Game balls vs. Broncos.

[Edman]

2-3.

Balls: Najee Harris was outstanding. Ben with two touchdown throws. Looked much better today.

Goats: Harris' injury. 4th Quarter Defense.

[stillers4me]

Side note: JuJu is at the hospital.

[RunNGun]

Gameballs

Offense: Harris showed why he was our first round pick. I'll give some props to the OL as well. They opened up some nice holes for Najee. Diontae made some big plays, so he gets one too.

Defense: Cam was a monster today.

Goats: Ballage is worse than Snell. Pierre didn't have a good game, but the int made up for it.

[that1guy]

Balls to The offensive line, Najee and Boz

[Shoes]

Ball: Canada, (after I questioned his play calling last week) Harris, Ben, (even with some bad throws), Clay, Johnson, all the TE's, Most of the oline, Cam, Boz

Goat: 2nd half D, snell

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Side note: JuJu is at the hospital.

They seem to be saying its his shoulder, but I'm afraid his upper arm may be broke. I hope not.

[pczach]

Side note: JuJu is at the hospital.



That sucks. Hope Juju is OK and recovers very soon.

Thanks for the update.

[Fire Goodell]

Najee, seems like this season is gonna be like the 90s, the run game has to do well or it’s a loss

[stillers4me]

Speaking of Boz....wrap that man in bubble wrap.

Did you seeing how many missed FG there were in Cinci today.......5!!!

[Mojouw]

From the little I was able to watch. It seemed that the line was better AND the Steelers attempted to make plays over the middle of the field. Was that the case? Or was the Claypool TD an outlier?

[tube517]

Game ball: Najee, Claypool, DJ, Matt America, OL for improving but Chuks is automatic flag every week.

[EzraTank]

Speaking of Boz....wrap that man in bubble wrap.

Did you seeing how many missed FG there were in Cinci today.......5!!!

Yeah, thank God GB finally made one and handed Cincy a loss.

[Rotorhead]

Balls - Najee, OL, Ben, 1st half defense

Goats - Injuries, 2nd half defense

Special shout out to Pierre, he didn’t have the best game (aside from he was covering a top WR) but came through at the end when it mattered.

The bye can’t come soon enough. We should get Banner, Tuitt, Sutton all back and TJ at 100%. Then we can see what th future holds for this team. If what we saw today from the OL means they are finally starting to gel (which was my hope from before the season, thinking we would be 3-3 and at the bye we would know if the OL was trending up or down and with then the season) then our running game should start making some strides and take the pressure off Ben and the passing game.

[Rotorhead]

From the little I was able to watch. It seemed that the line was better AND the Steelers attempted to make plays over the middle of the field. Was that the case? Or was the Claypool TD an outlier?

Yes, a few connected passes over the middle, but honestly the OL blocking and opening up holes for Najee is what sparked the passing offense he was pushing and carrying defenders 5yds and juking them out of their shoes, and we only had one drive killing drop that I recall (Najee on 3rd) and one poor 3rd and long short pass that had no chance of getting a 1st.

[RunNGun]

Najee, seems like this season is gonna be like the 90s, the run game has to do well or it’s a loss

Agreed. It was pretty telling to me how confident they are in Ben when they got the ball at around the 1:40 mark in the second quarter and they were content with going into the half instead of possibly turning the ball over.

If the running game can stay consistent then I believe we can win a lot of games much similar to the Kordell/Bus days.

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Yes, a few connected passes over the middle, but honestly the OL blocking and opening up holes for Najee is what sparked the passing offense he was pushing and carrying defenders 5yds and juking them out of their shoes, and we only had one drive killing drop that I recall (Najee on 3rd) and one poor 3rd and long short pass that had no chance of getting a 1st.

The drop by White was pretty bad.

[Hawkman]

Honorable Mention for Harvin, only punted it twice, but his average was 59.5, with a long of 63.

[Rotorhead]

Gameball to the Chargers for beating the Browns!

