Matt Canada new OC

[hawaiiansteeler]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

The #Steelers are expected to promote QB coach Matt Canada to offensive coordinator, sources tell me and
@TomPelissero
. A creative mind originally from the college game, Canada also interviewed with the #Dolphins but now stays in Pittsburgh.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1350531768105971712?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Shoes]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

The #Steelers are expected to promote QB coach Matt Canada to offensive coordinator, sources tell me and
@TomPelissero
. A creative mind originally from the college game, Canada also interviewed with the #Dolphins but now stays in Pittsburgh.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1350531768105971712?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


Good news if true!

[SteeleReign]

I assume we can expect more motion? What other differences can we expect with a Canadian [emoji16] offense versus the Fichtner product?

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[Hawkman]

Two games in to next season everyone will want him fired.

[86WARD]

Two games in to next season everyone will want him fired.

Will it take that long?

[86WARD]

Willing to give him a chance. Sometimes though, I wish they’d hire from outside of the organization.

[Shoes]

Will it take that long?

Nope, first O series in the game day thread.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Willing to give him a chance. Sometimes though, I wish they’d hire from outside of the organization.

I guess you could justify it by saying we hired Canada last year from outside the organization.

[Devilsdancefloor]

More running period but add watt in front of Conner snell McFarland and play action I’m hoping

[Rotorhead]

I guess you could justify it by saying we hired Canada last year from outside the organization.

Exactly what I was going to say

[Fire Goodell]

If our offense sucks, we can blame Canada

[Mojouw]

Willing to give him a chance. Sometimes though, I wish they’d hire from outside of the organization.

In a sense, he is. They hired him last year as QB Coach with this exact move in mind. At least, that has always been what I believed.

Seems to be a creative mind that has had success.

[86WARD]

I guess you could justify it by saying we hired Canada last year from outside the organization.

True and you could see some of his influences in the offense...or at least his one play.

[CV1]

If our offense sucks, we can blame Canada

[emoji1787]


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[Shoes]

In a sense, he is. They hired him last year as QB Coach with this exact move in mind. At least, that has always been what I believed.

Seems to be a creative mind that has had success.


From a 2019 article

On his offense, there is little debate among most college football experts: It is intriguing, creative and somewhat revolutionary. “Him being able to create mismatches and find holes in the defense with movement, he’s probably the best I’ve ever seen,” says Cole Cubelic, a former Auburn center who’s now an analyst for ESPN.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/08/27/matt-canada-job-career-maryland-lsu

[ThorndikeFFA]

It will save a lot of time if we just skip the niceties and start hating him now.

[teegre]

If our offense sucks, we can blame Canada

They’re not even a real country anyway...

[tube517]

Two games in to next season everyone will want him fired.

First snap of preseason

[st33lersguy]

Can't be any worse than Milton Waddams

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Will it take that long?

It depends if there is a preseason or not.

[pczach]

So much for the report saying Canada won't be named OC...

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

So much for the report saying Canada won't be named OC...

True, but havent we been let down by the @crapsheet speculation tweet before?

I'm gonna wait for something official.

[Bluecoat96]

Willing to give him a chance. Sometimes though, I wish they’d hire from outside of the organization.Honestly, I think this was the plan last year. I feel like drafting someone like Mcfarland was a sign pointing this way. Just my two cents. So in essence, it was a hire from outside.

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[86WARD]

From a 2019 article

On his offense, there is little debate among most college football experts: It is intriguing, creative and somewhat revolutionary. “Him being able to create mismatches and find holes in the defense with movement, he’s probably the best I’ve ever seen,” says Cole Cubelic, a former Auburn center who’s now an analyst for ESPN.

https://www.si.com/college/2019/08/27/matt-canada-job-career-maryland-lsu

That’s like everything I wanted to hear and begged for this year...just a little bit of an innovative effort...

[Shoes]

That’s like everything I wanted to hear and begged for this year...just a little bit of an innovative effort...

Agreed and I liked this also

Former LSU guard Garrett Brumfield called Canada “a breath of fresh air” and described his offense as “dummy proof,” hard to defend but easy to learn.

[dislocatedday]

Canada seems like a guy who will bring fresh ideas to the offense. I do not know much about him other than I read those articles linked above, and that Mason did look much improved in the one game he played this year. I assume he worked closely with Matt Canada this whole past season. I also noticed Mason talking to Canada on the sidelines during this game.

Basically, I am OK with them giving Canada a chance at OC.....it appears Miami wanted him too, so there has to be something there with him that is appealing.

[DesertSteel]

He’s better than Fichtner (duh) but is he better than all the candidates out there?

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I’m changing my user name to FireCanada.

first

[that1guy]

Does this guarantee the return of Ben? It seemed like a push towards the door when Randy F was let go.

[Rotorhead]

Does this guarantee the return of Ben? It seemed like a push towards the door when Randy F was let go.

I don’t think one has to do with the other in this case. It is going to start with Ben’s decision followed by how they can make the $$’s work

[DesertSteel]

I think Canada’s opinion of Rudolph will determine whether a QB is drafted.

[NCSteeler]

I assume we can expect more motion? What other differences can we expect with a Canadian [emoji16] offense versus the Fichtner product?

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He seemed have turned MR into a functional QB


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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

He’s better than Fichtner (duh) but is he better than all the candidates out there?

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I’m changing my user name to FireCanada.

first

Have to get familiar with these song lyrics. :violin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBpgcZ1zYJs

[Steel Peon]

If our offense sucks, we can blame Canada
:applaudit:

[that1guy]

I think Canada’s opinion of Rudolph will determine whether a QB is drafted.

