It Is Officially Mock Draft Season

[ThorndikeFFA]

Here are some toys to play with if you get bored. They are mock draft generators.

Enjoy. :yay3:

Draft Generators:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine

https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock-nfl-mock-draft-simulator/

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/

https://www.pff.com/draft/nfl-mock-draft-simulator



Bonus: Rookie Pool and Comp Pick Estimates

https://overthecap.com/draft/?fbclid=IwAR0U68ynLCPUWWLgCRD4qt44q_ctVyUeFSdf7N48 Jn4jK_Dx72dxqxzc5s4

[st33lersguy]

80 days exactly til the NFL draft. Last year I had Better Call Saul to distract me from a draft countdown right after the Super Bowl, this year not so much

[Rotorhead]

80 days exactly til the NFL draft. Last year I had Better Call Saul to distract me from a draft countdown right after the Super Bowl, this year not so much

Deadwood is a great show to watch until then

[EzraTank]

Cool fun tools.

My mock picks (letting tool decide)

DRAFTNETWORK:


24. Rashawn Slater OT, Northwestern
56. Michael Carter RB, North Carolina
87. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
128. Ronnie Perkins EDGE, Oklahoma
141. Jaylen Twyman IDL, Pittsburgh
204. Bryce Thompson CB, Tennessee
224. Drew Dalman IOL, Stanford
242. Josh Palmer WR, Tennessee
251. Erroll Thompson LB, Mississippi St.


FANSPEAK:


24. Teven Jenkins OT, Oklahome St.
55. Landon Dickerson OC, Alabama
87. Chuba Hubbard RB, Oka St.
125. Nick Eubanks TE, Michigan
138. Joshua Kaindoh EDGE, Florida St.
210. Davis Mills QB, Stanford
240. Cornell Powell WR, Clemson
249. Kyree Campbell DL, Florida


PROFOOTBALLNETWORK:


24. Alex Leatherwood OT, Alabama
56. Landon Dickerson OC, Alabama
87. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
122. Chuba Hubbard RB, Oka State
194. Joshua Kaindoh EDGE, Florida St.
212. Landon Young OT, Kentucky
221. Greg Eiland OG, Miss St.


PFF:


24. Alijah Vera-Tucker T, USC
56. Najee Harris RB, Alabama
87. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
129. Josh Myers C, Ohio St.
141. Patrick Jones II EDGE, Pitt
217. Richard LeCounte S, Georgia
226. Raymond Johnson III EDGE, Georgia Southern
244. Tristen Hoge G, BYU
253. Greg Eiland OG, Miss St.

[Shoes]

TE Tommy Tremble is moving equal or ahead of Hunter Long now in real life. Black&Gold mentioned him back in January, post #11 & #22

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/32638-2021-NFL-Draft-(Prospects-News)

[pczach]

TE Tommy Tremble is moving equal or ahead of Hunter Long now in real life. Black&Gold mentioned him back in January, post #11 & #22

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/32638-2021-NFL-Draft-(Prospects-News)




I'm worried about drafting Tommy Tremble because the first time he drops a pass they're going to call him Tommy Terrible. :bounce:

[Born2Steel]

Keep in mind the Steelers don't go into a draft with gaping position holes. There will be some moves made before the draft gets here. Zeroing in on a specific position in the 1st is not how they usually do things. Devin Bush is the ONLY example I can think of ever.

[ThorndikeFFA]

PFF:


24. Alijah Vera-Tucker T, USC
56. Najee Harris RB, Alabama
87. Hunter Long TE, Boston College
129. Josh Myers C, Ohio St.
141. Patrick Jones II EDGE, Pitt
217. Richard LeCounte S, Georgia
226. Raymond Johnson III EDGE, Georgia Southern
244. Tristen Hoge G, BYU
253. Greg Eiland OG, Miss St.


Dag! I think that I would consider touching myself inappropriately if we landed this draft. That's an A+++ draft!

[RunNGun]

Keep in mind the Steelers don't go into a draft with gaping position holes. There will be some moves made before the draft gets here. Zeroing in on a specific position in the 1st is not how they usually do things. Devin Bush is the ONLY example I can think of ever.

This offseason will be different than any we have had in awhile. There's going to be some holes that will need to be filled through the draft. It will be the most important draft since Ben was drafted, IMO. They need to hit big on 3 or 4 picks.

[teegre]

This offseason will be different than any we have had in awhile. There's going to be some holes that will need to be filled through the draft. It will be the most important draft since Ben was drafted, IMO. They need to hit big on 3 or 4 picks.

I get what you are saying, but I gotta agree with B2S on this one.

1. Colbert almost never enters a draft with a glaring hole. He will go into the draft with a "starter" at every position.

2. Drafting for need turns into Artie Burns... and for the Lions, it was Eric Ebron (Aaron Donald was the better prospect, but they needed a TE). Conversely, Denny Green was all about BPA... and thus, he drafted Randy Moss (despite already having Chris Carter and Jake Reed).

3. That said, when two players are equally ranked, "need" becomes the tie-breaker.

4. In 2001, the Steelers have three guys ranked exactly the same. They traded down three spots, and still got one of those players. I could see the same thing happening this draft: they have a few players of equal value at 24 (let's say Nick Bolton, Christian Darrisaw, Najee Harris, and Pat Freiermuth); they trade down to 28 and take whichever player is still left.

[cubanstogie]

I’ll be shocked if Harris available in round 2 by the time we pic. a stud tackle and Harris would help Rudolph or Haskins immensely.

[Shoes]

I'm worried about drafting Tommy Tremble because the first time he drops a pass they're going to call him Tommy Terrible. :bounce:


:toofunny: I was thinking the same thing! "TT"

[teegre]

:toofunny: I was thinking the same thing! "TT"

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[Born2Steel]

I get what you are saying, but I gotta agree with B2S on this one.

1. Colbert almost never enters a draft with a glaring hole. He will go into the draft with a "starter" at every position.

2. Drafting for need turns into Artie Burns... and for the Lions, it was Eric Ebron (Aaron Donald was the better prospect, but they needed a TE). Conversely, Denny Green was all about BPA... and thus, he drafted Randy Moss (despite already having Chris Carter and Jake Reed).

3. That said, when two players are equally ranked, "need" becomes the tie-breaker.

4. In 2001, the Steelers have three guys ranked exactly the same. They traded down three spots, and still got one of those players. I could see the same thing happening this draft: they have a few players of equal value at 24 (let's say Nick Bolton, Christian Darrisaw, Najee Harris, and Pat Freiermuth); they trade down to 28 and take whichever player is still left.

I completely agree the OL has to be a priority in this draft(only 4 guys currently under contract). So, I understand many people selecting OT/OC in the first round in their mock drafts. I think if you look at the class in a bigger picture view there are quality OL prospects on all 3 days. My infatuation, I guess I'll call it that, with the ILBs in this draft is after those top 3 the floor drops out from under the position. Not that there are not other good LBs in this draft, just that Parsons/Bolton/Collins are going to be high quality starters day 1. I think the same can be said for safeties in this draft. I'm less trigger happy to take one of the top safeties at 24 though. I think the Steelers have 8 picks this draft, but only 3 in the top 100. There needs to be several quality picks out of this draft, IMO.

[RunNGun]

I get what you are saying, but I gotta agree with B2S on this one.

1. Colbert almost never enters a draft with a glaring hole. He will go into the draft with a "starter" at every position.

2. Drafting for need turns into Artie Burns... and for the Lions, it was Eric Ebron (Aaron Donald was the better prospect, but they needed a TE). Conversely, Denny Green was all about BPA... and thus, he drafted Randy Moss (despite already having Chris Carter and Jake Reed).

3. That said, when two players are equally ranked, "need" becomes the tie-breaker.

4. In 2001, the Steelers have three guys ranked exactly the same. They traded down three spots, and still got one of those players. I could see the same thing happening this draft: they have a few players of equal value at 24 (let's say Nick Bolton, Christian Darrisaw, Najee Harris, and Pat Freiermuth); they trade down to 28 and take whichever player is still left.

The difference between now and previous years is we had the cap space to fill gaps in the roster. This offseason we do not have that luxury. Hopefully, you're right and they can make it work., but I do believe it will be difficult.

I know a few of you are really high on Bolton. He's a great LBer, don't get me wrong, but when will they learn their lesson that small fast LBers aren't always the answer. If you look at Shazier, Sean Spence, and Bush...they all have one thing in common...injured. I understand the need, but I also believe it's better to have a guy that can cover like Bush as well as a thumper type like VW.

[teegre]

I completely agree the OL has to be a priority in this draft(only 4 guys currently under contract). So, I understand many people selecting OT/OC in the first round in their mock drafts. I think if you look at the class in a bigger picture view there are quality OL prospects on all 3 days. My infatuation, I guess I'll call it that, with the ILBs in this draft is after those top 3 the floor drops out from under the position. Not that there are not other good LBs in this draft, just that Parsons/Bolton/Collins are going to be high quality starters day 1. I think the same can be said for safeties in this draft. I'm less trigger happy to take one of the top safeties at 24 though. I think the Steelers have 8 picks this draft, but only 3 in the top 100. There needs to be several quality picks out of this draft, IMO.

That shows up when I do these simulators. If I go O-line first, then in R2... suddenly, i do not have an impact ILB. Conversely, when I go ILB in R1, in R2 and R3 and R4 there are still plenty of top-notch O-linemen still available. I know that it is cliche, but this year's O-line crop is the deepest that I have seen in years.

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The difference between now and previous years is we had the cap space to fill gaps in the roster. This offseason we do not have that luxury. Hopefully, you're right and they can make it work., but I do believe it will be difficult.

I know a few of you are really high on Bolton. He's a great LBer, don't get me wrong, but when will they learn their lesson that small fast LBers aren't always the answer. If you look at Shazier, Sean Spence, and Bush...they all have one thing in common...injured. I understand the need, but I also believe it's better to have a guy that can cover like Bush and a thumper type like VW.

In Omar Khan I trust.

Zaven Collins might be the answer then (he is 260 lbs). :nod:

[Born2Steel]

Lavonte David is 6'1"-235lbs
Devin White is 6'0"- 235lbs
Devin Bush is 5'11"-235lbs
Vince Williams is 6'1"- 235lbs
Patrick Queen is 6'1"-230lbs
Isaiah Simmons is 6'4"-230lbs

Micah Parsons is 6'3"-245lbs
Nick Bolton is 6'0"-230lbs
Zaven Collins is 6'4"-260lbs

Just illustrating these guys are not 'smaller LBs'.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

If Pouncey is back for 1 more season I am looking at the Steelers looking at Quinn Meinerz in the 4th as a guy that can play G and learn C

.24 Travis Etienne RB Clemson
.56 Liam Eichenberg OT Notre Dame
.87 Rashad Weaver DE Pitt
.129 Quinn Meinerz G Wisconsin Whitewater
.141 Daelen Hayes Edge Notre Dame
.217 Tre McKitty TE Georgia
.226 Justin Hilliard ILB Ohio St
.244 Tre Brown CB Oklahoma
.253 John Bates TE Boise St

I think Najee Harris will get picked by Miami before the Steelers get a chance, so Etienne is the next best RB. Shoes gets 2 TE's, but no premium picks. Bates doesnt have great college production at Boise, but was one of the best blockers at the Senior Bowl. Weaver they know from Pitt and has the frame to play 5 technique, just needs to add some bulk.

[Born2Steel]

That shows up when I do these simulators. If I go O-line first, then in R2... suddenly, i do not have an impact ILB. Conversely, when I go ILB in R1, in R2 and R3 and R4 there are still plenty of top-notch O-linemen still available. I know that it is cliche, but this year's O-line crop is the deepest that I have seen in years.

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In Omar Khan I trust.

Zaven Collins might be the answer then (he is 260 lbs). :nod:

I keep thinking Zaven Collins goes to the Bears and becomes their next Urlacher. It just seems to fit.

[Shoes]

If Pouncey is back for 1 more season I am looking at the Steelers looking at Quinn Meinerz in the 4th as a guy that can play G and learn C

.24 Travis Etienne RB Clemson
.56 Liam Eichenberg OT Notre Dame
.87 Rashad Weaver DE Pitt
.129 Quinn Meinerz G Wisconsin Whitewater
.141 Daelen Hayes Edge Notre Dame
.217 Tre McKitty TE Georgia
.226 Justin Hilliard ILB Ohio St
.244 Tre Brown CB Oklahoma
.253 John Bates TE Boise St

I think Najee Harris will get picked by Miami before the Steelers get a chance, so Etienne is the next best RB. Shoes gets 2 TE's, but no premium picks. Bates doesnt have great college production at Boise, but was one of the best blockers at the Senior Bowl. Weaver they know from Pitt and has the frame to play 5 technique, just needs to add some bulk.

