Steeler Running Backs

[Shoes]

What would you do with the Steeler RB issue? Who would you keep, let walk and draft and what round?

It seems like Conner may go. I'm guessing they will keep snell as the back-up and the 8 carries for 4 yards.

[Six Rings]

What would you do with the Steeler RB issue? Who would you keep, let walk and draft and what round?

It seems like Conner may go. I'm guessing they will keep snell as the back-up and the 8 carries for 4 yards.


The best news is Conner is a free agent, and the rest of them are pretty much signed for cheap. Draft a back in the first three picks, the rest will take care of itself.

[Born2Steel]

Conner was the feature RB for his 4 years here. He made a ProBowl his 2nd season but never rushed for 1000yards any year. I think Conner is the best RB in the room by far right now so I hate to see him go from that standpoint. But at the same time, he hasn't earned a 2nd contract, IMO. Great guy, loves the Steelers, good luck wherever he ends up.

[Mojouw]

I would cut Snell. He just isn't an NFL RB. Great attitude. Great worker. All that. Below the line athlete. I would cut Samuels. I would give McFarland one more year to see if he can flourish under his old coach in a change of pace role. Samuels likely comes back for that reason as well.

I would not resign Conner for more than a certain price tag. Not feeling like figuring that you right now. But I would at least tell his agent "This is the best we are going to do. Your call."

Then I draft the best guy I can find in the 3rd or 4th round and I hope my scouting staff can find the next James Robinson or some other unheralded RB that emerges strong in his rookie year.

[Shoes]

I would cut Snell. He just isn't an NFL RB. Great attitude. Great worker. All that. Below the line athlete. I would cut Samuels. I would give McFarland one more year to see if he can flourish under his old coach in a change of pace role. Samuels likely comes back for that reason as well.

I would not resign Conner for more than a certain price tag. Not feeling like figuring that you right now. But I would at least tell his agent "This is the best we are going to do. Your call."

Then I draft the best guy I can find in the 3rd or 4th round and I hope my scouting staff can find the next James Robinson or some other unheralded RB that emerges strong in his rookie year.


Makes sense to me. I cringe thinking of having snell as the backup. The Steelers have given a long rope to some players, just hope they don't throw one snell's way. I'd like to keep Conner if things would pan out fairly for both parties. I know last time Rooney started talking about the running game needing help, they drafted a RB early. I think it may have been Bell, so I could see them going for a RB in R2.

[Born2Steel]

Makes sense to me. I cringe thinking of having snell as the backup. The Steelers have given a long rope to some players, just hope they don't throw one snell's way. I'd like to keep Conner if things would pan out fairly for both parties. I know last time Rooney started talking about the running game needing help, they drafted a RB early. I think it may have been Bell, so I could see them going for a RB in R2.

I think based on draft history R2 may be the spot too. I feel this will rule out drafting Etienne or Harris though.

[Mojouw]

Makes sense to me. I cringe thinking of having snell as the backup. The Steelers have given a long rope to some players, just hope they don't throw one snell's way. I'd like to keep Conner if things would pan out fairly for both parties. I know last time Rooney started talking about the running game needing help, they drafted a RB early. I think it may have been Bell, so I could see them going for a RB in R2.

I think you are remembering that right. I just think you can find a good RB later in the draft. Well...other teams seem to be able to. The Steelers? They better trade up!

[DesertSteel]

After the top 2 guys, who are the R2 RBs that will be there when we pick?

[Shoes]

I think you are remembering that right. I just think you can find a good RB later in the draft. Well...other teams seem to be able to. The Steelers? They better trade up!

Yes, I agree. I think Bell was ranked 5th best in his class. I'll have to check who was in his class

[Shoes]

After the top 2 guys, who are the R2 RBs that will be there when we pick?

This is CBS ranking.

Some sites have Javonte Williams in the top 3, Kylin Hill will be there. I think there will be a good RB available R3-4. But Art may be tired of talking about the run game and pull off a R1-2. I found articles of him harping on this as far back as 2009





RK
PLAYER
SCHOOL
YEAR
POS
POS RK
HT
WT




21
Travis Etienne (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2809206/travis-etienne)
Clemson (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/CLEM/clemson-tigers/)
Sr
RB
1
5-10
205






44
Najee Harris (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2741200/najee-harris)
Alabama (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/BAMA/alabama-crimson-tide/)
Sr
RB
2
6-2
230






69
Kenneth Gainwell (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2968948/kenneth-gainwell)
Memphis (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/MEMP/memphis-tigers/)
Soph
RB
3
5-11
195




