Steelers One Of Five Teams Predicted To Fall Off A Cliff In 2021

[Shoes]

If CBS’ predictions come true, 2021 won’t be a good year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. In a recent article, Pittsburgh was one of five teams projected to fall off a cliff (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/five-nfl-teams-likely-to-take-a-major-fall-in-2021-steelers-saints-lead-pack-that-could-go-off-a-cliff/) for this upcoming season. Despite their 12-4 finish in 2020, CBS’ Jeff Kerr envisions a much tougher road next year.
Here’s what he had to write:

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/02/steelers-one-of-five-teams-predicted-to-fall-off-a-cliff-in-2021/

[86WARD]

I think the “prediction” comes true (not sure it’s really an outrageous prediction)I think they fall to third place (at this point) in the division. Of course that can change with free agency and the draft but all signs point to them falling at the moment.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Tomlin never finishes worse than 8-8.

[Born2Steel]

'Fall Off A Cliff'. Nothing says CLICK HERE better than some abstract Steelers headline predicting doom. Everybody else can panic and jump ship if they wish. I'm gonna keep on rolling with the Black and Gold. This defense is insane. This offense can get right. I'm not worried.

[FrancoLambert]

I don’t know.

If we go all in on all Ben with Father Time butting in, it could easily happen.

We did kind of fall off the cliff at the end of this season. :shrug:

[DesertSteel]

Must mean it’s gonna be a great year with a super bowl run.

[Edman]

The Steelers won't fall off a cliff. Not as long as Ben is under center.

I think they're still very much good enough to win 8-10 games, but not good enough to win anything of note.

[vasteeler]

Dont they say that every year?

[DesertSteel]

The defense is still gonna be top 3 and I expect a better running game. Translation: 9-11 wins.

[86WARD]

The defense is still gonna be top 3 and I expect a better running game. Translation: 9-11 wins.

Will the defense still be that strong without 3-4 players from 2020? Sutton, Haden, Hilton, Alualu, Dupree, Williams...they are all,kinda questionable to return...no? Not the core of the defense but definitely heavy contributors.

[Born2Steel]

Any idea who the other 4 teams are? Probably not because they don't produce the clicks 'Steelers' does.

[DesertSteel]

Will the defense still be that strong without 3-4 players from 2020? Sutton, Haden, Hilton, Alualu, Dupree, Williams...they are all,kinda questionable to return...no? Not the core of the defense but definitely heavy contributors.
They all won’t be gone and Bush will be back.

[Rotorhead]

Will the defense still be that strong without 3-4 players from 2020? Sutton, Haden, Hilton, Alualu, Dupree, Williams...they are all,kinda questionable to return...no? Not the core of the defense but definitely heavy contributors.

Sutton or Hilton will be back, maybe Haden in a reworked contract. Dupree is probably gone, Williams is probably gone but he was already replaced. Maybe Alualu comes back, maybe we get JJ. I am not so concerned.

[Steeler-in-west]

Dont they say that every year?

they do. Then they jump on the bandwagon when the Steelers have a hot start, and jump off just as fast when we hit a skid, they’re very fickle.

I don’t see this team falling off any cliff if the defense stays relatively intact, plus the improved offensive line and coordination should help Ben’s cause

[ThorndikeFFA]

We have what will most likely be the NFL's toughest schedule next season. But if Ben can get/stay healthy, we can up the running game and the OL can keep Ben on his feet, anything is possible.

[86WARD]

They all won’t be gone and Bush will be back.

It’s definitely going to be an interesting off-season. Starting with Ben’s contract...

[EzraTank]

If CBS’ predictions come true, 2021 won’t be a good year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. In a recent article, Pittsburgh was one of five teams projected to fall off a cliff (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/five-nfl-teams-likely-to-take-a-major-fall-in-2021-steelers-saints-lead-pack-that-could-go-off-a-cliff/) for this upcoming season. Despite their 12-4 finish in 2020, CBS’ Jeff Kerr envisions a much tougher road next year.
Here’s what he had to write:

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/02/steelers-one-of-five-teams-predicted-to-fall-off-a-cliff-in-2021/




They already fell off the cliff last year in week #12.

