Josh Dobbs re-signs with Steelers

[Shoes]

Looks like Dobbs & Haskins will be competing for the #3 spot.


Dobbs’ agent Mike McCartney announced that his client has agreed to a one-year deal with the teams. Dobbs was a 2017 fourth-round pick in Pittsburgh and spent two years with the team before being traded to the Jaguars in September 2019. He spent the year in Jacksonville and returned to the Steelers after he was waived last September

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/14/josh-dobbs-re-signs-with-steelers/

[Mojouw]

OK. So this seems like a "Colbert Predraft Special" to me.

They have a starter (Ben), their main back-up (Rudolph), a developmental guy (Haskins), and their "trusted vet" (Dobbs). Meaning they don't have to draft a guy.

[tube517]

Ben will be happy

[teegre]

Ben will be happy

Indeed :nod: Dobbs is like a QB coach on the sidelines. Ben trusts what Dobbs sees.

[Dreegking]

I thought this was a done deal ages ago. Guess not. Good.

[DesertSteel]

Dobbs offers nothing.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Dobbs offers nothing.

he can hold a mean clipboard.

[tube517]

he can hold a mean clipboard.

And build a sweet rocket

[hawaiiansteeler]

Dobbs offers nothing.

he can mimic LJ in practices, the closest we have.

[BlackAndGold]

Could do much worse as a #3/#4 QB.

As Hawaii mentioned, Dobbs brings a different skill set for practice.

[86WARD]

He’s the modern version of Charlie Batch. Just there for his knowledge.

[DesertSteel]

He’s the modern version of Charlie Batch. Just there for his knowledge.
He can't hold Charlie Batch's clipboard!! :D

[tube517]

He’s the modern version of Charlie Batch. Just there for his knowledge.

He's Charlie Batch w/an Aerospace Engineering degree!

[EzraTank]

I like having him there to talk to Ben. Let's face if Ben is no rocket scientist.

Next question if camp rolls around and Haskins looks like the #1 pick he actually was, buys into the team, then what do you do with Mason Rudolph? Because keeping both Haskins and Rudolph would kind of be redundant as the #2 guy (assuming Dobbs is #3).

I guess it's a good problem to have.

[86WARD]

So which two between Rudolph Dobbs and Haskins?

[EzraTank]

So which two between Rudolph Dobbs and Haskins?

If Haskins is mentally there for the right price you probably cut Dobbs and sign him to the practice squad if he's not picked up. At least until next year when Ben is gone. There is no way Dobbs would ever be a starter in this league but Haskins and Rudolph could.

[DesertSteel]

Ceilings:
1. Haskins
2. Rudolph
3. Dobbs

With backup QBs you're more concerned about ceilings than floors unless it's an established veteran backup, then the floor is more important.

[Craic]

Dobbs offers nothing.

What? As a number 3 guy you're saying he still offers nothing? I sincerely doubt that. Is he starter material? No. Is he sound backup material? No. But there are a lot worse guys you could have come in and run a few plays (as long as the Steelers allow him to play to his strengths. The funny thing is, under Arians, he would be better as his long ball is his best component, and it opens the field for his running if he needs to take off. Again, not saying he's good or he'll even make a mark in the NFL. I'm just saying I'd feel better with him at 3 starting off this year than I would many other 3s.

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If Haskins is mentally there for the right price you probably cut Dobbs and sign him to the practice squad if he's not picked up. At least until next year when Ben is gone. There is no way Dobbs would ever be a starter in this league but Haskins and Rudolph could.

I will be absolutely shocked if Rudolph becomes a starter in the NFL. Sure, I like that he showed a bit more when he played than the previous year. But a starter? No. Not unless you're the Colts the year after Manning left, tanking for a first round pick.

Then again, maybe I would want Rudolph to start for a year. Hmm.

[Fire Goodell]

resign the duck man! :chuckle:

[one side only]

The Quarterback situation for 2022 and beyond remains perilous.