Rudolph sucks. Hope that helps Coach Canada

[hawaiiansteeler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbCmymqd7g

[pczach]

Where's SteelersCanada when you need him?

Is he going to be the new OC?

[DesertSteel]

Chances are if the offense soars that Canada will be hired away as a HC. He has the right profile.

[oneforthetoe]

If our offense sucks, we can blame Canada

If we can't win the Superbowl next year maybe we have a chance at the Grey Cup.

[Six Rings]

Two games in to next season everyone will want him fired.


Nah I give him 4 games. At his age Ben isn't going to want to learn a new system. Just throw it more often 5 or more yards down the field, mix in play action, and maybe a bootleg every once in a while. Not much to ask for.

I did nto think the Steelers with Tomlin having just one year left on contract, and Ben retiring soon could attract a quality OC.

[DesertSteel]

Post-Gazette still not reporting the Canada hire...

[Shoes]

Post-Gazette still not reporting the Canada hire...

Just so caldwell doesn't show up at the door.:yuck2:

[DesertSteel]

Just sayin... we’re putting our trust in Rap

[EzraTank]

I assume we can expect more motion? What other differences can we expect with a Canadian

Punting on 3rd down?

[Mojouw]

Nah I give him 4 games. At his age Ben isn't going to want to learn a new system. Just throw it more often 5 or more yards down the field, mix in play action, and maybe a bootleg every once in a while. Not much to ask for.

I did nto think the Steelers with Tomlin having just one year left on contract, and Ben retiring soon could attract a quality OC.

Odd how when you post shorter, typo filled responses with little content there are no odd font sizes, colors, bolding, or other formatting issues. BUT...when you post longer more detailed stuff there is all that.

Almost like it isn't how you type but how the message board formats the stuff you cut and paste from elsewhere....so strange. Might want to get your computer looked at. Could be a virus or something.

[Born2Steel]

I would like to have more information than just the general stuff in this article but maybe this can further this conversation instead of it devolving into puns and outright attacks on personnel and coaches. Maybe.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/lists/steelers-offensive-coordinator-matt-canada-ben-roethlisberger/


This one contains a little more insight, although all college feats.

https://247sports.com/college/lsu/Board/59425/Contents/Some-Stats-Info-on-Matt-Canada-49751936/

[hawaiiansteeler]

Mark Madden: Steelers promoting Matt Canada falls under ‘status quo,’ ‘definition of insanity’

MARK MADDEN | Monday, January 18, 2021

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden-steelers-promoting-matt-canada-falls-under-status-quo-definition-of-insanity/

[Born2Steel]

Mark Madden: Steelers promoting Matt Canada falls under ‘status quo,’ ‘definition of insanity’

MARK MADDEN | Monday, January 18, 2021

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden-steelers-promoting-matt-canada-falls-under-status-quo-definition-of-insanity/

So much bullshit in this article. Haters gonna hate but this is a bit much.

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The Steelers had 4 turnovers and no run game and lost by 11. The Saints had 4 turnovers and a great run game and lost by 10. No OC will overcome that consistently in the NFL. ZERO. All Madden's cliches might ring with some truth in a broad stroke, but a look at the details and Canada was the best choice. He deserves a shot, not the ole retread treatment before he gets a chance.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

has there been confirmation yet, by anybody other than a Rappaport tweet?? I see nothing on the Steelers.com or PG sites.

[Born2Steel]

has there been confirmation yet, by anybody other than a Rappaport tweet?? I see nothing on the Steelers.com or PG sites.

This article claims the Steelers announced the promotion.

https://fansided.com/2021/01/18/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-matt-canada-offense/

[DesertSteel]

has there been confirmation yet, by anybody other than a Rappaport tweet?? I see nothing on the Steelers.com or PG sites.
Nope

[DesertSteel]

This article claims the Steelers announced the promotion.

https://fansided.com/2021/01/18/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-matt-canada-offense/
I don’t see any announcement from the Steelers in that article.

[Born2Steel]

I don’t see any announcement from the Steelers in that article.

First sentence, 4th paragraph. "The Steelers announced they promoted quarterback’s coach Matt Canada (https://fansided.com/2021/01/16/steelers-rumors-matt-canada-offensive-coordinator/) to the role of OC for the 2021 season. "

[DesertSteel]

First sentence, 4th paragraph. "The Steelers announced they promoted quarterback’s coach Matt Canada (https://fansided.com/2021/01/16/steelers-rumors-matt-canada-offensive-coordinator/) to the role of OC for the 2021 season. "
I said I didn’t see an announcement FROM the Steelers in the article. Anyone can say the Steelers announced Daffy Duck as their OC. But a smart reader would know they just fired him.

[Born2Steel]

I said I didn’t see an announcement FROM the Steelers in the article. Anyone can say the Steelers announced Daffy Duck as their OC. But a smart reader would know they just fired him.

Original post on this..."CLAIMS" the Steelers announced.....

[Shoes]

Caldwell will be next to Ben in September. :lol:

[Born2Steel]

This article may clear some things up. By this I mean, "the expectation is Canada will be the new OC, but the Steelers MUST interview other candidates before they can officially make that hire".


https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2021/1/17/22235755/steelers-decisions-regarding-their-offensive-coordinator-leave-more-questions-than-answers-fichtner

[DesertSteel]

Canada is a candidate.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2021/01/18/pittsburgh-steelers-matt-canada-randy-fichtner-offensive-coordinator/stories/202101180100

[hawaiiansteeler]

Canada is a candidate.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2021/01/18/pittsburgh-steelers-matt-canada-randy-fichtner-offensive-coordinator/stories/202101180100

be patient.

the Steelers will officially announce it soon.

