Our window is still open, just barely. 2021 is the year it slams shut.

[Six Rings]

Thanks to a very easy schedule and Ben's return, the Steelers should make the playoffs. Therefore the window is open, and super bowl appearance is a possibility. I don't buy these 7-9 to 8-8 picks by the media for this coming season. I See 9-7 to 10-6.

However come 2021, we've got serious issues on the OL

Villanueva will be 32 in September, and he had a very poor 2019 getting flagged often and giving up sacks. No doubt the man's a hero, but his days of playing left tackle are almost over. More problematic is he's the lone proven player on the team capable of playing the Left Tackle position to the level the offense needs. What happens if he departs in free agency. Given he'll be 33 in Sept 202, I just can't see the Steelers offering him a three-year deal at the price he will be seeking. This could be his last year in Pittsburgh.

Equally challenging will be replacing Pouncey, who also had a down year. I didn't see many of his trademark pulls in 2019, I saw him struggle to generate holes and getting pushed backward too often. Pouncey has said he's retiring when Ben is retiring. Decastro is still going strong, but he's getting up there in age. Wisniewski, age 31 is really a journeyman type of starter. A temporary patch solution for 1-3 seasons at most.

Suddenly the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault. In the past 7 drafts, only one OL player was taken on day one or two ( First three rounds ) , and he's still a backup.

It won't matter who is at Quarterback if the OL, who played poorly as a group goes from bad to worse.

I don't know the Steelers were offered to trade Ju-Ju. Maybe they should have taken that deal, as he's likely a goner next year in free agency. A high 2nd or 1st for Ju-Ju...should have taken that deal and picked a Tackle.

[polamalubeast]

One year at a time .... The roster in the NFL can change every year, the same goes for strengths and weaknesses of a team .... 2020 is the only thing that matter right now .... I don't care about 2021.

[Mojouw]

Here we go again. Another round of patented Six Rings hot diarrhea nonsense.

2021 OL: Chuks/Fieler/Draft Pick/Decastro/Banner with Dotson as the top interior reserve and Gray as the Swing tackle.

Since all you’re doing is imagining scenarios; it is just as easy to be positive instead of your unique brand of stupid and doom and gloom.

[polamalubeast]

The NFL is not baseball where you need 4-5 years to become a true contender even if your management is great….Before 2017,the 49ers had nothing in their roster and 2 years later,they almost win the super bowl.Don't worry about the future, just focus on the present otherwise we will go crazy

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Here we go again. Another round of patented Six Rings hot diarrhea nonsense.

2021 OL: Chuks/Fieler/Draft Pick/Decastro/Banner with Dotson as the top interior reserve and Gray as the Swing tackle.

Since all you’re doing is imagining scenarios; it is just as easy to be positive instead of your unique brand of stupid and doom and gloom.

I actually think Feiler is gonna go Chris Hubbard and move on in 2021. They will put a decent offer to Banner and he will play RT, but if he doesn't, then Gray can play RT.

My opinion is the O line will look like Okorafor/Dotston/Pouncey/DeCastro/Banner …..top reserves Wisneiwski/Gray, Draft pick(Landon Dickerson, Ala) and Jarron Jones. Hey, wasn't there a thread last year about windows being closed?

[teegre]

A beaver is walking through the woods, when he comes to a humongous river. He turns to a friend and says, “Dam.”

[pczach]

Thanks to a very easy schedule and Ben's return, the Steelers should make the playoffs. Therefore the window is open, and super bowl appearance is a possibility. I don't buy these 7-9 to 8-8 picks by the media for this coming season. I See 9-7 to 10-6.

However come 2021, we've got serious issues on the OL

Villanueva will be 32 in September, and he had a very poor 2019 getting flagged often and giving up sacks. No doubt the man's a hero, but his days of playing left tackle are almost over. More problematic is he's the lone proven player on the team capable of playing the Left Tackle position to the level the offense needs. What happens if he departs in free agency. Given he'll be 33 in Sept 202, I just can't see the Steelers offering him a three-year deal at the price he will be seeking. This could be his last year in Pittsburgh.

Equally challenging will be replacing Pouncey, who also had a down year. I didn't see many of his trademark pulls in 2019, I saw him struggle to generate holes and getting pushed backward too often. Pouncey has said he's retiring when Ben is retiring. Decastro is still going strong, but he's getting up there in age. Wisniewski, age 31 is really a journeyman type of starter. A temporary patch solution for 1-3 seasons at most.

Suddenly the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault. In the past 7 drafts, only one OL player was taken on day one or two ( First three rounds ) , and he's still a backup.

It won't matter who is at Quarterback if the OL, who played poorly as a group goes from bad to worse.

I don't know the Steelers were offered to trade Ju-Ju. Maybe they should have taken that deal, as he's likely a goner next year in free agency. A high 2nd or 1st for Ju-Ju...should have taken that deal and picked a Tackle.


I love how you say "the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault." That's called NFL football. They have been busy building up the defense and replacing a stud ILB that suffered a spinal injury, and an All-Pro WR that lost his mind. Very rarely is a team able to address all needs. They draft and they sign free agents, but there is a salary cap so it is nearly impossible to have a winning team and talented roster....and be able to pay everyone.

So much for the Rooney family being cheap.....

Now your big idea was to trade JuJu to get a high draft pick so they can draft a tackle???

That would have created a hole at WR. Do you in any way understand that?

This is how NFL football works. This isn't like college where you can recruit players at a position of need with no financial restrictions and be 4-deep at many positions on the team.

Let's see what happens in 2020 first. The roster isn't even set. They can still sign players that will be cut from other teams for financial reasons during the preseason. The story of this season hasn't even been written, and you're already trying write next year's story. You have no clue what is going to happen between now and then.

[Mojouw]

I actually think Feiler is gonna go Chris Hubbard and move on in 2021. They will put a decent offer to Banner and he will play RT, but if he doesn't, then Gray can play RT.

My opinion is the O line will look like Okorafor/Dotston/Pouncey/DeCastro/Banner …..top reserves Wisneiwski/Gray, Draft pick(Landon Dickerson, Ala) and Jarron Jones. Hey, wasn't there a thread last year about windows being closed?

That makes even more sense than my version. But really what I was going at was this is all nonsense.

And, yes, we had this thread and exact same conversation before.

