steel]

This article is from December but it was an interesting read on a college OL coach.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2021/12/29/22855921/why-the-steelers-need-to-hire-ed-warinner-as-the-next-offensive-line-coach-adrian-klemm-oregon-news

The scouting reports seem to be slower coming in than in recent years. There is a lot of information on players on 2021 expectations. The 2021 college season is over and players are making their declarations. But there is very little movement on the scouting sites. Strange and frustrating.

[Orion]

I think the question is really, why are we all still surprised by this bullshit?

Maybe Tomlin isn't stupid, but his irrationally stubborn nature makes him appear to be so.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjonathanbecher.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F07%2FStupid-is-as-stupid-does.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

[teegre]

Green gut a long leash because Hassensaussen’s ceiling is: backup. The hope was that Green would improve beyond that level, but he simply didn’t.

[Shoes]

Green gut a long leash because Hassensaussen’s ceiling is: backup. The hope was that Green would improve beyond that level, but he simply didn’t.


Tomlin said he was starter ready which he wasn't. The position was given to him without completion according to moats. That is not good for the team or Green.

[teegre]

Tomlin said he was starter ready which he wasn't. The position was given to him without completion according to moats. That is not good for the team or Green.

Coaches say things to pump players up all of the time.

Was there much if a competition? I don’t know, and I don’t think it mattered. The ceiling of JC was a backup; the ceiling for Kendrick was possibly higher. All things being even, I too would have given the rookie the start over a guy who barely makes the 53 roster.

[Shoes]

Coaches say things to pump players up all of the time.

Was there much if a competition? I don’t know, and I don’t think it mattered. The ceiling of JC was a backup; the ceiling for Kendrick was possibly higher. All things being even, I too would have given the rookie the start over a guy who barely makes the 53 roster.

I don't know either, but I do know Moats knows more about the Steelers than I do.

[teegre]

I don't know either, but I do know Moats knows more about the Steelers than I do.

That is obviously true; Mosts has far more insight than we do. My point is that logic dictated the decision.

We knew/know that JC is not a starter at center; Kendrick possible could have been. You have to roll with the rookie.

[Mojouw]

Coaches say things to pump players up all of the time.

Was there much if a competition? I don’t know, and I don’t think it mattered. The ceiling of JC was a backup; the ceiling for Kendrick was possibly higher. All things being even, I too would have given the rookie the start over a guy who barely makes the 53 roster.

Yup. The best version of JC is a guy you are looking to replace ASAP. The best version of Green is a guy that locks up a starting interior OL position for several years.

I couldn't get the video to play the other day...so not entirely certain what Moats had to say...but based on the context in this thread -- people are making far too big a deal out of it.

[Shoes]

Yup. The best version of JC is a guy you are looking to replace ASAP. The best version of Green is a guy that locks up a starting interior OL position for several years.

I couldn't get the video to play the other day...so not entirely certain what Moats had to say...but based on the context in this thread -- people are making far too big a deal out of it.

That is pretty funny when one scans the topics on this site. :chuckle:

[Orion]

my beef with the center fiasco is that they went in to the season so complacent at center. it is like they drafted Green and said ok we good. they didnt even bring in any vets to my knowledge other than finney.
New england picked up ted karass for 3 million. Karass isnt that good but he would have looked like an all pro compared to what we had. the niners picked up alex mack for a 3 million cap hit this year. again he is on the downside but still would have been a huge upgrade. they had 8 million of cap space left over. hell they could have even signed corey lindsley and back loaded his deal like the chargers did.
the options were there, for some explicable reason they were way too over confident in a 3rd round rookie with very very little experience at the position. did they get some bad advice from a psychic or something ?
same goes for tackle. there were cheap tackles available.