[DesertSteel]

be patient.

the Steelers will officially announce it soon.
Russ Grimm was once our Head Coach too. I just want the best man for the job and not just the guy Ben wants.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Russ Grimm was once our Head Coach too. I just want the best man for the job and not just the guy Ben wants.

I'm not sure that Canada is necessarily the OC that Ben wants.

but I agree with you, I'm also tiring of us catering to everything that Ben wants.

[DesertSteel]

I'm not sure that Canada is necessarily the OC that Ben wants.

but I agree with you, I'm also tiring of us catering to everything that Ben wants.
I think Ben would want Canada over bringing someone in from the outside.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I think Ben would want Canada over bringing someone in from the outside.

that's a good point, I sure hope Canada isn't forced to kiss Ben's ass like Fichtner did.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

that's a good point, I sure hope Canada isn't forced to kiss Ben's ass like Fichtner did.

I would hope that a 39 year old QB, who is long past his prime would have little ability to force anything to happen.

Ben will go into the HOF, he is owed his money on his contract, but at this point he is purely short term position holder and not part of any long term success that would bring the Steelers another Lombardi.

[Six Rings]

Mark Madden: Steelers promoting Matt Canada falls under ‘status quo,’ ‘definition of insanity’

MARK MADDEN | Monday, January 18, 2021

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden-steelers-promoting-matt-canada-falls-under-status-quo-definition-of-insanity/

I'm not a big Madden fan but he's right more often than not. Did the Steelers even interview other OC's?

[Shoes]

I'm not a big Madden fan but he's right more often than not. Did the Steelers even interview other OC's?

Perhaps that is what they are doing now and if so I hope it's not Tomlin's buddy caldwell. We don't need any more "old buddies" on the coaching staff.

[DesertSteel]

Hopefully they’re doing actual interviews and not mailing it in because whoever it is — good or bad, we’re going to be stuck with them for 4 years.

[NCSteeler]

I thought the whole idea of bringing Canada in last year was for this possibility? Which would mean they interviewed him last year and felt he had alot to offer.

Whoever they bring in likely has to design an offense around what Ben has left to bring to the table for at least one year and hope to draft or find a good QB after that.

For a prospective candidate point of view that may not be a job ya want. Plenty of teams with clearly known QB situations liking for OCs.



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[DesertSteel]

I thought the whole idea of bringing Canada in last year was for this possibility? Which would mean they interviewed him last year and felt he had alot to offer.

Whoever they bring in likely has to design an offense around what Ben has left to bring to the table for at least one year and hope to draft or find a good QB after that.

For a prospective candidate point of view that may not be a job ya want. Plenty of teams with clearly known QB situations liking for OCs.



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Well...... that was OUR idea. I'm not sure if it was there's.

[Mojouw]

I'm not a big Madden fan but he's right more often than not. Did the Steelers even interview other OC's?

Well, at least we know where you are getting this trash opinion. Step in the right direction. Next, find better sources for your opinions.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Perhaps that is what they are doing now and if so I hope it's not Tomlin's buddy caldwell. We don't need any more "old buddies" on the coaching staff.

I think Jim Caldwell is a good coach. I would not object to him being on the staff, maybe as QB coach.

I still find it interesting that the alleged Canada promotion hasnt been confirmed...but whatever.

[Shoes]

I think Jim Caldwell is a good coach. I would not object to him being on the staff, maybe as QB coach.

I still find it interesting that the alleged Canada promotion hasnt been confirmed...but whatever.

He may be but I'm gun-shy after the Fichtner & Butler combo attached to Tomlin's hips. Neither have earned their pay check imo. Fichtner has been spit-shining Bens shoes and Tomlin has been doing Butlers job for the last year or so.

[Born2Steel]

Where is the info on Tomlin being the actual DC and calling the defensive plays? Other than occasionally like HC will do? Can somebody post the links on this? I'm curious who is responsible for one of the best defenses in the NFL currently. If Tomlin is doing all that he deserves more credit than he gets.



https://steelersdepot.com/2019/01/rooney-says-butler-not-tomlin-makes-most-of-defensive-play-calls-during-games/

Has it changed much since this article?

[Mojouw]

Where is the info on Tomlin being the actual DC and calling the defensive plays? Other than occasionally like HC will do? Can somebody post the links on this? I'm curious who is responsible for one of the best defenses in the NFL currently. If Tomlin is doing all that he deserves more credit than he gets.



https://steelersdepot.com/2019/01/rooney-says-butler-not-tomlin-makes-most-of-defensive-play-calls-during-games/

Has it changed much since this article?

I don't remember where it was posted and who provided the information, but the Steelers related internet has become convinced that Tomlin calls most of the defensive plays during the 2020 season.

Basically it fits with most fans ideas/theories/opinions that both Fichtner and Butler are clown shows of coordinators. Not sure it is actually the truth or just Twitter speculation...

[Born2Steel]

I don't remember where it was posted and who provided the information, but the Steelers related internet has become convinced that Tomlin calls most of the defensive plays during the 2020 season.

Basically it fits with most fans ideas/theories/opinions that both Fichtner and Butler are clown shows of coordinators. Not sure it is actually the truth or just Twitter speculation...

The article I posted is only a year old and talks about how Tomlin and Butler work together calling the defense. Almost like Butler is the DC that defers to the HC. I just don't know how uncommon that actually is. Sean Payton has an OC but calls most of the offensive plays in NO, so does that mean the coordinator sucks or serves as an extension of the HC?