[fansince'76]

A beaver is walking through the woods, when he comes to a humongous river. He turns to a friend and says, “Dam.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ViWK4gsJdo

:chuckle:

[polamalubeast]

Thanks to a very easy schedule and Ben's return, the Steelers should make the playoffs. Therefore the window is open, and super bowl appearance is a possibility. I don't buy these 7-9 to 8-8 picks by the media for this coming season. I See 9-7 to 10-6.

However come 2021, we've got serious issues on the OL

Villanueva will be 32 in September, and he had a very poor 2019 getting flagged often and giving up sacks. No doubt the man's a hero, but his days of playing left tackle are almost over. More problematic is he's the lone proven player on the team capable of playing the Left Tackle position to the level the offense needs. What happens if he departs in free agency. Given he'll be 33 in Sept 202, I just can't see the Steelers offering him a three-year deal at the price he will be seeking. This could be his last year in Pittsburgh.

Equally challenging will be replacing Pouncey, who also had a down year. I didn't see many of his trademark pulls in 2019, I saw him struggle to generate holes and getting pushed backward too often. Pouncey has said he's retiring when Ben is retiring. Decastro is still going strong, but he's getting up there in age. Wisniewski, age 31 is really a journeyman type of starter. A temporary patch solution for 1-3 seasons at most.

Suddenly the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault. In the past 7 drafts, only one OL player was taken on day one or two ( First three rounds ) , and he's still a backup.

It won't matter who is at Quarterback if the OL, who played poorly as a group goes from bad to worse.

I don't know the Steelers were offered to trade Ju-Ju. Maybe they should have taken that deal, as he's likely a goner next year in free agency. A high 2nd or 1st for Ju-Ju...should have taken that deal and picked a Tackle.

If Ben has a great 2020 season and our defense is elite, will the window be closed for 2021?

We are talking about the window every year ... We must focus on the present year instead of being worried about the future ... The steelers have not had a losing season since 2003 but every year some are worried about the future even if in the NFL, you can bounce back very quickly if the management is good....

[hawaiiansteeler]

A beaver is walking through the woods, when he comes to a humongous river. He turns to a friend and says, “Dam.”

remember when everyone used to post beaver pics all the time? :thumbsup:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSZ4D5x2aL-WwsMR9TxuEQPr-mNJ1LQIwQ3yRrdl7-LEKMdLALu&usqp=CAU

[oneforthetoe]

While I agree our offensive line is not likely to be as good as is was a few years ago, I feel a lot better about it than I did before free agency and the draft. Wisinewski is a journeyman, but a very adept one whether he is starting or subbing. I also very much like Dotson. We clearly need to look to Pouncy's replacement but I think otherwise we will be ok.

[teegre]

remember when everyone used to post beaver pics all the time? :thumbsup:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSZ4D5x2aL-WwsMR9TxuEQPr-mNJ1LQIwQ3yRrdl7-LEKMdLALu&usqp=CAU

Thankfully, we have a member who keeps starting beaver threads.

[tube517]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DiligentBothAmethystinepython-max-1mb.gif

[pczach]

Another shitty thread about the incompetence of the Steelers organization. Call me surprised.


https://media.giphy.com/media/LNDMjtqYayNtC/giphy.gif

[teegre]

A beaver walks into a bar and asks, “Is the bar tender here?”

[pczach]

What's a beaver's favorite snack?

Wood chips

[hawaiiansteeler]

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.196030991.8702/st,small,507x507-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.jpg

[pczach]

As I sat there scratching my ass and spying on my neighbor washing her beaver, one thing crossed my mind.

We have some really weird pets in my neighborhood.

[teegre]

As I sat there scratching my ass and spying on my neighbor washing her beaver, one thing crossed my mind.

We have some really weird pets in my neighborhood.

:toofunny:

[Hawkman]

So glad this thread turned into comedy. I was all set to be really annoyed.

[Rotorhead]

Wasn’t it you SixRings, who started 20 threads about how the Steelers window was closed and needed a fire sale if they were ever going to have a chance ever again, now they have a shot this season? Make up your mind man!

[Six Rings]

Here we go again. Another round of patented Six Rings hot diarrhea nonsense.

2021 OL: Chuks/Fieler/Draft Pick/Decastro/Banner with Dotson as the top interior reserve and Gray as the Swing tackle.

Since all you’re doing is imagining scenarios; it is just as easy to be positive instead of your unique brand of stupid and doom and gloom.

It's becoming apparent to me that you're just a joe average fan, " Homer " which is fine. This isn't nonsense, it's a major problem for 2021. In 2020, I think we will have a winning season.


The line you suggested would SUCK. Chucks wasn't close to beating out Fieler for the Right Tackle job last camp. The competiton was over in 2 weeks. We have no center. Well we had Finney, he's gone. DeCastro is great but aging....and Banner is way to slow to play left tackle. The fact that you put Banner at Left Tackle tells me you don't know what it takes to play left tackle. Dude, that is stupid. He's much better off at Right Tackle. The depth is an unproven rookie and a 7th round pick who didn't even dress last year. Ladies and Gentleman the Pittsburgh Steelers 2021 Offensive lineman going in to the 2021 draft.


Like I said in the past seven draft we pick zero OL in round one and two, and just one player in round three. The OL starts almost half the offense. It was ignored. Age is upon us, and you bet your rear end the Steelers won't sign an impact-free agent at OL. One thing I forget to say. Losing Munchak as the OL coach hurt the team. He could plug and play back ups, and get them to perform to a point where they were not major liabilities.

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Another shitty thread about the incompetence of the Steelers organization. Call me surprised.


https://media.giphy.com/media/LNDMjtqYayNtC/giphy.gif


For fun I might archive some threads for next year to say I told you so. Just let me know how you like your crow. Perhaps I didn't get the rose colored glasses when joining this forum. Some of you guys never take them off.

[polamalubeast]

focus on 2020....

[polamalubeast]

For fun I might archive some threads for next year to say I told you so. Just let me know how you like your crow. Perhaps I didn't get the rose colored glasses when joining this forum. Some of you guys never take them off.

If you want, I can show a comment that you were very wrong on the Tomlin thread that you created in January on Sean Payton …

Just look at this(post 32)….