[Rotorhead]

It’s definitely going to be an interesting off-season. Starting with Ben’s contract...

We have to assume that Ben will get paid the same whether he plays or not ($22M I think). If Ben wants more I imagine they just let him walk and move on. So if we are making contract assumptions that would be my starting point.

[pczach]

They already fell off the cliff last year in week #12.




Steelers fans don't know what a cliff is. They only think they do.

[that1guy]

The ugly truth is the Steelers will finish in 3rd place in the division behind Baltimore and Cleveland. What's worse is the Steelers have the least Talent at QB coming into '21 and a defense that figures to lose a couple of pieces that made the defense so good last season. The Steelers will most likely draft a couple of OL and a LB before making a 4th round RB selection that will amount to a camp body. The Steelers have far too much to address in one off-season. The icing on the cake has to be the FO with their false sense of having a competent coaching staff led by a head coach who shouldn't still be employed with the Steelers but has been saved because of the franchise touting its ' 3 HCs in the last 4 decades' bit.

[hawaiiansteeler]

The icing on the cake has to be the FO with their false sense of having a competent coaching staff led by a head coach who shouldn't still be employed with the Steelers but has been saved because of the franchise touting its ' 3 HCs in the last 4 decades' bit.

who would you hire instead?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Steelers fans don't know what a cliff is. They only think they do. Is this it?

https://static0.thesportsterimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Cliff-Stoudt-pinterest.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=473

[DesertSteel]

Is this it?

https://static0.thesportsterimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Cliff-Stoudt-pinterest.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=473
“He set an NFL record, after spending the first 56 games of his career as an active roster member without appearing in an official game.”

[Born2Steel]

"Predicted to Fall Off a Cliff"??? What does that even mean? Go from 12 wins to 10 wins? 9? 8? 7? 1? ZERO? IF you're going to make a 'prediction' then predict! I predict the Steelers will do worse next season after losing some key FAs and having the toughest schedule in the league. Way to go out on a limb there Capt Obvious.

I will predict the Steelers will lose some talent in FA, add some rookies through the draft, and play a #1 schedule next season, all resulting in a tougher road to the playoffs in 2021. AND I will predict the Steelers only win 11 games instead of the 12 they won is 2020. Maybe I should write most of an article about it.

[pczach]

Is this it?

https://static0.thesportsterimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Cliff-Stoudt-pinterest.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=473



If only I could find a picture of him breaking his throwing hand hitting a mechanical "Test Your Strength" punching machine while drunk!

Now that's a cliff!

[Born2Steel]

Is this it?

https://static0.thesportsterimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Cliff-Stoudt-pinterest.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=473


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StouCl00.htm

Now THAT is what a 'Cliff' looks like.

[Fire Goodell]

one win in the last 6 games, including losses against the bengals (with a 3rd string QB) and one against the WFT. Hard to be optimistic about next season tbh

[Born2Steel]

one win in the last 6 games, including losses against the bengals (with a 3rd string QB) and one against the WFT. Hard to be optimistic about next season tbh

The Bengals I will freely give anyone room to complain about. But that WFT defense is very real. I felt we should have won that game but don't mistake them as a bad team. Losing at Buffalo is nothing shameful. Losing week17 we didn't bring our team, and then spotting the Browns 28 points in the playoffs was not typical. When this franchise actually does collapse, I will admit it. How did 2019 start? How did 2020 end? I can point to bad times too.

[that1guy]

who would you hire instead?



Eric Bieniemy
Josh McDaniels
Greg Roman

[hawaiiansteeler]

Eric Bieniemy
Josh McDaniels
Greg Roman

I agree with Bieniemy and Roman, but definitely not McDaniels.

I give you credit for answering though, most people don't.

[st33lersguy]

They barely scraped by multiple teams and now they will have a tougher schedule. That's not a good combination in regard to avoiding regression

[that1guy]

I agree with Bieniemy and Roman, but definitely not McDaniels.

I give you credit for answering though, most people don't.

I really think the Steelers need culture change, a fresh perspective. The team is horrid in the playoffs and often plays down to its opponents. If you look at the level of talent that has been on the field 2010-2020 this decade has been a miserable failure,Tomlin does not have the ability to get the job done and the never a losing season argument is like a Dr botching the majority of his but saying "well atleast no one has died" its weak.