[Mojouw]

The article I posted is only a year old and talks about how Tomlin and Butler work together calling the defense. Almost like Butler is the DC that defers to the HC. I just don't know how uncommon that actually is. Sean Payton has an OC but calls most of the offensive plays in NO, so does that mean the coordinator sucks or serves as an extension of the HC?

Part of it is because the Steelers are super silent on how all this works. Even more so than a great deal of teams. Opens the door for speculation.

Basically, you have to remember that when the Steelers succeed it means the players are awesome. When they fail, it means the players are just football playing robots that are totally controlled by the awful coaches.

[Born2Steel]

I wonder how much of the Canada situation is being held up by time needed to interview, how much of the 'expected to be promoted' is made up for clicks, and how much Canada wants assurances since Tomlin is up for his extension also.

[NCSteeler]

One guess is the steelers didn't expect canada to interview elsewhere. Once it hit the press that he was inline for the miami job they had to jump if they wanted him .

It all seems pretty awkward. Honestly since Tomlin came onboard all the hires and fires seem totally dysfunctional .


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[Mojouw]

How are the hires and fires any different than other franchises? Speculation, rumor, debunked speculation, more rumor, and then a real report comes out.

The only difference I typically see is that the Steelers, overall, leak less than most other franchises which leads to more wild speculation to fill the void.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Matt Canada Promoted to Offensive Coordinator: Biggest Beneficiaries

By: Connor Deitrich | January 19, 2021

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2021/01/19/matt-canada-promoted-offensive-coordinator-beneficiaries/

[Shoes]

The article I posted is only a year old and talks about how Tomlin and Butler work together calling the defense. Almost like Butler is the DC that defers to the HC. I just don't know how uncommon that actually is. Sean Payton has an OC but calls most of the offensive plays in NO, so does that mean the coordinator sucks or serves as an extension of the HC?

There have been reports of this flying around the past few years and there is no question Tomlin has taken the play calling over at least some of the time. IMO if you had a good trustworthy D coordinator, why would you do that when Butler has been here so long? He (Tomlin) didn't call plays when LeBeau was here, (but probably should have) :chuckle:


According to Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2021/01/11/pittsburgh-steelers-ben-roethlisberger-offseason-mike-tomlin-kevin-colbert/stories/202101110105), however, it was the case during Sunday’s loss to the Cleveland Browns that Tomlin was, in fact, calling “all the defensive signals” against the Cleveland Browns. He also asserts that this has been the case for “most of the season, if not longer”.



https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/report-mike-tomlin-took-over-defensive-playcalling-last-season/. Ed bullshit


https://steelersdepot.com/2021/01/dulac-mike-tomlin-called-all-the-defensive-signals-against-browns-sunday-night/ I couldn't get into the PPG article.

[Born2Steel]

There have been reports of this flying around the past few years and there is no question Tomlin has taken the play calling over at least some of the time. IMO if you had a good trustworthy D coordinator, why would you do that when Butler has been here so long? He (Tomlin) didn't call plays when LeBeau was here, (but probably should have) :chuckle:


According to Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2021/01/11/pittsburgh-steelers-ben-roethlisberger-offseason-mike-tomlin-kevin-colbert/stories/202101110105), however, it was the case during Sunday’s loss to the Cleveland Browns that Tomlin was, in fact, calling “all the defensive signals” against the Cleveland Browns. He also asserts that this has been the case for “most of the season, if not longer”.



https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/19/report-mike-tomlin-took-over-defensive-playcalling-last-season/. Ed bullshit


https://steelersdepot.com/2021/01/dulac-mike-tomlin-called-all-the-defensive-signals-against-browns-sunday-night/ I couldn't get into the PPG article.

I guess it's just not that big of a deal to me. Most HCs that were offensive guys call their own offensive plays with help from an OC. Most HCs that were defensive guys call plays too. I haven't seen anything that makes me think this is a different situation. HCs call plays, why would we not expect Tomlin to?

[Shoes]

I guess it's just not that big of a deal to me. Most HCs that were offensive guys call their own offensive plays with help from an OC. Most HCs that were defensive guys call plays too. I haven't seen anything that makes me think this is a different situation. HCs call plays, why would we not expect Tomlin to?


Me either, I don't lose any sleep over this stuff. Well maybe I do since the games at 8pm ET are 2AM for me. :chuckle:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

The article I posted is only a year old and talks about how Tomlin and Butler work together calling the defense. Almost like Butler is the DC that defers to the HC. I just don't know how uncommon that actually is. Sean Payton has an OC but calls most of the offensive plays in NO, so does that mean the coordinator sucks or serves as an extension of the HC?

Its like you say, with regards to Payton calling plays. I think we can lump guys like McVay, Andy Reid, Kevin Stefanski, Doug Pederson, etc into that group of Head coaches (current or former) that like to be the play caller, because of their affinity for being a former OC. They still have an OC, who does weekly installation of the offense, oversees the position coaches to implement game plan, route combinations, blocking assignments, etc. But on Gameday they get the call sheet.

Similarly, Tomlin may over see the Offense, Special Teams and Defense separately, so that he knows what is progressing, what options, formations, plays, fakes, etc are available...but he may be more interested and involved in the Defense and want to be the guy that calls the defensive calls on gameday.

I dont think its that big of a deal. You still need a DC to manage the weekly install of game plan and new formation, blitz packages, personnel groupings, coverage schemes. If the HC is over checking out the Offense or Special Teams, Training staff, guys on the injury report, etc....the Defense cant be standing around in practice waiting for him to come back and run the Defense.