It's very possible the Steelers will take a RB early, but if Parsons, Collins or Bolton are there at 24, do you think the Steelers will pass on them?I protest on those TE selections :chuckle:

[RunNGun]

Lavonte David is 6'1"-235lbs
Devin White is 6'0"- 235lbs
Devin Bush is 5'11"-235lbs
Vince Williams is 6'1"- 235lbs
Patrick Queen is 6'1"-230lbs
Isaiah Simmons is 6'4"-230lbs

Micah Parsons is 6'3"-245lbs
Nick Bolton is 6'0"-230lbs
Zaven Collins is 6'4"-260lbs

Just illustrating these guys are not 'smaller LBs'.

It has become a league norm. Can't argue that. The Steelers have not had the best luck with it for whatever reason. Maybe it's the scheme? I will say Devin White and VW look way bigger than Bush on camera. Those listed weights aren't always legit.

[Born2Steel]

It has become a league norm. Can't argue that. The Steelers have not had the best luck with it for whatever reason. Maybe it's the scheme? I will say Devin White and VW look way bigger than Bush on camera. Those listed weights aren't always legit.

I average the weights up or down to the closest 5 or 10.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

It's very possible the Steelers will take a RB early, but if Parsons, Collins or Bolton are there at 24, do you think the Steelers will pass on them?I protest on those TE selections :chuckle:

I think its possible they pass on all 3. Collins is the only 1st round pick of the 3 IMO and at 6'4" 260, is he really an ILB or is he an OLB in the Steelers system. Also, what kind of short shuttle, 40 time and vertical measurables does he have? Looks on film to get sideline to sideline well, but people are only projecting him to run a 4.8. That is rather pedestrian for an ILB.

As for your TE's. I think Bates can be a blocker and get a hat on day 1, while McKitty could slide and be a good value as a move TE that is a willing blocker. Too many other holes on the roster and Ebron is still under contract for another year.

[ThorndikeFFA]

You didn't watch any Penn State games then; Parsons is the real deal. What's more, he will absolutely light up the combine with off the charts numbers. Write it down. There's a reason a lot of these drafts have him going in the top ten.

[teegre]

Collins is the only 1st round pick of the 3

Clarification: You do not see Parsons as a R1 pick?

[86WARD]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210210/539b69318b3201c808f4bdbf42559adc.jpg

[RunNGun]

If Haden is cut, which isn't likely, but possible then Pat Surtain 3 could be an option at 24. Idk how I'd feel about that.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Clarification: You do not see Parsons as a R1 pick?

I think his off field issues keep him off the Steelers board...and several other teams.

According to an ESPN report (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30349666/former-penn-state-football-player-says-coach-told-not-report-physical-fight-police), James Franklin told a former player not to report a fight with a star linebacker to police. According to documents filed by Isaiah Humphries, he and Micah Parsons fought involving punching, choking and a knife in March 2018.

Former Penn State player details fight with Micah Parsons, claims James Franklin told him not to talk to police, according to ESPN | ABC27 (https://www.abc27.com/sports/former-penn-state-player-details-fight-with-micah-parsons-claims-james-franklin-told-him-not-to-talk-to-police-according-to-espn/)


A former Penn State football player claims that in 2018 he was subjected to hazing and harassment by four teammates an average of two to three times a week for nine months.
Former PSU football player gives details on alleged hazing by teammates | WOLF (fox56.com) (https://fox56.com/news/local/former-psu-football-player-gives-details-on-alleged-hazing-by-teammates)

Parsons is considered a top-five to ten talent in the draft and some believe that he could go as high a four or five overall. This information on Parsons isn’t entirely new, however.

...there are other allegations of alcohol abuse and partying that also must be discussed. Either way, it could change up the top of the draft for a few teams.
Miami Dolphins could remove Parsons off draft list after report (phinphanatic.com) (https://phinphanatic.com/2021/01/24/miami-dolphins-remove-parsons-off-draft-list-report/)

[hawaiiansteeler]

You didn't watch any Penn State games then; Parsons is the real deal. What's more, he will absolutely light up the combine with off the charts numbers. Write it down. There's a reason a lot of these drafts have him going in the top ten.

I'll bet you Parsons does not light it up at this year's Combine. :wink02:

[RunNGun]

If they could get a OT in rd 1 and then trade up in the 2nd to land Freirmuth I would be ecstatic! Freirmuth is my guy.

[teegre]

@El-Gonzo

Oh... oh my. :scared:

[Shoes]

I think his off field issues keep him off the Steelers board...and several other teams.

According to an ESPN report (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30349666/former-penn-state-football-player-says-coach-told-not-report-physical-fight-police), James Franklin told a former player not to report a fight with a star linebacker to police. According to documents filed by Isaiah Humphries, he and Micah Parsons fought involving punching, choking and a knife in March 2018.

Former Penn State player details fight with Micah Parsons, claims James Franklin told him not to talk to police, according to ESPN | ABC27 (https://www.abc27.com/sports/former-penn-state-player-details-fight-with-micah-parsons-claims-james-franklin-told-him-not-to-talk-to-police-according-to-espn/)


A former Penn State football player claims that in 2018 he was subjected to hazing and harassment by four teammates an average of two to three times a week for nine months.
Former PSU football player gives details on alleged hazing by teammates | WOLF (fox56.com) (https://fox56.com/news/local/former-psu-football-player-gives-details-on-alleged-hazing-by-teammates)

Parsons is considered a top-five to ten talent in the draft and some believe that he could go as high a four or five overall. This information on Parsons isn’t entirely new, however.

...there are other allegations of alcohol abuse and partying that also must be discussed. Either way, it could change up the top of the draft for a few teams.
Miami Dolphins could remove Parsons off draft list after report (phinphanatic.com) (https://phinphanatic.com/2021/01/24/miami-dolphins-remove-parsons-off-draft-list-report/)


I think we can safely flush the name of Parsons from the Steelers draft board.

[Born2Steel]

And then there were only 2......??? If he's still a top 10 talent some team is going to grab him in the top 15.

[teegre]

And then there were only 2......??? If he's still a top 10 talent some team is going to grab him in the top 15.

As someone once said: If Hitler had a good enough 40 time, some team would draft him.

That someone was TAPES18N1. :lol:



(Yes, I know the quote actually says “Charles Manson”, but I always enjoy throwing shade at that antisemite.)

[Born2Steel]

As someone once said: If Hitler had a good enough 40 time, some team would draft him.

That someone was TAPES18N1. :lol:



(Yes, I know the quote actually says “Charles Manson”, but I always enjoy throwing shade at that antisemite.)

I'm just sayin'.....! I never really considered Parsons within reach on draft day anyway so these reports aren't THAT disappointing. I would still pull the trigger on Bolton at 24. I maybe don't fully appreciate Zaven Collins yet. But who moves like that at that size? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_fgBNv2cr0

Wait until he gets into NFL condition. :scared: Collins never played on the edge but with his size why not? He's obviously a monster in the middle. I'm having a difficult time finding game footage for Collins though.You can (Google) 'Nick Bolton vs' and get his defensive snaps against teams in actual game play. But I don't find that for Collins.

Watching Bolton you see he is always around the ball carrier. He does miss on some tackles and can get handled by OL when they get on him. And there are some plays where you wonder what exactly his assignment was. But then he's hitting the QB, getting to the RB for a TFL, making a goal-line/short yardage stop. Always flying to the ball. A little polish and this guy is a Devin Bush twin. I don't think the team need meets position/player value is high enough to trade up for Bolton like Bush, but on the field very similar players.

[Shoes]

I the Steelers will draft a RB in R1 or R2 or Tomlin & Colbert will be fired :chuckle: Art II has been harping on the run game since 2009 and his tone over the last month has at least to me confirmed this. Unless, of course, some gem in the top 5 slips down to 24.

[RunNGun]

I the Steelers will draft a RB in R1 or R2 or Tomlin & Colbert will be fired :chuckle: Art II has been harping on the run game since 2009 and his tone over the last month has at least to me confirmed this. Unless, of course, some gem in the top 5 slips down to 24.

The only way drafting a RB in rd 1 solves the problem is if they go OL in rd 2 and 3.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

As someone once said: If Hitler had a good enough 40 time, some team would draft him.

That someone was TAPES18N1. :lol:



(Yes, I know the quote actually says “Charles Manson”, but I always enjoy throwing shade at that antisemite.)

If Hannibal Lechter ran a 4.35, he would be diagnosed with an "eating disorder" and signed to a roster. :hungry:

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The only way drafting a RB in rd 1 solves the problem is if they go OL in rd 2 and 3.

I disagree. They already solved half of the problem by getting rid of Fichtner and Sarrett. Still have good linemen like DeCastro, Pouncey, Chukks, Dotson on the roster. I expect Banner to be signed and 1 or 2 O linemen drafted.

Jaylen Samuels averaged 3.1 YPC last season and behind a decent scheme to run the ball I really believe he could average 3.5 YPC if given 7-10 attempts per game. I still have no idea why he was at the end of the depth chart, when Benny Snell was so terrible.

[Shoes]

The only way drafting a RB in rd 1 solves the problem is if they go OL in rd 2 and 3.


I can see them going left OT in R2, but I think Art made his will loud and clear.

[Rotorhead]

The only way drafting a RB in rd 1 solves the problem is if they go OL in rd 2 and 3.

Getting 2 OL and a RB in the first 3 rounds works for me

[st33lersguy]

A new RB will be useless without addressing OL. I'm in favor of drafting RB in the first 3 rounds but would rather them draft OL first

[RunNGun]

Getting 2 OL and a RB in the first 3 rounds works for me

How about a TE that's willing to block and do the dirty work in rd 1 and then go for OL in 2 and 3? A great OL can make an average back look great, but there's very few RBs that can run behind a below average OL. Saquon Barkley comes to mind.

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I can see them going left OT in R2, but I think Art made his will loud and clear.

I think that's foolish, but then again I don't own the best franchise in football lol.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I can see them going left OT in R2, but I think Art made his will loud and clear.

Steelers honestly have so many needs to improve and at lower cost than spending in Free Agency. They can really go BPA in a lot of areas on the first 2 days and help themselves.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Steelers honestly have so many needs to improve and at lower cost than spending in Free Agency. They can really go BPA in a lot of areas on the first 2 days and help themselves.

:iagree:

[Rotorhead]

How about a TE that's willing to block and do the dirty work in rd 1 and then go for OL in 2 and 3? A great OL can make an average back look great, but there's very few RBs that can run behind a below average OL. Saquon Barkley comes to mind.

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I think that's foolish, but then again I don't own the best franchise in football lol.

If the TE is more of a blocker than we have now then sure, I am not up to speed on college players, but if there is a Heath Miller clone available in there then sure.

[Born2Steel]

So....let everyone make a list of their top 3-5 TEs, and see how much overlap there is in opinion on here and in the general media/mock draft sims.

1. Brevin Jordan
2. Tommy Tremble
3. Kenny Yeboah
4. Hunter Long
No particular order. I prefer the TEs that are above average in-line as well as pass catchers. Not a big fan of the 'big WR' type.

[hawaiiansteeler]

So....let everyone make a list of their top 3-5 TEs, and see how much overlap there is in opinion on here and in the general media/mock draft sims.

1. Brevin Jordan
2. Tommy Tremble
3. Kenny Yeboah
4. Hunter Long
No particular order. I prefer the TEs that are above average in-line as well as pass catchers. Not a big fan of the 'big WR' type.

1. Kyle Pitts
2. Brevin Jordan
3. Pat Freiermuth
4. Hunter Long
5. Tommy Tremble
6. Kenny Yeboah

[Shoes]

Pitts and Freiermuth will be gone at R1 & early R2. I'd take Long over Pitts & Freiermuth if they were available. Freiermuth & Long are very close in talent imo and are more of a complete TE. Freiermuth had shoulder surgery in October so I don't know how all of that will pan out. There are 3 or 4 good TE talents that decide to return to school in 2021.

I'd take

Hunter Long
Brevin Jordan
Tommy Tremble
Tre McKitty
Kenny Yeboah

[ThorndikeFFA]

In this case, here's how I see it.

1. Pat Freiermuth
2. Brevin Jordan
3. Hunter Long
4. Kenny Yeboah
5. Tommy Tremble

I really think that Freiermuth is the guy who can be that Heath Miller type player we all miss. Good speed, very good route runner, very good hands and a willing blocker.

