Bush starting but stinking already

[Dwinsgames]

first drive 6 plays in he has already retreated twice on a run instead of stepping up and making the tackle


damn this guy sucks

[Steel Peon]

He had a stellar tackle of TJ Watt today, nearly ruining Watt's tackle... I really don't want to sit here in public and say the dude looks really stupid, but I've honestly never seen someone do as many boneheaded things on a football field, or maybe in any game. Sure, dumber plays have been made, but his sheer quantity of bad plays has me shaking my head constantly.

[Devilsdancefloor]

Maybe a old retired LBer needs to come talk to him? I think he’s in a funk much like the Boz. ����*♂️

[Dwinsgames]

this run and hit linebacker managed 2 tackles 8 missed / avoided tackles and damn near hurt a team mate .....

Meanwhile Justin Layne who didn't log many snaps managed 2 tackles as well .........

[Fire Goodell]

this run and hit linebacker managed 2 tackles 8 missed / avoided tackles and damn near hurt a team mate .....

Meanwhile Justin Layne who didn't log many snaps managed 2 tackles as well .........

2 tackles as an ILB is downright unacceptable

[DesertSteel]

He's a BUST - maybe the biggest in Steelers' history. I see no hope for him turning it around. He belongs on the bench.

[Dwinsgames]

2 tackles as an ILB is downright unacceptable

agreed

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Oh come on he did have one nice pass break up early and other then that ?

[Dwinsgames]

Oh come on he did have one nice pass break up early and other then that ?


they may have credited him for it but he never touched that ball

[hawaiiansteeler]

Oh come on he did have one nice pass break up early and other then that ?

that was Schobert, not Bush.

[Mojouw]

It’s clearly an above the neck problem. He looks like a dude who is thinking instead of just letting it all hang out and play.

Seems the only hope is that he takes a big mental reset prior to next season. In my viewing experience, guys that look as lost as Bush rarely pull out of the nosedive in season.

But I’m out of my depth here and don’t know what typical solutions are in similar situations. He seems like he has the football version of the yips.

I will say that this is another example of why I can’t understand why franchises only deal with these guys as football players. Bush has said he felt disconnected during his injury rehab. Honestly, a team head shrinker just seems like a mandatory position teams should have.

[HollywoodSteel]

I saw him kind of freeze on a Lamar run and let others make the the tackle rather than go right at him. It looked like he was afraid of committing and guessing wrong, so he didn't do anything. Seems like all of his mistakes have gotten to be too much so now he's in his own head, and his head is not a very productive place to be.

[Mojouw]

I saw him kind of freeze on a Lamar run and let others make the the tackle rather than go right at him. It looked like he was afraid of committing and guessing wrong, so he didn't do anything. Seems like all of his mistakes have gotten to be too much so now he's in his own head, and his head is not a very productive place to be.

This! Better said than my ramblings.

[HollywoodSteel]

This! Better said than my ramblings.

I actually posted before reading your ramblings, but your ramblings made complete sense to me. :)

It's hard to say why some players can emerge from this kind of mental issue to have it finally just click, and others never don't. James Harrison is a good example of a guy who was totally lost, but his own will to succeed propelled him to master it. Unlike Harrison, Bud Dupree might not have been able to work through his meant challenges through sheer will power alone, but fortunately he had TJ Watt to watch film with him every day and help him truly grasp the parts of the game that didn't come naturally.

So it's impossible to know what Bush really needs to help him get to the point where the lights go on and he stops having to second guess everything. Some guys probably don't have the mental strength to ever overcome this hurdle and just spiral, like Limas Sweed. But then you have a guy like Dionte Johnson, who could have totally lost confidence and continued to spiral, but instead decided to just work harder than anyone else in order to overcome whatever his problem was.

I hope Bush has the mental strength and the will to do whatever it takes to be great. If that's the case, then he'll find his way there.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

that was Schobert, not Bush. Na it was Bush and even Romo mentioned it. After that that though ?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Na it was Bush and even Romo mentioned it. After that that though ?

Schobert had a pass defensed, Bush didn't.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326520

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Schobert had a pass defensed, Bush didn't.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401326520 Trust me he did and not a fan of him but one good play he made.

[86WARD]

I saw him kind of freeze on a Lamar run and let others make the the tackle rather than go right at him. It looked like he was afraid of committing and guessing wrong, so he didn't do anything. Seems like all of his mistakes have gotten to be too much so now he's in his own head, and his head is not a very productive place to be.

In all fairness, there were a lot of players that were just playing a contain type defense and not committing to a tackle until Jackson committed to making his move. That was happening everywhere and is actually the proper way to play Jackson.

I did see Bush retreating a few times more than necessary but it is hard not to against Jackson.