[pczach]

Is this it?

https://static0.thesportsterimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Cliff-Stoudt-pinterest.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=473





No Urban Cowboy, Stoudt Can't Sling Any Ball

by Ron Rosen November 10, 1981

Any doubt, ask Cliff Stoudt: slightly inaccurate, the report that he broke his passing arm riding one of those mechanical buckin' broncos or bulls. Actually, the Steelers' backup quarterback said, arm in sling last night, his urban cowboy ride in a Seattle lounge preceded a swing at a test-your-strength punching bag, and that's how he snapped his right forearm.

In Seattle, when it rains it pours, and after the 24-21 Pittsburgh loss Sunday, the team's flight home was fogged in, Stoudt passed time -- and now he can't pass a football. His punch glanced off the bag and his arm hit a holding stand.

Now who's No. 2 to Terry Bradshaw? Probably Mark Malone, the No. 3 who as fill-in wide receiver Sunday caught a 90-yard touchdown from No. 1 . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1981/11/10/no-urban-cowboy-stoudt-cant-sling-any-ball/9d80d4ca-11ab-4f2a-b421-5f2dfffabaa7/




:toofunny: :sofunny::lol::rofl2:


Good Times!!!!

[NCSteeler]

Any idea who the other 4 teams are? Probably not because they don't produce the clicks 'Steelers' does.Stupid article.

Seattle, new Orleans, Chicago, Pats

The last two can't even find the cliff

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[Steeler-in-west]

Can’t make bold predictions like this before the draft, free agency and Ben’s decision. However, the Steelers have made good proactive moves in the coaching staff already. I think they’re just waiting on Ben’s decision before making plans on the roster. As far as falling off a cliff, i think the team has not had many 6 or less win seasons since 1971 (I think three?), how many teams can say that?

Sometimes I think these writers are just pissed that their beloved cowboys and patsies stink and they can’t wait to see the Steelers go down as well....

[Drazo85]

Can’t make bold predictions like this before the draft, free agency and Ben’s decision. However, the Steelers have made good proactive moves in the coaching staff already. I think they’re just waiting on Ben’s decision before making plans on the roster. As far as falling off a cliff, i think the team has not had many 6 or less win seasons since 1971 (I think three?), how many teams can say that?

Sometimes I think these writers are just pissed that their beloved cowboys and patsies stink and they can’t wait to see the Steelers go down as well....Last time they had less than 5 wins was 1969. when they went 1-13. They went 5-9 in 1970. and 5-11 in 1988.

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[Dissolv]

They predict this nearly every year. And this year it is ridiculous, not worth the electronics it is written on. It is writing about the most safest thing possible and acting like it was some type of sports journalism. Steelers depot is miles ahead getting into the whys and where to fores. What is more interesting is what the coaches do to respond to the decline or even loss of Rothlesburger. Or even what the players themselves can pull off. Teams can win in different ways, and we are going to see a heavily modified Steelers team next year. Hopefully for the better. A solid run game alone would make the team a serious threat to the AFC North, assuming that Colbert and company can get things managed wrt the cap and the new draft class.

Will it be as good a team as they were trying for this year? Possibly not. But I'm not sure it will be completely uncompetitive either. The question mark is basically the offense. If it remains low production, and keeps putting the defense out there over and over, we aren't going anywhere. If they can get something tolerable on the field, mix things up, and score some points off of long drives, we have ourselves a season. Probably not a Super Bowl season, but that's true every year. Doing as well as you can every year is the Steeler's way, not blow it out and suck for a few years to try again in five.

[Shoes]

Our D is in good shape, it's all going to come down to the general on the field. Can he perform equal to and better than Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Jackson, Mayfield & Burrow consistently? I don't think so imo.

[Hawkman]

I really think the Steelers need culture change, a fresh perspective. The team is horrid in the playoffs and often plays down to its opponents. If you look at the level of talent that has been on the field 2010-2020 this decade has been a miserable failure,Tomlin does not have the ability to get the job done and the never a losing season argument is like a Dr botching the majority of his but saying "well atleast no one has died" its weak.