[DesertSteel]

What? As a number 3 guy you're saying he still offers nothing? I sincerely doubt that. Is he starter material? No. Is he sound backup material? No.
At a point when your starter is going into his last year, your backups need some potential beyond what Dobbs offers. I sincerely hope they keep Haskins as opposed to having Dobbs never dressing for 17 games. I realize that the next franchise QB is likely not on the roster -- but you never know. So yeah, in our situation, Dobbs offers nothing that we need. As you admit, he's not even backup material.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Insurance sigh in case Haskins doesn't have a good camp.

[Mojouw]

Insurance sigh in case Haskins doesn't have a good camp.

Or so Old Ben doesn’t have throw much in camp or preseason.?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

The worst thing to think of is the Steelers already picked in the 2017 draft, in order....TJ Watt, JuJu, Cam Sutton, James Conner and then in the 4th picked Josh Dobbs, when other guys on the board were George Kittle, Zach Banner, Damonte Kazee, Desmond King, Aaron Jones, etc

Honestly, I liked Clemson TE Jordan Leggett or Desmond King of Iowa at that point and wasnt in on the Kittle scouting, so I am not going to hindsight that one, other than the BPA in my mind was Desmond King. King was the Thorpe winner and a great cover guy, but had something like 4.5 speed, so was going to have to switch to safety.

Still, I thought King was late 2 to round 3 pick, so IMO the Steelers should have taken Desmond King instead of wasting the pick on Dobbs, who was arguably the 5th best QB at the Senior Bowl.

[hawaiiansteeler]

The worst thing to think of is the Steelers already picked in the 2017 draft, in order....TJ Watt, JuJu, Cam Sutton, James Conner and then in the 4th picked Josh Dobbs, when other guys on the board were George Kittle, Zach Banner, Damonte Kazee, Desmond King, Aaron Jones, etc

Honestly, I liked Clemson TE Jordan Leggett or Desmond King of Iowa at that point and wasnt in on the Kittle scouting, so I am not going to hindsight that one, other than the BPA in my mind was Desmond King. King was the Thorpe winner and a great cover guy, but had something like 4.5 speed, so was going to have to switch to safety.

Still, I thought King was late 2 to round 3 pick, so IMO the Steelers should have taken Desmond King instead of wasting the pick on Dobbs, who was arguably the 5th best QB at the Senior Bowl.

come on man, of course I would have picked George Kittle.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/76483415.jpg

[Shoes]

The worst thing to think of is the Steelers already picked in the 2017 draft, in order....TJ Watt, JuJu, Cam Sutton, James Conner and then in the 4th picked Josh Dobbs, when other guys on the board were George Kittle, Zach Banner, Damonte Kazee, Desmond King, Aaron Jones, etc

Honestly, I liked Clemson TE Jordan Leggett or Desmond King of Iowa at that point and wasnt in on the Kittle scouting, so I am not going to hindsight that one, other than the BPA in my mind was Desmond King. King was the Thorpe winner and a great cover guy, but had something like 4.5 speed, so was going to have to switch to safety.

Still, I thought King was late 2 to round 3 pick, so IMO the Steelers should have taken Desmond King instead of wasting the pick on Dobbs, who was arguably the 5th best QB at the Senior Bowl.


Thanks for the reminder! Just when I've been prepping myself for the annual Steeler (AKA, Sanford & Son) garbage R7 TE, you have to bring this up! :chuckle:

[86WARD]

If Haskins is mentally there for the right price you probably cut Dobbs and sign him to the practice squad if he's not picked up. At least until next year when Ben is gone. There is no way Dobbs would ever be a starter in this league but Haskins and Rudolph could.

Agree...BUT...what if they feel that the intelligence and football mind of Dobbs and how he can help Ben on game day outweighs the talent that Haskins may have?

[Disco1981]

OK. So this seems like a "Colbert Predraft Special" to me.

They have a starter (Ben), their main back-up (Rudolph), a developmental guy (Haskins), and their "trusted vet" (Dobbs). Meaning they don't have to draft a guy.