91
Rhamondre Stevenson (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/3125832/rhamondre-stevenson)
Oklahoma (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/OKLA/oklahoma-sooners/)
Sr
RB
4
6-0
246






93
Jaret Patterson (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2964701/jaret-patterson)
Buffalo (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/BUFF/buffalo-bulls/)
Jr
RB
5
5-9
195






94
Michael Carter (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2804075/michael-carter)
North Carolina (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/UNC/north-carolina-tar-heels/)
Sr
RB
6
5-8
199






99
Kylin Hill (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2876547/kylin-hill)
Miss. State (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/MISSST/mississippi-state-bulldogs/)
Sr
RB
7
5-11
210






110
Trey Sermon (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2804142/trey-sermon)
Ohio St. (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/OHIOST/ohio-state-buckeyes/)
Sr
RB
8
6-1
215






113
Javonte Williams (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2961719/javonte-williams)
North Carolina (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/UNC/north-carolina-tar-heels/)
Jr
RB
9
5-10
220






118
Demetric Felton (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2240193/demetric-felton)
UCLA (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/UCLA/ucla-bruins/)
Sr
RB
10
5-9
186






120
Chuba Hubbard (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2865693/chuba-hubbard)
Oklahoma St. (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/OKLAST/oklahoma-state-cowboys/)
Jr
RB
11
6-0
208






134
Kennedy Brooks (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/2867341/kennedy-brooks)
Oklahoma (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/OKLA/oklahoma-sooners/)
Jr
RB
12
5-11
215

[Born2Steel]

After the top 2 guys, who are the R2 RBs that will be there when we pick?

Currently on most big boards, it's probably Etienne, Harris, Javonte Williams, that fall into what the Steelers look for at RB as far as 5'10" - 6' and 215lbs - 230lbs. As far as 1st/2nd/3rd round. There are other good prospects, just going by what the Steelers usually look for at that position.

[DesertSteel]

Currently on most big boards, it's probably Etienne, Harris, Javonte Williams, that fall into what the Steelers look for at RB as far as 5'10" - 6' and 215lbs - 230lbs. As far as 1st/2nd/3rd round. There are other good prospects, just going by what the Steelers usually look for at that position.
I'm assuming that Etienne and Harris are going to be gone when we pick in R2.

[86WARD]

Makes sense to me. I cringe thinking of having snell as the backup. The Steelers have given a long rope to some players, just hope they don't throw one snell's way. I'd like to keep Conner if things would pan out fairly for both parties. I know last time Rooney started talking about the running game needing help, they drafted a RB early. I think it may have been Bell, so I could see them going for a RB in R2.

Same. Just the mention of him. Nice kid. Not a good RB.

[Shoes]

I'm assuming that Etienne and Harris are going to be gone when we pick in R2.

One of them might be since Williams is listed in the top 3 in some rankings. The kid is amazing at breaking tackles, like trying to tackle a 5'10" Gronk. :chuckle:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE65d6M9OY0

[steelreserve]

We have three running backs who are within about 5%-10% of average, one way or another. I wouldn't call it an urgent need, but it's not helping us either. Re-sign one or two for cheap if you can and see if you can get better at the other spot(s) without breaking the bank.

The thing about RBs of average skill is that their performance usually directly mirrors the quality of the offensive line. When the line was good, Conner was pretty good and probably a 1,000-yard rusher if he played enough. When the line is garbage, those guys get stuffed for 19 yards on 11 carries. The line is slipping due to age and losing some guys, but more than anything, the last couple years show the importance of a good position coach.

[ThorndikeFFA]

Which one of these guys can block for himself? That's the guy to pick in the 1st.

OK, if someone good drops to your pick in the 2nd, pull the trigger. But this team just plain SUCKS at run blocking. So your first pick, and maybe at least two more, needs to be for fat kids who can drive block and open a hole or two per game! I get it...Conner was hurt a lot. I would love to see the kid back at a good price.

Snell is a mystery, other than the OL. He was a beast at the collegian level. You post video of Williams breaking tackles...post up Snell's junior and senior year videos. They're at least as impressive. McFarland hasn't even learned the playbook yet. He needs some more time in the weight room and a ton of reps to get up to NFL speed.

We can't forget that this has also been the 2020 pandemic year. Some teams handled it pretty well. I don't think the Steelers offensive staff handled it well at all. The OL seemed out of sync all season at times. The drops! Etc. Hard to say how it might've been different without all of the restrictions required to deal with Covid.