That said, I'm a little confused as to how TE is finding its way so high up so many Steeler mocks. We just spent money on Ebron last off season. I get it that McDonald just retired, but how much did he play this year? I see TE as a need, but not a first or second day need.

I'm seeing a similar thing on a lot of the mock draft sites; several have S as a top three need for the Steelers. I don't know where that is coming from with Fitz and Edmunds under contract.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

1. Kyle Pitts
2. Brevin Jordan
3. Pat Freiermuth
4. Hunter Long
5. Tommy Tremble
6. Kenny Yeboah

I think if you flip 2 with 3 and 5 with 6. That is how it could likely shake out.

And in 2020, the #6 TE (Harrison Bryant) didnt come off the board until the 4th round. So possibly a good chance that somebody like Tremble is there in the 3rd or 4th when the Steelers pick.

I mocked that the Steelers didnt select TE until I think end of the 4th in Tre McKitty and instead went DE in the 3rd and OG in the first pick of the 4th, but they could easily go TE in the 3rd and go looking for linemen in the 4th round.

[RunNGun]

1. Pat Freirmuth- Not the most athletic out of the bunch, but he is the most well rounded and most physical. Heath Miller is a good comparison, but I do believe Freirmuth offers more in YAC. He has the most potential as a blocker as well.

2. Kenny Yeboah- The more I watch on this guy the more I like. He has great speed and can really get vertical. He makes the acrobatic catches and will do well in the yac department. What surprised me most about him is that he's a solid blocker. He may have the most upside out of this list.

3. Hunter Long- Reminds me a lot of Jesse James. He's a stiff runner and doesn't offer much in YAC. He has reliable hands and is a decent security blanket option. Could develop into a solid blocker and a solid #2 TE.

I watched highlights on the top 7 or 8 TEs and left a majority of them off this list because I didn't feel they were what the Steelers would be looking for at the TE position in this draft, not because they were less talented.

Edit...I'll throw Tremble in there at 4. I couldn't find much video on him, but I read that blocking is his strength and he was used a lot as a fullback. He could be a nice addition in the 6th or 7th round if we don't draft a TE sooner.

[Born2Steel]

1. Pat Freirmuth- Not the most athletic out of the bunch, but he is the most well rounded and most physical. Heath Miller is a good comparison, but I do believe Freirmuth offers more in YAC. He has the most potential as a blocker as well.

2. Kenny Yeboah- The more I watch on this guy the more I like. He has great speed and can really get vertical. He makes the acrobatic catches and will do well in the yac department. What surprised me most about him is that he's a solid blocker. He may have the most upside out of this list.

3. Hunter Long- Reminds me a lot of Jesse James. He's a stiff runner and doesn't offer much in YAC. He has reliable hands and is a decent security blanket option. Could develop into a solid blocker and a solid #2 TE.

I watched highlights on the top 7 or 8 TEs and left a majority of them off this list because I didn't feel they were what the Steelers would be looking for at the TE position in this draft, not because they were less talented.

Edit...I'll throw Tremble in there at 4. I couldn't find much video on him, but I read that blocking is his strength and he was used a lot as a fullback. He could be a nice addition in the 6th or 7th round if we don't draft a TE sooner.

I like your prospect descriptions. I watched Ole Miss play most of their games in 2020 and maybe I was looking for something else, but never really thought that TE is awesome. But when he made plays for the Rebels they were 'wow-like' plays.

I liked Tremble over Long though because I thought he was more position flexible with near the same offensive skillset/talent.

And Brevin Jordan, How can you not like a Miami TE?

[RunNGun]

I like your prospect descriptions. I watched Ole Miss play most of their games in 2020 and maybe I was looking for something else, but never really thought that TE is awesome. But when he made plays for the Rebels they were 'wow-like' plays.

I liked Tremble over Long though because I thought he was more position flexible with near the same offensive skillset/talent.

And Brevin Jordan, How can you not like a Miami TE?

This is what sold me on Yeboah... https://youtu.be/8oLmFlkhNdw
In this game, not only does he torch Alabama, but there's 2 different occasions where he handled an edge blitzer by himself. He also held up very well in run blocking. Of course this short highlight doesn't show any of the bad, but I liked what I saw against an elite defense.

I don't really know much about Tremble. It sounds like he may have been underutilized. They used him to block a lot which is what I like about him, but he's also very athletic. He may have more upside than Long, but Long is more pro ready, IMO.

If I had a 5th TE it would have been Jordan. He's short for the position at 6'3in. and I had him pegged as more of a big WR, although he did show the will to block. My thinking is that they will stay away from those types in this draft since they already have Ebron and Gentry hasn't proved he can do anything at this point, so blocking is a necessity.

[Shoes]

24: R1 P24 RB Najee Harris - Alabama
55: R2 P23 C Creed Humphrey - Oklahoma
87: R3 P23 OT Spencer Brown - Northern Iowa
127: R4 P23 LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
140: R4 P36 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
216: R6 P31 WR Josh Imatorbhebhe - Illinois
243: R7 P18 S James Wiggins - Cincinnati
252: R7 P27 P Max Duffy - Kentucky

[FrancoLambert]

A new RB will be useless without addressing OL. I'm in favor of drafting RB in the first 3 rounds but would rather them draft OL first

And an improved OL making holes for “Snail”or “Shake and Bake for no gain,” improves the run game very little.
If they value Harris as a premier RB, and he’s available at 24, I say take the cornerstone RB and go OL thereafter since that group seems to be deep.

[Disco1981]

Now I think Creed Humphrey will be the pic...And I'm ok with that...The next great Steelers Center!

[RunNGun]

24: R1 P24 RB Najee Harris - Alabama
55: R2 P23 C Creed Humphrey - Oklahoma
87: R3 P23 OT Spencer Brown - Northern Iowa
127: R4 P23 LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
140: R4 P36 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
216: R6 P31 WR Josh Imatorbhebhe - Illinois
243: R7 P18 S James Wiggins - Cincinnati
252: R7 P27 P Max Duffy - Kentucky

I can get on board with this draft!

[RunNGun]

And an improved OL making holes for “Snail”or “Shake and Bake for no gain,” improves the run game very little.
If they value Harris as a premier RB, and he’s available at 24, I say take the cornerstone RB and go OL thereafter since that group seems to be deep.

While I'm probably in the minority here, I do think Benny Snell can be productive behind a good Oline, but I agree if we can get Harris in RD1 and get a T and C in RD2 and 3 it will improve the run game. However, a TE like Freirmuth would benefit the running game almost as much as a RB would, IMO. Having a guy like Ebron makes the offense a little more predictable. You can't set up in a run package with Ebron as your sole TE and be able to run the ball, but with a guy like Freirmuth you can keep linebackers and safeties honest, because he is a much better run blocker, as well as a solid receiving option.

[RunNGun]

Updated mock...
1. Pat Freirmuth TE, Penn State
2. Liam Eichenberg OT, Notre Dame
3. Quinn Meinerz C, Wisconsin
4. Brian Robinson Jr. RB, Alabama
4. Joshua Kaindoh Edge, Florida State
6. Frank Darby WR, Arizona State
7. O'Bryan Goodson NT, Memphis
7. Erroll Thompson ILB, Mississippi State

PFF simulator

[hawaiiansteeler]

Shoes' official mock draft:

24: R1 P24 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn St
55: R2 P23 TE Hunter Long - Boston College
87: R3 P23 TE Tommy Tremble - Notre Dame
127: R4 P23 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
140: R4 P36 TE Trey McKitty - Georgia
216: R6 P31 TE Quintin Morris - Bowling Green
243: R7 P18 TE Nick Eubanks - Michigan
252: R7 P27 TE John Bates - Boise St

[pczach]

Shoes' official mock draft:

24: R1 P24 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn St
55: R2 P23 TE Hunter Long - Boston College
87: R3 P23 TE Tommy Tremble - Notre Dame
127: R4 P23 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
140: R4 P36 TE Trey McKitty - Georgia
216: R6 P31 TE Quintin Morris - Bowling Green
243: R7 P18 TE Nick Eubanks - Michigan
252: R7 P27 TE John Bates - Boise St



I think you really missed an opportunity when you didn't move up to take Brevin Jordan in the second round. :lol:

Shoes approves this mock!

[Shoes]

Shoes' official mock draft:

24: R1 P24 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn St
55: R2 P23 TE Hunter Long - Boston College
87: R3 P23 TE Tommy Tremble - Notre Dame
127: R4 P23 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
140: R4 P36 TE Trey McKitty - Georgia
216: R6 P31 TE Quintin Morris - Bowling Green
243: R7 P18 TE Nick Eubanks - Michigan
252: R7 P27 TE John Bates - Boise St



Awesome, the TE position would be secured! :lol:

[RunNGun]

Shoes' official mock draft:

24: R1 P24 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn St
55: R2 P23 TE Hunter Long - Boston College
87: R3 P23 TE Tommy Tremble - Notre Dame
127: R4 P23 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
140: R4 P36 TE Trey McKitty - Georgia
216: R6 P31 TE Quintin Morris - Bowling Green
243: R7 P18 TE Nick Eubanks - Michigan
252: R7 P27 TE John Bates - Boise St

Bold strategy Cotton.

[86WARD]

The Shoes Draft:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210213/b255a489ffb389aadf101da5faba06ef.jpg

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Keep in mind the Steelers don't go into a draft with gaping position holes. There will be some moves made before the draft gets here. Zeroing in on a specific position in the 1st is not how they usually do things. Devin Bush is the ONLY example I can think of ever.

There are some gaping holes on the Steelers right now: QB, RB, TE, OL.

[Shoes]

There are some gaping holes on the Steelers right now: QB, RB, TE, OL.

Well if Ben comes back the Steelers will not draft a QB this year. As for RB, TE and OL they don't need to draft all three. They can do what they have done for past 6 years at the TE position and that is patch and go. Not fun, but so it is.

[Mojouw]

Well if Ben comes back the Steelers will not draft a QB this year. As for RB, TE and OL they don't need to draft all three. They can do what they have done for past 6 years at the TE position and that is patch and go. Not fun, but so it is.

I think they already drafted their QB in Haskins. If you ignore his Rrdskins debacle (got to read that in your best Myron Cope voice), you have a highly rated QB from a Power 5 conference team. That's Colbert catnip.

[Shoes]

I think they already drafted their QB in Haskins. If you ignore his Rrdskins debacle (got to read that in your best Myron Cope voice), you have a highly rated QB from a Power 5 conference team. That's Colbert catnip.

Agreed

[teegre]

Whether he is a true “TE” or not, Pitts is the #1 non-quarterback in this draft.

[RunNGun]

24. Jayson Oweh- Edge, Penn State
55. Javonte Williams- RB, North Carolina
87. Quinn Meinerz- C, Wisconsin-Whitewater
128. Spencer Brown- T, Northern Iowa
141. Baron Browning- ILB, Ohio State
217. O'Bryan Goodson- DL, Memphis
225. Jalen Virgil- WR, Appalachian State
244. Greg Eisworth- S, Iowa State
253. Josh Imatorbhebhe- WR, Illinois

Oweh has reportedly been running 4.38-4.42 40 yard dashes at 6'5 250 lbs. He doesn't really fit the scheme, as he played with his hand in the dirt, but man this guy is a freak with a lot of potential. If they could teach him to play in space he could be a very good linebacker. Reminds me of Montez Sweat.

[teegre]

This one isn't half bad!!!
https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/gm-report/pittsburgh-steelers-offense-mock-draft

Some highlights:

R1: Samuel Comsi ... duh (O-line)
R2: Javante Williams ... second best RB in the draft
R3: Quinn Meinerz ... my draft crush!!!
R4: Tony Fields ... someone to pair with Devin Bush

[hawaiiansteeler]

This one isn't half bad!!!
https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/gm-report/pittsburgh-steelers-offense-mock-draft

Some highlights:

R1: Samuel Comsi ... duh (O-line)
R2: Javante Williams ... second best RB in the draft
R3: Quinn Meinerz ... my draft crush!!!
R4: Tony Fields ... someone to pair with Devin Bush

that's my favorite mock I've seen so far!

[EzraTank]

This one isn't half bad!!!
https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/gm-report/pittsburgh-steelers-offense-mock-draft

Some highlights:

R1: Samuel Comsi ... duh (O-line)
R2: Javante Williams ... second best RB in the draft
R3: Quinn Meinerz ... my draft crush!!!
R4: Tony Fields ... someone to pair with Devin Bush

Teegre, who is the best RB?

[hawaiiansteeler]

who is the best RB?

Najee Harris, Travis Etienne and Javonte Williams are the top 3.