We get it.....Steelers are going 0-16.

[hawaiiansteeler]

We get it.....Steelers are going 0-16.

no, we can't go 0-16.

we have to have a good enough of a record to qualify for the playoffs so we can be horrid and play down to our opponent.

[DesertSteel]

I really think the Steelers need culture change, a fresh perspective. The team is horrid in the playoffs and often plays down to its opponents. If you look at the level of talent that has been on the field 2010-2020 this decade has been a miserable failure,Tomlin does not have the ability to get the job done and the never a losing season argument is like a Dr botching the majority of his but saying "well atleast no one has died" its weak.
You’re brilliant.

[Moose]

Playing the tough schedule may help this team. They play down to their bad opponents, maybe they'll play UP to the good ones and this season will surprise all of us. One thing I always do is NEVER listen to the talking sport heads, you'll find out in the end that none of them know what they are talking about and know the same or less then we all do.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

no, we can't go 0-16.

we have to have a good enough of a record to qualify for the playoffs so we can be horrid and play down to our opponent.

Thats the interesting part of the Steelers fan base. There are several perspectives, but if I break it down to 3 general attitudes, it explains the different posts here.

Group 1- Be Competitive, make the playoffs and anything can happen.

This group would love 13-3 record and home field, or a 1st round bye, but at the end of the day they just want to watch competitive football on a weekly basis and even a 9-7 season and Wildcard berth is fine, because the Steelers won SBXL from the 6 seed and can do it again. Even an 8-8 season isnt the end of the world for this group, just dont be 5-11 or worse.

Group 2- You Play to Win the Super Bowl

This group doesnt want 9-7 and a Wildcard, or even 11-5 AFC North Crown and the #3 seed. Because they don't think the Steelers can realistically win a Super Bowl from there. That's been done thru most of the Cowher and Tomlin years and they are not interested in seeing the Steelers lose in the Div Semifinals or AFCCG again. This group wants a plan to be one of the top 2 teams in the AFC regular season and have a shot at beating the top 2 teams in the NFC for the Lombardi. If it cant be done this season, then lay out the plan to get there in 2 or 3 seasons, but anything less is a waste.

Group #3- Steelers Ride or Die

This group is going to be Steelers fans no matter what. Watch the games and if they suck, its a reloading year. If they are competitive, then we have a shot at Playoffs and whatever happens, happens. If the Steelers are top 2 in AFC, then its a magical ride and they are enjoying it. In the end, they know that as a fan, you have little impact on the decision making, so dont take the offseason stuff too serious. Just dial up some new B&G merch and get ready for training camp.

Steelers management knows they have group 3 no matter what. The reality is that if they choose a path more suited to Group 1 or 2, its going to piss the other off. So at that point they balance the economic of what makes more money, with what is the best way to get that next Lombardi.

[DesertSteel]

^^^ Well I’m a #1 in terms of expectations but a #3 in terms of sticking with them. Life is too short to stay a #2. That’s too much disappointment over and over. I enjoy the season one game at a time. I enjoyed 12 games last year and I’m thankful I only had angst 5 times.

[Mojouw]

Thats the interesting part of the Steelers fan base. There are several perspectives, but if I break it down to 3 general attitudes, it explains the different posts here.

Group 1- Be Competitive, make the playoffs and anything can happen.

This group would love 13-3 record and home field, or a 1st round bye, but at the end of the day they just want to watch competitive football on a weekly basis and even a 9-7 season and Wildcard berth is fine, because the Steelers won SBXL from the 6 seed and can do it again. Even an 8-8 season isnt the end of the world for this group, just dont be 5-11 or worse.

Group 2- You Play to Win the Super Bowl

This group doesnt want 9-7 and a Wildcard, or even 11-5 AFC North Crown and the #3 seed. Because they don't think the Steelers can realistically win a Super Bowl from there. That's been done thru most of the Cowher and Tomlin years and they are not interested in seeing the Steelers lose in the Div Semifinals or AFCCG again. This group wants a plan to be one of the top 2 teams in the AFC regular season and have a shot at beating the top 2 teams in the NFC for the Lombardi. If it cant be done this season, then lay out the plan to get there in 2 or 3 seasons, but anything less is a waste.