[NCSteeler]

my beef with the center fiasco is that they went in to the season so complacent at center. it is like they drafted Green and said ok we good. they didnt even bring in any vets to my knowledge other than finney.
New england picked up ted karass for 3 million. Karass isnt that good but he would have looked like an all pro compared to what we had. the niners picked up alex mack for a 3 million cap hit this year. again he is on the downside but still would have been a huge upgrade. they had 8 million of cap space left over. hell they could have even signed corey lindsley and back loaded his deal like the chargers did.
the options were there, for some explicable reason they were way too over confident in a 3rd round rookie with very very little experience at the position. did they get some bad advice from a psychic or something ?
same goes for tackle. there were cheap tackles available.Well said. It appeared on the surface that they did nothing , especially given it being Ben's last hurah

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[Steeler-in-west]

You can talk about potential all you want. JC performed better as the running game improved when he was given the start. It shouldn’t have taken most of the season to figure out that Green couldn’t handle the center position. But coaches (Klemm, Tomlin, whoever) are sometimes motivated by politics and their own self interests instead of what’s best for the team. Happens at work with management all the time. Professional Football is probably no different

[NCSteeler]

You can talk about potential all you want. JC performed better as the running game improved when he was given the start. It shouldn’t have taken most of the season to figure out that Green couldn’t handle the center position. But coaches (Klemm, Tomlin, whoever) are sometimes motivated by politics and their own self interests instead of what’s best for the team. Happens at work with management all the time. Professional Football is probably no differentAt my work, once it's decided, someone has to admit they were wrong to go backwards. I would imagine a bunch of big ego NFL coaches are worse many times to their own detriment

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[86WARD]

He was a third round pick…there is no “Why was he drafted” question. The better question is why did they let him have 53…

[Born2Steel]

This guy is maybe not the best analyst you've seen or heard but he does show some of what Green CAN do. Most of these snaps are from the LG position and they are domination snaps for the most part. He does show a play or 2 where you get to see mistakes. All in all a good clip I think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcPDK-2Od28

I don't know if the plan is for Green to move to RG and the Steelers draft an OC, or if Green will stay at Center and the Steelers draft a Guard. Maybe the plan follows how the draft flows? If Linderbaum is still on the board the Steelers draft a Center and move Green to RG, for instance. But if Linderbaum is already drafted and off the board, the plan becomes get the best OG/OT and keep Green at Center for now. I doubt the Steelers will double dip at IOL in the draft. AND 1 bad season does not make a career.

[Dwinsgames]

This guy is maybe not the best analyst you've seen or heard but he does show some of what Green CAN do. Most of these snaps are from the LG position and they are domination snaps for the most part. He does show a play or 2 where you get to see mistakes. All in all a good clip I think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcPDK-2Od28

I don't know if the plan is for Green to move to RG and the Steelers draft an OC, or if Green will stay at Center and the Steelers draft a Guard. Maybe the plan follows how the draft flows? If Linderbaum is still on the board the Steelers draft a Center and move Green to RG, for instance. But if Linderbaum is already drafted and off the board, the plan becomes get the best OG/OT and keep Green at Center for now. I doubt the Steelers will double dip at IOL in the draft. AND 1 bad season does not make a career.


I have always been a proponent of building the lines from the inside out , any consideration of leaving Green at Center for me is flawed logic .. we have a year of that tape and 85% of it is not good , meaning if his game improved 35% ( thats a HUGE improvement and highly unlikely ) that we would still be left needing more on 50% of the snaps ...its just not good enough ...

Green reminds me of a guy we drafted many years ago and spent I believe a 2nd round guard/tackle on and we gave up on him before his rookie deal was over ( Kraig Urbik) he just was not the physical presence we wanted / needed ...

this is not to say that Green can not be a serviceable Guard because he may be , but he will IMO never be the Center we need him to be , his game is to predicated on first contact and early control to dictate and at center he just can't snap the ball and still obtain first control ...

obviously this is my opinion for what it is worth

[Fire Goodell]

I still think Green could be successful at C, he just wasn't ready for it straight out of college. He's learning a new position and could have been better off learning the position behind someone else rather than be thrust right into the fire.