Peyton is 8-6 in the playoffs, better than Tomlin's 8-7...and look for Peyton to add to his win total this year. Your right, the Saints have had some bad teams. Tomlin's teams on average had more talent. I can't recall the last team that had four all pros that finished 8-8.

http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/31516-Mike-Tomlin-and-Ben-and-the-playoffs-Some-interesting-numbers/page2

.Sean Payton has now the same record in the playoffs that Tomlin…

For the 4 all-pro, how many of his teams had terrible QB in it?

[43Hitman]

I'm curious, what is everyone going to do when the window does shut? Choose another team? A lot of guys bitch and moan the whole year about this and that, and we're a pretty good team. So I'll ask again, what the hell are y'all going to do when they are really bad?


To me, it just means I get to watch them rebuild a team and that's one of my favorite parts of being a fan. Sure I love the Superbowl victories, but I kind of like all the work being done to get there a little more. Because when you look back on how those teams were built and what decisions they made throughout the year(s), its always the little things that make the difference. I just think the media and fans in general put way to much emphasis on the "SB Window".

[fansince'76]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkzE23pyME4

[polamalubeast]

I'm curious, what is everyone going to do when the window does shut? Choose another team? A lot of guys bitch and moan the whole year about this and that, and we're a pretty good team. So I'll ask again, what the hell are y'all going to do when they are really bad?


To me, it just means I get to watch them rebuild a team and that's one of my favorite parts of being a fan. Sure I love the Superbowl victories, but I kind of like all the work being done to get there a little more. Because when you look back on how those teams were built and what decisions they made throughout the year(s), its always the little things that make the difference. I just think the media and fans in general put way to much emphasis on the "SB Window".

100% agree

[polamalubeast]

In the last 5 decades the steelers had their second worst decade since the 1970s in the 2010s but they still had the 3rd best record in the NFL in this decade .... Some are too spoiled and unable to experience bad times .... Teams like the Chiefs had to wait 50 long years before participating and winning the super bowl and in 2018, they had their first game at home in the AFC title game in their history and it was at this time only their 2nd AFC title game since 1970

For some, 10 years without a super bowl or 1 AFC title games in 10 years is too painful and frustrating for them!

I have learned over time that we have to live in the moment instead of being worried about the future!

[pczach]

For fun I might archive some threads for next year to say I told you so. Just let me know how you like your crow. Perhaps I didn't get the rose colored glasses when joining this forum. Some of you guys never take them off.


You don't have to archive anything moron. The message board will still be here and still have every thread that happens in that time.

We're all shaking in our boots with your threats to "archive some threads". :rofl2:

Maybe I should put together a package of your most idiotic posts that can be gathered from your embarrassingly moronic catalog of Six Rings favorites. I'm not sure the message board has a capacity for that much raw sewage in one post, so that could be an issue. The administrator may need to be contacted to see if it is even possible.

We have the last 50 years of the franchise to show that they do it as good or better than anyone ever has. Suck on that.

We've already been going over all your crappy threads with wrong information. Or seeing you cut/paste from elsewhere and claim it as your own. You did it in your first post of this thread. Fourth paragraph, last two sentences. You can see the different font and size. It came from somewhere else, yet you claim it as your own when you didn't type it up from your own brain with your own thoughts.

But don't worry, we are all keeping track of all your dumbass claims, theories, accusations, misinformation, and mountains of threads started by you do disparage the Steelers ownership, organization, head coach, and anything else Steelers related that chaffs your ass. You've already been identified as a clown because nobody can have a discussion with you. You say something, then people show you with facts that what you are claiming is incorrect....and you just pretend that evidence to show that you are wrong doesn't exist.

You also refuse to even address posts that give real answers to your questions. You ignore all the comments that refute what you say, and move on to other commentary while declaring victory in the argument. Everyone is saying you are wrong. The facts and the links to those facts say that you are wrong. Then you get all butt hurt, abandon that thread where you are getting pummeled, and just start another negative thread.

Here's a homework assignment for you. Evaluate what the Steelers have done from1970-2020 as a franchise. That's a 50 year span of NFL history. Compare what the Steelers have done as an organization to every other NFL franchise. Then come back here and try to show us how incompetent and inferior they have been to other franchises.

We will all be waiting for you to lay it all out for us.

[pczach]

I'm curious, what is everyone going to do when the window does shut? Choose another team? A lot of guys bitch and moan the whole year about this and that, and we're a pretty good team. So I'll ask again, what the hell are y'all going to do when they are really bad?


To me, it just means I get to watch them rebuild a team and that's one of my favorite parts of being a fan. Sure I love the Superbowl victories, but I kind of like all the work being done to get there a little more. Because when you look back on how those teams were built and what decisions they made throughout the year(s), its always the little things that make the difference. I just think the media and fans in general put way to much emphasis on the "SB Window".



Great post.

You are a reasonable fan. We all want to win every year, but understand that you can't win every year.

We are all fortunate to love and root for an NFL franchise that has been so successful. It's just that some of those fans aren't smart enough to know how lucky they have been, or are just never happy unless they are unhappy.

[hawaiiansteeler]

For fun I might archive some threads for next year to say I told you so.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS-zOammPz-E6oPAltVrwDJ_3pKCV1D6XBkeE2-i_qo-1g_xyS4&usqp=CAU

[Mojouw]

Well, it took a minute but that’s some serious galaxy brain posts getting rolled out.

There’s just a level of stupid you can’t argue with.

Like if you somehow manage to read an OL listed from LEFT to RIGHT as being listed as RIGHT to LEFT —- well than what can anyone do?

[polamalubeast]

Well, it took a minute but that’s some serious galaxy brain posts getting rolled out.

There’s just a level of stupid you can’t argue with.

Like if you somehow manage to read an OL listed from LEFT to RIGHT as being listed as RIGHT to LEFT —- well than what can anyone do?



:toofunny::toofunny:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Well, it took a minute but that’s some serious galaxy brain posts getting rolled out.

There’s just a level of stupid you can’t argue with.

Like if you somehow manage to read an OL listed from LEFT to RIGHT as being listed as RIGHT to LEFT —- well than what can anyone do?

:rofl: I agree and love the reference. But maybe I'll hold out a bit of possibility that its dyslexia or some other reading issue that cant decipher left from right.

Still, this thread has it all. Knee jerk gloom and doom, inability to read, some form of Hee-Haw gif and ...Beavers! If we can only get some suddenness and glide, some 1492 reference and maybe some Angrychair retroactive hate added to this....it would bring the generations of Steeler message boards full circle.