[oneforthetoe]

While play calling is important it's limited by the skills of the personnel. Early in the year many in the national media pegged the Steelers as the biggest threat to KC because they could get pressure rushing 4 or 5. That ability to get home without "bringing the house" really opens up the play book regardless of who is calling the plays. Even after the loss of Bush, I thought the defense remained pretty unpredictable. However, by the time Bud went down it seemed couldn't get pressure without blitzing save for TJ using his out of this world athleticism. It might not have been just the loss of Bud. IMO, there was also a drop off in pressure from the D'line.

I guess the conclusion I'd draw is that the D was much more unpredictable early in the year. And, while play calling was a factor, the lack of unpredictability isn't entirely a result of lack of skill at play calling.

As for play calling on offense, i'm not going to excuse Fitcher. He has proven over multiple years to be lacking in creativity to say the least. However, the principle does apply. And remains a shadow over Canada's early tenure. When your offensive line can't run block through a wet paper bag, it really limits how creative you can be.

[Hawkman]

Steelers are apparently interviewing Hue Jackson for the OC job, according to CBS news. I would post, but too iPad challenged to figure out to copy and paste from it.

[Shoes]

Steelers are apparently interviewing Hue Jackson for the OC job, according to CBS news. I would post, but too iPad challenged to figure out to copy and paste from it.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-interview-former-browns-coach-hue-jackson-for-offensive-coordinator-position-per-report/

[hawaiiansteeler]

Steelers are apparently interviewing Hue Jackson for the OC job, according to CBS news. I would post, but too iPad challenged to figure out to copy and paste from it.

an extension of the Rooney Rule now requires all teams to interview at least one minority candidate to hire assistant coaches.

Matt Canada will still be named as our OC.

[DesertSteel]

an extension of the Rooney Rule now requires all teams to interview at least one minority candidate to hire assistant coaches.

Matt Canada will still be named as our OC.
And Russ Grimm will be our head coach. Strange things happen when more interviews occur.

Of course, it was YOUR breaking story! lol

[hawaiiansteeler]

And Russ Grimm will be our head coach. Strange things happen when more interviews occur.

Of course, it was YOUR breaking story! lol

well, I can be premature at times :D

just ask my wife.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Report: '99.9 % a done deal' Canada is next Steelers offensive coordinator

The Fan's Andrew Fillipponi says a source with the Steelers tells him it's pretty much a done deal

By Andrew Limberg Andrew Fillipponi

January 22, 2021

Since originally being reported last weekend that current Steelers quarterbacks coach Matt Canada was going to be hired as the team’s new offensive coordinator, Pittsburgh has reportedly interviewed at least two others for the position.

But according to 93.7 The Fan’s Andrew Fillipponi, Canada is going to be the next OC.

The PM Team co-host said a source tells him “It’s 99.9 percent a done deal.”

Steelers sources have told me Matt Canada will be the team's next OC. One said "It's 99.9% a done deal." But there are some things left unsettled. Like will Canada stay on as QBs coach. It's possible Pep Hamilton or Hue Jackson could be hired as QB coach.
— Andrew Fillipponi (@ThePoniExpress) January 22, 2021
Canada has been with the Steelers for only this season, his first job as an assistant in the NFL, and the first pure QB coach the team has had in years.

The 48-year-old dazzled with the motion and innovation he put together at Pitt in his only season with the Panthers in 2016. The Panthers jumped nearly 12 points a game, averaging 40.9 during his one season as offensive coordinator.

Since his career started in 1994 as a graduate assistant at Indiana. It would be Canada’s tenth different offensive coordinator job and first in the pros.

But with that promotion, does that mean Canada will stay on as quarterback’s coach, or will the Steelers try to replace him with one of the candidates they reportedly interviewed for the OC job this week.

Those names are Hue Jackson and Pep Hamilton.

Jackson was the head coach for the then-Oakland Raiders in 2011, going 8-8 but still losing his job as a general manager who didn't hire him, Reggie McKenzie, took over control of the organization.

Following his first stint as a head coach, Jackson joined Marvin Lewis' staff with the Cincinnati Bengals, serving in a variety of roles in four seasons with the team. After he succeeded Jay Gruden as the team's offensive coordinator for two seasons, Jackson got hired as the head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

Even though the Browns didn't make any bones about attempting to bottom out organizationally and obtain draft capital, Jackson's two plus season stint as the head coach of the franchise was viewed as very unsuccessful. In 40 games as the head coach of the Browns, Jackson went 3-36-1, including guiding the team to the second 0-16 season in NFL history in 2017.

Jackson was fired by the Browns in late October of 2018, and, rather controversially, rejoined the Bengals coaching staff as a special assistant to Lewis during that same season. Since then, the 55-year-old has been out of the NFL.

Hamilton is currently the quarterbacks coach for the Los Angeles Charges and was previously the head coach and general manager for the DC Defenders in the XFL.

He is also the former offensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts and was instrumental in the development of quarterback Andrew Luck.

After being bounced from the playoffs in the Wild Card round, the Steelers fired now former offensive coordinator Randy Fichner.

https://www.radio.com/937thefan/sports/pittsburgh-steelers/report-99-9-a-done-deal-canada-is-next-steelers-oc

[hawaiiansteeler]

Jeremy Fowler
@JFowlerESPN

The #Steelers are finalizing a deal with Matt Canada to become their offensive coordinator, per source. Deal is considered imminent.

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1353798492574130177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1353798492574130177%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Cool, now where is the O line coach and new QB coach?? Here we go.

[86WARD]

Done and announced.

Canada promoted to offensive coordinator https://www.steelers.com/news/canada-promoted-to-offensive-coordinator

[Carolina Steelers]

Only issue I have hoping Canada stays around long enough to make a difference or get is scheme going over the past with him he never stays at a spot longer then 2 years. Hopefully being an NFL OC will make him stay around longer.