Harris makes the most sense for the Steelers in Round 1, Javonte Williams in Round 2.

RBs I like in Round 3 are Kenneth Gainwell, Michael Carter and Rhamondre Stevenson.

[RunNGun]

I like Javonte Williams. He's also 3 years younger than Harris. Less wear and tear and he's faster.

[teegre]

Teegre, who is the best RB?

Najee Harris :nod:

[hawaiiansteeler]

I like Javonte Williams. He's also 3 years younger than Harris. Less wear and tear and he's faster.


Austin Gayle
@PFF_AustinGayle

UNC RB Javonte Williams (5'10", 220)

- Graduated with a 4.6 GPA and was valedictorian of his class

- Played LB until his senior year of high school

- Now 20 years old (Born April 2000)

- Averaged 0.48 missed tackles/attempt in 2020 (1st in the NCAA)

https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1356682755573248009

[RunNGun]

^^Impressive numbers. Especially, the missed tackle rate. Anxious to see his 40 time. I've read anywhere from a 4.4-4.6. I wouldn't call him a homerun hitter by any means, but he's got a lot of acceleration and great balance. Not too many highlights of him catching the ball, but that may not be a necessity with our new OC.

[teegre]

^^Impressive numbers. Especially, the missed tackle rate. Anxious to see his 40 time. I've read anywhere from a 4.4-4.6. I wouldn't call him a homerun hitter by any means, but he's got a lot of acceleration and great balance. Not too many highlights of him catching the ball, but that may not be a necessity with our new OC.

Javante Williams rushed for a TD or a first down on 45.9% of his rushes.

(That’s a LOT.)

[cubanstogie]

Ive been looking at a ton of mocks, yesterday saw one where Steelers took Rondale Moore WR purdue. I’m thinking O line, RB, LB, CB but a wide receiver I’ve never seen play, wow. round 2 or 3 maybe if BPA but would be bummed if WR taken in first. Another reason I stopped watching NFL channel.

[RunNGun]

Javante Williams rushed for a TD or a first down on 45.9% of his rushes.

(That’s a LOT.)

Incredible. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Williams is the 1st RB off the board.

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Ive been looking at a ton of mocks, yesterday saw one where Steelers took Rondale Moore WR purdue. I’m thinking O line, RB, LB, CB but a wide receiver I’ve never seen play, wow. round 2 or 3 maybe if BPA but would be bummed if WR taken in first. Another reason I stopped watching NFL channel.

We will obviously know more after the Steelers make some moves in free agency, but as of right now, I wouldn't rule out WR in rd 1.

I could see RB,TE,WR,OT,C, and OLB in RD 1. Hopefully, free agency can narrow that list a bit.

[pczach]

Went to Fanspeak.com. Traded down a few times, and traded up once.


30: R1 P30 OT Jalen Mayfield - Michigan
55: R2 P23 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
87: R3 P23 C Quinn Meinerz - UW-Whitewater
93: R3 P29 RB Michael Carter - North Carolina
140: R4 P35 CB Benjamin St-Juste - Minnesota
167: R5 P23 EDGE Shaka Toney - Penn State
206: R6 P23 S Tyree Gillespie - Missouri
214: R6 P31 DL Naquan Jones - Michigan State
227: R7 P1 WR Josh Palmer - Tennessee

[hawaiiansteeler]

Arthur Moat's mock:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwUpQUiXMAAGLTS?format=jpg&name=small

[ThorndikeFFA]

I just came up with this mock using thedraftnetwork.com. I think I could live with this, but I wanted more OL, specifically an OT. But, man is there a serious drop off in quality for the OTs this year after the middle of the third round (projections)! What I'm saying is that I like these picks but also wish I could've thrown in a good OT.

24 Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech. The departure of Hilton and Nelson makes CB the Steelers #1 need. The problem is the Steelers have a couple of #1 needs.
55 Wyatt Davis, OG, Ohio State. Davis may be the best IOL in this draft.
87 Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis. Gainwell projects as an every down back in the NFL with good vision and very good hands in the passing game.
128 Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Edge, Notre Dame. We need depth at this position at least. We could go Edge earlier if the team is projects the loss of Watt after next season.
140 Tre' McKitty, TE, Georgia. Another position of need and McKitty has some size and some moves with the ball in his hands. He's also a serviceable blocker in the run game.
216 Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois. Good size, speed and hands. He's moved around and then sat out last year. I think he would be a high value pick here.
245 Camryn Bynum, CB, Cal. Good size and speed. Immediate help on ST and potential CB2 with some work.
254 Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas. Best available athlete in this position. Possible move to S.

[86WARD]

Not very realistic...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210325/c6c9f641db85def8d25c64839422fe0c.jpg

[teegre]

Based on Colbert’s affinity for Ohio State, and the Steelers brass’s conversations with multiple Buckeyes, here is a new mock draft.

R1: Ohio State, OG, Wyatt Davis
R2: Ohio State, OC, Josh Myers
R3: Ohio State, DT, Tommy Togiai
R4: Ohio State, CB, Shaun Wade
R4: Ohio State, RB, Trey Sermon
R6: Ohio State, ILB, Baron Browning
R6: Ohio State, OLB, Jonathan Cooper
R7: Ohio State, TE, Luke Farrell

[pczach]

Based on Colbert’s affinity for Ohio State, and the Steelers brass’s conversations with multiple Buckeyes, here is a new mock draft.

R1: Ohio State, OG, Wyatt Davis
R2: Ohio State, OC, Josh Myers
R3: Ohio State, DT, Tommy Togiai
R4: Ohio State, CB, Shaun Wade
R4: Ohio State, RB, Trey Sermon
R6: Ohio State, ILB, Baron Browning
R6: Ohio State, OLB, Jonathan Cooper
R7: Ohio State, TE, Luke Farrell



That will be better than a lot of team's drafts. :grin:

[Dwinsgames]

Fanspeak

R1 P24 CB Greg Newsome II - Northwestern
R2 P23 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
R3 P23 EDGE Ronnie Perkins - Oklahoma
R4 P23 RB Rhamondre Stevenson - Oklahoma
R4 P35 S Shawn Davis - Florida
R6 P32 OT Dan Moore Jr. - Texas AM
R7 P17 OT Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin

[Dwinsgames]

R1 P24 C Landon Dickerson - Alabama
R2 P23 LB Jamin Davis - Kentucky
R3 P23 S Jevon Holland - Oregon
R4 P23 EDGE Osa Odighizuwa - UCLA
R4 P35 RB Kylin Hill - Mississippi State ---- most under rated back in the draft that gives you a dual threat
R6 P32 OT Dan Moore Jr. - Texas A&M
R7 P17 TE John Bates - Boise State --- at this point in the draft this kid is a complete steal he has a chance to be a very good nfl TE ( shoes will love him )

[tube517]

Based on Colbert’s affinity for Ohio State, and the Steelers brass’s conversations with multiple Buckeyes, here is a new mock draft.

R1: Ohio State, OG, Wyatt Davis
R2: Ohio State, OC, Josh Myers
R3: Ohio State, DT, Tommy Togiai
R4: Ohio State, CB, Shaun Wade
R4: Ohio State, RB, Trey Sermon
R6: Ohio State, ILB, Baron Browning
R6: Ohio State, OLB, Jonathan Cooper
R7: Ohio State, TE, Luke Farrell

Now do an all MAC!

[teegre]

Now do an all MAC!

R1: trade: Maxx Crosby, OLB (Raidahs/E. Michigan)
R2: trade: Darius Phillips, CB (Bengals/W. Michigan)
R3: D’Wayne Eskridge, WR, W. Michigan
R4: Tommy Doyle, OT, Miami (OH)
R4: Jaret Patterson, RB, Buffalo
R6: Malcolm Koonce, OLB, Buffalo
R6: Kayode Awosika, OT, Buffalo
R7: Quintin Morris, TE, Bowling Green

[hawaiiansteeler]

R1: trade: Maxx Crosby, OLB (Raidahs/E. Michigan)
R2: trade: Darius Phillips, CB (Bengals/W. Michigan)
R3: D’Wayne Eskridge, WR, W. Michigan
R4: Tommy Doyle, OT, Miami (OH)
R4: Jaret Patterson, RB, Buffalo
R6: Malcolm Koonce, OLB, Buffalo
R6: Kayode Awosika, OT, Buffalo
R7: Quintin Morris, TE, Bowling Green

:clap2::thumbsup:

[Born2Steel]

24. Liam Eichenberg OT ND - Just too good of a prospect at a position of need to pass over.
55. Creed Humphrey OC Oklahoma - If Humphrey or Dickerson are there at 55 that should be the pick.
87. Kenneth Gainwell RB Memphis - Perfect 'gimmick' weapon for the new OC.
128. Tre McKitty TE Georgia - Position of need with a player that can be productive as a blocker and as a pass catcher.
140. Patrick Johnson OLB Tulane - Quality depth OLB and core ST player.
216. Marco Wilson CB Florida - Slot CB that blitzes well, tackles better, strong enough to cover SWRsTEs and RBs, and ST player.
245. Tuf Borland LB OSU - Experienced, quality backup and core ST player.
254. Josh Palmer WR Tennessee - Size and speed WR that provides quality depth and core ST player.

[teegre]

On the NFL Network, they spotlighted the Steelers. Curtis Conway predicted who the Steelers would draft. I could not really hear his analysis, because I was cooking dinner, but here are the picks.

R1: Najee Harris, RB, 'Bama
R2: Aaron Banks, OG, Notre Dame
R3: Kellen Mond, QB, Texas A&M

1. Duh

2. I did see that they put Banks at LG. Banks is great, but Dotson will start at LG. I'm not sure why they would not have drafted an OC or a LT, because LG is actually a strong-suit for us.

3. Mond would be a great pick. That said, as I have stated elsewhere, I see him going 40ish. Some team that passed on a QB in R1 (e.g. Bears) will take Mond in R2.

[Texasteel]

On the NFL Network, they spotlighted the Steelers. Curtis Conway predicted who the Steelers would draft. I could not really hear his analysis, because I was cooking dinner, but here are the picks.

R1: Najee Harris, RB, 'Bama
R2: Aaron Banks, OG, Notre Dame
R3: Kellen Mond, QB, Texas A&M

1. Duh

2. I did see that they put Banks at LG. Banks is great, but Dotson will start at LG. I'm not sure why they would not have drafted an OC or a LT, because LG is actually a strong-suit for us.

3. Mond would be a great pick. That said, as I have stated elsewhere, I see him going 40ish. Some team that passed on a QB in R1 (e.g. Bears) will take Mond in R2.

I can see the Harris pick actually happening
I like Banks but I have 2 or 3 OGs rated ahead of him that should be there when we pick in the 2nd. Plus like you said, its not a great need.

[teegre]

Here is an interesting one:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/seven-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-broncos-move-up-to-take-justin-fields-as-fifth-qb-in-top-10/

R1: Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma St.
R2: Quinn Meinerz, OC, Whitewater
R3: Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio St.

1. We all agree about his nastiness. :lol: It hasn’t been mentioned before, but at his pro day, the Steelers (and Jets) were extremely focused on him.

2. This is interesting... because, Creed Humphrey goes one pick AFTER this selection. (Let the chaos begin!!!) What should be noted is that our OL coach attended Whitewater’s pro day, but did not attend Oklahoma’s pro day (although, his assistant did attend).

3. This is logical based on the past (Buckeyes becoming Steelers) and visits during pro days (he talked to the trifecta).

[teegre]

I can see the Harris pick actually happening
I like Banks but I have 2 or 3 OGs rated ahead of him that should be there when we pick in the 2nd. Plus like you said, its not a great need.

Yep :nod:

Since the segment was focused solely on those three picks, I’m not sure who had already gone by 55 and/or who was still available. But, as we both can see: OT or OC is a much bigger need (and value?) than taking another LG.

If he hadn’t shown the depth chart with Banks at LG (replacing Dotson), I would have assumed that maybe Conway was thinking Dotson or Banks would switch to OC. But, that was not the case. Odd.

[Born2Steel]

I think it is safe to mock a RB, OT, and OC in the 1st 3 rounds. Names and order may change but that really seems to be the overall feel at this time. However, I do think if THAT RB is not there, the position may not get drafted at all. There will be plenty of veterans lying around the dump heap in FA after the draft.

I can definitely see a LG getting drafted. Dotson played his college career at RG and DeCastro doesn't need replaced yet. Dotson was a very good pick and looks to fit at LG, but he was really good at RG. I could even see a scenario where a OC gets drafted, then later a OG/OC gets drafted for the depth at 2 positions.

[86WARD]

I’m totally good with OT/OC/RB in any order over the first three rounds. I’d be very happy with that position wise...