[Hawkman]

It's becoming apparent to me that you're just a joe average fan, " Homer " which is fine. This isn't nonsense, it's a major problem for 2021. In 2020, I think we will have a winning season.


The line you suggested would SUCK. Chucks wasn't close to beating out Fieler for the Right Tackle job last camp. The competiton was over in 2 weeks. We have no center. Well we had Finney, he's gone. DeCastro is great but aging....and Banner is way to slow to play left tackle. The fact that you put Banner at Left Tackle tells me you don't know what it takes to play left tackle. Dude, that is stupid. He's much better off at Right Tackle. The depth is an unproven rookie and a 7th round pick who didn't even dress last year. Ladies and Gentleman the Pittsburgh Steelers 2021 Offensive lineman going in to the 2021 draft.


Like I said in the past seven draft we pick zero OL in round one and two, and just one player in round three. The OL starts almost half the offense. It was ignored. Age is upon us, and you bet your rear end the Steelers won't sign an impact-free agent at OL. One thing I forget to say. Losing Munchak as the OL coach hurt the team. He could plug and play back ups, and get them to perform to a point where they were not major liabilities.

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For fun I might archive some threads for next year to say I told you so. Just let me know how you like your crow. Perhaps I didn't get the rose colored glasses when joining this forum. Some of you guys never take them off.

Do you even cheer FOR the Steelers.

[teegre]

A troll starts a thread on a Steelers forum, asking whether the Steelers are doomed because of Tomlin. And, because they should have traded JuJu. And, because the troll doesn’t know left from right. Getting angry about not getting “realistic” replies about what to do, the troll asks if Steelers fans are concerned or ashamed.

To which, the beaver replies, “Gnaw.”

[polamalubeast]

It's rock bottom when you think you know everything but after you don't know left from right….:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:

[hawaiiansteeler]

A troll starts a thread on a Steelers forum, asking whether the Steelers are doomed because of Tomlin. And, because they should have traded JuJu. And, because the troll doesn’t know left from right. Getting angry about not getting “realistic” replies about what to do, the troll asks if Steelers fans are concerned or ashamed.

To which, the beaver replies, “Gnaw.”

https://i.imgur.com/11Rf3L4.png

[Steeler-in-west]

The Rookie QB’s made the O line look bad, they held the ball too long, didn’t know how to use their blockers in pass protection, also their poor pass play allowed defenses to load up against the run and made it seem like our o line couldn’t open up holes for the RB. You have to put a big asterisk on last season because of the QB play. This year is the year to see how the o line performs - and all indications are Ben is more healthy than he’s been in the last 2-3 years.

[fansince'76]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqNLrMLZvB8

:chuckle:

[pczach]

A troll starts a thread on a Steelers forum, asking whether the Steelers are doomed because of Tomlin. And, because they should have traded JuJu. And, because the troll doesn’t know left from right. Getting angry about not getting “realistic” replies about what to do, the troll asks if Steelers fans are concerned or ashamed.

To which, the beaver replies, “Gnaw.”


:chuckle:


I have to admit. Six Rings is a beaver factory!

[86WARD]

Can the window be slammed on this post?

[DesertSteel]

Here we go again. Another round of patented Six Rings hot diarrhea nonsense.
Yeah I read the thread title and immediately knew who it was.

[pczach]

Six Rings is very old and has experienced things and understands things in a way that the rest of us never can. In honor of that, I think everyone will appreciate this story I found:

An 80-year-old man went to his doctor for his annual check-up. The doctor asks him how he's feeling. The 80-year-old says, "I've never felt better. I now have a 20 year-old bride who is pregnant with my child. What do you think about that?"

The doctor considers his question for a minute and then begins. "I have an older friend, much like you, who is an avid trophy hunter and never misses a season. One day, when he was going out hunting, he was in a bit of a hurry and accidentally picked up his walking cane instead of his gun. When he got to the creek, he saw a prime beaver sitting beside the stream of water. He raised his cane and went 'bang, bang'. Suddenly, two shots rang out and the beaver fell over dead. What do you think of that?"

The 80-year-old said, "I'd say somebody else pumped a couple of rounds into that beaver."

The doctor replied, "My point exactly."

[Born2Steel]

Thanks to a very easy schedule and Ben's return, the Steelers should make the playoffs. Therefore the window is open, and super bowl appearance is a possibility. I don't buy these 7-9 to 8-8 picks by the media for this coming season. I See 9-7 to 10-6.

However come 2021, we've got serious issues on the OL

Villanueva will be 32 in September, and he had a very poor 2019 getting flagged often and giving up sacks. No doubt the man's a hero, but his days of playing left tackle are almost over. More problematic is he's the lone proven player on the team capable of playing the Left Tackle position to the level the offense needs. What happens if he departs in free agency. Given he'll be 33 in Sept 202, I just can't see the Steelers offering him a three-year deal at the price he will be seeking. This could be his last year in Pittsburgh.

Equally challenging will be replacing Pouncey, who also had a down year. I didn't see many of his trademark pulls in 2019, I saw him struggle to generate holes and getting pushed backward too often. Pouncey has said he's retiring when Ben is retiring. Decastro is still going strong, but he's getting up there in age. Wisniewski, age 31 is really a journeyman type of starter. A temporary patch solution for 1-3 seasons at most.

Suddenly the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault. In the past 7 drafts, only one OL player was taken on day one or two ( First three rounds ) , and he's still a backup.

It won't matter who is at Quarterback if the OL, who played poorly as a group goes from bad to worse.

I don't know the Steelers were offered to trade Ju-Ju. Maybe they should have taken that deal, as he's likely a goner next year in free agency. A high 2nd or 1st for Ju-Ju...should have taken that deal and picked a Tackle.

Curious...a left tackle or a right tackle? Who would YOU have taken for this 1st/2nd round tackle pick?

Trading JuJu, moving Wash to the slot and putting rookie Claypool at the Z, leaving Johnson to play the X and Ebron to be the Y. IF this gains a franchise LT, I may be ok with this. However, I never trade away a sure thing(JuJu) for a maybe(draft pick).

[Mojouw]

Curious...a left tackle or a right tackle? Who would YOU have taken for this 1st/2nd round tackle pick?