[Orion]

I have always been a proponent of building the lines from the inside out , any consideration of leaving Green at Center for me is flawed logic .. we have a year of that tape and 85% of it is not good , meaning if his game improved 35% ( thats a HUGE improvement and highly unlikely ) that we would still be left needing more on 50% of the snaps ...its just not good enough ...

Green reminds me of a guy we drafted many years ago and spent I believe a 2nd round guard/tackle on and we gave up on him before his rookie deal was over ( Kraig Urbik) he just was not the physical presence we wanted / needed ...

this is not to say that Green can not be a serviceable Guard because he may be , but he will IMO never be the Center we need him to be , his game is to predicated on first contact and early control to dictate and at center he just can't snap the ball and still obtain first control ...

obviously this is my opinion for what it is worth

ah the "U" boat. Urbik was drafted in the 3rd in 2009. couldnt beat ramon foster for the backup job behind Kemo. they cut him in 2010. he went to the bills and started and actually was a starter for several years. dude managed to eek out a 8 year career with 63 starts.

[NCSteeler]

I have always been a proponent of building the lines from the inside out , any consideration of leaving Green at Center for me is flawed logic .. we have a year of that tape and 85% of it is not good , meaning if his game improved 35% ( thats a HUGE improvement and highly unlikely ) that we would still be left needing more on 50% of the snaps ...its just not good enough ...

Green reminds me of a guy we drafted many years ago and spent I believe a 2nd round guard/tackle on and we gave up on him before his rookie deal was over ( Kraig Urbik) he just was not the physical presence we wanted / needed ...

this is not to say that Green can not be a serviceable Guard because he may be , but he will IMO never be the Center we need him to be , his game is to predicated on first contact and early control to dictate and at center he just can't snap the ball and still obtain first control ...

obviously this is my opinion for what it is worthUrbik, damn that's an old bad memory

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[Mojouw]

Urbik used to be used to clobber Steelers FO. They let a starter go! Can’t identify talent! No one wants to play here! Fire Colbert.

Now Urbik means Green is a failed player. Fire Colbert AND Tomlin.

I guess Urbik is the ultimate Steelers litmus test?

[Dwinsgames]

Urbik used to be used to clobber Steelers FO. They let a starter go! Can’t identify talent! No one wants to play here! Fire Colbert.

Now Urbik means Green is a failed player. Fire Colbert AND Tomlin.

I guess Urbik is the ultimate Steelers litmus test?

since I was the one who brought him into the conversation , give that post a read if you haven't already :peace:

[Mojouw]

since I was the one who brought him into the conversation , give that post a read if you haven't already :peace:

That’s why I didn’t quote it.

The Urbik reference may be apt. But Green already moves better than Urbik ever did.

I just think it’s way too early to bail out on Green.

[86WARD]

ah the "U" boat. Urbik was drafted in the 3rd in 2009. couldnt beat ramon foster for the backup job behind Kemo. they cut him in 2010. he went to the bills and started and actually was a starter for several years. dude managed to eek out a 8 year career with 63 starts.

Urbik played for 9 seasons. Not a terrible career.

[ALLD]

Whatever happened to alligator arms Limas Sweed? Is he working at FedEx now?

[Orion]

That’s why I didn’t quote it.

The Urbik reference may be apt. But Green already moves better than Urbik ever did.

I just think it’s way too early to bail out on Green.
absolutely. but only a fool would not have a good contingency plan in place........again. and by contingency plan, that doesnt mean a hail mary like hasenhauer.

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Whatever happened to alligator arms Limas Sweed? Is he working at FedEx now?
he got fired from there for dropping too many packages and damaging the merchandise.

[Mojouw]

absolutely. but only a fool would not have a good contingency plan in place........again. and by contingency plan, that doesnt mean a hail mary like hasenhauer.

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he got fired from there for dropping too many packages and damaging the merchandise.

Contingency plans cost money the 2021 team didn’t have.

Hassenhuar and Finney were what a team screaming for cap space ends up with for contingency plans.

I’m not arguing that any of this was a good idea or a good on the field product. But there’s no big conspiracies or hidden agenda.