[teegre]

I think it is safe to mock a RB, OT, and OC in the 1st 3 rounds. Names and order may change but that really seems to be the overall feel at this time. However, I do think if THAT RB is not there, the position may not get drafted at all. There will be plenty of veterans lying around the dump heap in FA after the draft.

I can definitely see a LG getting drafted. Dotson played his college career at RG and DeCastro doesn't need replaced yet. Dotson was a very good pick and looks to fit at LG, but he was really good at RG. I could even see a scenario where a OC gets drafted, then later a OG/OC gets drafted for the depth at 2 positions.

In most of my own mocks, I double down on the IOL (one very early and a swing man/developmental guy to eventually replace DeCastro). But, IMO, drafting the eventual replacement for DeCastro BEFORE finding the upgrade over Finney is a huge mistake.

Thet said, if Vera-Tucker is there at 24, I play him at LT... and eventually shift him to LG (and Dotson to RG) once DeCastro retires.

[Born2Steel]

In most of my own mocks, I double down on the IOL (one very early and a swing man/developmental guy to eventually replace DeCastro). But, IMO, drafting the eventual replacement for DeCastro BEFORE finding the upgrade over Finney is a huge mistake.

Thet said, if Vera-Tucker is there at 24, I play him at LT... and eventually shift him to LG (and Dotson to RG) once DeCastro retires.

I want upgrades across the line. Not gonna happen in one draft but....

I'm not that nervous with Finney at OC, honestly. Yes! I want to draft an OC early in this draft to upgrade. But I remember Finney fondly with his play here. I'm glad he is back.

I only meant if we get to round 6 and one of those ND OGs is still on the board, take him. If he also can backup at OC, bonus. I don't even need to know the names really. Some schools just punch out quality OL and ND is one of those.

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Speaking of current OL and upgrades, do we think Banner is the new LT?

[teegre]

I want upgrades across the line. Not gonna happen in one draft but....

I'm not that nervous with Finney at OC, honestly. Yes! I want to draft an OC early in this draft to upgrade. But I remember Finney fondly with his play here. I'm glad he is back.

I only meant if we get to round 6 and one of those ND OGs is still on the board, take him. If he also can backup at OC, bonus. I don't even need to know the names really. Some schools just punch out quality OL and ND is one of those.

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Speaking of current OL and upgrades, do we think Banner is the new LT?

I'd be fine with a swing IOL taken as early as R4.

You know who has played all five O-line positions... Landon Dickerson. :wink02:

Banner has "hinted" several times that he is moving to LT. Of course, he is not a coach... but, he was saying this even before he re-signed. If the Steelers do not go LT early, because they are going to roll with Banner & Okorafor, I'd still like an OT drafted (R3 - R4) to compete with those two starters. Plus, Okorafor is a free agent after the season; so, we might "need" an OT sooner than later.

[Texasteel]

If we don't snag a OC this year y'all going to get sick of hearing the name Tyler Linderbaum next year.

[Born2Steel]

I see a draft with 8 picks, 3 in the top100 and 5 in the top150. I think it will be BPA/Position of Need with 5picks in the 1st 4 rounds, and the last 3 picks being the core ST guys that can hopefully grow into quality backups.

[BlackAndGold]

If we don't snag a OC this year y'all going to get sick of hearing the name Tyler Linderbaum next year.

Yep, though I expect they'll select a center in the first three rounds, Linderbaum is the next "blue chip" center and would also be my top target next year. (2022 QB class looking "meh")

[Dreegking]

[/LIST]

Dag! I think that I would consider touching myself inappropriately if we landed this draft. That's an A+++ draft!

It would be amazing. Agreed. I'd even consider touching you if that draft happened -- And i am very straight.

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He is also the better RB.

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I have a weird feeling they are moving up in round 2 or 3 this year.

[hawaiiansteeler]

It would be amazing. Agreed. I'd even consider touching you if that draft happened -- And i am very straight.


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[Born2Steel]

24. Najee Harris RB Bama
55. Creed Humphrey OC Oklahoma
87. Pete Werner ILB OSU
128. Tommy Kraemer OG ND
140. DJ Daniel CB Georgia
216. Jaylon Moore OT W.Mich
245. Tre Norwood Safety/NB Oklahoma
254. Ben Mason FB Michigan

[RunNGun]

24. Najee Harris RB, Alabama
55. Baron Browning ILB, Ohio State
87. Quinn Meinerz IOL, Wisc-Whitewater
128. Spencer Brown T, Northern Iowa
140. Kenny Yeboah TE, Ole Miss

Probably not my final mock, so I'll just do my first 5 picks at this point.

I really hope Spencer Brown will be a Steeler. He grew up a half hour from me in Lenox, IA. Not too many Iowa boys in the league, which brings up a story I like to tell people. In my high school days, my first varsity game I pitched was against none other than Brandon Scherff of Denison, Iowa. He made his presence known taking me yard for what seemed like a 500 ft bomb on the 1st pitch I threw to him.

[86WARD]

24. Najee Harris RB Bama
55. Creed Humphrey OC Oklahoma
87. Pete Werner ILB OSU
128. Tommy Kraemer OG ND
140. DJ Daniel CB Georgia
216. Jaylon Moore OT W.Mich
245. Tre Norwood Safety/NB Oklahoma
254. Ben Mason FB Michigan

I’d be happy with that...

[86WARD]

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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

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I like this, but Robert Hainsey is a Guard, that took some snaps at Center in the Senior Bowl. He isnt an OT. I would prefer a D lineman in later rounds, but some good football players with the first 5 selections.

[RunNGun]

I could get on board with Dave Bryan's mock...
1. Harris
2. Freiermuth
3. Browning
4. Meinerz

Imo, if Browning is their guy they have to get him in the 2nd. Still I would love this draft.

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/04/bryan-2021-steelers-mock-draft-version-1-0-post-pro-days/

[Born2Steel]

I could get on board with Dave Bryan's mock...
1. Harris
2. Freiermuth
3. Browning
4. Meinerz

Imo, if Browning is their guy they have to get him in the 2nd. Still I would love this draft.

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/04/bryan-2021-steelers-mock-draft-version-1-0-post-pro-days/

Browning might not make it past the Saints at 28.

[SteelMember]

Najee Harris - RB Alabama
Eric Stokes - CB Georgia
Jackson Carman - OT Clemson
Bobby Brown - DT Texas A&M
Michael Menet - OC Penn State
Cornell Powell - WR Clemson
K.J. Britt - LB Auburn
John Bates - TE Boise State

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Najee Harris - RB Alabama
Eric Stokes - CB Georgia
Jackson Carman - OT Clemson
Bobby Brown - DT Texas A&M
Michael Menet - OC Penn State
Cornell Powell - WR Clemson
K.J. Britt - LB Auburn
John Bates - TE Boise State

This would be a really good draft IMO.

Day 1 starting RB. A 320 lb DT in the middle with quickness. A CB with length, size and speed that needs a year behind Joe Haden, or could challenge Pierre and Layne for the start outside.

Jackson Carman may not be a LT in the NFL, but he can play RT and Guard. Solid depth pick with planning to future. Menet is a guy that could be the starting Center in 2022. KJ Britt is a 2 down run stuffer...personally I prefer Amen Ogbongbemiga from Ok State, who is more athletic in the 6th.

Bates is a great blocker, who is underappreciated as a pass catcher. My late round draft crush, so the Steelers will not drat him.

[86WARD]

I could get on board with Dave Bryan's mock...
1. Harris
2. Freiermuth
3. Browning
4. Meinerz

Imo, if Browning is their guy they have to get him in the 2nd. Still I would love this draft.

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/04/bryan-2021-steelers-mock-draft-version-1-0-post-pro-days/

I’d take that right now, draft unseen. Take it, walk away and call it a draft. Just those first four picks and that’s it. No way those players fall like that...

[RunNGun]

I’d take that right now, draft unseen. Take it, walk away and call it a draft. Just those first four picks and that’s it. No way those players fall like that...

Agreed. Too good to be true.

[Mojouw]

Round 1 - Prospect that everyone will be certain would have been there at least 2 rounds later.
Round 2 - The wrong OL prospect according to "my personal board".
Round 3 - A QB that no one likes.
Round 4 - Annual WR pick that we all just trust to work out.
Round 4 - LB prospect that no one has heard of.
Round 6 - Punter
Round 7 - Annual late round flier at the TE position
Round 7 - Some small school pass rusher that has zero NFL measurables.

[Born2Steel]

Round 1 - Prospect that everyone will be certain would have been there at least 2 rounds later.
Round 2 - The wrong OL prospect according to "my personal board".
Round 3 - A QB that no one likes.
Round 4 - Annual WR pick that we all just trust to work out.
Round 4 - LB prospect that no one has heard of.
Round 6 - Punter
Round 7 - Annual late round flier at the TE position
Round 7 - Some small school pass rusher that has zero NFL measurables.

Rough day today?

[Mojouw]

Rough day today?

Not really. Just in my weird head it made me laugh. Thought I’d share.

I know so little this year that I likely couldn’t cobble together a real effort even if I shamelessly stole most of it.

I do greatly appreciate and enjoy everyone’s contributions and efforts.

[RunNGun]

Round 1 - Prospect that everyone will be certain would have been there at least 2 rounds later.
Round 2 - The wrong OL prospect according to "my personal board".
Round 3 - A QB that no one likes.
Round 4 - Annual WR pick that we all just trust to work out.
Round 4 - LB prospect that no one has heard of.
Round 6 - Punter
Round 7 - Annual late round flier at the TE position
Round 7 - Some small school pass rusher that has zero NFL measurables.

Sounds about right. I don't recall liking a draft since 2008 with Mendenhall, Sweed, and Dennis Dixon and that draft was terrible. It usually takes me a couple weeks to warm up to it.

[Mojouw]

Sounds about right. I don't recall liking a draft since 2008 with Mendenhall, Sweed, and Dennis Dixon and that draft was terrible. It usually takes me a couple weeks to warm up to it.

Same! I LOVED the 08 draft. Shows what I know!

[teegre]

I found this mock interesting, because it has the Steelers trading back to 32. I had made this suggestion a while ago (although, I do not think that this guy's trade-value chart is quite accurate... I had a different compensation). Regardless, the idea is interesting... and the players all make sense.

https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/2021/04/13/steelers-mock-draft-chris-carter-3.0-javonte-williams-pete-werner-quinn-meinerz-trade-back-bulk-up-trenches-nfl-kevin-colbert-cdc

R1 (32): Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina
R2 (55): Pete Werner, ILB, Ohio St.
R2 (64): Quinn Meinerz, OC, Whitewater
R3 (87): Walker Little, OT, Stanford
R4 (128): Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio St.
R4 (140): Hamilcar Rashed, Oregon St.
R6 (216): Cornell Powell, WR, Clemson
R7 (245): Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Florida
R7 (254): Jason Pinnock, CB, Pitt

[BlackAndGold]

Most of us always think they should trade back to pick up a extra pick or two. This is the draft to do it Imo, a lot of needs.

The mock above is a good example, though the picks could be better.

[teegre]

Most of us always think they should trade back to pick up a extra pick or two. This is the draft to do it Imo, a lot of needs.

The mock above is a good example, though the picks could be better.

1) I’ve always been a proponent of acquiring as many R2 picks as possible; it’s the sweet spot for getting talent. You can generally hit on every other R2 pick; so, if you have four in one draft, you’re almost assured on getting two good players... without feeling like you drafted a “bust” (like you would if you miss on a R1 pick). Jimmy Johnson built his dynasty on that philosophy.

1-a) The Steelers have only traded back twice (1992, 2001), and both times it was only a few spots back. Ergo, I don’t see a major trade back occurring. Maybe someone who wants to get in front of the Browns...???

2) Using Jimmy Johnson’s draft-value chart, I see it as the Steelers and Bucs swapping R1 picks AND also swapping R3 picks, plus the Steelers acquiring that R2 pick outright. It’s about the same, but in his version, we come out a little bit ahead.

3) I love the Williams and Meinerz picks. Little and Wade have been discussed here a bit, and Powell seems like the kind of pick we’d make (visit a school to look at the “blue chip” prospect, but draft a different player from the same school a few rounds later). The Werner pick seemed odd, especially since the author stated he “almost” mocked Baron Browning there instead (yea, I’d say that Browning makes more sense).

QUESTION:
With the trade back, who would you mock at these new spots?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Most of us always think they should trade back to pick up a extra pick or two. This is the draft to do it Imo, a lot of needs.

The mock above is a good example, though the picks could be better.