Trading JuJu, moving Wash to the slot and putting rookie Claypool at the Z, leaving Johnson to play the X and Ebron to be the Y. IF this gains a franchise LT, I may be ok with this. However, I never trade away a sure thing(JuJu) for a maybe(draft pick).

If you trade JUJU you’re looking at the Eagles, Vikings, or Niners picks. So, that means Wilson or Cleveland as your OT options.

Are either of those two a franchise LT? I don’t know. But that’s the alternative reality starting point.

[cold-hard-steel]

https://youtu.be/PVRD7A7PiG4

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https://youtu.be/PVRD7A7PiG4 LOL !!!!!

[teegre]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqNLrMLZvB8

:chuckle:

Everyone go home for the day.

Nothing is topping this. :applaudit:

[Born2Steel]

If you trade JUJU you’re looking at the Eagles, Vikings, or Niners picks. So, that means Wilson or Cleveland as your OT options.

Are either of those two a franchise LT? I don’t know. But that’s the alternative reality starting point.

And that's the rub. No way to know if either will turn out to be worth the trade or any trade for a year or 3. I know what I have with JuJu, therefore he is my sure thing. I don't make that trade this year but for conversation it's worth considering.

2021 will see the Steelers have to make a few tough choices though. Just on the offensive side of the ball the FA list starts with AV, Feiler, JuJu, Conner, McDonald, Banner, and Switzer. If I make the trade this offseason for a franchise LT moving forward is that worth some or all of these FAs? The roster is set today to pay Banner to play RT, Snell to take the place of Conner, and Ebron to possibly take over TE1. You can see Wash moving to the slot WR1 role and Switzer just continue his role at his cost. BUT, there are names just as big on the defensive side that will make ALL FA moves difficult to predict or even feel good about. Some starters for the 2020 Steelers will not be with the team in 2021. Planning ahead is just a worthwhile conversation IMO, even though none of us can predict or control any of it.

I don't think that by any means does any "window slam shut" in 2021, but significant changes are coming. How this plays out will be very difficult to watch for some.

[polamalubeast]

A team doesn't need an franchise LT... It's good if you have one, but the most important thing is that this player is not horrible.

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BTW the rumor on JuJu was false.

[Born2Steel]

A team doesn't need an franchise LT... It's good if you have one, but the most important thing is that this player is not horrible.

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BTW the rumor on JuJu was false.

Franchise LT was just an example of who would be traded for. Not the point of the post at all.

[Mojouw]

And that's the rub. No way to know if either will turn out to be worth the trade or any trade for a year or 3. I know what I have with JuJu, therefore he is my sure thing. I don't make that trade this year but for conversation it's worth considering.

2021 will see the Steelers have to make a few tough choices though. Just on the offensive side of the ball the FA list starts with AV, Feiler, JuJu, Conner, McDonald, Banner, and Switzer. If I make the trade this offseason for a franchise LT moving forward is that worth some or all of these FAs? The roster is set today to pay Banner to play RT, Snell to take the place of Conner, and Ebron to possibly take over TE1. You can see Wash moving to the slot WR1 role and Switzer just continue his role at his cost. BUT, there are names just as big on the defensive side that will make ALL FA moves difficult to predict or even feel good about. Some starters for the 2020 Steelers will not be with the team in 2021. Planning ahead is just a worthwhile conversation IMO, even though none of us can predict or control any of it.

I don't think that by any means does any "window slam shut" in 2021, but significant changes are coming. How this plays out will be very difficult to watch for some.

One "easy" move is to let Feiler go on the assumption that Dotson takes over as a starting guard. If you have to let AV go, then you hope Chuks and Banner are your OT starters and Gray is the swing tackle. Then add a draft pick. On the defensive side, you likely say bye to Alualu, VW, McCullers, and potentially Dupree.

So realistically, the two "painful" departures are AV and Dupree. Them leaving might actually impact game play. VW and Alualu would be sad, but not likely alter the manner the team attempts to play on Sundays.

[Born2Steel]

One "easy" move is to let Feiler go on the assumption that Dotson takes over as a starting guard. If you have to let AV go, then you hope Chuks and Banner are your OT starters and Gray is the swing tackle. Then add a draft pick. On the defensive side, you likely say bye to Alualu, VW, McCullers, and potentially Dupree.

So realistically, the two "painful" departures are AV and Dupree. Them leaving might actually impact game play. VW and Alualu would be sad, but not likely alter the manner the team attempts to play on Sundays.

Do you keep Conner or JuJu?

The OT situation can go a couple ways without AV. Banner as RT with Gray at LT and Chuks as both backup. OR Banner at RT with Chuks at LT and backing up RT should Banner get hurt, and Gray backing up Chuks should either get hurt. Gray is not a RT and Banner is not a LT.

[Mojouw]

Do you keep Conner or JuJu?

The OT situation can go a couple ways without AV. Banner as RT with Gray at LT and Chuks as both backup. OR Banner at RT with Chuks at LT and backing up RT should Banner get hurt, and Gray backing up Chuks should either get hurt. Gray is not a RT and Banner is not a LT.

Assume both Conner and Juju perform to some sort of reasonable expectations and stay healthy in 2019; then yes I keep both. Operating on the assumption that neither wants a deal that would just cripple the cap.

[Mojouw]

Do you keep Conner or JuJu?

The OT situation can go a couple ways without AV. Banner as RT with Gray at LT and Chuks as both backup. OR Banner at RT with Chuks at LT and backing up RT should Banner get hurt, and Gray backing up Chuks should either get hurt. Gray is not a RT and Banner is not a LT.

Did some quick research and releasing McDonald and VW gets you to 32 million in space with Heyward, AV, Hilton, Sutton, Conner, Juju, and Dupree the big names to fold back into the roster.

Figure you can get Juju, Conner, and Heyward for that $32 million. Hilton/Sutton comes from some sort of restructure or extension from another high $$$ player. So, I do thin you are looking at losing one of Sutton/Hilton, AV and Dupree. OR let Conner go and use that on AV.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Do you keep Conner or JuJu?

The OT situation can go a couple ways without AV. Banner as RT with Gray at LT and Chuks as both backup. OR Banner at RT with Chuks at LT and backing up RT should Banner get hurt, and Gray backing up Chuks should either get hurt. Gray is not a RT and Banner is not a LT.

I am curious as to why you think Derwin Gray is not a RT, could you please elaborate?