[Steeler-in-west]

Gameballs to Najee, the o line for playing better, Pierre for the TD saving tackle that forced a FG, and Boz for his consistency

No goats, feels like forever since the Steelers won a game

[BlackAndGold]

the o-line is getting better every week. Ben had some nice moments today. The Claypool TD was a dart.

[Edman]

Najee, seems like this season is gonna be like the 90s, the run game has to do well or it’s a loss

Ben is strictly an O'Donnell/Tomczak level game manager at this point in his career. He can no longer perform at a high level so the Offense can no longer run through him anymore (as in, 40-50 passes a game). If it comes down to Ben to make something happen, then the Steelers are in trouble. Take the pressure off of Ben with the run game.

The Offensive Line, and the Running game has to step up big time the rest of the year.

[stillers4me]

Ben is strictly an O'Donnell/Tomczak level game manager at this point in his career. He can no longer perform at a high level so the Offense can no longer run through him anymore (as in, 40-50 passes a game). If it comes down to Ben to make something happen, then the Steelers are in trouble. Take the pressure off of Ben with the run game and avoid situations where he'll potentially turn the ball over.

The Offensive Line, and the Running game has to step up big time the rest of the year..https://media2.giphy.com/media/6TEuRwMLGVyYEHQshx/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7blgx8hov479i3qmv7220nh9gsh6f egor7gv9iz8w&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[DesertSteel]

The o-line was solid. Even on the sack-fumble, Ben had 5 seconds before the hit. He needed to be more decisive. That was on him.

[Hawkman]

Ben is strictly an O'Donnell/Tomczak level game manager at this point in his career. He can no longer perform at a high level so the Offense can no longer run through him anymore (as in, 40-50 passes a game). If it comes down to Ben to make something happen, then the Steelers are in trouble. Take the pressure off of Ben with the run game.

The Offensive Line, and the Running game has to step up big time the rest of the year.

So I guess you don’t consider that perfect throw to Johnson on the 6th play of the game for a TD, “ making something happen”?

[bayz101]

So I guess you don’t consider that perfect throw to Johnson on the 6th play of the game for a TD, “ making something happen”?

Or the absolute dart to Claypool? I think people need to allow the offensive line to continue to progress and receivers to continue to create separation. The only bad play I can think of being on Ben was the fumble and NONE of the receivers were able to beat man coverage on the play.

It happens. If anything I think Ben is losing the football on hits more at this point in his career, but to judge him or the offense on the shitty sample size we've had thus far is stupid.

Then again I feel like some people would rather be right in their criticism than acknowledge success or put a positive stamp on something without excuses or negativity. If you're looking for things to be wrong, you'll find them.

[86WARD]

Gameballs: Ben, Harris, Receivers, Canada. I didn’t realize how many personnel decisions that Ben makes while on the field. Being at the game, he was pulling/requesting certain players on and off the field. I saw him do it on at least three occasions (Freiermuth, Ebron, Ballage). Canada did exactly what the Tavens did to stretch the Broncos pass rush further outside by spreading the TEs and receivers spilts further out, forcing the DEs/OLBs further out. By the time they got in, the OTs were set and waiting. It was nice work on getting Ben some extra time.

Goats: Steelers 4th quarter defense and the call to throw a couple yards instead of going for the first down.

[Mojouw]

Ben made a small handful of good throws. At one point he’d completed less than 50% of his passes. He missed multiple open guys in just the half game I saw.

Don’t let good results blind you to bad process. Most of this board had Ben triumphantly winning an MVP as he led an unbeaten juggernaut through the playoffs last season. Meanwhile the signs were all there that he was struggling and diminished.

Two TDs don’t change the underlying reality. It pushes the ceiling of that reality up a bit.

But, Edman and others are correct. Ben needs to complement other components of the offense/team. He’s no longer the main ingredient.

[JayC]

im not here to bash ben but he was a couple lucky int drops way from being #1 goat. he did good enough, looked more accurate overall this week when it counted.