Lol...A FOURTH string QB that they CUT...And now have brought back because NOBODY else wanted him...THIS is what warrants the Steelers NOT taking a QB...Again lol

[one side only]

Where and when did the narrative start that Josh Dobbs was valuable to Ben Roethlisberger?

[Mojouw]

Lol...A FOURTH string QB that they CUT...And now have brought back because NOBODY else wanted him...THIS is what warrants the Steelers NOT taking a QB...Again lol

Yes. Colbert has always approached the 90 man off-season roster as building out a path to the final 53 man roster. That 90 man roster almost always involves 4-5 QBs. They are at 4 under contract. They will carry 3 on the final 53. By how many years of Colbert pattern and precedent...he now feels that he won't "have to" draft a QB.

Same way that signing VW back means they don't "have to" draft a ILB. Same with all the random guys signed to the DL.

Finney is the same Colbert line of thinking at C. He gives them a player on the roster that if the Steelers had to line up and play a game tomorrow, they could field a somewhat credible OC.

They could use upgrades in the talent at C, QB, ILB, and DL. But they have NFL replacement level players at those positions. So they do not have to force a draft pick at a specific position in specific round. This is how Colbert has been building off-season rosters for what, like 2 decades or something? Not sure why this is strange...

[teegre]

Where and when did the narrative start that Josh Dobbs was valuable to Ben Roethlisberger?

Often after a series, Ben will walk over to Dobbs on the sideline and ask what he saw/what suggestions Dobbs has. Ben has mentioned a few plays have come directly from those discussions.

[one side only]

Often after a series, Ben will walk over to Dobbs on the sideline and ask what he saw/what suggestions Dobbs has. Ben has mentioned a few plays have come directly from those discussions.

If that is the justification for signing a guy they never should have drafted in the first place, and the signing further justifies not drafting a quarterback in Roethlisberger's last year, then things are worse than I thought.

[teegre]

If that is the justification for signing a guy they never should have drafted in the first place, and the signing further justifies not drafting a quarterback in Roethlisberger's last year, then things are worse than I thought.

It depends on the percentage that that reason went into the decision.

20% he knows the offense
20% the Steelers generally bring 4-5 quarterbacks to camp
10% he's a good player-coach to have on the sideline
50% his contract is cheap

It also does not mean that the Steelers are "not" drafting a QB. Nothing on their draft board has really changed by this move. If Justin Fields is there at 24, I am certain that Josh Dobbs will not factor in to whether to draft Fields.

[one side only]

It depends on the percentage that that reason went into the decision.

20% he knows the offense
20% the Steelers generally bring 4-5 quarterbacks to camp
10% he's a good player-coach to have on the sideline
50% his contract is cheap

It also does not mean that the Steelers are "not" drafting a QB. Nothing on their draft board has really changed by this move. If Justin Fields is there at 24, I am certain that Josh Dobbs will not factor in to whether to draft Fields.

If any first round-rated Quarterback is available at 24, they had better draft him. A more realistic scenario is a quarterback that could start next year would be available in the 3rd round or later. The Steelers will be in Quarterback no man's land as of Jan. 9, 2022. That being said:

1. Dobbs knows 0% of the Matt Canada offense.
2. Dobbs didn't have to be one of them.
3. I don't buy the player-coach nonsense.
4. A rookie's contract would also be cheap.

[Skinart82]

I think Dobbs is simply insurance in case Haskins acts a fool or doesn’t pan out. They like to carry three QBs with one one the PS. I also think this keeps them from wasting a fourth round pick again on a QB, if one of the top 4/5 are not available, then they go with what they have.

I personally think, if they don’t draft a top QB, it will be Haskins, with Dobbs being released.

[teegre]

If any first round-rated Quarterback is available at 24, they had better draft him. A more realistic scenario is a quarterback that could start next year would be available in the 3rd round or later. The Steelers will be in Quarterback no man's land as of Jan. 9, 2022. That being said:

1. Dobbs knows 0% of the Matt Canada offense.
2. Dobbs didn't have to be one of them.
3. I don't buy the player-coach nonsense.
4. A rookie's contract would also be cheap.