They were broke. The rookie represented a better option than his replacement level back up until he didn’t. The end.

[Dwinsgames]

Contingency plans cost money the 2021 team didn’t have.

Hassenhuar and Finney were what a team screaming for cap space ends up with for contingency plans.

I’m not arguing that any of this was a good idea or a good on the field product. But there’s no big conspiracies or hidden agenda.

They were broke. The rookie represented a better option than his replacement level back up until he didn’t. The end.


the issue I have with it was they had good games on the books from Hassenhuar and from BJ , were they all pro performances no but they were above the line performances ... and Green was basically anointed the job without competition ... after a few weeks SOMEONE should have been saying ummm maybe we can do better with one of the journeymen vets because they did better in the past .... but instead they continued with the Einsteins definition of insanity and doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results all the while your first ballot HoF QB is on his farewell tour ... did they not OWE him better ? did they not owe him an effort of trying ???

that just pisses me off that they did not do all they could to try and field the best team possible under their roster constraints , it also pisses me off that Canada seemingly did NOTHING to come up with game plans that Ben could run effectively and move the ball with yet when we went no huddle minimizing the effect of Canada we moved the ball far better than with any amount of his input ...

frustrating at the very least ... 1 first half TD in last 8 games by the offense #pathetic

[Orion]

Contingency plans cost money the 2021 team didn’t have.

Hassenhuar and Finney were what a team screaming for cap space ends up with for contingency plans.

I’m not arguing that any of this was a good idea or a good on the field product. But there’s no big conspiracies or hidden agenda.

They were broke. The rookie represented a better option than his replacement level back up until he didn’t. The end.

they carried 8 million over to this years cap. they had the money. not to mention having a magic pen that allows you to back load contracts or add void years.chargers signed linsley the creme of the crop free agent center. 5 years 62 million he counted 6.6 against their 2021 cap....do the math.. 8 - 6.6 = ?

[teegre]

the issue I have with it was they had good games on the books from Hassenhuar and from BJ , were they all pro performances no but they were above the line performances ... and Green was basically anointed the job without competition ... after a few weeks SOMEONE should have been saying ummm maybe we can do better with one of the journeymen vets because they did better in the past .... but instead they continued with the Einsteins definition of insanity and doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results all the while your first ballot HoF QB is on his farewell tour ... did they not OWE him better ? did they not owe him an effort of trying ???

that just pisses me off that they did not do all they could to try and field the best team possible under their roster constraints , it also pisses me off that Canada seemingly did NOTHING to come up with game plans that Ben could run effectively and move the ball with yet when we went no huddle minimizing the effect of Canada we moved the ball far better than with any amount of his input ...

frustrating at the very least ... 1 first half TD in last 8 games by the offense #pathetic
they carried 8 million over to this years cap. they had the money. not to mention having a magic pen that allows you to back load contracts or add void years. the patriots picked up their starting C this year on a 3 million one year deal. the chargers picked up corey linsley ,the creme of the crop free agent center. 5 years 62 million he counted 6.6 against their 2021 cap....do the math.. 8 - 6.6 = ?

The thing is that the "extra" money went towards signing Turner and Schobert (when DeCastro and Bince suddenly both retired).

[Orion]

The thing is that the "extra" money went towards signing Turner and Schobert (when DeCastro and Bince suddenly both retired).
they HAD 7.758 MILLION dollars of cap space they didnt use. they rolled that over to this year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap/

[Mojouw]

the issue I have with it was they had good games on the books from Hassenhuar and from BJ , were they all pro performances no but they were above the line performances ... and Green was basically anointed the job without competition ... after a few weeks SOMEONE should have been saying ummm maybe we can do better with one of the journeymen vets because they did better in the past .... but instead they continued with the Einsteins definition of insanity and doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results all the while your first ballot HoF QB is on his farewell tour ... did they not OWE him better ? did they not owe him an effort of trying ???

that just pisses me off that they did not do all they could to try and field the best team possible under their roster constraints , it also pisses me off that Canada seemingly did NOTHING to come up with game plans that Ben could run effectively and move the ball with yet when we went no huddle minimizing the effect of Canada we moved the ball far better than with any amount of his input ...

frustrating at the very least ... 1 first half TD in last 8 games by the offense #pathetic

They tried (and failed?) to balance the needs of now with developing for the future.