While I agree with you, any Steelers message board I have been on since the 90's always has a lot of ..."they should trade up and get (insert player name) in this draft!" being posted.

I think they have a lot of needs and would listen to any potential trade back offers, but I think if there is a player that you really like when you pick, just select him. And I think there could be a bunch of guys on the board at #24, who will have that appeal. So I will not be surprised if the Steelers stay at #24 with their pick.

One interesting mock I saw Cameron McGrone, ILB Michigan, mocked to the Steelers in the 3rd round. I never realized that he was coming out, after his RS Sophomore season, but he is a sideline to sideline ILB that was to be the next guy up after Devin Bush left in the draft.

[teegre]

While I agree with you, any Steelers message board I have been on since the 90's always has a lot of ..."they should trade up and get (insert player name) in this draft!" being posted.

I think they have a lot of needs and would listen to any potential trade back offers, but I think if there is a player that you really like when you pick, just select him. And I think there could be a bunch of guys on the board at #24, who will have that appeal. So I will not be surprised if the Steelers stay at #24 with their pick.

One interesting mock I saw Cameron McGrone, ILB Michigan, mocked to the Steelers in the 3rd round. I never realized that he was coming out, after his RS Sophomore season, but he is a sideline to sideline ILB that was to be the next guy up after Devin Bush left in the draft.

1) I think some "top ten" player will slide to 24. I can feel it.

2) Somewhere I posted that the Steelers had met with 9 ILBs. McGrone was one of them. Seeing as you are a Michigan fan, I believe that I had asked for your input about him. Obviously that thread is buried... who knows where that post is. :toofunny: Anyway, thank you for the analysis.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

1) I think some "top ten" player will slide to 24. I can feel it.

2) Somewhere I posted that the Steelers had met with 9 ILBs. McGrone was one of them. Seeing as you are a Michigan fan, I believe that I had asked for your input about him. Obviously that thread is buried... who knows where that post is. :toofunny: Anyway, thank you for the analysis.

My apologies, I didn't see that post. McGrone is a guy with a nose for the football in the run game. Taller than Bush, but only played his freshman and last year as a soph, so IMO still has some development to do in pass coverage and getting off blocks. But he has glimpses of Bush or Sean Spence in the way he recognizes plays and takes some great pursuit angles to the ball and makes the play.

I think he is a guy with big upside that would benefit from some more coaching on block protection and pass coverage. He could have stayed in school another year and come out as a Junior with a higher selection.

Look at the below video around the 1:10 mark he has a great series with goaline stop vs Wisconsin, tackle vs Notre Dame and quick read and close on Najee Harris from Alabama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMzkqU4hrSg

[teegre]

This is an interesting one. It has lots of players whom we have discussed. I would take it in a heartbeat... because, some of the picks are absolute steals.

https://www.steelcityunderground.com/2021/04/16/joe-kuzmas-2021-7-round-steelers-mock-draft-1-0/

R1: Teven Jenkins, LT
R2: Najee Harris, RB
R3: Creed Humphrey, OC
R4: Cameron McGrone, ILB
R4: Patrick Jones II, OLB
R6: Tre McKitty, TE
R7: Jaylon Moore, RT
R7: Avery Williams, CB

If you switch out the steals (Harris, Humphrey) for more realistic picks (Williams RB, Meinerz OC), it is still a very good draft.

[86WARD]

This is an interesting one. It has lots of players whom we have discussed. I would take it in a heartbeat... because, some of the picks are absolute steals.

https://www.steelcityunderground.com/2021/04/16/joe-kuzmas-2021-7-round-steelers-mock-draft-1-0/

R1: Teven Jenkins, LT
R2: Najee Harris, RB
R3: Creed Humphrey, OC
R4: Cameron McGrone, ILB
R4: Patrick Jones II, OLB
R6: Tre McKitty, TE
R7: Jaylon Moore, RT
R7: Avery Williams, CB

If you switch out the steals (Harris, Humphrey) for more realistic picks (Williams RB, Meinerz OC), it is still a very good draft.

Again. Take that draft class and call it a day. Don’t care what else was available. Don’t care who anyone else takes. I take that draft and run. I think McKitty is a steal in Round 6 as well.

[Shoes]

24: R1 P24 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
55: R2 P23 RB Travis Etienne - Clemson
87: R3 P23 C Josh Myers - Ohio State
128: R4 P23 DL Marlon Tuipulotu - USC
140: R4 P35 LB Charles Snowden - UVA
216: R6 P32 WR Rico Bussey Jr. - North Texas
245: R7 P17 LB Tony Fields II - West Virginia
254: R7 P26 TE John Bates - Boise State


Yep, that's right I took two TE's. :chuckle:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

This is an interesting one. It has lots of players whom we have discussed. I would take it in a heartbeat... because, some of the picks are absolute steals.

https://www.steelcityunderground.com/2021/04/16/joe-kuzmas-2021-7-round-steelers-mock-draft-1-0/

R1: Teven Jenkins, LT
R2: Najee Harris, RB
R3: Creed Humphrey, OC
R4: Cameron McGrone, ILB
R4: Patrick Jones II, OLB
R6: Tre McKitty, TE
R7: Jaylon Moore, RT
R7: Avery Williams, CB

If you switch out the steals (Harris, Humphrey) for more realistic picks (Williams RB, Meinerz OC), it is still a very good draft.

Yeah, that draft is a lot of wishful thinking. As you point out, I dont think we see Najee Harris and Creed Humphrey getting to the 2nd and 3rd....nor do I think Patrick Jones is available at the end of the 4th. There seems to be a lot of sentiment that Humphrey is sliding to the 2nd round. I still think he is the best C prospect there.

Jenkins is basically going to slide in to a RT spot for years and be solid like Brian Bulaga or Jack Conklin.

[Born2Steel]

24: R1 P24 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
55: R2 P23 RB Travis Etienne - Clemson
87: R3 P23 C Josh Myers - Ohio State
128: R4 P23 DL Marlon Tuipulotu - USC
140: R4 P35 LB Charles Snowden - UVA
216: R6 P32 WR Rico Bussey Jr. - North Texas
245: R7 P17 LB Tony Fields II - West Virginia
254: R7 P26 TE John Bates - Boise State


Yep, that's right I took two TE's. :chuckle:

And 2 Tomlin trends with Snowden and Fields

[Shoes]

And 2 Tomlin trends with Snowden and Fields

I knew you or Teegre would catch that. :lol:

[Born2Steel]

24. Najee Harris RB Bama - Almost seems a done deal already.
55. Asante Samuel Jr CB FSU - A very Tomlin/Colbert player.
87. Hunter Long TE BC - I don't know if this is the right name but the perfect spot to take a TE this draft.
128. Trey Hill OG/C Georgia - One of the OC prospects I expect will fall to the 4th round and a guy I have liked from first tape.
140. Patrick Johnson OLB Tulane - High floor/High ceiling prospect that already has good pass rush and decent run stop ability.
216. Austin Watkins WR UAB - Size/Speed physical WR that gets downfield quickly plus NFL bloodlines. (cousin Sammy)
245. Tre Norwood Safety Oklahoma - Box safety/NB depth with excellent size.
254. Ben Mason FB/TE Michigan - Mainly a ST player early but replacement depth if Watt continues to be invisible.

[hawaiiansteeler]

24. Najee Harris RB Bama - Almost seems a done deal already.
55. Asante Samuel Jr CB FSU - A very Tomlin/Colbert player.
87. Hunter Long TE BC - I don't know if this is the right name but the perfect spot to take a TE this draft.
128. Trey Hill OG/C Georgia - One of the OC prospects I expect will fall to the 4th round and a guy I have liked from first tape.
140. Patrick Johnson OLB Tulane - High floor/High ceiling prospect that already has good pass rush and decent run stop ability.
216. Austin Watkins WR UAB - Size/Speed physical WR that gets downfield quickly plus NFL bloodlines. (cousin Sammy)
245. Tre Norwood Safety Oklahoma - Box safety/NB depth with excellent size.
254. Ben Mason FB/TE Michigan - Mainly a ST player early but replacement depth if Watt continues to be invisible.

love this draft, but you're missing an OT.

[Born2Steel]

love this draft, but you're missing an OT.

Trade back out of the 1st and get 2 more picks and I can fix that. I didn't get an ILB either. Would have used my 2nd pick but Samuel dropped to me and I took the value.

[Texasteel]

This is an interesting one. It has lots of players whom we have discussed. I would take it in a heartbeat... because, some of the picks are absolute steals.

https://www.steelcityunderground.com/2021/04/16/joe-kuzmas-2021-7-round-steelers-mock-draft-1-0/

R1: Teven Jenkins, LT
R2: Najee Harris, RB
R3: Creed Humphrey, OC
R4: Cameron McGrone, ILB
R4: Patrick Jones II, OLB
R6: Tre McKitty, TE
R7: Jaylon Moore, RT
R7: Avery Williams, CB

If you switch out the steals (Harris, Humphrey) for more realistic picks (Williams RB, Meinerz OC), it is still a very good draft.

A very good draft... The only name missing is Justine Fields in the 1st. The only rounds I see as possible is 1st and 7th. McKitty in the 6th is possible but not likely. By the way Jaylon Moore seems to me moving up a little.

Just my opinion, but I'm senile.

[teegre]

Yeah, that draft is a lot of wishful thinking. As you point out, I dont think we see Najee Harris and Creed Humphrey getting to the 2nd and 3rd....nor do I think Patrick Jones is available at the end of the 4th. There seems to be a lot of sentiment that Humphrey is sliding to the 2nd round. I still think he is the best C prospect there.

Jenkins is basically going to slide in to a RT spot for years and be solid like Brian Bulaga or Jack Conklin.

Which makes Jenkins in R1 an interesting pick. Why spend a premier pick on a RT?... when you can get a RT in R2 (or even R3) AND when you already have Banner & Okorafor (both of whom could play RT).

Even though everything that I have read says that he would be a 10-year RT (which is what you are saying, as well), if they pick him at 24, would it not behoove the Steelers to play him at LT?

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A very good draft... The only name missing is Justine Fields in the 1st. The only rounds I see as possible is 1st and 7th. McKitty in the 6th is possible but not likely. By the way Jaylon Moore seems to me moving up a little.

Just my opinion, but I'm senile.

Steals aplenty, steals galore!!!

[Texasteel]

Just watch an interview of Alim McNeill. Damn I want that young man on the Steelers, but can't figure a way to get him.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Which makes Jenkins in R1 an interesting pick. Why spend a premier pick on a RT?... when you can get a RT in R2 (or even R3) AND when you already have Banner & Okorafor (both of whom could play RT).

Even though everything that I have read says that he would be a 10-year RT (which is what you are saying, as well), if they pick him at 24, would it not behoove the Steelers to play him at LT?

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Steals aplenty, steals galore!!!

Sometimes I think the player is so good at what he does, that you take the best player at that position and consider the slot filled for the next 5 years or more. Maybe the thought is that Jenkins can play RT and then the Steelers feel good about Okorafor getting an extension to play LT. Or they think he could push inside to RG and replace DeCastro in a couple years?

Some guys like Brian Bulaga, Gosder Cherilus, Anthony Davis, Gabe Carimi all went in the 1st round, with belief that they would be RT or maybe move to guard. I think Jenkins is in that similar situation.

[Born2Steel]

Which makes Jenkins in R1 an interesting pick. Why spend a premier pick on a RT?... when you can get a RT in R2 (or even R3) AND when you already have Banner & Okorafor (both of whom could play RT).

Even though everything that I have read says that he would be a 10-year RT (which is what you are saying, as well), if they pick him at 24, would it not behoove the Steelers to play him at LT?

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Steals aplenty, steals galore!!!

My thought is a RT is a first round value if the player is your highest rated at that pick. Especially when he's as good at it as Jenkins apparently is. How that board falls is a huge factor in 1st round BPA by my philosophy. I have mocked several OTs in round 1 just to test how the board falls after that.

[teegre]

Sometimes I think the player is so good at what he does, that you take the best player at that position and consider the slot filled for the next 5 years or more. Maybe the thought is that Jenkins can play RT and then the Steelers feel good about Okorafor getting an extension to play LT. Or they think he could push inside to RG and replace DeCastro in a couple years?

Some guys like Brian Bulaga, Gosder Cherilus, Anthony Davis, Gabe Carimi all went in the 1st round, with belief that they would be RT or maybe move to guard. I think Jenkins is in that similar situation.

Makes sense... especially since Banner says he's the starter at LT. :wink02:

That said, clarification needed: I'm wondering why Jenkins cannot play LT. Short arms? Not agile enough?
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My thought is a RT is a first round value if the player is your highest rated at that pick. Especially when he's as good at it as Jenkins apparently is. How that board falls is a huge factor in 1st round BPA by my philosophy. I have mocked several OTs in round 1 just to test how the board falls after that.