I am not sure why you are so "up in arms" about a 4th string quarterback. Okay, maybe they should have signed (checks notes) Blake Bortles (:noidea:). Sure, I guess. You're right.

And, again, drafting a QB and adding a URFA QB to the roster is not mutually exclusive from adding a veteran, fourth-string QB before the draft.

[Born2Steel]

All you really have to do is go back over the last 10-15 drafts and see how many 1st round QBs are still with the team that drafted them. Dobbs has done better than X number of those guys. He is NOT the future of the franchise but he's not a bust either.

[pczach]

If any first round-rated Quarterback is available at 24, they had better draft him. A more realistic scenario is a quarterback that could start next year would be available in the 3rd round or later. The Steelers will be in Quarterback no man's land as of Jan. 9, 2022. That being said:

1. Dobbs knows 0% of the Matt Canada offense.
2. Dobbs didn't have to be one of them.
3. I don't buy the player-coach nonsense.
4. A rookie's contract would also be cheap.




Why don't you name the quarterbacks that can start next year that are available in the 3rd round or later. The world wants to know who they are.

[Fire Goodell]

Dobbs is probably smarter than anyone on the coaching staff, who knows that guy might be a legendary OC one day lol

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I am not sure why you are so "up in arms" about a 4th string quarterback. Okay, maybe they should have signed (checks notes) Blake Bortles (:noidea:). Sure, I guess. You're right.

And, again, drafting a QB and adding a URFA QB to the roster is not mutually exclusive from adding a veteran, fourth-string QB before the draft.

Face it, there are always a few folks every year that are dialed in on the #4 QB. Last year there was a ton of talk about Duck Hodges and the guy that Denver drafted from Memphis, who busted.

Just wait until we start talking about the #6 WR and the backup punter pushing for a spot on the roster.

[teegre]

Face it, there are always a few folks every year that are dialed in on the #4 QB. Last year there was a ton of talk about Duck Hodges and the guy that Denver drafted from Memphis, who busted.

Just wait until we start talking about the #6 WR and the backup punter pushing for a spot on the roster.

At least we all agree... our RBs suck.

[Born2Steel]

Dobbs could have a role in a Matt Canada offense. Maybe not in a traditional QB role but some gadget role that only works once or twice.

We have no idea what the plan is so to speculate that it's a 'bad move' before we know anything is just typical Steeler fan negativity.

[cubanstogie]

Dobbs could have a role in a Matt Canada offense. Maybe not in a traditional QB role but some gadget role that only works once or twice.

We have no idea what the plan is so to speculate that it's a 'bad move' before we know anything is just typical Steeler fan negativity.
IMO he’s there in case Ben gets hurt to back Rudolph up if Haskins can’t grasp offense. He’s 4th in Talent on the depth chart. Who knows where Haskins is talent wise but if he doesn’t up his work ethic and studying offense it’s a moot point, buh bye.

[Born2Steel]

IMO he’s there in case Ben gets hurt to back Rudolph up if Haskins can’t grasp offense. He’s 4th in Talent on the depth chart. Who knows where Haskins is talent wise but if he doesn’t up his work ethic and studying offense it’s a moot point, buh bye.

I don’t disagree because I can’t disagree. Which was basically my point. He could only be there as an emergency backup. He could have been brought back because they plan to showcase Rudolph and/or Haskins in the 3 preseason games and put both on the trade block. None of ‘us’ has any idea what the plan really is.

My only knock on Dobbs at UT was he had very poor accuracy and touch on short passes. His deep ball was fantastic. Maybe the big secret is he’s worked on his mechanics and has improved. Maybe improved a lot. Maybe he’s an excellent punter. OR that word we use for all low tier signings, ‘camp body’. My thought is he’s an asset in some way.