According to pressure stats and several other things, there’s a case to be made that Moore should’ve been benched.

What ever happened to Banner? Or Chuks playing any LT?

To me, and that’s not an insightful source, it reads like a team trying to get away in the now with accelerating the development of their rookie OL.

[teegre]

they HAD 7.758 MILLION dollars of cap space they didnt use. they rolled that over to this year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap/

Interesting... because, right when they signed Schobert and Turner, I recall the discussion being that Omar Khan had to do his cap-voodoo in order to get those in under the cap. I guess that they had money.

Follow up rejoinder: who was available in the free agency market at that point?

[Mojouw]

Interesting... because, right when they signed Schobert and Turner, I recall the discussion being that Omar Khan had to do his cap-voodoo in order to get those in under the cap. I guess that they had money.

Follow up rejoinder: who was available in the free agency market at that point?

I think it was a timing thing. At various points last season, they had no cap space. By the end they had more.

Plus they typically hold back at least 5 million or so for in season use.

[Orion]

I think it was a timing thing. At various points last season, they had no cap space. By the end they had more.

Plus they typically hold back at least 5 million or so for in season use.

you are exactly right. if you wanna dive into free agency for anything more than bottom of the barrel players you got to make moves in march. the fact that they didnt even kick the tires on the bottom of the barrel is what i cant wrap my head around considering they didnt have a center under contract in febuary. i myself would have considered it near the top of the priority list , but that just me.
i seen a quote from tomlin saying they " turn over every stone "...file that right up there with unleashing hell.

[Dwinsgames]

they did not need more money to play players already under contract that gave them a better chance to win ...

JC and BJ BOTH gave them a better chance to win over Green who was constantly in Bens lap

they could have mixed Green in at guard to save face considering all the time missed by Dotson and they would then have a better idea going into 2022 of roster needs

[Mojouw]

you are exactly right. if you wanna dive into free agency for anything more than bottom of the barrel players you got to make moves in march. the fact that they didnt even kick the tires on the bottom of the barrel is what i cant wrap my head around considering they didnt have a center under contract in febuary. i myself would have considered it near the top of the priority list , but that just me.
i seen a quote from tomlin saying they " turn over every stone "...file that right up there with unleashing hell.

In March they didn’t have the cap space.

Cap space is a dynamic thing. By the time they finagled their way to the cap space, Finney was the “best” they could do.

Again, I’m not saying it was a good plan or a great idea, but it was the only path available because of the cap math stuff.

[Mojouw]

they did not need more money to play players already under contract that gave them a better chance to win ...

JC and BJ BOTH gave them a better chance to win over Green who was constantly in Bens lap

they could have mixed Green in at guard to save face considering all the time missed by Dotson and they would then have a better idea going into 2022 of roster needs

Sure. But they played Green and Moore for 2022+ not for 2021 benefits.

[Dwinsgames]

Sure. But they played Green and Moore for 2022+ not for 2021 benefits.


that is/was a disservice to your 18 year vet on his farewell tour ... its liken to throwing in the towel and nobody should be ok with that

[Mojouw]

that is/was a disservice to your 18 year vet on his farewell tour ... its liken to throwing in the towel and nobody should be ok with that

As a fan? Yes.

But clearly the team was.

As much as we’ve all lauded Moore, he was awful for big stretches of last season.

I’m guessing they felt the balance between development and competition was something they were willing to accept.

I’m not asking anyone to agree with it or like it. But I don’t think it was some weird Klemm thing or six dimensional Tomlin draft thing. It’s a simple fact that the Steelers need Green and Moore to get better. Fast. And playing is the only path to that goal.