Group #3- Steelers Ride or Die

This group is going to be Steelers fans no matter what. Watch the games and if they suck, its a reloading year. If they are competitive, then we have a shot at Playoffs and whatever happens, happens. If the Steelers are top 2 in AFC, then its a magical ride and they are enjoying it. In the end, they know that as a fan, you have little impact on the decision making, so dont take the offseason stuff too serious. Just dial up some new B&G merch and get ready for training camp.

Steelers management knows they have group 3 no matter what. The reality is that if they choose a path more suited to Group 1 or 2, its going to piss the other off. So at that point they balance the economic of what makes more money, with what is the best way to get that next Lombardi.

I’m in group #3 but I want the organization to only ever take approach 2.

[RunNGun]

Thats the interesting part of the Steelers fan base. There are several perspectives, but if I break it down to 3 general attitudes, it explains the different posts here.

Group 1- Be Competitive, make the playoffs and anything can happen.

This group would love 13-3 record and home field, or a 1st round bye, but at the end of the day they just want to watch competitive football on a weekly basis and even a 9-7 season and Wildcard berth is fine, because the Steelers won SBXL from the 6 seed and can do it again. Even an 8-8 season isnt the end of the world for this group, just dont be 5-11 or worse.

Group 2- You Play to Win the Super Bowl

This group doesnt want 9-7 and a Wildcard, or even 11-5 AFC North Crown and the #3 seed. Because they don't think the Steelers can realistically win a Super Bowl from there. That's been done thru most of the Cowher and Tomlin years and they are not interested in seeing the Steelers lose in the Div Semifinals or AFCCG again. This group wants a plan to be one of the top 2 teams in the AFC regular season and have a shot at beating the top 2 teams in the NFC for the Lombardi. If it cant be done this season, then lay out the plan to get there in 2 or 3 seasons, but anything less is a waste.

Group #3- Steelers Ride or Die

This group is going to be Steelers fans no matter what. Watch the games and if they suck, its a reloading year. If they are competitive, then we have a shot at Playoffs and whatever happens, happens. If the Steelers are top 2 in AFC, then its a magical ride and they are enjoying it. In the end, they know that as a fan, you have little impact on the decision making, so dont take the offseason stuff too serious. Just dial up some new B&G merch and get ready for training camp.

Steelers management knows they have group 3 no matter what. The reality is that if they choose a path more suited to Group 1 or 2, its going to piss the other off. So at that point they balance the economic of what makes more money, with what is the best way to get that next Lombardi.

I'd definitely fall into group 2. If you ain't first you're last.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

I really think the Steelers need culture change, a fresh perspective. The team is horrid in the playoffs and often plays down to its opponents. If you look at the level of talent that has been on the field 2010-2020 this decade has been a miserable failure,Tomlin does not have the ability to get the job done and the never a losing season argument is like a Dr botching the majority of his but saying "well atleast no one has died" its weak.

You're not wrong. Since XLV the Steelers have beaten AJ McCarron, Matt Moore and Alex Smith led teams because of the Bengals' historic collapse and Bell playing amazing in 2016.

They've lost to Tebow, Flacco, Bortles, Mayfield and Peyton Manning in his last season when he had 9 TD 17 INT and a 68 rating.

This year Brady at 43 beat 3 HOF QB led teams in the same season with a new team he couldn't prepare with properly because of COVID: Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes. I can't stop thinking about the difference between beating Moore, McCarron and Smith in 10 seasons vs. Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes in 1 season.

...

You'll notice no one will give you a factual argument about why the Steelers actually haven't underachieved just attack you personally or rely on the fallacy of consensus.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

I'll add that the Steelers won't "fall off a cliff." Kellerman just showed everyone how bad an analogy that is.

The expectations for the "We play for Super Bowls" Steelers have been way too high. I laughed when they were number one in the "power rankings" and texted my BIL "Big game this weekend. Ben will throw 45 times and 3 picks. Steelers lose a shoot out." before the CLE game. Little did I know Ben would throw 68 times and 4 picks.

Steelers will be fine next year. They will be the fringe playoff team they have consistently been for years now.