[DesertSteel]

I think the only assignment given the o line this year was to keep Ben from getting a boo-boo.

[Shoes]

Add Michael Carter to the list, teammate of Jovonte Williams in the video above. Watch the move at the 6:00 mark. :chuckle:

This from the SR Bowl


Perhaps my two favorite players at the Senior Bowl, North Carolina’s running back Michael Carter and UCLA’s running back/receiver Demetric Felton, had great games on Saturday. Carter is a top-five running back and just confirmed my thoughts on him with the work he did this week and in today’s game. He may not have the size of other backs in this class, but in terms of natural running skills, I’m not sure there is a better player. His vision burst and ability to make defenders miss are outstanding. I loved what he was able to show in the receiving game as well.

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/32683-5-THINGS-WE-LEARNED-FROM-2021-SENIOR-BOWL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBuOOni14jo

[86WARD]

Add Michael Carter to the list, teammate of Jovonte Williams in the video above. Watch the move at the 6:00 mark. :chuckle:

This from the SR Bowl


Perhaps my two favorite players at the Senior Bowl, North Carolina’s running back Michael Carter and UCLA’s running back/receiver Demetric Felton, had great games on Saturday. Carter is a top-five running back and just confirmed my thoughts on him with the work he did this week and in today’s game. He may not have the size of other backs in this class, but in terms of natural running skills, I’m not sure there is a better player. His vision burst and ability to make defenders miss are outstanding. I loved what he was able to show in the receiving game as well.

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/32683-5-THINGS-WE-LEARNED-FROM-2021-SENIOR-BOWL



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBuOOni14jo

Two favorite players and not one is a TE? I call bullshit. Either someone hacked Shoes account or he’s sick!

I like Carter as well.

[Shoes]

Two favorite players and not one is a TE? I call bullshit. Either someone hacked Shoes account or he’s sick!

I like Carter as well.

:chuckle: Still hoping for Long maybe in R3

[Steelersfan]

The RB group is the easiest group/issue to fix and can go from last to first without breaking the bank or much maneuvering.

I try to trade Snell & Samuels for whatever I could get. A seventh rounder in the 2050 draft, I would take it. They are what the are and I don't see any potential of them to get better with a different QB, HC, RB coach, All pro O-line, weight or strength training, 50 more yrs of experience, etc....etc. They have had plenty of time to show a flash and NOTHING. McFarland has me worried too, but the kid deserves a chance to show that he could develop into something more than Snell or Samuels but so far NADA. Trey Edmunds was brought back so the bottom of the roster RB group is between those two.

I agree with ALL above, that I would do ALL I could to resign Connor at as close to the minimum for a #2 that I could. If they can resign him as a #2 cheap, he would benefit & our run game would benefit. He could be the best #2 in the league.

I also try to sign a vet free agent. Carson or a Carson type would be great. I'd eve
n consider someone like Ingram, if you could get him for minimum, Thing with Ingram, he'd be your short yardage "prodder" only.

Then comes the draft:
- If the Steelers take a QB #1, then you HAVE to go O-line #2. That leaves round #3 as the earliest you could go RB. Williams won't be there, so I hope Sermon falls.
- If the Steelers pass on a RD #1 QB, then you take O-line #1 & you could possible get Williams in RD #2. Javonte may be the best Steeler back in this draft. He'd look great in Black n Gold.

RB Group

Williams or Sermon
Connor
Carson/Ingram
McFarland or Edmunds
AT least one, prob two Undrafated free agents for next years practice squad.

RB group fixed OR AT LEAST completely changed.

[Disco1981]

NONE, of them look good..And I'm serious...But could any of them be any good behind this OL...

But Art rectified that by hiring the " backup " OL Coach!

[st33lersguy]

A day 2 selection for a rb would be a good idea, though they probably should draft an o-lineman before rb

[that1guy]

A day 2 selection for a rb would be a good idea, though they probably should draft an o-lineman before rb

I agree IF and only if Nagee Harris isn't still available.

[EzraTank]

I would cut Snell. He just isn't an NFL RB. Great attitude. Great worker. All that. Below the line athlete. I would cut Samuels. I would give McFarland one more year to see if he can flourish under his old coach in a change of pace role. Samuels likely comes back for that reason as well.

I would not resign Conner for more than a certain price tag. Not feeling like figuring that you right now. But I would at least tell his agent "This is the best we are going to do. Your call."

Then I draft the best guy I can find in the 3rd or 4th round and I hope my scouting staff can find the next James Robinson or some other unheralded RB that emerges strong in his rookie year.

