Changes? Did Tomlin say anything of substance?

[DesertSteel]

Tomlin promises changes. Will there actually be any noticeable changes in the product this Sunday? My guess is there won't be, based on past promises of change.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32755087/mike-tomlin-promises-changes-slumping-pittsburgh-steelers

[Rotorhead]

Well, the Phins gave the blueprint on how to beat the Ravens, blitz every play. So we will not blitz once . . . To outsmart them.

[Mach1]

Unleash hell.

[Moose]

Does Tomlin ever say anything of substance ? There will be no change that will result in this team becoming a division contender. The offense, defense, special team, and coaches will be the same, so why expect different game results ? It's another big division game, but it's a big game for ravens too. I expect another bunghole type game.

[DesertSteel]

I think he could start by benching Bush.

[teegre]

I think he could start by benching Bush.

Five plays into the game, and Tomlin benched him. The only reason that Bush came back in was because Spillane got injured.

[Fire Goodell]

Hope Buddy Johnson gets a helmet

[teegre]

Hope Buddy Johnson gets a helmet

With Spillane out, he certainly will. :nod:

[DesertSteel]

Five plays into the game, and Tomlin benched him. The only reason that Bush came back in was because Spillane got injured.
Hopefully it sticks.

[ThorndikeFFA]

Unleash hell.

We're fresh out of hell.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Tomlin promises changes. Will there actually be any noticeable changes in the product this Sunday? My guess is there won't be, based on past promises of change.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32755087/mike-tomlin-promises-changes-slumping-pittsburgh-steelers

"When you have red paint, you paint your barn red."

[teegre]

Hopefully it sticks.

That… or, the benching revitalizes Bush’s career (a la Ike Taylor bring benched in 2006).

[Dwinsgames]

broad brush blah bla blah bla blah we don't seek comfort blah blah bla bla blah Ravens week blah blah blah bla global perspective blah blah bla bla blah put up shiut up blah blah blah

the message might be getting a bit old for some


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLxY752ySJI&ab_channel=PittsburghSteelers

[DesertSteel]

That… or, the benching revitalizes Bush’s career (a la Ike Taylor bring benched in 2006).
Thou art the king of optimism.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

That… or, the benching revitalizes Bush’s career (a la Ike Taylor bring benched in 2006).

Blasphemy!........How dare you propose a positive scenario for a 23 year old player that is coming back from a major ACL injury.

You must treat him like Bud Dupree and note that he will never succeed in the NFL.

[Dwinsgames]

Blasphemy!........How dare you propose a positive scenario for a 23 year old player that is coming back from a major ACL injury.

You must treat him like Bud Dupree and note that he will never succeed in the NFL.


does this look like a player who is striving to get better or even giving a shit for that matter ??


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[Mojouw]

That… or, the benching revitalizes Bush’s career (a la Ike Taylor bring benched in 2006).

No, no, no. C'mon man a COWHER POWER benching had impact and gravitas. A Sunglasses Tomlin benching is just a nonsense move for a coach that has no ideas.

You know this. You're better than this.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

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[Shoes]

Give Vince a ring and see if he wants to play.

[Steeler-in-west]

Blasphemy!........How dare you propose a positive scenario for a 23 year old player that is coming back from a major ACL injury.

You must treat him like Bud Dupree and note that he will never succeed in the NFL.

ok, if he can’t perform because of his ACL tear shouldn’t this have been figured out at the beginning of the season through practice and training camp? Instead of throwing him out there and watching the team get gashed week after week? This is why I have little to no faith in this coaching staff

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

ok, if he can’t perform because of his ACL tear shouldn’t this have been figured out at the beginning of the season through practice and training camp? Instead of throwing him out there and watching the team get gashed week after week? This is why I have little to no faith in this coaching staff

Yeah, maybe the felt that recovering Devin Bush was better than healthy Night Train Spillane? But as Vince eludes to ...."the team getting gashed week after week", is bigger than Devin Bush, but he is an easy scapegoat for the media and fans.

Still, does giving up on a 23 year old player coming off a substantial ACL tear make sense? Does D-bag on sports writing an article singling him out make sense, or is it just clickbait from a media hack trying to manufacture a hot take? I am still not sure why some people take the bait from these lousy hacks with a podcast, or blog.

[steelreserve]

They will sign Isaiah Green and then cut him after the game.

[Fire Goodell]

I wanna see what Buddy can do. Vince Williams started as a R6 pick and called the defenses in his rookie year, so next man up

[Steeler-in-west]

Yeah, maybe the felt that recovering Devin Bush was better than healthy Night Train Spillane? But as Vince eludes to ...."the team getting gashed week after week", is bigger than Devin Bush, but he is an easy scapegoat for the media and fans.

Still, does giving up on a 23 year old player coming off a substantial ACL tear make sense? Does D-bag on sports writing an article singling him out make sense, or is it just clickbait from a media hack trying to manufacture a hot take? I am still not sure why some people take the bait from these lousy hacks with a podcast, or blog.

considering they’ve been benching Bush for Spillane shows that maybe they swung and missed on that pre season evaluation. They seem to be making a lot errors in their evaluations lately

I agree on the media reports, a lot of it is hearsay and rumor - not fair to the players. There is a lot of misinformation out there in the sports world - if there is responsible journalism it’s hard to sift throw and find

[86WARD]

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He’s not wrong…

[Dwinsgames]

He’s not wrong…

but clearly Vince didnt see where Bush stood there and did nothing ....

there is injury issues that keep a player from performing up to standard and then there is standing there doing nothing , two completely different things ... you will NEVER make a play you first do not attempt to make

[DesertSteel]

but clearly Vince didnt see where Bush stood there and did nothing ....

there is injury issues that keep a player from performing up to standard and then there is standing there doing nothing , two completely different things ... you will NEVER make a play you first do not attempt to make
Yeah Bush is as soft as charmin.