[Rotorhead]

Ben made a small handful of good throws. At one point he’d completed less than 50% of his passes. He missed multiple open guys in just the half game I saw.

Don’t let good results blind you to bad process. Most of this board had Ben triumphantly winning an MVP as he led an unbeaten juggernaut through the playoffs last season. Meanwhile the signs were all there that he was struggling and diminished.

Two TDs don’t change the underlying reality. It pushes the ceiling of that reality up a bit.

But, Edman and others are correct. Ben needs to complement other components of the offense/team. He’s no longer the main ingredient.

I don’t think most ppl here are saying the offense needs all pro Ben (I certainly wasn’t) but that our OL and running game needed to step up and balance out offense. Today’s play was indicative of how our offense needs to work for a successful season.

[86WARD]

Ben made a small handful of good throws. At one point he’d completed less than 50% of his passes. He missed multiple open guys in just the half game I saw.

Don’t let good results blind you to bad process. Most of this board had Ben triumphantly winning an MVP as he led an unbeaten juggernaut through the playoffs last season. Meanwhile the signs were all there that he was struggling and diminished.

Two TDs don’t change the underlying reality. It pushes the ceiling of that reality up a bit.

But, Edman and others are correct. Ben needs to complement other components of the offense/team. He’s no longer the main ingredient.

He actually made a lot of good throws and throws that were right on target that receivers dropped. He was far better today than he had been earlier in the season.

[teegre]

Or the absolute dart to Claypool? I think people need to allow the offensive line to continue to progress and receivers to continue to create separation. The only bad play I can think of being on Ben was the fumble and NONE of the receivers were able to beat man coverage on the play.

It happens. If anything I think Ben is losing the football on hits more at this point in his career, but to judge him or the offense on the shitty sample size we've had thus far is stupid.

Then again I feel like some people would rather be right in their criticism than acknowledge success or put a positive stamp on something without excuses or negativity. If you're looking for things to be wrong, you'll find them.

BAYZ is here!!! :willy:

[Fire Goodell]

BAYZ is here!!! :willy:

now we just need buddha bus back lol

[teegre]

now we just need buddha bus back lol

:applaudit: That would be awesome!!!

[Edman]

So I guess you don’t consider that perfect throw to Johnson on the 6th play of the game for a TD, “ making something happen”?

Ben has been hitting those types of throws all season, even at his worst. Even Rudolph can make that throw. Ben did it against the Packers the week prior before he started his melt down. The Claypool touchdown was legitimately a good throw. But he also had several other bad ones that should've been intercepted, and he tacked on a turnover that gave Denver a field goal.

Ben had himself a decent game, but mostly because he wasn't asked to do much as he was usually asked to do. He had 25 attempts, and he had his best game all season. But none of this is possible without the O Line improving.

Again, it all depends on the O-Line and running game. They are the engine that makes this offense go.

[hawaiiansteeler]

now we just need buddha bus back lol

I miss harrison'samonster.

I never get any likes anymore.

[Steeler-in-west]

Just let the o line continue to improve, TJ gets healthy and we get our pass rush back, and Ben plays competent mistake free football and we have a shot of still making some noise this season (I’ve accepted that pre elbow surgery Ben ain’t coming back)

[Steeler-in-west]

I miss harrison'samonster.

I never get any likes anymore.

Bringing back memories with those names…Steeler Canada, Tony, a lot of good posters…

[86WARD]

Ben has been hitting those types of throws all season, even at his worst. Even Rudolph can make that throw. Ben did it against the Packers the week prior before he started his melt down. The Claypool touchdown was legitimately a good throw. But he also had several other bad ones that should've been intercepted, and he tacked on a turnover that gave Denver a field goal.

Ben had himself a decent game, but mostly because he wasn't asked to do much as he was usually asked to do. He had 25 attempts, and he had his best game all season. But none of this is possible without the O Line improving.

Again, it all depends on the O-Line and running game. They are the engine that makes this offense go.