Or add 5 more downs so his 1 YPC is more viable.

[teegre]

As I’ve posted several places (and I see that Shoes has posted it, as well)...

Michael Carter

He has been overshadowed by Javante Williams, but shown enough to prove he’s a very good RB. A bonus is that the tread hasn’t been worn off of his tires (due to splitting carries). I see Williams and Carter as the same as Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas... or, Jerome Bettis and Ricky Watters... both will find NFL success.

[teegre]

On a related topic...

Demetric Felton (RB, UCLA) will be a Chief.

He lined up as a WR for the Senior Bowl... and flourished. Imagine that type of player on third down. If the defense stacks the box, Felton splits out wide; if the defense is in dime, then Felton lines up as a RB. I know that Andy Reid & Eric Bieniemy would use him to his fullest potential... taking their offense to yet another level. ARGH!!!

[dislocatedday]

We have three running backs who are within about 5%-10% of average, one way or another. I wouldn't call it an urgent need, but it's not helping us either. Re-sign one or two for cheap if you can and see if you can get better at the other spot(s) without breaking the bank.

The thing about RBs of average skill is that their performance usually directly mirrors the quality of the offensive line. When the line was good, Conner was pretty good and probably a 1,000-yard rusher if he played enough. When the line is garbage, those guys get stuffed for 19 yards on 11 carries. The line is slipping due to age and losing some guys, but more than anything, the last couple years show the importance of a good position coach.

I don't disagree with this at all, but even if you are a top-tier rusher, if your line is struggling it is hard to do anything. Ezekiel Elliot sucked for the Cowboys this year behind an injured and porous offensive line. He did not look much better than Conner this past season.

[hawaiiansteeler]

It seems like Conner may go.

Clayton: Dolphins Have Interest In Pursuing Steelers RB James Conner In Free Agency

By Dave Bryan
Posted on March 10, 2021

Pittsburgh Steelers running back James Conner is set to become an unrestricted free agent in a week and assuming that happens, he’ll almost surely be gone and thus will sign with another team at some point. While Conner won’t be the cream of the crop in this year’s group of free agent running backs, there is bound to be a team or two interested in signing him for more than the minimum. According to John Clayton during his weekly interview on 93.7 The Fan, the Miami Dolphins could potentially be a landing spot for Conner in the coming week or weeks.

“I know there’s interest in Miami in him, and there’s going to be interest because there’s so many running backs that are going to be available at lower prices, but he’s going to be available at a lower price,” Clayton said of Conner.

So, assuming Conner does latch on elsewhere in free agency, will he get starter’s money? Clayton doesn’t think so.

to read rest of article:

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/03/clayton-dolphins-have-interest-in-pursuing-steelers-rb-james-conner-in-free-agency/

[Shoes]

Clayton: Dolphins Have Interest In Pursuing Steelers RB James Conner In Free Agency

By Dave Bryan
Posted on March 10, 2021

Pittsburgh Steelers running back James Conner is set to become an unrestricted free agent in a week and assuming that happens, he’ll almost surely be gone and thus will sign with another team at some point. While Conner won’t be the cream of the crop in this year’s group of free agent running backs, there is bound to be a team or two interested in signing him for more than the minimum. According to John Clayton during his weekly interview on 93.7 The Fan, the Miami Dolphins could potentially be a landing spot for Conner in the coming week or weeks.

“I know there’s interest in Miami in him, and there’s going to be interest because there’s so many running backs that are going to be available at lower prices, but he’s going to be available at a lower price,” Clayton said of Conner.

So, assuming Conner does latch on elsewhere in free agency, will he get starter’s money? Clayton doesn’t think so.

to read rest of article:

https://steelersdepot.com/2021/03/clayton-dolphins-have-interest-in-pursuing-steelers-rb-james-conner-in-free-agency/

Sad to say Snell will be back with 10 carries for 4 yards. :chuckle:

[86WARD]

Sad to say Snell will be back with 10 carries for 4 yards. :chuckle:

It is sad and if Conner doesn’t get starter money, I think the Steelers would be hard pressed to find a similar back on the cheap. Would have to be done through the draft. If they go in with Benny Snell as the starter, that run game is fucked no matter how good or bad the O-Line is.