I guess it comes down to taking the fourth best LT versus the highest-rated RT.

[pczach]

Makes sense... especially since Banner says he's the starter at LT. :wink02:

That said, clarification needed: I'm wondering why Jenkins cannot play LT. Short arms? Not agile enough?
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I guess it comes down to taking the fourth best LT versus the highest-rated RT.



Most believe his athleticism is his biggest obstacle to being a LT. Most think he's a little slow footed to go up against premier EDGE rushers. In his current offense he does a lot of short sets, so he doesn't have to cover the ground that a LT would do with deep drops that you see more often in most NFL offenses. His feet don't have to be elite at the college level, but they will when he gets to the NFL. I still think he will get better with more coaching, but there are concerns about his ceiling being limited by his athleticism, balance, and foot quickness.

He is a man-mover. He plays with the attitude you want and he is brutally physical and a guy that finishes his blocks. If he's only a RT, then he's a right tackle.....but you can run the ball to his side all day and wear people out. There is definite value to a player that gives your OT an attitude and sets the tone of physicality for his position group.

I really like him.

[teegre]

@Born2Steel
@pczach

Thank you

I know that it was reported from Jenkins’ pro day that the Steelers (and Jets) were HIGHLY-interested in Jenkins. That said, it doesn’t show that Tomlin & Colbert were there (which is a huge indicator of whom they will draft in R1).

[Texasteel]

Just playing with the PFF simulator. Traded down a couple of time in the 4th, got a 5th and the Jets 3rd next year.

24-- Najee Harris,, HB,, Alabama
55-- Creed Humphrey,, OC,, Oklahoma
87-- Kelvin Joseph,, CB,, Kentucky
128- Tommy Tremble,, TE,, Notre Dame
186- Jaylon Moore,, OT,, Western Michigan
216- Christian Uphoff,, S,, Illinois State
231- Chauncey Golston,, Edge/OLB,, Iowa
245- Tristen Hoge,, OG,, BYU
254- Tommy Doyle,, OT,, Miami OH

[ThorndikeFFA]

24: R1 P24 OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
55: R2 P23 TE Pat Freiermuth - Penn State
87: R3 P23 RB Javonte Williams - North Carolina
128: R4 P23 LB Pete Werner - Ohio State
140: R4 P35 WR Anthony Schwartz - Auburn
216: R6 P32 CB Keith Taylor - Washington
245: R7 P17 C Drew Dalman - Stanford
254: R7 P26 DL Kyree Campbell - Florida

[Born2Steel]

Steelers should be able to get their OT, OC, RB, and QB for the immediate future in this draft. Add in TE to round out their first 5 picks.

What if...
24. Kellen Mond
55. Landon Dickerson
87. Stone Forsythe
128. Tommy Tremble
140. Khalil Herbert
???

[teegre]

216: R6 P32 CB Keith Taylor - Washington


WINNER!!! :willy:

Really. He is my "steal of the draft".

[pczach]

WINNER!!! :willy:

Really. He is my "steal of the draft".



Washington has been pumping out premium secondary players.

[ThorndikeFFA]

Draft order with trade values from SteelerWire:

2021 NFL draft: Full draft order and trade value chart (usatoday.com) (https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/19/steelers-2021-nfl-draft-trade-chart-value/?fbclid=IwAR26gNcbTybOBQ_0g7hUeOIaBQL7BuKuls2tct5r 0fZ7ovZo1UD2-ODz0lo)

[Born2Steel]

24. Alex Leatherwood LT Bama
55. Baron Browning OLB/ILB OSU
87. Jamie Newman QB Wake Forest
128. Drew Dalman OC Stanford
140. Khalil Herbert RB VaTech
216. Luke Farrell TE OSU
245. Olaijah Griffin CB USC
254. Austin Watkins WR UAB

[Mojouw]

24. Alex Leatherwood LT Bama
55. Baron Browning OLB/ILB OSU
87. Jamie Newman QB Wake Forest
128. Drew Dalman OC Stanford
140. Khalil Herbert RB VaTech
216. Luke Farrell TE OSU
245. Olaijah Griffin CB USC
254. Austin Watkins WR UAB

I strongly believe that if the Steelers draft a TE it will be Farrell.

[Born2Steel]

I strongly believe that if the Steelers draft a TE it will be Farrell.

My current favorite is Tremble. I really like Eubanks and Farrell too though. I keep reading that Long is going to be'Heath-like', and I can't help but think that's a comparison that's going to end in disappointment. Kind of like the Freiermuth is 'Baby Gronk' comparison. Just not ready to buy into the hype yet.

[Mojouw]

My current favorite is Tremble. I really like Eubanks and Farrell too though. I keep reading that Long is going to be'Heath-like', and I can't help but think that's a comparison that's going to end in disappointment. Kind of like the Freiermuth is 'Baby Gronk' comparison. Just not ready to buy into the hype yet.

I think Friar the TE is more hype than real.

But the next time I’m right may well be the first...

[teegre]

Dane Brugler had an interesting mock.

R1: Harris, RB, ‘Bama
R2: Meinerz, OC, Whitewater
R3: Fosythe, OT, Florida
R4: Brown, CB, Oklahoma
R4: Rumph, OLB, Duke
...(here is the interesting one @Shoes)
R6: Max Duffy, P, Kentucky

[86WARD]

Dane Brugler had an interesting mock.

R1: Harris, RB, ‘Bama
R2: Meinerz, OC, Whitewater
R3: Fosythe, OT, Florida
R4: Brown, CB, Oklahoma
R4: Rumph, OLB, Duke
...(here is the interesting one @Shoes)
R6: Max Duffy, P, Kentucky

Meinerz?!? Impossible!! He’s DIII!! Lol.

[teegre]

Meinerz?!? Impossible!! He’s DIII!! Lol.

I cannot wait for this kid to become the next Larry Allen. :nod:

[buzz998]

ok, here is my late night, boredom, non-college football watching, i had nothing better to do than play with the pff draft thingy draft.... i never get to watch college so this was just a pull the trigger on what seemed interesting...lol

24 T - Tevin Jenkins
55 C - Creed Humphrey
87 LB - Jamin Davis
128 TE - Tommy Tremble
140 CB - Tre Brown
216 RB - Rhamondre Stevenson
245 WR - Marlon Williams
254 S - Darrick Forest

[teegre]

ok, here is my late night, boredom, non-college football watching, i had nothing better to do than play with the pff draft thingy draft.... i never get to watch college so this was just a pull the trigger on what seemed interesting...lol

24 T - Tevin Jenkins
55 C - Creed Humphrey
87 LB - Jamin Davis
128 TE - Tommy Tremble
140 CB - Tre Brown
216 RB - Rhamondre Stevenson
245 WR - Marlon Williams
254 S - Darrick Forest

Welcome!!! :nod:

Those picks make a lot of sense, and are players with whom the Steelers have met... except for Jamin Davis (he is looking like he will be drafted in R1). Replace him with (let's say) Cameron McGrone (ILB), and you would have yourself one helluva mock!!!

[pczach]

I love trying scenarios where the team moves back and acquires additional picks.....even though it never happens! :chuckle:


Fanspeak with trades:

42: R2 P10 C Landon Dickerson - Alabama
70: R3 P6 LB Jabril Cox - LSU
76: R3 P12 DL Alim McNeill - North Carolina State
84: R3 P20 CB Shaun Wade - Ohio State
111: R4 P6 RB Trey Sermon - Ohio State
116: R4 P11 WR Simi Fehoko - Stanford
128: R4 P23 EDGE Jordan Smith - Alabama-Birmingham
140: R4 P35 OT Alaric Jackson - Iowa
149: R5 P5 TE Kenny Yeboah - Ole Miss
167: R5 P23 S Richard LeCounte III - Georgia
190: R6 P6 OT Adrian Ealy - Oklahoma
216: R6 P32 TE Tony Poljan - Virginia

[buzz998]

thanks for the welcome. i am a firm believer in trading back in the draft. especially in a year like this. i don't know much about who is coming out of college but i have heard there is depth in several of the positions that the steelers need. so my theory is if the depth is there trade back if possible and acquire as many picks as possible in order to fill as many holes as possible or take multiple shots of certain holes that might be thin.

[st33lersguy]

24: R1 P24 OT Teven Jenkins - Oklahoma State
55: R2 P23 RB Javonte Williams - North Carolina
87: R3 P23 C Josh Myers - Ohio State
128: R4 P23 CB Thomas Graham Jr. - Oregon
140: R4 P35 EDGE Chris Rumph II - Duke
216: R6 P32 TE Nick Eubanks - Michigan
245: R7 P17 LB Riley Cole - South Alabama
254: R7 P26 RB Stevie Scott - Indiana

This would be an A+ first two days.

[teegre]

24: R1 P24 OT Teven Jenkins - Oklahoma State
55: R2 P23 RB Javonte Williams - North Carolina
87: R3 P23 C Josh Myers - Ohio State
128: R4 P23 CB Thomas Graham Jr. - Oregon
140: R4 P35 EDGE Chris Rumph II - Duke
216: R6 P32 TE Nick Eubanks - Michigan
245: R7 P17 LB Riley Cole - South Alabama
254: R7 P26 RB Stevie Scott - Indiana

This would be an A+ first two days.

Great first two days.

Question: Why not Creed Humphrey? He is your guy. Do you think he will be gone by 55?... or, do you think that Javonte is the better value (since you can get Myers in R3)?

Just curious about your rationale.

[BlackAndGold]

1. Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
2. Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama
3. Cameron McGrone, ILB, Michigan
4. James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati
4. Daelin Hayes, OLB, Notre Dame
6. Kenny Yeboah, TE, Ole Miss
7. Avery Williams, CB, Boise State
7. Pressley Harvin, P, Georgia Tech

[teegre]

1. Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
2. Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama
3. Cameron McGrone, ILB, Michigan
4. James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati
4. Daelin Hayes, OLB, Notre Dame
6. Kenny Yeboah, TE, Ole Miss
7. Avery Williams, CB, Boise State
7. Pressley Harvin, P, Georgia Tech

:director: WINNER!!!

:willy: :willy: :willy:

[st33lersguy]

Great first two days.

Question: Why not Creed Humphrey? He is your guy. Do you think he will be gone by 55?... or, do you think that Javonte is the better value (since you can get Myers in R3)?

Just curious about your rationale.

It was a mock sim and creed was gone at 55.

[teegre]

I like Reuter's mocks. He always seems tohave a "plan" for each team. For the Steelers, Reuter's "plan" is to draft guys that will help in the run game... and also, guys with whom we have met.

https://www.nfl.com/news/seven-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-round-1-broncos-bears-trade-up-for-qbs

R1: Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma
R2: Stone Forsythe, OT, Florida*
R3: Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis
R4: Daelin Hayes, OLB, Notre Dame
R4: Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma St.
R6: Jaylen Twyman, DT, Pitt
R7: Ty-tend Obligatory, TE, Who Cares University
R7: Scrub McFodder, S, BFE


*Forsythe has repeatedly been connected to the Steelers, even though I have never seen mention of a Zoom or the top brass ebing at his pro day

[hawaiiansteeler]

I like Reuter's mocks. He always seems tohave a "plan" for each team. For the Steelers, Reuter's "plan" is to draft guys that will help in the run game... and also, guys with whom we have met.

R7: Ty-tend Obligatory, TE, Who Cares University
R7: Scrub McFodder, S, BFE



the last two are real sleepers.

[teegre]

the last two are real sleepers.

They're no Tyroil Smoochie-Wallace... but, they will do.

[hawaiiansteeler]

They're no Tyroil Smoochie-Wallace... but, they will do.

true, but then who is? :noidea:

[BlackAndGold]

:director: WINNER!!!

:willy: :willy: :willy:

I've noted before, Dickerson worries me but I think the Steelers like him.

Was back and forth in round 3. ILB vs corner...tough decision.

- - - Updated - - -




*Forsythe has repeatedly been connected to the Steelers, even though I have never seen mention of a Zoom or the top brass ebing at his pro day

Well, the Steelers have had some good luck with Florida offensive lineman.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

true, but then who is? :noidea:

He went to Miami.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRhB2Oiy0Nc

[teegre]

I've noted before, Dickerson worries me but I think the Steelers like him.

As I just mentioned in another thread, my gut tells me that the Ravens will use one of their R1 picks on Landon Dickerson. They have a need for an OC and an affinity for 'Bama players. Plus, they enjoy breaking my heart.