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[bendsteel]

I pray that his first order of business is to see Ben onto his life's next endeavor.....and wish him the best.

[Steeldude]

Now where is the new HC? Same junk next year.

[DesertSteel]

Now where is the new HC? Same junk next year.

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[hawaiiansteeler]

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[Blast Furnace]

I actually hope the hire was done by the FO and not Tomlin. If Tomlin has offensive input, then I fear our offence will be "offensive"! The FO needs to tell Tomlin to keep his hands off the offence to give Canada an opportunity to show what he's got and improve the Steelers O. Canada also needs to be examining his needs and compiling a list of priorities for the draft. Make no mistake about it, this draft needs to lean heavy on the offensive side of the ball!

[hawaiiansteeler]

Mark Kaboly
@MarkKaboly

I know it was limited what I was able to observe this season compared to regular years but from the far outside, it seemed like Matt Canada and Ben Roethlisberger had a good relationship. 7 spoke of him well when he was asked. 7 worked on footwork when OCMC asked.

https://twitter.com/MarkKaboly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetemb ed%7Ctwterm%5E1353830642031550472%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=

[Fire Goodell]

I just hope this wasn't a "Keep Ben Happy" move, or it's the same shit next year

[Steeldude]

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You’re a Browns’ fan. Why?

[86WARD]

Now where is the new HC? Same junk next year.

Maybe Canada can replace him next year...

[teegre]

I actually hope the hire was done by the FO and not Tomlin. If Tomlin has offensive input, then I fear our offence will be "offensive"! The FO needs to tell Tomlin to keep his hands off the offence to give Canada an opportunity to show what he's got and improve the Steelers O. Canada also needs to be examining his needs and compiling a list of priorities for the draft. Make no mistake about it, this draft needs to lean heavy on the offensive side of the ball!

That’s a new one. I’ve seen people complain about many things about Tomlin, but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say that Tomlin is messing with the offense. Really. Not sure how much “legs” this line of thinking has.

[DesertSteel]

You’re a Browns’ fan. Why?
No I'm just waiting to read one positive thing from you. Maybe you'd be happier as a Browns fan.

[Craic]

I have no problem with this promotion. Last year, we were all excited Canada was with us. What changed? It's not like he had control of the offense.

As for the defense, so what if Tomlin calls the plays? That's a very small part of the overall roll of a coordinator. He can be the best playcaller around, but if he can't coach his players during the week and prep them for the game, if he can't get all his assistants on the same page so the defense is working together at game time, then none of the plays called will work.

I've been critical of the defense in the past, but after seeing the defense rebuilt under Tomlin and Butler, I'm good with whatever way they spread the responsibilities. And no, I don't hold the D responsible for this year at all. Not with all the injuries at linebacker we suffered.

[Blast Furnace]

That’s a new one. I’ve seen people complain about many things about Tomlin, but I’m not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say that Tomlin is messing with the offense. Really. Not sure how much “legs” this line of thinking has.

Well, it's not out of the ordinary for a head coach to have an offensive or defensive philosophy he want his coordinators to follow and coach to. Tomlin never coached a 3-4 defense until he came here but he's been calling plays on the d side for years. Rumors about clashes with Lebeau were out there as well! Apparently he called the entire Cleveland game, you know, the one his defense gave up 48 points. Slow starts on offence? An ultra conservative coach like Tomlin could be the one forcing the "probe" style offence. I have no doubt Tomlin inputs his genius into the offence, do you?

[86WARD]

I have no problem with this promotion. Last year, we were all excited Canada was with us. What changed? It's not like he had control of the offense.

As for the defense, so what if Tomlin calls the plays? That's a very small part of the overall roll of a coordinator. He can be the best playcaller around, but if he can't coach his players during the week and prep them for the game, if he can't get all his assistants on the same page so the defense is working together at game time, then none of the plays called will work.

I've been critical of the defense in the past, but after seeing the defense rebuilt under Tomlin and Butler, I'm good with whatever way they spread the responsibilities. And no, I don't hold the D responsible for this year at all. Not with all the injuries at linebacker we suffered.

I like this change as well. I think any creativity at all in the 2020 offense came from Canada (or Ben on the fly).

My theory is that people want a fresh face (which Canada is). Canada is “tainted” because he’s been with the organization for a year and has Fichtner stink on him. So automatically, he’s going to suck. But in reality what they want but don’t want to admit is that they want a new QB (Lamar Jackson) and. A new OC (Andy Reid) and a new head coach (Belichick) or maybe just Ben to totally buy in to what Canada is going to be selling...which no one is convinced it will change.

Once you see that wrap around draw play as the OL takes one step back to run block: “Everyone should be fired, should’ve traded for Aaron Rodgers, Mike Tomlin sucks and on and on and on...

[teegre]

Well, it's not out of the ordinary for a head coach to have an offensive or defensive philosophy he want his coordinators to follow and coach to. Tomlin never coached a 3-4 defense until he came here but he's been calling plays on the d side for years. Rumors about clashes with Lebeau were out there as well! Apparently he called the entire Cleveland game, you know, the one his defense gave up 48 points. Slow starts on offence? An ultra conservative coach like Tomlin could be the one forcing the "probe" style offence. I have no doubt Tomlin inputs his genius into the offence, do you?

Belichick runs the defense in New England (no matter who the DC is); the same essentially goes for Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Likewise, it has been well-reported that Butler will "lose the reins" at halftime when his defense is laying an egg (as in: Tomlin takes over, makes halftime adjustments, and does not involve Butler in the process).