[Dwinsgames]

was the 1st to say it ( Jan 24th in draft thread )


Everybody talks about Williams of the tarheels but I am not even sure he is the best RB on his own team , I too really like Michael Carter... all he did was average 8ypc and score 9 times this year in part time duty ... love the low miles too got it enough to show he has IT but not enough to deflate the tires....


he has that Aaron Jones feel about him and y'all know how I felt about Jones pre draft


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSU9krbolfw&ab_channel=TarHeelTapes


but as much as I like Carter ...... I am thinking Rhamondre Stevenson might be the better way to go ... you get that pass catcher that can also punish defenders , he has Bell Cow written all over him and for a man his size ( over 6 feet some say 240+) he has some elusiveness

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4QpgjjsQy4&amp;ab_channel=FootballTrends

[cubanstogie]

It is sad and if Conner doesn’t get starter money, I think the Steelers would be hard pressed to find a similar back on the cheap. Would have to be done through the draft. If they go in with Benny Snell as the starter, that run game is fucked no matter how good or bad the O-Line is.
Snell to me is the Landry Jones at RB position. Occasionally he runs for 5 plus yards and looks good doing it. The majority of times he’s stuffed. I said a year ago Conner would be better suited as 3rd down type back and wanted Fournette or draft in early rounds a stud to start. First four games and I was eating crow now I’m back to same opinion. Problem is Miami or someone will pay him big bucks, and I’d be happy for him. I wouldn’t mind seeing a complete revamp in backfield, Mcfarland gets a chance everyone else gone.

[teegre]

was the 1st to say it ( Jan 24th in draft thread )




but as much as I like Carter ...... I am thinking Rhamondre Stevenson might be the better way to go ... you get that pass catcher that can also punish defenders , he has Bell Cow written all over him and for a man his size ( over 6 feet some say 240+) he has some elusiveness

<font size="3"><font color="#212529"><span style="font-family: Lato"><font color="#222222">
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4QpgjjsQy4&amp;ab_channel=FootballTrends


Speaking of which...

This guy must have been listening to our conversations. Every single one of his draft picks is a guy that we all have discussed here quite a bit.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-7-round-schulte-march/

R1: Zavin Collins, ILB, Tulsa
R2: Josh Myers, OC, Ohio St.
R3: Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame
R4: Rhamondre Stevens, RB, Oklahoma
R4: Austin Schwartz, WR, Auburn

And, obviously, EVERY mock draft has us taking...
R7: Tommy Kraemer, OG, Notre Dame

[Shoes]

Speaking of which...

This guy must have been listening to our conversations. Every single one of his draft picks is a guy that we all have discussed here quite a bit.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-mock-draft-7-round-schulte-march/

R1: Zavin Collins, ILB, Tulsa
R2: Josh Myers, OC, Ohio St.
R3: Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame
R4: Rhamondre Stevens, RB, Oklahoma
R4: Austin Schwartz, WR, Auburn

And, obviously, EVERY mock draft has us taking...
R7: Tommy Kraemer, OG, Notre Dame

Yes, but we aren't HOF'ers. :chuckle:

[86WARD]

McFarland gets a chance everyone else gone.
Good with that. For me, it’s that Snell doesn’t pick a hole...and if he does, it’s usually the wrong one...and he’s slow.

[EzraTank]

Anyone want Bell back? LOL.

https://fansided.com/2021/03/10/steelers-leveon-bell-intrigued-possible-return-pittsburgh/

[Shoes]

Anyone want Bell back? LOL.

https://fansided.com/2021/03/10/steelers-leveon-bell-intrigued-possible-return-pittsburgh/

Yes, for Benny Snell pay.

[Hawkman]

Anyone want Bell back? LOL.

https://fansided.com/2021/03/10/steelers-leveon-bell-intrigued-possible-return-pittsburgh/

I’m not opposed to bringing him back on a cheap and prove it contract.

[pczach]

Yes, for Benny Snell pay.



Let's get the band back together!

Bell, Brown, and Bryant return for vet minimum!!! :rofl:

[DesertSteel]

Etienne ran a 4.41 today at 215.

[RunNGun]

Etienne ran a 4.41 today at 215.

I like that. Not the typical RB Steelers look for at 215lbs, but I can get past that with 4.4 speed. I've seen a few comparisons to Dalvin Cook. I can get on board with that!

[86WARD]

Sign Bell for a one year/second year option prove it deal. Draft a RB (Harris). Waive Snell and Samuels.

Done deal!

Sign JuJu.

[EzraTank]

The story had Bell between $1.5 million to $5 million per year. If he's willing to take $1.5 million on a one year deal I take it.

[CV1]

Let's get the band back together!