[ThorndikeFFA]

Mojouw is absolutely correct. Colbert HATES the idea of going into a draft NEEDING to draft a specific position over others. He may have certain players stuck in his head at times...Artie Burns...but he refuses to get jammed into drafting position of need early. He will always try to find the BPA in the first, and usually the second, rounds.

As for what do we do with Rudolf if Haskins works out. I'm no fan of Rudolf. At all. Wasted pick, in my opinion. So, my suggestions would be: a) sell him to gypsies, b) trade him for a warm six of IC Light, or c) who gives a f*ck.

[86WARD]

Lol...A FOURTH string QB that they CUT...And now have brought back because NOBODY else wanted him...THIS is what warrants the Steelers NOT taking a QB...Again lol

They did it in the past with Charlie Batch when Batch had angel hair pasta for an arm.

[86WARD]

If that is the justification for signing a guy they never should have drafted in the first place, and the signing further justifies not drafting a quarterback in Roethlisberger's last year, then things are worse than I thought.

Again...why do you think they kept Charlie Batch around for as long as they did? It’s good to have a guy in the sideline that knows what’s happening. He may not have the abilities a starter does but he has the mental capacity and understanding to help on the sidelines. I mean it’s something the Steelers have done for Ben’s career. Batch, Jones and now Dobbs. This team has always banked on Ben and not really the guys behind him as far as on-field play goes.

[hawaiiansteeler]

As for what do we do with Rudolf if Haskins works out. I'm no fan of Rudolf. At all. Wasted pick, in my opinion. So, my suggestions would be: a) sell him to gypsies, b) trade him for a warm six of IC Light, or c) who gives a f*ck.

I'm gonna go with choice b)

I can refrigerate that warm six of IC LIght and make it really cold :wink02:

[Dwinsgames]

Lol...A FOURTH string QB that they CUT...And now have brought back because NOBODY else wanted him...THIS is what warrants the Steelers NOT taking a QB...Again lol

so when did they ( the steelers ) cut him ? seems to me they traded him and got a draft pick for him ... then they got him back and he has went nowhere since ... but never let the facts get in the way of bashing the guy ... why not tell us how you really feel lmao

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Where and when did the narrative start that Josh Dobbs was valuable to Ben Roethlisberger?


Ben has said as much in the past , not gonna look for quotes but have heard it stated ... take it for what its worth

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I'm gonna go with choice b)

I can refrigerate that warm six of IC LIght and make it really cold :wink02:


it will still suck but after 10-12 of a decent beer you can sneak them in and may not notice the difference

[hawaiiansteeler]

it will still suck but after 10-12 of a decent beer you can sneak them in and may not notice the difference

I've never had one, but that is a good strategy with cheap ass beer.

[ThorndikeFFA]

He deserves another look just based on this one play alone.

Josh Dobbs throws the greatest pass of his NFL career against Ravens - Behind the Steel Curtain (https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2018/11/5/18062610/josh-dobbs-throws-the-first-greatest-and-only-pass-of-his-nfl-career-against-ravens-nfl-news)

[st33lersguy]

This is pretty neutral for me. We know who he is at this point and what role he has

[Fire Goodell]

He deserves another look just based on this one play alone.

Josh Dobbs throws the greatest pass of his NFL career against Ravens - Behind the Steel Curtain (https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2018/11/5/18062610/josh-dobbs-throws-the-first-greatest-and-only-pass-of-his-nfl-career-against-ravens-nfl-news)

The fact he audibled out of a run play as a backup took some serious balls (either that or he recognized the defense and saw the opening, either way, it's a good thing) :chuckle:

Given his aptitude I wouldn't be surprised if the kid is a film junkie

[DesertSteel]

He deserves another look just based on this one play alone.

Josh Dobbs throws the greatest pass of his NFL career against Ravens - Behind the Steel Curtain (https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2018/11/5/18062610/josh-dobbs-throws-the-first-greatest-and-only-pass-of-his-nfl-career-against-ravens-nfl-news)
It's a shame that he couldn't parlay that one play into $100M like Clowney did with his.