As for Conner or JuJu, I think you try and retain both if they both have a good season, but IMO, you can find competent RB's in round 3 or in free agency to split time with other RB's, while I think a player of JuJu's ability is more difficult to find, so I would prioritize him over Conner.

[86WARD]

And that's the rub. No way to know if either will turn out to be worth the trade or any trade for a year or 3. I know what I have with JuJu, therefore he is my sure thing. I don't make that trade this year but for conversation it's worth considering.


Even if they have success on their respective teams, that doesn’t necessarily mean that those players would have the same success on different teams and in different situations...

[Hawkman]

Everyone go home for the day.

Nothing is topping this. :applaudit:

Vincent Donofrio, I love the guy. First came on the scene in Mystic Pizza, Eggerd in MIB, and of course is long and distinguished run on Law and Order CI,....always a bit of a loose cannon, but still love him.

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So now.....with all the beavers, you are trying to make this a real thread......WHY?

[Born2Steel]

I am curious as to why you think Derwin Gray is not a RT, could you please elaborate?

As for Conner or JuJu, I think you try and retain both if they both have a good season, but IMO, you can find competent RB's in round 3 or in free agency to split time with other RB's, while I think a player of JuJu's ability is more difficult to find, so I would prioritize him over Conner.

Simplest explanation is he is a LT. He played LT throughout his college career. Rarely do OTs have success switching sides from college to NFL. Maybe Gray is the exception?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Simplest explanation is he is a LT. He played LT throughout his college career. Rarely do OTs have success switching sides from college to NFL. Maybe Gray is the exception?

Offensive linemen switch positions and sides all the time. Mostly due to limitations of their size, athleticism that translate differently from college to pro speed of the game, but some due to flexibility. Derwin Gray IMO, doesn't have the quickness to play LT consistently vs elite pass rushers in the NFL...he may be better at RT or Guard, but the Steelers list him as a OT.

-Marcus Gilbert played both guard spots at Florida as a sophomore, then RT as a Junior and LT his final year.
-Marvel Smith played LT at Arizona, then RT at the Steelers for a couple seasons and moved to LT when Wayne Gandy moved on
-Cameron Erving played mostly LT at Fla State, including first 9 games of his senior year before moving to center and drafted in round 1
-Trent Williams played RT in Oklahoma because Phil Loadholt was playing LT
-Max Starks played RT, RG and LT at Univ of Florida and both tackle spots in the NFL

IMO, Chukks is the hopeful LT of the future due to his athleticism and size. Banner had decent feet for such a large guy and could show well enough to have the Steelers extend him a contract to play RT. Gray has long enough arms and decent enough feet to match the pass protection efficiency of Banner at RT, or just be a reserve swing OT. I really doubt anybody would project him to start at LT. Dotson is on a cheap contract, so he should look to compete for LG spot in 2021 and Feiler is a cap casualty.

This Steeler O line group has lots of talent. Much more than compared to the 2007-ish era teams.

[Born2Steel]

Offensive linemen switch positions and sides all the time. Mostly due to limitations of their size, athleticism that translate differently from college to pro speed of the game, but some due to flexibility. Derwin Gray IMO, doesn't have the quickness to play LT consistently vs elite pass rushers in the NFL...he may be better at RT or Guard, but the Steelers list him as a OT.

-Marcus Gilbert played both guard spots at Florida as a sophomore, then RT as a Junior and LT his final year.
-Marvel Smith played LT at Arizona, then RT at the Steelers for a couple seasons and moved to LT when Wayne Gandy moved on
-Cameron Erving played mostly LT at Fla State, including first 9 games of his senior year before moving to center and drafted in round 1
-Trent Williams played RT in Oklahoma because Phil Loadholt was playing LT
-Max Starks played RT, RG and LT at Univ of Florida and both tackle spots in the NFL

IMO, Chukks is the hopeful LT of the future due to his athleticism and size. Banner had decent feet for such a large guy and could show well enough to have the Steelers extend him a contract to play RT. Gray has long enough arms and decent enough feet to match the pass protection efficiency of Banner at RT, or just be a reserve swing OT. I really doubt anybody would project him to start at LT. Dotson is on a cheap contract, so he should look to compete for LG spot in 2021 and Feiler is a cap casualty.

This Steeler O line group has lots of talent. Much more than compared to the 2007-ish era teams.

I think Chuks is the better LT also. There are always exceptions but by large OTs do not switch sides from college to the NFL. Not successfully anyway. One that I am anxious to watch this season is the Browns. They signed Conklin(3yr/$42M) to play RT in FA, and THEN drafted Wills in the 1st to supposedly play LT. Jedrick Wills is a RT. I'm interested to see how that works out. I would not even care really if not for a conversation I listened to recently on this very subject. OL that can play up and down the line are important guys to have, true. But for the sake of this conversation only, Gray is a LT until otherwise proven.

[hawaiiansteeler]

So now.....with all the beavers, you are trying to make this a real thread......WHY?

you make a great point...

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3og0IBnG9wJlbKL0Gc/source.gif

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I think Chuks is the better LT also. There are always exceptions but by large OTs do not switch sides from college to the NFL. Not successfully anyway. One that I am anxious to watch this season is the Browns. They signed Conklin(3yr/$42M) to play RT in FA, and THEN drafted Wills in the 1st to supposedly play LT. Jedrick Wills is a RT. I'm interested to see how that works out. I would not even care really if not for a conversation I listened to recently on this very subject. OL that can play up and down the line are important guys to have, true. But for the sake of this conversation only, Gray is a LT until otherwise proven.

Gray played primarily Guard in the Steelers 4 preseason games last year. He didn't take any snaps in preseason at LT, where A.V., Okorafor, Banner was the preseason depth and Damian Prince served as the 3rd string LT one game. I'd say for the sake of conversation Gray is a backup Guard until proven otherwise, but not a LT.

Wills blocked the blindside (RT) for a Left Handed QB (Tua). He appears to have the tools to play LT in the NFL and early reports in the media from the Browns Head Coach and also the O line coach, is that he is making the transition well.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Suddenly the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault.

Six Rings, can you please start another one of your brilliant threads soon?

I have lots of new beaver memes to share...