Bell, Brown, and Bryant return for vet minimum!!! :rofl:

https://media4.giphy.com/media/ac7MA7r5IMYda/giphy.gif
[emoji1787]


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[Hawkman]

Sign Bell for a one year/second year option prove it deal. Draft a RB (Harris). Waive Snell and Samuels.

Done deal!

Sign JuJu.

You’re trying to sneak that Juju thing in wherever you can. I’m watching you.:photo:

[86WARD]

You’re trying to sneak that Juju thing in wherever you can. I’m watching you.:photo:

Not so much sneak...more blatant. I think it’s going to be one of their bigger mistakes (maybe of all-time) when they let him walk.

[st33lersguy]

Anyone want Bell back? LOL.

https://fansided.com/2021/03/10/steelers-leveon-bell-intrigued-possible-return-pittsburgh/

You mean the RB who couldn't even revive his career with the Cheifs? Sure bring him back

[RunNGun]

Not so much sneak...more blatant. I think it’s going to be one of their bigger mistakes (maybe of all-time) when they let him walk.

Juju is a hell of a #2 WR. The problem is we already have two #2 WRs...possibly 3 in Washington who come a lot cheaper. I hope he has a great future and he will be missed.

[st33lersguy]

Seriously, people need to move on from smokey bell. Not only should his bs from 2018 ensure he never gets back in the Steelers locker room, he's not even any good anymore. Remember when people talked about how his career would be revived by the chiefs and how he'd be in the right system? What dis he do for the chiefs? Not a damn thing. Move on and look for someone whose done something on a football field in the past 3 years

[Hawkman]

Not so much sneak...more blatant. I think it’s going to be one of their bigger mistakes (maybe of all-time) when they let him walk.

I’m just having fun seeing you post his name in different threads, like this one about RBs.

[EzraTank]

It looks like Bell is giving Phillip Rivers a run for his money:

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/03/08/leveon-bell-rumored-to-be-having-his-7th-child-with-sixth-woman-pic/

Of course Rivers had his with only one woman (so boring).

[st33lersguy]

Travis Henry, Antonio Cromartie, Le'Veon Bell

[86WARD]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210312/af70ba2476e4e6dc28f6aeda940aaa95.jpg

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[DesertSteel]

Juju is a hell of a #2 WR. The problem is we already have two #2 WRs...possibly 3 in Washington who come a lot cheaper. I hope he has a great future and he will be missed.
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It looks like Bell is giving Phillip Rivers a run for his money:

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021/03/08/leveon-bell-rumored-to-be-having-his-7th-child-with-sixth-woman-pic/

Of course Rivers had his with only one woman (so boring).
Scottie Pippen has more baby mamas than rings. And Shaq has 15 kids with 3 baby mamas.

[Steel Peon]

Anyone want Bell back? LOL.

https://fansided.com/2021/03/10/steelers-leveon-bell-intrigued-possible-return-pittsburgh/
I used to really like Le'Veon, and then he started speaking into a microphone, and it all fell apart. He'll just be an ass from day one forward.

[oneforthetoe]

Anyone want Bell back? LOL.

https://fansided.com/2021/03/10/steelers-leveon-bell-intrigued-possible-return-pittsburgh/

I'll take Bell back at the right price in a second. Yes, when he refused to report to the Steelers I swore him off forever. But, forever is a long time. I figure he paid the price for leaving the Steelers and going to the Jets. Unlike AB, he was never a cancer in the locker room. Nor is he likely to be a bad influence on any younger teammates.

I'm not suggesting Bell can be the me-cow (see what I did there) but even with his diminished skills he could help the offense, IMO. First, with his patients he has always been a effective runner when the QB is in the shotgun. I would rather trust Bell to pick up a blitzer on third and long than a rookie. Finally, again with an acknowledgement to his diminished skills, I still think he helps with our predictability problem on offense. How often did Bell line up at running back, go in motion, and end up at wide receiver causing the secondary to adjust.

I still think we need to draft a running back, but if the money works out I think Bell could help the team.

[Dissolv]

Bell is a straight up no go. 1) Someone burns you like that when you offer the most $$, they don't want to play with you. You take that $h!t back and you are just desperate. 2) Bell isn't that good right now, and unlikely to be good again. You'd be hiring a memory of a guy, not the guy who exists here today.

Even Vet minimum, I wouldn't take him. We don't need him, and he can't help us. Plus screw the drama. We just got over that. I'd rather have Jesse James back.

[ETL]

I can’t be upset with Bell for wanting to get paid and I’m glad the Steelers were not the ones who paid him. Anyone who has a problem with this - well let’s discuss how much you get paid and if you’re really worth it.