[Born2Steel]

What if the last 3-4 years were actually the 'bad years' everyone is predicting for the Steelers?

[pczach]

You're not wrong. Since XLV the Steelers have beaten AJ McCarron, Matt Moore and Alex Smith led teams because of the Bengals' historic collapse and Bell playing amazing in 2016.

They've lost to Tebow, Flacco, Bortles, Mayfield and Peyton Manning in his last season when he had 9 TD 17 INT and a 68 rating.

This year Brady at 43 beat 3 HOF QB led teams in the same season with a new team he couldn't prepare with properly because of COVID: Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes. I can't stop thinking about the difference between beating Moore, McCarron and Smith in 10 seasons vs. Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes in 1 season.

...

You'll notice no one will give you a factual argument about why the Steelers actually haven't underachieved just attack you personally or rely on the fallacy of consensus.




Are you going to post any other thoughts or are you just going to repeat this crap everywhere?

I guess we're just going to hear this same crap over and over and over again in every thread.

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[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Are you going to post any other thoughts or are you just going to repeat this crap everywhere?

I guess we're just going to hear this same crap over and over and over again in every thread.

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Damn it! Why didn't I think of dog memes?! I need to get down on your level and dog memes would have been perfect hahaha.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

What if the last 3-4 years were actually the 'bad years' everyone is predicting for the Steelers?

Unfortunately not. In the next 3-4 years Ben will be gone. The OL and DL need an immediate overhaul. There are 4 starters on defense who will be 32 next year.

Dotson I expect to be a solid LG which really helps the OL. Hopefully Okorafor beats out Feiler at RT otherwise Steelers need a LT (Villanueva 33 next year) and RT in the immediate future. Obviously need a C. So LG is the only position I expect the Steelers are set at for the next several years. Decastro 31 this year same age Faneca went to Jets.

Heyward will be 32 and Alualu 34. Tuitt is the baby at 28 and has yet to start a full 16.

The last several years were the glory days. Need a QB, LT, possibly RT, C, G in the next couple, DL, CB1 (Haden will be 32), ILB, OLB (depending on Dupree), RB, WR (depending on Juju) and TE.

[Mojouw]

Unfortunately not. In the next 3-4 years Ben will be gone. The OL and DL need an immediate overhaul. There are 4 starters on defense who will be 32 next year.

Dotson I expect to be a solid LG which really helps the OL. Hopefully Okorafor beats out Feiler at RT otherwise Steelers need a LT (Villanueva 33 next year) and RT in the immediate future. Obviously need a C. So LG is the only position I expect the Steelers are set at for the next several years. Decastro 31 this year same age Faneca went to Jets.

Heyward will be 32 and Alualu 34. Tuitt is the baby at 28 and has yet to start a full 16.

The last several years were the glory days. Need a QB, LT, possibly RT, C, G in the next couple, DL, CB1 (Haden will be 32), ILB, OLB (depending on Dupree), RB, WR (depending on Juju) and TE.

And in the last several years the Steelers have needed and found the following:

Multiple WRs
RB
RT
NT (twice)
ILB (twice)
SS
FS
CB (several times)
OLB (twice)

Was it always an easy process? Nope. Did it happen all at once? Nope.

But I am not sure what your point is. Every single NFL team has a lengthy list of "needs" each and every off-season. Wonder if the Chiefs wish they had better addressed their lack of OT depth about a year ago? Titans really wish they had put more resources into additional pass rushers. Packers might have wanted to add that other weapon everyone but their front office wanted. Maybe the Seahawks might want to rethink their no offensive line policy. The Patriots are surely regretting allowing themselves to become one the worst skill position rosters in the league. Ravens are still looking for a WR that fits their offense.

All in all...everyone is always looking for something. Everyone always has holes they are hoping don't get exposed. As long as the Steelers solve the QB problem in the next 2 off-seasons, they will be fine. Don't do that...and it starts to get away from you.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

I agree with Bieniemy and Roman, but definitely not McDaniels.

I give you credit for answering though, most people don't.

Brandon Staley. DC for Rams. 1st in yards and points allowed after being 17th the year before and having an almost identical roster. 38 years old. Maybe I'm just a homer but I think the Steelers have a more talented roster on defense than the Rams. Yes, the Rams have 2 All-Pros but the Steelers have 3 and also Tuitt, Haden, Nelson, Hilton, Dupree, Bush etc.

People always ask "Who would you hire?" but no one actually gets to interview coaches or be part of the hiring process.

No one knew who Tomlin was either- DC for one year.

...

Personally I wanted Tomlin fired with Arians. It was mostly because of overall philosophy and personnel decisions. Choosing Zeirlein and Arians over Faneca and Starks was huge for me. Another was how dismal the ST was for several years. Another was personnel decisions like Jonathon Scott and Sean Mahan starting in 2007.

As of now I like Tomlin as HC and hope he is HC for another 10 years. I got to see the Steelers win two Super Bowls. I'm good.

The drafts under Tomlin have been amazing from the very first with Woodley, Timmons, Gay and Spaeth. And we all know it would have been Revis, Woodley, and Gay if Revis was there. That's outstanding.

So people should just chill and realize that while the Steelers don't actually play for Super Bowls they will be a winning team and one of the most exciting for years to come.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Yeah I agree with you on this completely. First off I expect the Steelers to find the talent required to rebuild the OL and the rest of the need positions. Second it's very important to find a QB- which everyone agrees on.

I thought the Steelers would have taken Lamar Jackson when they took Edmunds. I don't really get why they didn't after taking Dixon, Dobbs and signing Vick.

It's going to have to be that sort of thing where a QB drops past 10th pick. Ben was 11th. Mahomes 10th. Rodgers 24th. Brees 32nd. Wilson 75th. Brady 199th.

I honestly don't know what the Steelers want in a QB but hopefully they get a franchise QB again. Had to wait 20 years between Bradshaw and Ben.

[teegre]

I thought the Steelers would have taken Lamar Jackson when they took Edmunds. I don't really get why they didn't after taking Dixon, Dobbs and signing Vick.

Indeed :nod: From what I recall, Tomlin loved Lamar, but the Steelers decided not to “rock the boat” (by taking a QB in R1). This “boat rocking” was verified by Ben reacting (poorly) to Rudolph being drafted in R3.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Unfortunately not. In the next 3-4 years Ben will be gone. The OL and DL need an immediate overhaul. There are 4 starters on defense who will be 32 next year.

Dotson I expect to be a solid LG which really helps the OL. Hopefully Okorafor beats out Feiler at RT otherwise Steelers need a LT (Villanueva 33 next year) and RT in the immediate future. Obviously need a C. So LG is the only position I expect the Steelers are set at for the next several years. Decastro 31 this year same age Faneca went to Jets.

Heyward will be 32 and Alualu 34. Tuitt is the baby at 28 and has yet to start a full 16.

The last several years were the glory days. Need a QB, LT, possibly RT, C, G in the next couple, DL, CB1 (Haden will be 32), ILB, OLB (depending on Dupree), RB, WR (depending on Juju) and TE.

Villanueva will be gone in Free Agency, I believe he has played his last game in B&G. Okorafor most likely to play LT unless one drafted #24. DeCastro still under contract and Banner should get an offer from Steelers to come back at RT. I think Feiler gets a better offer in FA and is likely gone as well. He doesnt have the feet to play RT and handle speed rushers, so at best he should continue to play Guard.

[teegre]

Villanueva will be gone in Free Agency, I believe he has played his last game in B&G. Okorafor most likely to play LT unless one drafted #24. DeCastro still under contract and Banner should get an offer from Steelers to come back at RT. I think Feiler gets a better offer in FA and is likely gone as well. He doesnt have the feet to play RT and handle speed rushers, so at best he should continue to play Guard.

Pretty much this.

(except that from Banner’s comments, he feels that he will be the starting LT. But, essentially the same thing: Okorafor and Banner as the starting tackles.)

[fansince'76]

This year Brady at 43 beat 3 HOF QB led teams in the same season with a new team he couldn't prepare with properly because of COVID: Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes. I can't stop thinking about the difference between beating Moore, McCarron and Smith in 10 seasons vs. Brees, Rodgers and Mahomes in 1 season..