[steelreserve]

I am less concerned about the OL than with what happens on defense. Figure it will last as currently constructed for about 1-2 years max before we have to worry about:

- Haden deteriorating
- Heyward getting too old
- Tuitt breaking down

If we are left with no starting DL talent and a hole in the secondary, that's a real problem. We might get lucky on one or more of the above, but who knows, we are just as likely to be unlucky with something else. (Fitzpatrick injury, Nelson leaves, Watt contract dispute, etc.) On balance, I think that's something we need to get ready for in a hurry, especially the DL. I wish we could've done something about that this off-season, but options were limited. Losing Hargrave could hurt a lot more than it seems.

[Six Rings]

Six Rings, can you please start another one of your brilliant threads soon?

I have lots of new beaver memes to share...

I must be very popular here, judging by the replies of my thread. Just tell me how well be okay at OL if we lose Big Al as projected and fail to replace Pouncey, who played poorly last season to those who watched. The last time I checked Hawaii had better beavers to show. Getting up at 9:00AM to watch a football game or being at work for Monday night or Thursday night...man's that's tough.

Look I played and coached dude. Doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone here, but you just might want to listen a little. 12-4, we are not and this team has major problems on the horizon....

[Six Rings]

I am less concerned about the OL than with what happens on defense. Figure it will last as currently constructed for about 1-2 years max before we have to worry about:

- Haden deteriorating
- Heyward getting too old
- Tuitt breaking down

If we are left with no starting DL talent and a hole in the secondary, that's a real problem. We might get lucky on one or more of the above, but who knows, we are just as likely to be unlucky with something else. (Fitzpatrick injury, Nelson leaves, Watt contract dispute, etc.) On balance, I think that's something we need to get ready for in a hurry, especially the DL. I wish we could've done something about that this off-season, but options were limited. Losing Hargrave could hurt a lot more than it seems.


That's a 4 star beaver type of point. Haden has about 1-2 season of high level play. Heyward is a special. He's a top leader and player. I think he has 3-4 more good years left. Tuitt? When healthy... We have no really NT / Run Stuffer in the middle. Losing Hargrave will hurt.

2021.

Starting SB Needed. Unless you like Duck or Rudolph.
Major problems on the OL
An aging DL
#1 Corner needs to be replaced.
Ju-ju won't be here, and frankly if offered enough the Steelers should have traded him.
Don't ask me who's running the ball. No clue. It won't be Conner.

[fansince'76]

I must be very popular here, judging by the replies of my thread.

Yeah, "popular" in the point-and-laugh kinda way...

[polamalubeast]

Yeah, "popular" in the point-and-laugh kinda way...

He is also a laughingstock

[Six Rings]

He is also a laughingstock

Tell you what. Save this thread and if you have the stones, re-post it in 2021. Well see who's laughing.

[polamalubeast]

Tell you what. Save this thread and if you have the stones, re-post it in 2021. Well see who's laughing.

Don't need to wait until 2021,just read the post 25 and 33 of this thread….

[Six Rings]

Don't need to wait until 2021,just read the post 25 and 33 of this thread….


LOL, I don't see much football dicussion here. Just sophmoric insults. The next season will give plenty of material if I choose to be a troll idiots, which is not what I want. So keep posting, I'll might just use what you say and laugh in your face then things go the other way? Deal? Maybe I'll find one board for football conversation and use this board for comedy.

[polamalubeast]

LOL, I don't see much football dicussion here. Just sophmoric insults. The next season will give plenty of material if I choose to be a troll idiots, which is not what I want. So keep posting, I'll might just use what you say and laugh in your face then things go the other way? Deal? Maybe I'll find one board for football conversation and use this board for comedy.

read post 30 too.

[polamalubeast]

Read this please six ring


You don't have to archive anything moron. The message board will still be here and still have every thread that happens in that time.

We're all shaking in our boots with your threats to "archive some threads". :rofl2:

Maybe I should put together a package of your most idiotic posts that can be gathered from your embarrassingly moronic catalog of Six Rings favorites. I'm not sure the message board has a capacity for that much raw sewage in one post, so that could be an issue. The administrator may need to be contacted to see if it is even possible.

We have the last 50 years of the franchise to show that they do it as good or better than anyone ever has. Suck on that.

We've already been going over all your crappy threads with wrong information. Or seeing you cut/paste from elsewhere and claim it as your own. You did it in your first post of this thread. Fourth paragraph, last two sentences. You can see the different font and size. It came from somewhere else, yet you claim it as your own when you didn't type it up from your own brain with your own thoughts.

But don't worry, we are all keeping track of all your dumbass claims, theories, accusations, misinformation, and mountains of threads started by you do disparage the Steelers ownership, organization, head coach, and anything else Steelers related that chaffs your ass. You've already been identified as a clown because nobody can have a discussion with you. You say something, then people show you with facts that what you are claiming is incorrect....and you just pretend that evidence to show that you are wrong doesn't exist.

You also refuse to even address posts that give real answers to your questions. You ignore all the comments that refute what you say, and move on to other commentary while declaring victory in the argument. Everyone is saying you are wrong. The facts and the links to those facts say that you are wrong. Then you get all butt hurt, abandon that thread where you are getting pummeled, and just start another negative thread.

Here's a homework assignment for you. Evaluate what the Steelers have done from1970-2020 as a franchise. That's a 50 year span of NFL history. Compare what the Steelers have done as an organization to every other NFL franchise. Then come back here and try to show us how incompetent and inferior they have been to other franchises.

We will all be waiting for you to lay it all out for us.

[Born2Steel]

Gray played primarily Guard in the Steelers 4 preseason games last year. He didn't take any snaps in preseason at LT, where A.V., Okorafor, Banner was the preseason depth and Damian Prince served as the 3rd string LT one game. I'd say for the sake of conversation Gray is a backup Guard until proven otherwise, but not a LT.

Wills blocked the blindside (RT) for a Left Handed QB (Tua). He appears to have the tools to play LT in the NFL and early reports in the media from the Browns Head Coach and also the O line coach, is that he is making the transition well.

OK. This is how I see the OL depth chart for 2020. Curious how do you see it? If Gray plays OG where does he fit? Looking ahead to 2021 Feiler, AV, and Banner will all need new contracts.
LT: AV-Chuks-Gray
LG: Feiler-Wiz-Dotson
C: Pouncey-Wiz-Hassenauer
RG: DeCastro-Dotson
RT: Banner-Chuks

Another option I guess could be:
LT: AV- Chuks
LG: Wiz-Gray
C: Pouncey-Hassenauer
RG: DeCastro-Dotson
RT: Feiler-Banner

Both depth charts use 10 OL and the Steelers normally carry 9 so neither is 100% correct most likely. This is why I really want to see some form of TC. This is the most critical group for 2020, IMO, and will set the tone heading into the 2021 offseason as well.