Bell should be welcomed back ... at the right price. I would bring him back if we don’t draft a RB. If we do - Bell will be a distraction

[DesertSteel]

I can’t be upset with Bell for wanting to get paid and I’m glad the Steelers were not the ones who paid him. Anyone who has a problem with this - well let’s discuss how much you get paid and if you’re really worth it.

Bell should be welcomed back ... at the right price. I would bring him back if we don’t draft a RB. If we do - Bell will be a distraction

I really don't think he's got it anymore. He was a 3.9 YPC RB when he left here years ago.

[oneforthetoe]

Bell could still be an effective 3rd down back at the right price I believe. He knows who to block, which is likely and issue with a rookie. An obvious loss of a step not withstanding, I still believe he has enough speed to get open out of the backfield and to make teams adjust when he goes in motion and ends up split out wide. He also runs pretty well taking the ball from a QB in the shotgun (limited carries at this point).

Not advocating paying him a high salary but if he is still out there when most of the other FA running backs have been signed I'm for taking a shot.

[RunNGun]

When he sat out on his franchise tag I think he burned his bridge. I do understand why he did it and can't argue his reasons for doing so. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back, but I doubt the Steelers front office feels the same.

[hawaiiansteeler]

When he sat out on his franchise tag I think he burned his bridge. I do understand why he did it and can't argue his reasons for doing so. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back, but I doubt the Steelers front office feels the same.

that Bell has tolled.

[SteelMayhem72]

I really don't think he's got it anymore. He was a 3.9 YPC RB when he left here years ago.I think Bell is past his prime

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[hawaiiansteeler]

5 questionable draft trends the Pittsburgh Steelers must rethink

Only take big running backs early in the draft

I don’t know what is with the infatuation that Pittsburgh has with big running backs. There are plenty of successful NFL teams who don’t seem to follow this at all, yet it’s something that is a must for the Steelers when drafting a running back in the first three rounds.

Le’Veon Bell and James Conner were both at least 230 pounds coming out of college, while Benny Snell and Jaylen Samuels both weighted at least 224 pounds, according to MockDraftable. The only player currently on their roster who doesn’t follow this trend is Anthony McFarland (208 lbs), but he was a day-three pick.

If the Steelers continue to draft like this, then players like Christian McCaffrey (202 lbs), Dalvin Cook (210 lbs), and Alvin Kamara (214 lbs) probably won’t be on their radar, and it likely means that Pittsburgh will not even consider a player like Travis Etienne (205 lbs) this April.

to read rest of article:

https://stillcurtain.com/2021/03/20/5-draft-trend-steelers-rethink/

[Steeler-in-west]

Whether Bell has any commitment or not to give his all, it’s still worrisome that he didn’t do anything with the chiefs last year, did he even get on the field in the super bowl?

I think the Steelers should have better RB options available to them

[Dwinsgames]

was the 1st to say it ( Jan 24th in draft thread )




but as much as I like Carter ...... I am thinking Rhamondre Stevenson might be the better way to go ... you get that pass catcher that can also punish defenders , he has Bell Cow written all over him and for a man his size ( over 6 feet some say 240+) he has some elusiveness

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4QpgjjsQy4&amp;ab_channel=FootballTrends


yeah I know its preseason but ......



Rhamondre Stevenson (https://www.nfl.com/players//)
10carries

127yards

2TD

12.7YPC

[DesertSteel]

yeah I know its preseason but ......



Rhamondre Stevenson (https://www.nfl.com/players//)
10carries
127yards
2TD
12.7YPC



Yeah let’s wait till he makes the hall of fame before you pat yourself too hard.

[Born2Steel]

I think most on here had Stevenson and Sermon both high on their lists, but more of a 3rd round prospect. Najee Harris was THE GUY.

[Mojouw]

I think most on here had Stevenson and Sermon both high on their lists, but more of a 3rd round prospect. Najee Harris was THE GUY.

That seems about right. For me, I thought that Sermon and Stevenson were great targets if the team didn't want to use their first rounder on a RB. It will be interesting to monitor the gap in production, if any, between Harris, Sermon, and Stevenson. Easy enough "what if" to play out...

...Another fun one is Claypool, Pittman, and Edwards from the 2020 WR class. All three profiled similarly as big bodied WRs with Claypool projected by many to have a slighter higher ceiling.