[86WARD]

but clearly Vince didnt see where Bush stood there and did nothing ....

there is injury issues that keep a player from performing up to standard and then there is standing there doing nothing , two completely different things ... you will NEVER make a play you first do not attempt to make

He wasn’t always like this though. There was a time when people thought he was the real deal and he performed like it…then he got injured.

[Steel Peon]

I would never use Bush as the scapegoat, nor should anyone else, because the whole team looks like crap currently. That he might be the crappiest is just incidental, and fixing or replacing him won't matter all that much, though he definitely needs fixed or replaced.

[Dissolv]

I've got to be honest here......what exactly can Tomlin do, at this point?

[steelreserve]

I've got to be honest here......what exactly can Tomlin do, at this point?

Defend every blade of grass, duh.

But seriously - not much he can do to change course halfway through the season. This team's issues are, however, a reflection on preparation that goes back months and decisions that go back months or years, and he has a hand in all of it. They built it into what it is, and at this point it's on rails until the end of the season. If there's any move we can make now that might help in coming seasons, I'd be all for it, but I don't know what that is.

[Dwinsgames]

He wasn’t always like this though. There was a time when people thought he was the real deal and he performed like it…then he got injured.

but he is like that now ............

if you are not going to give effort get off the field period

[86WARD]

but he is like that now ............

if you are not going to give effort get off the field period

So what happened to make him this way? Something just snap in his head? Is he hesitant with the recovery? Is he still not fully recovered? Did the year away from football just empty his head and he forgot how to play?

[Shoes]

So what happened to make him this way? Something just snap in his head? Is he hesitant with the recovery? Is he still not fully recovered? Did the year away from football just empty his head and he forgot how to play?


What I don't understand is he is moving well, tackling is the issue imo. But that has plagued this team for years. Its a good thing pilots don't forget how to takeoff and land aircraft. :chuckle:

[teegre]

Mondeaux to start at NT.

Desperate times…

I honestly thought that we’d see two things: 1) Green moving to guard, and 2) Tuitt returning (although the second one is merely wishful thinking on my part).

[Dwinsgames]

Mondeaux to start at NT.

Desperate times…

I honestly thought that we’d see two things: 1) Green moving to guard, and 2) Tuitt returning (although the second one is merely wishful thinking on my part).

you may have seen Green to guard is JC hadn't went to IR .... still one must wonder why they didn't put Finney in at Center , he has played it well in the past for them too , that tells me they have little faith in Green as a guard too or at least makes me consider it ....

no excuse to not insert Buddy Johnson in at ILB in place of Bush , simply nothing to lose here whether he is ready or not he cant be worse than what we have witnessed of Bush ...

Mondeaux at Nose isnt going to be a solution or even bandaid IMO he isnt a stand your ground player he is a upfield kind of guy , I do not believe he can be the anchor / fireplug this team desperately needs , is Khalil Davis that Bad ( supposedly better than his Brother who is on IR that has played snaps at NT and did ok )

color me confused to say the least

[DesertSteel]

So what happened to make him this way? Something just snap in his head? Is he hesitant with the recovery? Is he still not fully recovered? Did the year away from football just empty his head and he forgot how to play?
Maybe the same mental issues that caused him to tweet all that bizarre stuff in the offseason...

[86WARD]

Maybe the same mental issues that caused him to tweet all that bizarre stuff in the offseason...

Could be…

[Steeler-in-west]

more padded practices. Without an effective Devin Bush and Watt out, i don't know how effective that will be.

Would assume this would be Highsmith's time to step up but he hasn't either. No one has stepped up except Cam.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

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[HollywoodSteel]

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I can't wait for him to say time is a relative construct.

[teegre]

The changes were Leglue at RG and Adams at NT.

Both were excellent moves!!!

[86WARD]

The changes were Leglue at RG and Adams at NT.

Both were excellent moves!!!

Tomlin doesn’t get enough credit for personnel moves under duress…

[DesertSteel]

The changes were Leglue at RG and Adams at NT.

Both were excellent moves!!!
Now, what unknown can replace Bush that might bring a similar result?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Tomlin doesn’t get enough credit for personnel moves under duress…

You know who could make some great player moves?...Cowher.

Tomlin cant win unless he makes personnel adjustments with Cowher's same rationale, or assistant coaches/players.

[HollywoodSteel]

You know who could make some great player moves?...Cowher.

Tomlin cant win unless he makes personnel adjustments with Cowher's same rationale, or assistant coaches/players.

I had a suspicion that Leglue and Adams were really Cowher's players. :)

[teegre]

Now, what unknown can replace Bush that might bring a similar result?

Here are some options:

-a traffic cone
-any octogenarian
-Antonio Brown

[86WARD]

Here are some options:

-a traffic cone
-any octogenarian
-Antonio Brown

I think he’s talking about on field…

[DesertSteel]

I think he’s talking about on field…
A traffic cone would work, slightly better.

[Mach1]

Here are some options:

-a traffic cone
-any octogenarian
-Antonio Brown

A garden gnome.

[86WARD]

A traffic cone would work, slightly better.

Good point. Cone won’t move out of the way.