You can say that about any QB on any given Sunday. Mahomes had bad throws. Rodgers had bad throws. Prescott had terrible throws, Herbert had terrible throws…the list is pretty long. You’re just piling on because it’s Ben and trying to fit a season long narrative. Ben wasn’t even remotely close to as bad as he’s been and had far more “good throws”/“tight window throws” then bad throws yesterday.

[teegre]

Some plays that deserve some attention:

Claypool sliding (as opposed to being forced out of bounds). It took another 30 seconds off of the clock. Smart.

Pierre intercepting the ball on fourth down. Normally, on fourth down, the mantra is “knock it down.” But, intercepting that ball moved it out to the 20 yard line… giving the offense room to kneel down.

Minkah’s reaction to Pierre’s INT. If at any point yesterday, you were as happy as Minkah was at that moment, then you had an excellent day.

Ben’s TD to Claypool. Across the middle/between the hash marks AND deep… check and check.

DJ’s run after the catch. Last week, DJ ran sideways. Someone coached him up to go forward… and his “run after the catch” was one of the best I’ve seen in a while.

Najee. He was great. There was one stutter-step that was beautiful. Not quite Barry Sanders (who is???), but I got that same feeling.

Heyward. Pick a play. The dude is playing the BEST defense of anyone on this team… maybe even the entire league.

[tube517]

Some plays that deserve some attention:

Claypool sliding (as opposed to being forced out of bounds). It took another 30 seconds off of the clock. Smart.

Pierre intercepting the ball on fourth down. Normally, on fourth down, the mantra is “knock it down.” But, intercepting that ball moved it out to the 20 yard line… giving the offense room to kneel down.

Minkah’s reaction to Pierre’s INT. If at any point yesterday, you were as happy as Minkah was at that moment, then you had an excellent day.

Ben’s TD to Claypool. Across the middle/between the hash marks AND deep… check and check.

DJ’s run after the catch. Last week, DJ ran sideways. Someone coached him up to go forward… and his “run after the catch” was one of the best I’ve seen in a while.

Najee. He was great. There was one stutter-step that was beautiful. Not quite Barry Sanders (who is???), but I got that same feeling.

Heyward. Pick a play. The dude is playing the BEST defense of anyone on this team… maybe even the entire league.

Pierre tackling Javonte. Saved a TD and Bush gets the sack in that drive.

[DesertSteel]

Yeah Pierre affected 11 points with those two splash plays.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Yeah Pierre affected 11 points with those two splash plays.

True, but he is also putting up tape that says a speed receiver can beat him on a straight 9 if he doesnt have safety help. Something that he needs to work on in his game and the Steelers need to work on disguising coverages or scheming some safety help to him in situations.

[Mojouw]

True, but he is also putting up tape that says a speed receiver can beat him on a straight 9 if he doesnt have safety help. Something that he needs to work on in his game and the Steelers need to work on disguising coverages or scheming some safety help to him in situations.

True. To be fair, all the Steelers corners are putting that on tape this season. Witherspoon was supposed to provide that missing element of speed and be able to turn and run with WRs down the field. Oops. He got roasted when they tried that.

[Fire Goodell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsH2iJemrnA

Good to finally see a game plan with a commitment to the run game. I honestly think Najee looks plenty fast compared to all the RBs we had since Mendenhall. He looks a lot quicker than Bell tbh.

His run style reminds me a little of Marshawn Lynch. The guy never stops moving his legs after contact and consistently picks up extra yards where most backs would've been stopped. Like Lynch, he doesn't look like a 'big' RB, but he definitely runs with a lot of power.

[tube517]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsH2iJemrnA

Good to finally see a game plan with a commitment to the run game. I honestly think Najee looks plenty fast compared to all the RBs we had since Mendenhall. He looks a lot quicker than Bell tbh.

His run style reminds me a little of Marshawn Lynch. The guy never stops moving his legs after contact and consistently picks up extra yards where most backs would've been stopped. Like Lynch, he doesn't look like a 'big' RB, but he definitely runs with a lot of power.

That GB DB that tried to tackle Najee is on IR now.

[teegre]

Pierre tackling Javonte. Saved a TD and Bush gets the sack in that drive.

I had forgotten about that!!! His hustle play/tackle saved 4 points. :nod:

[pczach]

I miss harrison'samonster.

I never get any likes anymore.



It's a shame everyone here only gets to interact with the B-team from Steelers Fever. :grin:

[Mojouw]

Zach Gentry.

He is playing well enough to make 2 TEs an actual viable package. Why does that matter?

Because he was on the field during Claypool's big 50+ yard play. So what? That kept the Broncos in base. Which meant Von Miller was in coverage on Claypool.

So Claypool gets an "easy" big play because Gentry finally learned how to block. That's cool.

[pczach]

Zach Gentry.

He is playing well enough to make 2 TEs an actual viable package. Why does that matter?

Because he was on the field during Claypool's big 50+ yard play. So what? That kept the Broncos in base. Which meant Von Miller was in coverage on Claypool.

So Claypool gets an "easy" big play because Gentry finally learned how to block. That's cool.



While Ebron continues to do Ebron things with no improvement.

I really hoped he would embrace the position and make a real effort with his blocking, but I think we are seeing all that Ebron will ever be.

It's nice to see Gentry's overall game continue to improve and see him contribute more.

[Mojouw]

While Ebron continues to do Ebron things with no improvement.

I really hoped he would embrace the position and make a real effort with his blocking, but I think we are seeing all that Ebron will ever be.

It's nice to see Gentry's overall game continue to improve and see him contribute more.

Ebron is exactly what he has always been. And for pre-elbow injury Steelers offense, he would have really been a solid mid tier FA addition to the offense. But as the role of the TE has changed...he's just not really a fit anymore.

Also, Gentry is by far the best blocking TE on the roster. Appears to be solidly on the Matt Spaeth career track.

[86WARD]

Zach Gentry.

He is playing well enough to make 2 TEs an actual viable package. Why does that matter?

Because he was on the field during Claypool's big 50+ yard play. So what? That kept the Broncos in base. Which meant Von Miller was in coverage on Claypool.

So Claypool gets an "easy" big play because Gentry finally learned how to block. That's cool.

I’ve been saying Gentry is serviceable for a long time. Glad he’s making me look right…for once…lol

[hawaiiansteeler]

It's a shame everyone here only gets to interact with the B-team from Steelers Fever. :grin:

what a shame, nobody ever physically threatens teegre anymore.

[pczach]

what a shame, nobody ever physically threatens teegre anymore.




That really is a shame.

Also, as far as I can tell, nobody here thinks Hitler was a dude with some pretty good ideas........Ah, the good old days!

[fansince'76]

what a shame, nobody ever physically threatens teegre anymore.

Speaking of which, if teegre doesn't shut his piehole, I'm gonna give him a vacation from walking! :chuckle:


Also, as far as I can tell, nobody here thinks Hitler was a dude with some pretty good ideas........Ah, the good old days!

Hitler was just misunderstood - he was really trying to help the Jews and save the world from Stalin! :chuckle:

[Hawkman]

……………..come here……can someone close this thread…….NOW?…

[hawaiiansteeler]

……………..come here……can someone close this thread…….NOW?…

https://nationalzoo.si.edu/sites/default/files/beaver-well-dam_0.jpg

[teegre]

Speaking of which, if teegre doesn't shut his piehole, I'm gonna give him a vacation from walking! :chuckle:



Hitler was just misunderstood - he was really trying to help the Jews and save the world from Stalin! :chuckle:

Ten years… and I’m still waiting. Scrotis does not keep his promises. Sheesh, and I certainly could use a vacation.

Three people walk into a bar: a racist, a Taperiots fan, and a nut job. That’s enough about TAPES18N1; let me tell you about the other two guys.