[Born2Steel]

That seems about right. For me, I thought that Sermon and Stevenson were great targets if the team didn't want to use their first rounder on a RB. It will be interesting to monitor the gap in production, if any, between Harris, Sermon, and Stevenson. Easy enough "what if" to play out...

...Another fun one is Claypool, Pittman, and Edwards from the 2020 WR class. All three profiled similarly as big bodied WRs with Claypool projected by many to have a slighter higher ceiling.

I was less on Claypool during the pre-draft process because I kept reading things like he was a tweener WR/TE type guy. I did like Pittman, I was all in on Higgins though.

[HollywoodSteel]

I was less on Claypool during the pre-draft process because I kept reading things like he was a tweener WR/TE type guy. I did like Pittman, I was all in on Higgins though.

I don’t follow college football and knew little to nothing about Claypool before the draft, but I’m curious what would make people think of him as a tweener? Intuitively I’d think that is a guy who isn’t big/strong enough to be an NFL
TE, and not fast enough to be a WR. But Claypool is plenty fast enough. What was the knock on him?

[Mojouw]

I don’t follow college football and knew little to nothing about Claypool before the draft, but I’m curious what would make people think of him as a tweener? Intuitively I’d think that is a guy who isn’t big/strong enough to be an NFL
TE, and not fast enough to be a WR. But Claypool is plenty fast enough. What was the knock on him?

I read a few draft forecasters speculating that Claypool was going to test too slow. Obviously that didn't happen.

[HollywoodSteel]

I read a few draft forecasters speculating that Claypool was going to test too slow. Obviously that didn't happen.

Even after the combine where he ran a 4.42?

[Mojouw]

Even after the combine where he ran a 4.42?

Not so much after that from what I remember. But leading up to the combine there was all this random internet chatter that he wouldn't run fast and have to eat White Castle until he was TE sized.

From what I can piece together, Claypool is another in a long line of college WRs that was totally under rated because the guys throwing to him in school were pretty bad. He has some work to do...but the sky is the limit...

[HollywoodSteel]

Not so much after that from what I remember. But leading up to the combine there was all this random internet chatter that he wouldn't run fast and have to eat White Castle until he was TE sized.

From what I can piece together, Claypool is another in a long line of college WRs that was totally under rated because the guys throwing to him in school were pretty bad. He has some work to do...but the sky is the limit...

Well, I suppose we should be happy that he was undervalued. Granted it was a very deep wr class. But there’s no denying we got a first round talent in the second round.

[Dwinsgames]

I don’t follow college football and knew little to nothing about Claypool before the draft, but I’m curious what would make people think of him as a tweener? Intuitively I’d think that is a guy who isn’t big/strong enough to be an NFL
TE, and not fast enough to be a WR. But Claypool is plenty fast enough. What was the knock on him?

he's Canadian ..........

its rare anyone from North of the Border does anything in the NFL only 20 Canadian Born players currently in the nfl and as a 2nd year player Claypool is likely the best

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I don’t follow college football and knew little to nothing about Claypool before the draft, but I’m curious what would make people think of him as a tweener? Intuitively I’d think that is a guy who isn’t big/strong enough to be an NFL
TE, and not fast enough to be a WR. But Claypool is plenty fast enough. What was the knock on him?

Claypool showed up at Senior Bowl 10 lbs lighter and just caught everything and looked quicker in and out of his breaks than his game film showed. I think the questions was if he could stay leaner and be quicker or would he play at the heavier weight he was at ND. Big guys like that that can run are still rare to see, but the smaller guys get in and out of breaks quicker and create separation.

Claypool made money at the Senior Bowl week and Combine and I think was pretty much a 2nd round pick at that point.

[teegre]

Baldinger did a nice one-minute breakdown of how “special” Najee is. Two Eagles backers had Najee dead to rights behind the LOS. Najee spins by one, which essentially turned the other into a blocker (one defender knocked the other one out of the way), and then churned his feet as he got low and gained two more yards as he was being gang tackled. At the end, what should have been a two-yard loss, was a 6 yard run (a net of plus eight from initial contact).

[Fire Goodell]

i like big backs and i cannot lie

[86WARD]

Baldinger did a nice one-minute breakdown of how “special” Najee is. Two Eagles backers had Najee dead to rights behind the LOS. Najee spins by one, which essentially turned the other into a blocker (one defender knocked the other one out of the way), and then churned his feet as he got low and gained two more yards as he was being gang tackled. At the end, what should have been a two-yard loss, was a 6 yard run (a net of plus eight from initial contact).

That’s what I was saying during the games. He has that ability to churn yards even when there’s nothing there.