Why would Tomlin be so "controlling" you ask? Well, The Rooneys forced LeBeau on Tomlin, and they also promised Butler the DC job after LeBeau moved on.

As far as offense goes, Tomlin might have a philosophy ("running a RB into the ground"), but aside from that, there has been very little evidence/reports of him having much to do with any part of the offense (except for his penchant for seeing "something" in WRs). As far as OCs go, he was saddled with Bruce Arians, and forced to hire Todd Haley... and Fitchner was also a Rooney hire.

(NOTE: I find it extremely odd that Tomlin does not get to choose his own staff. I kind of get it when he was a rookie HC, but 14 years in... :noidea: .)

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Belichick runs the defense in New England (no matter who the DC is); the same essentially goes for Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Likewise, it has been well-reported that Butler will "lose the reins" at halftime when his defense is laying an egg (as in: Tomlin takes over, makes halftime adjustments, and does not involve Butler in the process).

Why would Tomlin be so "controlling" you ask? Well, The Rooneys forced LeBeau on Tomlin, and they also promised Butler the DC job after LeBeau moved on.

As far as offense goes, Tomlin might have a philosophy ("running a RB into the ground"), but aside from that, there has been very little evidence/reports of him having much to do with any part of the offense (except for his penchant for seeing "something" in WRs). As far as OCs go, he was saddled with Bruce Arians, and forced to hire Todd Haley... and Fitchner was also a Rooney hire.

(NOTE: I find it extremely odd that Tomlin does not get to choose his own staff. I kind of get it when he was a rookie HC, but 14 years in... :noidea: .)

Normally I agree with you but... Fichtner was a Tomlin hire. That's his buddy from Arkansas St.

Also I think it was a fantastic hire.
Fichtner's mandate was to improve the red zone offense and keep Ben from getting hit. Fichtner did both. The two years Ben was healthy the Steelers were 1st and 5th in red zone TD %, and the Steelers scored the 2nd and 4th most points in Ben's career.

Fichtner is an excellent OC. Ben's deep ball is terrible now and it limits the playcalling. The next OC will be worse not better.

People (not you) seem to think Ben is capable of a 500+ point season like P Manning or Brees but he's shown no evidence of that. He needs to go back to being a game manager and I doubt Tomlin will make him. It is what it is.

[DesertSteel]

Normally I agree with you but... Fichtner was a Tomlin hire. That's his buddy from Arkansas St.

Also I think it was a fantastic hire.
Fichtner's mandate was to improve the red zone offense and keep Ben from getting hit. Fichtner did both. The two years Ben was healthy the Steelers were 1st and 5th in red zone TD %, and the Steelers scored the 2nd and 4th most points in Ben's career.

Fichtner is an excellent OC. Ben's deep ball is terrible now and it limits the playcalling. The next OC will be worse not better.

People (not you) seem to think Ben is capable of a 500+ point season like P Manning or Brees but he's shown no evidence of that. He needs to go back to being a game manager and I doubt Tomlin will make him. It is what it is.
Randy? Is that you?

[CV1]

I’m not overly concerned with Canada... (Insert pun) yet.

He will likely have a year and slim chance of two with Ben as the play caller.

If there is a preseason, I’ll hold my judgement til then, especially with the addition of a new’ish system.

We all will see what gets changed rather early with Rudy and Haskins battling it out both in a new system... and in the last game see if Ben can adjust and or tolerate the change.


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[teegre]

Normally I agree with you but... Fichtner was a Tomlin hire. That's his buddy from Arkansas St.

I learned my "one new thing" for today. :nod:

[Mojouw]

Canada looks a bit better each NFL wide OC hire. I'm all for fresh blood and new faces. But a surprising # of hires that never called plays.

What is a "passing game coordinator" anyways?

[BlackAndGold]

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[Born2Steel]

1355246957141307398

Must be why the Steelers averaged 29 points and put 12 in the win column.

[Mojouw]

Must be why the Steelers averaged 29 points and put 12 in the win column.

Just because it's easy to prepare for doesn't mean you can stop it.

I don't care about complicated. I do want to efficient and effective.

[NCSteeler]

Must be why the Steelers averaged 29 points and put 12 in the win column.When this team hit the part of the schedule with better competition, they looked terrible. Early schedule was alot of lousy teams and some we barely got by.

I'd also say that it takes most new offenses several games to be caught up with .

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[Born2Steel]

1355246957141307398

Multiple players? Name them so that next season we can try harder to make the game more fun for them. Don't want to bore them with 'easy'.

[Lloydwoodsonjr]

Out of curiosity how many people think that Roethlisberger is capable of putting up 500 points in a season but the OC have held him back?

[Born2Steel]

When this team hit the part of the schedule with better competition, they looked terrible. Early schedule was alot of lousy teams and some we barely got by.

I'd also say that it takes most new offenses several games to be caught up with .

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The average dropped to 26pts.

[hawaiiansteeler]

If you believe Art Rooney II, Matt Canada will have one primary job in 2021

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2021/2/16/22285586/if-you-believe-art-rooney-ii-matt-canada-will-have-one-primary-job-in-2021-steelers-run-game-nfl

[bendsteel]

In reading between the lines...Art TOASTED Fichner! Zero questionas to where he(correctly) placed blame for our offensive shit show last season. Let's see if any other team is stupid enough to pick him up....doubtful.

[86WARD]

So this article says Canada’s offense is complex but the last article said his offense was simple?

Maybe the offense is complex but the language is simple?

[Steeldude]

No I'm just waiting to read one positive thing from you. Maybe you'd be happier as a Browns fan.

We cannot all be mindless lemmings. You are content with mediocrity and poor play. You're the type of person who doesn't want better.