:rolleyes:

Yes, and of course, the Bucs' defense played absolutely no role in any of it, particularly not in the NFCCG where Brady threw three INTs and was actually OUTPLAYED by Rodgers.

Defense kinda matters and "tackle the catch" doesn't really work all too well in the postseason...:coffee:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Pretty much this.

(except that from Banner’s comments, he feels that he will be the starting LT. But, essentially the same thing: Okorafor and Banner as the starting tackles.)

I just dont get that Banner was lead to believe that he would be the LT. He hasnt shown enough on tape to show he can handle it, IMO.

Sure he is a large human being, but he doesnt show the quickness of feet to redirect and stay with counter moves of the NFL elite rushers. Earlier in his career it was discussed that he should be RT or move inside to Guard. That normally isnt what you want in a LT. Now that he is coming off ACL injury, I dont know that his ability to handle a speed rusher converting an outside move to an inside counter move is what you want on the QB's blind side. Okorafor is much more athletic and I see an OT being selected in the draft as well in April.

[Shoes]

:rolleyes:

Yes, and of course, the Bucs' defense played absolutely no role in any of it, particularly not in the NFCCG where Brady threw three INTs and was actually OUTPLAYED by Rodgers.

Defense kinda matters and "tackle the catch" doesn't really work all too well in the postseason...:coffee:

Indeed, I read somewhere if the QB's in that game would have switched teams, the buc's would have still won but with many more points.

Brady is a nut job. He is still feeding off of his R6 pick. What is going to be his motivational drive in life after football, his r6 pick?

[pczach]

:rolleyes:

Yes, and of course, the Bucs' defense played absolutely no role in any of it, particularly not in the NFCCG where Brady threw three INTs and was actually OUTPLAYED by Rodgers.

Defense kinda matters and "tackle the catch" doesn't really work all too well in the postseason...:coffee:


Let's not forget that in the Super Bowl one of his "Golden Child" quarterbacks was on the other side of the field from Brady, had a passer rating of about a Blutarski after three quarters, and finished with a QB Rating of 52.3 because of garbage time.

His own theory with two of his elite quarterbacks played out. Mahomes was terrible because he had no help.

Two of his Supreme Beings throwing the football in the same game...and one sucked.

Thankfully, a paradox didn't occur and the universe is still intact.......

[Mojouw]

Context is key.

Correlation is not causation.

But I think you don't learn that in grade school.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Brandon Staley. DC for Rams. 1st in yards and points allowed after being 17th the year before and having an almost identical roster. 38 years old.

do you think the Chargers will let Staley out of the contract he just signed with them so he can switch over and become the Steelers' HC instead?

[pczach]

do you think the Chargers will let Staley out of the contract he just signed with them so he can switch over and become the Steelers' HC instead?


Word is they are installing a new offense. They are taking Herbert out of an offense he thrived in and making him learn another offensive system and terminology.

That could possibly blow up in their faces.

[teegre]

I just dont get that Banner was lead to believe that he would be the LT. He hasnt shown enough on tape to show he can handle it, IMO.

Sure he is a large human being, but he doesnt show the quickness of feet to redirect and stay with counter moves of the NFL elite rushers. Earlier in his career it was discussed that he should be RT or move inside to Guard. That normally isnt what you want in a LT. Now that he is coming off ACL injury, I dont know that his ability to handle a speed rusher converting an outside move to an inside counter move is what you want on the QB's blind side. Okorafor is much more athletic and I see an OT being selected in the draft as well in April.

True. It could just be Banner getting overly excited.

That said, maybe he is akin to Max Starks: only decent as a RT, but pretty good as a LT.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

True. It could just be Banner getting overly excited.

That said, maybe he is akin to Max Starks: only decent as a RT, but pretty good as a LT.

I dont think so. Max Starks was a better RT than LT. He routinely did not handle the counter move as a LT and was lazy with his punch. He only looked good at LT because the Steelers attempts to put a LT over there after Marvel Smiths back went down were bad in comparison. Trai Essex, Jonathan Scott, then eventually replaced by rookie 7th rounder Kelvin Beachum.

Banner's size and long arms are an asset on the edge, but his movement skills are not. He should be front side of the QB, so they can see when he gets beat by speed upfield and can step up in the pocket to evade the rush.