This is 2002 all over again.

[Mojouw]

As I just mentioned in another thread, my gut tells me that the Ravens will use one of their R1 picks on Landon Dickerson. They have a need for an OC and an affinity for 'Bama players. Plus, they enjoy breaking my heart.

This is 2002 all over again.

There best path to offensive success is to have the most dominant guard to guard offensive line possible. They can get by with weaker tackles due to Jackson's escapability, but they need to just dominate the interior to make their offense go.

Summation (did I get it right?): Dickerson will be a Raven.

[teegre]

Summation (did I get it right?)

:applaudit: I am in tears.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

As I just mentioned in another thread, my gut tells me that the Ravens will use one of their R1 picks on Landon Dickerson. They have a need for an OC and an affinity for 'Bama players. Plus, they enjoy breaking my heart.

This is 2002 all over again.

I thought Matt Elam went in the 2013 Draft?
:wink02:

[Born2Steel]

Will we do a Steelers' mock draft contest this year? Should be incredibly difficult to predict. So many ways it could fall.

[teegre]

I thought Matt Elam went in the 2013 Draft?
:wink02:

Why you!!! (:toofunny: )

[teegre]

Here it is. The first mock to predict Landon Dickerson to be taken by the Ravens with one of their R1 picks. :doh:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/two-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-ravens-make-two-first-round-picks-after-orlando-brown-jr-trade/

I gotta say, that even though I would be heartbroken, getting BOTH Darrisaw and Humphrey would absolutely ease my pain. Sort of akin to not getting a bike for Christmas, but getting a skateboard AND a basketball hoop.

[st33lersguy]

24: R1 P24 C Creed Humphrey - Oklahoma
55: R2 P23 RB Javonte Williams - North Carolina
87: R3 P23 CB Eric Stokes - Georgia
128: R4 P23 TE Tommy Tremble - Notre Dame
140: R4 P35 OT Stone Forsythe - Florida
216: R6 P32 LB Ernest Jones - South Carolina
245: R7 P17 EDGE Carlo Kemp - Michigan
254: R7 P26 S Michael Carter II - Duke

I probably like this fanspeak sim better than the other one I posted recently. Steelers could literally probably draft 3 convenient store clerks in rounds 6-7 and still be an A+ with the first 4 rounds like this

[teegre]

24: R1 P24 C Creed Humphrey - Oklahoma
55: R2 P23 RB Javonte Williams - North Carolina
87: R3 P23 CB Eric Stokes - Georgia
128: R4 P23 TE Tommy Tremble - Notre Dame
140: R4 P35 OT Stone Forsythe - Florida
216: R6 P32 LB Ernest Jones - South Carolina
245: R7 P17 EDGE Carlo Kemp - Michigan
254: R7 P26 S Michael Carter II - Duke

I probably like this fanspeak sim better than the other one I posted recently. Steelers could literally probably draft 3 convenient store clerks in rounds 6-7 and still be an A+ with the first 4 rounds like this

I think the value here is what makes this mock so appealing. Stokes is rumored to be creeping up into the 25-40 range; so, getting him in R3 is good value.

Likewise, Fosythe is in a lot of mocks around 55-75 (although, up until last week, he was seen as an early Day 3 prospect). Regardless, it’s a quality pick.

Lastly, I agree. Your first five picks are good... versus having a really good first three picks in your previous mock. It’s essentially a trade off of losing Jenkins (who is gonna be stellar) whike gaining Stokes, Tremble, AND Fosythe (which is a great trade off).

[LLT]

Posted in another thread...but here ya go:

RD 1 Creed Humphrey OC Oklahoma
RD 2 Spencer Brown OT Northern Iowa
RD 3 Trey Sermon RB Ohio State
Rd 4a Ambry Thomas CB Michigan
RD 4b Daelin Hayes EDGE Notre Dame
RD 6 Briley Moore TE Kansas State
RD 7a Dez Fitzpatrick WR Louisville
RD7b Christian Uphoff S Illinois State

[buzz998]

i did this today with the idea of trading back. i did it twice. both times with the ravens of all teams...lol neither were forced.


Trade 27 and 31 of Bal for Pit 24

27 T Teven Jenkins
31 RB Najee Harris
55 C Creed Humphrey
87 LB Jamin Davis
131 G Kendrick Green

Trade 131 and 138 of Bal for Pit 128

136 T Robert Hainsey
140 CB Tre Brown
216 RB Rhamondre Stevenson
245 TE Tre McKitty
254 S Tariq Thompson

i actually had one before this that i thought might have been better. but i really have no clue honestly.

[teegre]

The Bills are looking to trade up (for ETN). Of course, he's a guy who the Steelers have been looking at. Then again, if Najee is the Steelers' guy, and if Najee is gone at 24, then maybe the Steelers trade down.

[BlackAndGold]

Final Mock.


1. Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
2. Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
3. Robert Hainsey, C, Notre Dame
4. James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati
4. Daelin Hayes, OLB, Notre Dame
6. Luke Farrell, TE, Ohio State
7. Avery Williams, CB, Boise State
7. Pressley Harvin iii, P, Georgia Tech


UDFA signings.
Justin Hilliad, ILB, Ohio State
Ben Skowronek, WR, Notre Dame
Eli Howard, DT, Texas Tech
Paris Ford, S, Pittsburgh
Forrest Merrill, NT, Arkansas State
William Bradley-King, OLB, Baylor
Brandon Kennedy, C, Tennessee

[teegre]

This one pretty much covers the players we have all discussed here. (Is this one of you???)

https://www.steelcityunderground.com/2021/04/27/zac-celedonias-4-round-steelers-mock-draft/

R1: Najee Harris, RB, 'Bama
R2: Creed Humphrey, OC, Oklahoma
R3: Hunter Long, TE, BC
R4: Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio St.
R4: Tony Fields II, ILB, WVU

:director: I'd take that in a heartbeat!!!

[86WARD]

Sold!

[pczach]

Final Mock.


1. Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
2. Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia
3. Robert Hainsey, C, Notre Dame
4. James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati
4. Daelin Hayes, OLB, Notre Dame
6. Luke Farrell, TE, Ohio State
7. Avery Williams, CB, Boise State
7. Pressley Harvin iii, P, Georgia Tech


UDFA signings.
Justin Hilliad, ILB, Ohio State
Ben Skowronek, WR, Notre Dame
Eli Howard, DT, Texas Tech
Paris Ford, S, Pittsburgh
Forrest Merrill, NT, Arkansas State
William Bradley-King, OLB, Baylor
Brandon Kennedy, C, Tennessee




Robert Hainsey played as an OT at Notre Dame. I know most believe he will need to move to guard in the NFL. Are you projecting him as a center?

[BlackAndGold]

Robert Hainsey played as an OT at Notre Dame. I know most believe he will need to move to guard in the NFL. Are you projecting him as a center?

I am. At the senior bowl Hainsey looked like a natural playing at center. Smart player. I believe the Steelers view him as a projected center also.

[pczach]

I am. At the senior bowl Hainsey looked like a natural playing at center. Smart player. I believe the Steelers view him as a projected center also.




I just wanted to clarify. The Irish always have interesting OL players to look at. He's a powerful guy. If he can handle all the responsibilities of C, he would be a man-mover inside.

He seems to best fit in a power blocking scheme.

[RunNGun]

Final mock...probably.

1. L. Dickerson- If they're really trying to improve the running game then it starts with Dickerson. He's an instant upgrade over Finney. The more I think about it the more I believe that the C position is in fact our biggest need. If they don't pull the trigger on Dickerson in the 1st then there's a good chance they miss out on Meinerz and Humphrey in the 2nd, IMO.

2. Browning- I've been really high on this guy. He's a freak athletically and would pair very well with Bush. He also has nice size for the position. I've seen Browning going anywhere from the 1st to 4th round. Hopefully, he's available at 55.

3. Sermon- While I'm not as high as others on Sermon...I do believe he will be the best back available back at 87.

4. Tremble- Another one I'm not as high on. The potential is there. He has all the tools. He was used primarily as an H-back. People are claiming he's an excellent blocker, but playing the H-back role compared to an in line TE are 2 different ball games. I see him as a move TE and maybe Canada can find ways to get him involved.

4. S. Toney- Best available edge at this point. Many claim he's actually better than Oweh. I'll be honest...I don't know much about him, but from what I've read it seems like he can provide solid depth at the least.

6. T.Doyle- Finally address the T position. Doyle is a decent prospect. He won't be taking anyone's starting position, but could develop into starting material in a few years.

7. A. Faoliu- Dline prospect destined to the PS.

7. J. Imatorbhebhe- I can't see the Steelers not taking a WR. Imator posted a 46.5 inch vertical. Could be a nice guy to have in the redzone. He's also a very physical WR. He would probably also be destined to the PS.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I just wanted to clarify. The Irish always have interesting OL players to look at. He's a powerful guy. If he can handle all the responsibilities of C, he would be a man-mover inside.

He seems to best fit in a power blocking scheme.

Hainsey isnt overly bulky at 6'4" 306lbs and moves fairly well. Notre Dame shifted their run game last year to more outside zone under OC Tommy Rees, so Hainsey will have a lot of experience in zone blocking, as well as man schemes. He prides himself on versatility, so he could easily fit as a G/C for the Steelers I think.

IMO, his counterpart at Guard, Aaron Banks is more of the bigger guy at 325lbs who is a mauler in a man system. Both showed well at Senior Bowl week. I still think that Eichenberg gets looked at as a RT or maybe even a candidate to move inside.

[teegre]

Here’s a good one. :nod: Lots of guys off of the “met AND/OR Pro Day” list. The two “small school” guys on Day 2 could turn out to be two of the biggest steals in recent draft history; if they had been at bigger schools, they’d be sure fire R1 picks. We’ve all talked about the top four quite a bit.

And, the Steelers drafting a corner from French Canada is known as the Mapletron effect. :lol:

https://www.steelcityunderground.com/2021/04/28/ryan-lipperts-2021-4-round-steelers-mock-draft/

R1: Najee Harris, RB, ‘Bama
R2: Quinn Meinerz, OC, Whitewater
R3: Spence Brown, OT, Northern Iowa
R4: Tommy Tremble, TE, Norte Dame
R4: Benjamin St. Juste, CB, Minnesota

[LLT]

Posted in another thread...but here ya go:

RD 1 Creed Humphrey OC Oklahoma
RD 2 Spencer Brown OT Northern Iowa
RD 3 Trey Sermon RB Ohio State
Rd 4a Ambry Thomas CB Michigan
RD 4b Daelin Hayes EDGE Notre Dame
RD 6 Briley Moore TE Kansas State
RD 7a Dez Fitzpatrick WR Louisville
RD7b Christian Uphoff S Illinois State

If the Steelers DO draft a RB in the first...here would be my dream draft

RD 1 Najee Harris RB Alabama
RD 2 Landon Dickerson OC Alabama
RD 3 Spencer Brown OT Northern Iowa
RD 4a. Ambry Thomas CB Michigan
RD 4b Daelin Hayes EDGE Notre Dame
RD6 Cornell Powell WR Clemson
RD 7a Christian Uphoff S Illinois State
RD 7b Luke Farrell TE Ohio State

[teegre]

If the Steelers DO draft a RB in the first...here would be my dream draft

RD 1 Najee Harris RB Alabama
RD 2 Landon Dickerson OC Alabama
RD 3 Spencer Brown OT Northern Iowa


I think that this is it right here. :nod: Maybe Meinerz in R2, but this feels like the way that Day 2 will end.

[pczach]

Hainsey isnt overly bulky at 6'4" 306lbs and moves fairly well. Notre Dame shifted their run game last year to more outside zone under OC Tommy Rees, so Hainsey will have a lot of experience in zone blocking, as well as man schemes. He prides himself on versatility, so he could easily fit as a G/C for the Steelers I think.

IMO, his counterpart at Guard, Aaron Banks is more of the bigger guy at 325lbs who is a mauler in a man system. Both showed well at Senior Bowl week. I still think that Eichenberg gets looked at as a RT or maybe even a candidate to move inside.



With Hainsey, I'm not crazy about his feet or movement skills. I think there are times it looks like he struggles to get to his blocks. I think pulling may be a problem with him. That's why I think he may do better in power blocking schemes because he may not be capable of playing at a high level based on lack of movement skills.

I hear you about Banks. He is a mauler with better size and power. Your prototypical phone booth guy.

Eichenberg is probably the least talked about OT that may go in the first round. He is pretty impressive. You are correct. He probably has to move to RT or will be a candidate to move inside. He is the guy I would most like of that group if he was available in the right spot.