[Dwinsgames]

Trust me he did and not a fan of him but one good play he made.

I know the play you are speaking of , between the hash and the left sideline he was in coverage and extended out to break up the pass ... BUT he didn't break it up , never touched the player or the ball he was a flash by distraction at best ... Romo did say something like oh look at that Breakup by Bush right there ( in real time) but the slow mo showed he truly had nothing to do with is

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

I know the play you are speaking of , between the hash and the left sideline he was in coverage and extended out to break up the pass ... BUT he didn't break it up , never touched the player or the ball he was a flash by distraction at best ... Romo did say something like oh look at that Breakup by Bush right there ( in real time) but the slow mo showed he truly had nothing to do with is Yea that the one and didn't see the slow mo.

[HollywoodSteel]

In all fairness, there were a lot of players that were just playing a contain type defense and not committing to a tackle until Jackson committed to making his move. That was happening everywhere and is actually the proper way to play Jackson.

I did see Bush retreating a few times more than necessary but it is hard not to against Jackson.

Right, but the play that stuck in my mind wasn't what you'd probably call contain. Jackson had already run about nine yards down the field and it looked like Bush was backing up to avoid being the one to attempt the tackle. I couldn't see a contain advantage to it all. I don't think Bush being on his heels would have helped him not get juked if two of his teammates weren't there to make the tackle. I suppose in theory it could have been by design. Like if two players are converging, the third moves back as a stopgap in case Jackson makes the two guys miss. The only issue is Bush seemed like he was the closest player to Jackson, until he backed away, and was in position to make the tackle first.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I know the play you are speaking of , between the hash and the left sideline he was in coverage and extended out to break up the pass ... BUT he didn't break it up , never touched the player or the ball he was a flash by distraction at best ... Romo did say something like oh look at that Breakup by Bush right there ( in real time) but the slow mo showed he truly had nothing to do with is

I know he didn't.

some people just can't ever admit when they're wrong.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

I know he didn't.

some people just can't ever admit when they're wrong. I just said I didn't see the replay and look like it to me and apparently Romo too. Anyways Bush's shadow should get credit for that play.

[86WARD]

Right, but the play that stuck in my mind wasn't what you'd probably call contain. Jackson had already run about nine yards down the field and it looked like Bush was backing up to avoid being the one to attempt the tackle. I couldn't see a contain advantage to it all. I don't think Bush being on his heels would have helped him not get juked if two of his teammates weren't there to make the tackle. I suppose in theory it could have been by design. Like if two players are converging, the third moves back as a stopgap in case Jackson makes the two guys miss. The only issue is Bush seemed like he was the closest player to Jackson, until he backed away, and was in position to make the tackle first.

I know exactly what you are talking about. I thought it was odd as well…

[teegre]

Remember in “The Waterboy” when Bobby Boucher would visualize the opposing QB as someone who had previously taunted him? Bush just needs to imagine that the opposing QB is a cat…

[Fire Goodell]

Remember in “The Waterboy” when Bobby Boucher would visualize the opposing QB as someone who had previously taunted him? Bush just needs to imagine that the opposing QB is a cat…

YOUR name is needle dick!

[teegre]

YOUR name is needle dick!

Dogs… they suck… they suck, they suck, they suck!!!

Hey Bushy… Cat-erade is better.

[DesertSteel]

Watching some of the replay on NFL Network and keying on Bush some. It really appears that he's giving about 70% effort. I don't know how Tomlin can put up with that. I think Shazier could outplay him right now.

[hawaiiansteeler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvtjk7h2HqA

[Steeler-in-west]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvtjk7h2HqA


"nobodies playing up to their potential" ; i don't know about that - Ben, Cam, Najee, Watt, for starters are all busting their assess out there.

Devin's not too bright. I assume he had a meeting with Tomlin after this or will...

[Dwinsgames]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvtjk7h2HqA



dude is dumb as a rock too ..............

[teegre]

If one squints, there’s baaaarely any difference between Bush and Watt.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Is what Bush said really that bad? He is deflecting his own poor play sure but he is right that most Steelers are playing poorly this year, and that singling out individuals is inappropriate in a team game.

Only two starters are having their best year ever: Watt and Diontae.

Man, these young players sure do get jumped on regularly for innocent comments...

[pczach]

dude is dumb as a rock too ..............

That's right ......why single yourself out when you can call everyone else dogshit! :rofl:

[bayz101]

Is what Bush said really that bad? He is deflecting his own poor play sure but he is right that most Steelers are playing poorly this year, and that singling out individuals is inappropriate in a team game.

Only two starters are having their best year ever: Watt and Diontae.

Man, these young players sure do get jumped on regularly for innocent comments...

Good post, Devin Claypool. :chuckle: