2021 - Week 3 - Bengals @ Steelers

[Steeler-in-west]

And to think.

This is THE BEST we have at quarterback.

He’s grandfathered in

[86WARD]

There is a version that the longer passes are not happening because the WRs are failing to get open.

Based on what I can see in the short passing game, there is a TON going wrong that has nothing to do with the WRs being open or not. I assume the exact same is happening in the deep game.

And because the QB knows he is no longer accurate and precise, he will NOT throw in between the hashes or into small windows. Therefore, he pumps and pulls it down while waiting to only take moonball shots along the sideline that minimize the chance of an INT. Additionally, this lack of faith in throwing ability and desire to avoid INTS at all costs has totally removed the intermediate passing game as well.

This creates a passing attack with like 4 routes in it. That is why it looks so bad. The end.

It’s clearly the reason he’s holding the ball. You can’t say the receivers are open downfield and then have Ben holding the ball forever, scrambling and the announcers saying the receivers aren’t open. Those are pretty clear signs as to why he’s not throwing it. Accuracy has nothing to do with the argument as to if the receivers downfield are open or not.

[Shoes]

Our O & D are trying to outdo each other :chuckle:

[86WARD]

Getting ugly…lol.

That’s how an O-Line should block.

[NCSteeler]

Why do they jump over burrow? You hit that fcuker as hard as you can. He a runner fair game. Why the fuck would you jump over him

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[that1guy]

Is there any question that the Steelers are the worst team in the AFC North?

[EzraTank]

Wow look what a young QB can do with young receivers.

[86WARD]

Is there any question that the Steelers are the worst team in the AFC North?

Just the AFC North?

[pczach]

Why do they jump over burrow? You hit that fcuker as hard as you can. He a runner fair game. Why the fuck would you jump over him

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Last time they touched him, they called a personal foul penalty. :chuckle:

[that1guy]

Just the AFC North?

Lol

[NCSteeler]

Last time they touched him, they called a personal foul penalty. :chuckle:We'll deck his ass every down then

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[86WARD]

Wow look what a young QB can do with young receivers.

And a competent O-Line and playbook.

[Mojouw]

It’s clearly the reason he’s holding the ball. You can’t say the receivers are open downfield and then have Ben holding the ball forever, scrambling and the announcers saying the receivers aren’t open. Those are pretty clear signs as to why he’s not throwing it. Accuracy has nothing to do with the argument as to if the receivers downfield are open or not.

It does. That is my point. If you are ONLY willing to throw to WRs that are open by 3 steps on a go route down the sideline, it super-duper limits you. If you are NOT throwing the in breaking curl at 15 yards along the left hash because the WR only has a small narrow window that you can not hit reliably....that's gonna be a problem.

[Edman]

They said Ben has a pectoral injury. There's your excuse.

Sit him down.

[steelcityboyz]

Ben is just embarrassing himself now

[pczach]

Wow look what a young QB can do with young receivers.




You mean the young QB standing in the pocket for 30 seconds with no pass rusher within 5 yards of him throwing to a young receiver open by 5 yards in single coverage?

Hell.....I can succeed in that situation.

[NCSteeler]

It does. That is my point. If you are ONLY willing to throw to WRs that are open by 3 steps on a go route down the sideline, it super-duper limits you. If you are NOT throwing the in breaking curl at 15 yards along the left hash because the WR only has a small narrow window that you can not hit reliably....that's gonna be a problem.Except I watch a to n of other games where the WRs run free app and the QB barely throws a tight window ball

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[86WARD]

Make up call…

[86WARD]

Good play to drop that ball.

[EzraTank]

Ben is just embarrassing himself now

I was watching the Phillies/Pirates game last night and the broadcasters had Brian Dawkins from the Eagles on and he said he knew it was time. He said he remembered watching his heroes stay past their prime and never wanted to be that guy.

That's Ben right now.

[NCSteeler]

This team is just BAD, buy what makes the so bad?

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[steelcityboyz]

unreal

[dislocatedday]

Just the AFC North?

The only team that is clearly worse in the AFC are the Jets...........I am not even sure the Steelers are better than the Texans right now.

[86WARD]

Even Boz trying to shit the bed.

[Edman]

And Boz misses.

The Suck is infecting the team.

[Mojouw]

Except I watch a to n of other games where the WRs run free app and the QB barely throws a tight window ball

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because other teams force defense to cover the entire field. The Steelers are basically telling teams you only have to defend the sideline and within 4 yards of the line of scirmmage. Hard to scheme guys open when the defense knows that you won't be going over the middle beyond 4 yards.

[Shoes]

So who is off the page here? Ben or Clay?

[EzraTank]

Claypool was open down the middle and Ben missed badly.

LOL now Boz joins the suck.

[pczach]

Ben looked bad on those last two throws. I don't know what that last throw was about unless he thought the receiver was supposed to break outside.

[Mojouw]

That was there and then there was that throw

[Edman]

Claypool was open down the middle and Ben missed badly.

LOL now Boz joins the suck.

The Offensive Line did this.

[Mojouw]

Ben looked bad on those last two throws. I don't know what that last throw was about unless he thought the receiver was supposed to break outside.

Maybe. I thought about that as I hit enter on my last post. But still...Claypool got open.

[Rotorhead]

And Boz misses the FG, complete team failure, every aspect of the game today failed

[NCSteeler]

because other teams force defense to cover the entire field. The Steelers are basically telling teams you only have to defend the sideline and within 4 yards of the line of scirmmage. Hard to scheme guys open when the defense knows that you won't be going over the middle beyond 4 yards.Except when they send claypool deep he's covered , idk what the deal is

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[steelcityboyz]

because other teams force defense to cover the entire field. The Steelers are basically telling teams you only have to defend the sideline and within 4 yards of the line of scirmmage. Hard to scheme guys open when the defense knows that you won't be going over the middle beyond 4 yards.Coaching lack of game plan lack of adjustments? or lack of talent? curious to know your take.

[pczach]

That was there and then there was that throw



He had Claypool. That was a horrible throw.

The second one I don't know because it looked like he threw it to the other side. Either way it looked bad.

[stillers4me]

And a competent O-Line and playbook.Ding ding ding!

[steelcityboyz]

The Offensive Line did this.LOL

[Rotorhead]

He had Claypool. That was a horrible throw.

The second one I don't know because it looked like he threw it to the other side. Either way it looked bad.

I don’t know it was a bad throw, the ball was in the air when Claypool cut in, It looked to me like Ben thought he was going out and Claypool took it inside. I will say it was a bad decision by Ben as Claypool was open inside.

[86WARD]

Have we ever really seen Claypool open on a deep pass? Definitely not in 2021…

[EzraTank]

Have we ever really seen Claypool open on a deep pass? Definitely not in 2021…

He was open on that last throw if Ben throws it inside.

[Shoes]

Have we ever really seen Claypool open on a deep pass? Definitely not in 2021…

WR will be an early draft pick in April

[stillers4me]

Rib injury for JuJu. Will not return.

[Mojouw]

Coaching lack of game plan lack of adjustments? or lack of talent? curious to know your take.

The QB can't make the throws. The gameplan is limited by design to protect the team from his diminished physical skills.

[86WARD]

JuJu out now too. Lol.

[EzraTank]

LOL, Juju out.

[86WARD]

Another penalty on the O-Line.

[steelcityboyz]

The QB can't make the throws. The gameplan is limited by design to protect the team from his diminished physical skills.agreed :drink:

[86WARD]

So much for Tomlin’s .500 or better streak…

[Shoes]

2 or 3 on #76 today

[EzraTank]

Ray ray open, thrown high and behind him. Just ugly.

[dislocatedday]

If this absolutely horrid play keeps up in the games going forward (...which I think it will..) does Tomlin go on the hot seat?

[Edman]

We saw the signs back in January 2021, but no one wanted to listen.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

This team needs a Enema!

[steelcityboyz]

If this absolutely horrid play keeps up in the games going forward (...which I think it will..) does Tomlin go on the hot seat?Tomlin needs to grow a set and make some changes. Starting with Ben, It's not going to get any better what has he got to lose?

[EzraTank]

If this absolutely horrid play keeps up in the games going forward (...which I think it will..) does Tomlin go on the hot seat?

Not yet. He'll get a chance with a new QB then he will.

At this rate we may have the #1 overall pick.

[86WARD]

We saw the signs back in January 2021, but no one wanted to listen.

Yep. Poor QB Play. Poor O-Line Play. Dropped Passes. Receivers Not Open. Defense Gets Tired and Breaks. Poor Play Design. All still here and thriving.

[Mach1]

Tomlin needs to grow a set and make some changes. Starting with Ben, It's not going to get any better what has he got to lose?

It'll be the same stale game plan next week.

[pczach]

Looks like they are going with new WRs.

[steelcityboyz]

It'll be the same stale game plan next week.Yep bet it.

[steelerdude15]

If this absolutely horrid play keeps up in the games going forward (...which I think it will..) does Tomlin go on the hot seat?

I doubt it. If Noll and Cowher could have multiple losing seasons and not get fired, the Steelers won’t fire Tomlin nor really put him on the hot seat since he hasn’t had a losing season yet.

[EzraTank]

Najee is going to be a stud when he gets a team around him.

[Steeler-in-west]

Ben looking better with the game almost out of reach

[86WARD]

Pocket collapsing with just four rushers.

[86WARD]

Looks like they are going with new WRs.

Everyone else is injured including Claypool…

[Edman]

Ben looking better with the game almost out of reach

As is always the case.

[EzraTank]

LOL that sums up today.

[pczach]

Hope Claypool is OK. Great throw by Ben there. Probably a TD if not mauled.

[Edman]

Ben looking better with the game almost out of reach

Defense playing prevent and letting Ben eat all the underneath stuff and burn clock.

Clowns will say he played good, and say he's not a problem.

[EzraTank]

How did McCloud get that back?

[dislocatedday]

I mean there is pass interference, but why go deep on 3rd and 1..........absolutely F$%kin stupid play choice.

[pczach]

Muuuuth.............:boom:

[86WARD]

Again right through the hands of the receiver. Ben throwing too hard. Lol.

[EzraTank]

That should have been a 5 yard hold, not PI.

[Steeler-in-west]

With Watt and highsmith back next week that should fix the defense

the offense? Better o line play should materialize but do you keep letting Ben get beat up or try Rudolph? Offense has to move the chains

[NCSteeler]

These payments are out of shape. Whoever is in charge of that need stop go

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[dislocatedday]

ok, that was a nice throw to Washington out to the sideline.

[pczach]

That should have been a 5 yard hold, not PI.



Are you rooting for the other team now?

[86WARD]

Whatever plays they run now, the receivers get open. Defense still playing the same way they have been.

[86WARD]

Pocket collapses almost instantly with just a four man rush. Followed up with another O-Line penalty.

[pczach]

These refs seem to always have a say in the Steelers fate today....and not in a good way.

[steelcityboyz]

Just sad The End.

[EzraTank]

So wait the defense can hit for 5 yards but not the offense?

[dislocatedday]

Ok, I am going to stop complaining and just watch the rest of the game...............but I have to make one last complaint, 1st and goal from the 3 and the team goes 5 wide in the shotgun with no threat of the run..........why?

[EzraTank]

Tick tick ... the Bengals don't care.

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Ok, I am going to stop complaining and just watch the rest of the game...............but I have to make one last complaint, 1st and goal from the 3 and the team goes 5 wide in the shotgun with no threat of the run..........why?

You need to ask why?

[86WARD]

Gotta go for the FG here.

[EzraTank]

Harris is getting killed, he's not going to last 5 years at this rate.

[86WARD]

Ok, I am going to stop complaining and just watch the rest of the game...............but I have to make one last complaint, 1st and goal from the 3 and the team goes 5 wide in the shotgun with no threat of the run..........why?

Gotta be Ben’s fault.

[EzraTank]

Ready for a long 7 minute drive with plenty of Mixon ending us ...

[steelcityboyz]

Ready for a long 7 minute drive with plenty of Mixon ending us ...3 and out..... Ben throws to long TD passes!

[pczach]

Almost picked. Nice play by Pierre.

[Rotorhead]

Gotta be Ben’s fault.

Same as last year, no RB on short yardage, I thought we changed OC’s

[86WARD]

Good defense.

[pczach]

Good defense.



It looks like only a couple of us are willing to watch the rest of it. :toofunny:

[Rotorhead]

Wish Minkah would have come up with that INT

[steelcityboyz]

It looks like only a couple of us are willing to watch the rest of it. :toofunny:Hey I'm here!

[Steeler-in-west]

TD drive here, Last chance

[Edman]

Wish Minkah would have come up with that INT

So Ben can continue to bumble away with 4-5 yard passes?

[EzraTank]

Late TD drive to make the game look like it wasn't the blowout we all just saw.

[pczach]

Hey I'm here!


I know. I said a couple of us!

[86WARD]

It looks like only a couple of us are willing to watch the rest of it. :toofunny:

Clearly the people that don’t love themselves and want to self inflict pain…

[86WARD]

Right in the hands and Ebron drops it.

[pczach]

Ben dropped another pass!

[Rotorhead]

So Ben can continue to bumble away with 4-5 yard passes?

No so we can watch the OL not block anyone and watch Ben scramble around before he completes a 5yd pass

[dislocatedday]

It looks like only a couple of us are willing to watch the rest of it. :toofunny:

I'm still watching....but I am not going to comment on the game anymore as I have nothing but negative things to say, and it is starting to get old.

[Shoes]

ebron

[steelcityboyz]

see ben can throw deep when he want's to

[pczach]

He overthrew Washington.......

I thought he didn't have enough arm for that.

[stillers4me]

see ben can throw deep when he want's toAre you saying he doesn't want to?

[stillers4me]

I'd like to see Ebron cut tomorrow.

[pczach]

Claypool is playing hurt.

[stillers4me]

Oh look. A long throw.

[86WARD]

Why no Freiermuth in the game?

[86WARD]

Green hurt now.

[pczach]

Are there enough people to field a team at this point?

[steelcityboyz]

Are you saying he doesn't want to?Not at all. I'm saying he still has some juice left in his arm he should throw it longer than 5yrds more often.

[Rotorhead]

Dam, we will be able to field a team next week?

[86WARD]

Claypool back in the game.

[Edman]

Dam, we will be able to field a team next week?

It's okay. We have Ben Roethlisberger.

[Rotorhead]

Are there enough people to field a team at this point?

Haha, thinking alike here

[Steeler-in-west]

Should go no huddle more often

[stillers4me]

Not at all. I'm saying he still has some juice left in his arm he should throw it longer than 5yrds more often.Tell that to the Oline.

[86WARD]

RT is a HUGE liability right now.

[steelcityboyz]

burning too much time need a score right now

[pczach]

Make a play Ebron!

[stillers4me]

Another miss by Ebron.

[steelcityboyz]

Another miss by Ebron.Why is he still on this team?

[NCSteeler]

Aweful play who calls that bullshit?

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[steelcityboyz]

Game over shit play call

[86WARD]

That’s just a terrible play call and terrible decision by Ben.

[pczach]

Talk about a letdown....

[stillers4me]

THAT was our 4th down play call???

[EzraTank]

LOL, that sums up our team that fucking stupid call.

[tube517]

What kind of play on 4th and 10 was that

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[NCSteeler]

This offense is possibly the world St since the 90s, that's saying something

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[Edman]

Your Offense is only capable of going where your quarterback is capable of going.

Moujow said it best. It's ALL we are capable of doing. We can do NOTHING else.

[86WARD]

Lions giving the Ravens a hard time.

[Rotorhead]

Are you kidding me? What the hell was that, you have 1 play to get 10 yards or lose the game, and that is what you run?

[NCSteeler]

Your Offense is only capable of going where your quarterback is capable of going.

Moujow said it best. It's ALL we are capable of doing. We can do NOTHING else.S you think WRs magically get open with a better QB? Serious

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[steelcityboyz]

THAT was our 4th down play call???And after a time out to discuss the play.SAD

[EzraTank]

How can you not throw it to the endzone and take your chances?

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Wow Ben

[stillers4me]

Your Offense is only capable of going where your quarterback is capable of going.

Moujow said it best. It's ALL we are capable of doing. We can do NOTHING else.We actually have bigger problems than the QB.

[86WARD]

Your Offense is only capable of going where your quarterback is capable of going.

Moujow said it best. It's ALL we are capable of doing. We can do NOTHING else.

The last drive showed that it’s clearly not true.

Harris should never have been running that route and Ben should’ve never thrown that there on 4th & 10. It’s just poor all around.

[Edman]

Are you kidding me? What the hell was that, you have 1 play to get 10 yards or lose the game, and that is what you run?

The Quarterback is INCAPABLE of making throws downfield.

[that1guy]

This team will be massacred by Green Bay next week.

[Shoes]

Muth looked open in the EZ

[Edman]

The last drive showed that it’s clearly not true.

Harris should never have been running that route and Ben should’ve never thrown that there on 4th & 10. It’s just poor all around.

Throwing outside down the sideline is not a sign of throwing downfield.

[86WARD]

The Quarterback is INCAPABLE of making throws downfield.

What was the last drives?

[Edman]

Muth looked open in the EZ

Ben can't get it to him.

[86WARD]

Throwing outside down the sideline is not a sign of throwing downfield.

Lol. Okay. You don’t want to do that with limited time and down two scores? Throw down the middle and wind the clock? Makes sense.

[stillers4me]

The Quarterback is INCAPABLE of making throws downfield.Whatever. Dude, just stop. Clearly, Ben is easy to criticize., but that's just lazy.

[Edman]

What was the last drives?

Ben did the same thing in the Raiders game. Hitting a few fly routes with moonballs downfield doesn't constitute throwing downfield.

[NCSteeler]

I'm out see you two years from now when we're drafting top 5 after having mason running this lousy team.

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[steelcityboyz]

This team will be massacred by Green Bay next week.If Tomlin doesn't blow this mess up and start over with a better plan they will be massacred by whomever they play.

[Rotorhead]

The Quarterback is INCAPABLE of making throws downfield.

Ok, except he completed several passes between 10-15 yards, so you comment is just foolish, 10 yards is not down field.

[Mach1]

We actually have bigger problems than the QB.

Coaching leaves a lot to be desired.

[stillers4me]

Ben did the same thing in the Raiders game. Hitting a few fly routes with moonballs downfield doesn't constitute throwing downfield.You've been on this train for years.

[86WARD]

Ben did the same thing in the Raiders game. Hitting a few fly routes with moonballs downfield doesn't constitute throwing downfield.

What does? Overthrowing a receiver and having the receiver make a good effort to make the catch for a TD? But not near the sideline.

[86WARD]

Three straight drops to end the game. Only thing better would’ve been if there was a penalty on the o-line.

[Shoes]

3 drops in a row

[steelcityboyz]

I'm out, have a good week people!

[86WARD]

Lions up on the Ravens 17-16…

[Mach1]

Ben dropped it again

[stillers4me]

Ben dropped it againDang it.

[tube517]

Lions up on the Ravens 17-16…Damn Tucker hit a 66 yarder.

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[86WARD]

Damn Tucker hit a 66 yarder.

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He may be the greatest ever.

[that1guy]

He may be the greatest ever.

It's possible

[NCSteeler]

It's possibleHe got a clear benefit of a delay if game not called

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[NCSteeler]

2021 Steelers may be total losers but Ravens still suck

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[stillers4me]

Mason Rudolph is not going to make the OLine better. Mason Rudolph cannot make up for all the injuries. Mason Rudolph will not make the play calls better.

But our HOF quarterback will be gone in disgrace. Rejoice!

[DesertSteel]

But our HOF quarterback will be gone in disgrace. Rejoice!
Is that the fans' fault?

[NCSteeler]

After a near quarter of TNF I want to mention how terrible the Bengals really are.
Bear guess Baltimore and browns blow them out maybe twice each

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[86WARD]

They are one of those fraudulent 3-1 teams that people get excited about early in the season.

[Fire Goodell]

After a near quarter of TNF I want to mention how terrible the Bengals really are.
Bear guess Baltimore and browns blow them out maybe twice each

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And to think we lost to those guys which makes the Steelers even more terrible lol