Maybe you would be happier as a Browns fan. In your mind they are great because you would be told they are great.

[hawaiiansteeler]

We cannot all be mindless lemmings. You are content with mediocrity and poor play. You're the type of person who doesn't want better.


we aren't mindless lemmings, we're not content with mediocrity and poor play and we do want better.

it's just that we have all found that constant negativity doesn't do any good, the Rooneys won't return our texts and listen to a damn word we say.

so why not just sit back and enjoy your Pittsburgh Steelers and sprinkle in some positive comments about your favorite team every once in awhile?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

we aren't mindless lemmings, we're not content with mediocrity and poor play and we do want better.

it's just that we have all found that constant negativity doesn't do any good, the Rooneys won't return our texts and listen to a damn word we say.

so why not just sit back and enjoy your Pittsburgh Steelers and sprinkle in some positive comments about your favorite team every once in awhile?

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[hawaiiansteeler]

Lack of Aggressiveness on Offense

Stat Line: Where are the passes over the middle?

I get it. Matt Canada doesn’t want to show too much in a meaningless preseason game, but does that mean the Steelers can’t attack the middle of the field in the passing game? A lot of the passes on Thursday night were just check downs or the Randy Fichtner style quick hitting passes. It is early, but I would love to see the offense start being more aggressive down the middle of the field, especially in the preseason.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2021/8/6/22611307/8-winners-and-3-losers-after-the-steelers-16-3-win-over-the-cowboys-pressley-harvin-ulysees-gilbert

[HollywoodSteel]

Lack of Aggressiveness on Offense

Stat Line: Where are the passes over the middle?

I get it. Matt Canada doesn’t want to show too much in a meaningless preseason game, but does that mean the Steelers can’t attack the middle of the field in the passing game? A lot of the passes on Thursday night were just check downs or the Randy Fichtner style quick hitting passes. It is early, but I would love to see the offense start being more aggressive down the middle of the field, especially in the preseason.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2021/8/6/22611307/8-winners-and-3-losers-after-the-steelers-16-3-win-over-the-cowboys-pressley-harvin-ulysees-gilbert

I had the same thoughts. Especially when Haskins was in there. We know he has no issues with arm strength. Was it actually an issue with play calling? Receivers not getting open? Or a QB competition where no one wants to risk a pick on their resume from throwing into tight windows?

[86WARD]

It was the first preseason game…

[Edman]

IMO, As long as #7 is under center, don't count on this offense changing too much in 2021.

[HollywoodSteel]

It was the first preseason game…

Of course. And all analysis should be taken with that HUGE Boulder of salt. Also Ben wasn’t in there and we have no idea what the game plan would be for him.

But when you have a competition for the #2 QB you’d want to try some stuff out to test them both. Historically Rudolph has had two gears: check down, and deep down the sidelines. I’d want to see him try to hit more crossing routes in fairly tight windows or find the soft spot in the zone for more than 10 yards down the field. And after seeing Haskins in Dr. Check Down mode as well, I’d be looking to see the same stuff from him.

That’s why my question is, was it really the play calling? Or were the QBs playing it safe so as not to potentially look worse than the other? Is Haskins with his stronger arm afraid to use it? Which just makes him a Rudolph clone with worse footwork.

Again, huge caveat that it was just the first preseason game, but these are the things we are going to reasonably discuss as we go.

[CV1]

I’d rather have the league believe the Steelers are no different than they were under sphincter, and then blow the doors off in surprise under Canada’s new system.

Imagine the offense is just so good we go 4-0 to start the year… beating Buffalo week one and Green Bay week 4?


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[Born2Steel]

All that motion pre-snap seemed to be for finding the quickest open WR to get the ball to. I didn't see anything special that isn't already programmed into Ben's 18 year QB mind in that 1st preseason scrimmage. I did like that Canada's run game was able to pick up a couple short yardage 1st downs, even though everybody knew the run was coming. That was an improvement. Hopefully he can find a way to make McFarland/Samuels look like NFL caliber RBs for scrimmage #2. Ballage made them both look silly.

[HollywoodSteel]

All that motion pre-snap seemed to be for finding the quickest open WR to get the ball to. I didn't see anything special that isn't already programmed into Ben's 18 year QB mind in that 1st preseason scrimmage. I did like that Canada's run game was able to pick up a couple short yardage 1st downs, even though everybody knew the run was coming. That was an improvement. Hopefully he can find a way to make McFarland/Samuels look like NFL caliber RBs for scrimmage #2. Ballage made them both look silly.

I think the writing is on the wall for Samuels. He has no role on this team. He was supposedly good at catching out of the backfield, but we just drafted a guy in the first round who is way better at that than he is.

I don’t know how many RBs we keep on the active roster, but I see Harris, McFarland, Ballage, and maybe Snell. Plus Watt at FB. I don’t see how Samuels stays.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I think the writing is on the wall for Samuels. He has no role on this team. He was supposedly good at catching out of the backfield, but we just drafted a guy in the first round who is way better at that than he is.

I don’t know how many RBs we keep on the active roster, but I see Harris, McFarland, Ballage, and maybe Snell. Plus Watt at FB. I don’t see how Samuels stays.

Maybe you are correct about Samuels. But do you happen to know who the OC was at NC State when Samuels played there?

[86WARD]

I’d keep Samuels over Snell.

[HollywoodSteel]

I’d keep Samuels over Snell.

Because Ben is comfortable with him on the sideline? ;)

Sorry, I couldn’t resist the cross- thread callback. :)

[86WARD]

Probably because Ben is more comfortable that he’s be productive. Lol.