[teegre]

OK. This is how I see the OL depth chart for 2020. Curious how do you see it? If Gray plays OG where does he fit? Looking ahead to 2021 Feiler, AV, and Banner will all need new contracts.
LT: AV-Chuks-Gray
LG: Feiler-Wiz-Dotson
C: Pouncey-Wiz-Hassenauer
RG: DeCastro-Dotson
RT: Banner-Chuks

Another option I guess could be:
LT: AV- Chuks
LG: Wiz-Gray
C: Pouncey-Hassenauer
RG: DeCastro-Dotson
RT: Feiler-Banner

Both depth charts use 10 OL and the Steelers normally carry 9 so neither is 100% correct most likely. This is why I really want to see some form of TC. This is the most critical group for 2020, IMO, and will set the tone heading into the 2021 offseason as well.

I think that both AV and Feiler are gone after this season. Banner gets extended, because he’s young, has developed nicely, and (honestly) won’t be coveted on the open market.

LT: Chuks-affordable free agent
LG: Dotson- Gray/Wiz
C: Pouncey-Wiz/Gray
RG: DeCastro-Gray/Wiz
RT: Banner-2021 draft pick

[fansince'76]

Tell you what. Save this thread and if you have the stones, re-post it in 2021. Well see who's laughing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkJ_0WqBQns

:chuckle:

[teegre]

Tell you what. Save this thread and if you have the stones, re-post it in 2021. Well see who's laughing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynoT189JwJE&app=desktop&persist_app=1

[43Hitman]

I must be very popular here, judging by the replies of my thread. Just tell me how well be okay at OL if we lose Big Al as projected and fail to replace Pouncey, who played poorly last season to those who watched. The last time I checked Hawaii had better beavers to show. Getting up at 9:00AM to watch a football game or being at work for Monday night or Thursday night...man's that's tough.

Look I played and coached dude. Doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone here, but you just might want to listen a little. 12-4, we are not and this team has major problems on the horizon....

Bwahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahaha

[fansince'76]

I must be very popular here, judging by the replies of my thread. Just tell me how well be okay at OL if we lose Big Al as projected and fail to replace Pouncey, who played poorly last season to those who watched. The last time I checked Hawaii had better beavers to show. Getting up at 9:00AM to watch a football game or being at work for Monday night or Thursday night...man's that's tough.

Look I played and coached dude. Doesn't make me any better or worse than anyone here, but you just might want to listen a little. 12-4, we are not and this team has major problems on the horizon....

Bwahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahaha

https://i.redd.it/byhtp812lde31.jpg

:chuckle:

[Butch]

Oh crap no yinz have done it. Made six rings so mad he had to bust out the "I played and was a coach" card. Yinz just might want to listen to the expert.

Let me guess you're really Will Wellichek. Nobody here gives a rats ass about your so-called " credentials" they don't mean squat.

[Butch]

Deleted repeat post

[43Hitman]

https://i.redd.it/byhtp812lde31.jpg

:chuckle:
:toofunny:

[pczach]

https://i.redd.it/byhtp812lde31.jpg

:chuckle:

:lol: :sofunny::rofl2::toofunny:

[teegre]

Oh crap no yinz have done it. Made six rings so mad he had to bust out the "I played and was a coach" card. Yinz just might want to listen to the expert.

Let me guess you're really Will Wellichek. Nobody here gives a rats ass about your so-called " credentials" they don't mean squat.

Im not sure if you were over at Steelers Fever, but there was a guy called Uptown Murph (aka Smurf) who was trolling away... and then he laid a number on us. It went something like this:

HAWAII: facts
BUDDHA: facts
PCZACH: facts
SMURF: Yea, well, you are all idiots. I know what I’m talking about because ... (wait for it)... I’m a male model.

Bwahahaha!!! :toofunny:

[DesertSteel]

LOL, I don't see much football dicussion here. Just sophmoric insults. The next season will give plenty of material if I choose to be a troll idiots, which is not what I want. So keep posting, I'll might just use what you say and laugh in your face then things go the other way? Deal? Maybe I'll find one board for football conversation and use this board for comedy.
You’ve already been busted for stealing other people’s posts from other boards and posting them here. So please, keep us in your memories.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Look I played and coached dude.

https://ishouldhavesaid.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/dealing-with-a-bragger.jpg

[polamalubeast]

You’ve already been busted for stealing other people’s posts from other boards and posting them here. So please, keep us in your memories.

Ouch!

[pczach]

Im not sure if you were over at Steelers Fever, but there was a guy called Uptown Murph (aka Smurf) who was trolling away... and then he laid a number on us. It went something like this:

HAWAII: facts
BUDDHA: facts
PCZACH: facts
SMURF: Yea, well, you are all idiots. I know what I’m talking about because ... (wait for it)... I’m a male model.

Bwahahaha!!! :toofunny:



I mean.....how do you overcome anyone that would drop a bombshell like "I'm a male model" on you??

That's almost as impressive as someone saying "Look, I played and coached dude", while also living near a former NFL assistant coach for the Ravens that says Tomlin is easy to game plan for.......Almost!

:rofl2:

[pczach]

Oh crap no yinz have done it. Made six rings so mad he had to bust out the "I played and was a coach" card. Yinz just might want to listen to the expert.

Let me guess you're really Will Wellichek.



Well, he has absolutely zero people skills so........

:grin:

[hawaiiansteeler]

I must be very popular here.

Look I played and coached dude.

I can relate, it's always so embarrassing for me when I get recognized randomly in public. I never know what to say, I'm glad it doesn't happen that often.

okay, your turn again...

[DesertSteel]

you just might want to listen a little.
How many times have you had to say that in life?

[hawaiiansteeler]

you just might want to listen a little.

I do, I try to listen to you as little as possible.

[polamalubeast]

BTW,who cares about 2021...The 2020 season is not even at 3 months away to start,so who cares about the 2021 season.

[86WARD]

Yeah, "popular" in the point-and-laugh kinda way...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200530/de68a5ff43d61376190875c5395e9668.jpg

[pczach]

BTW,who cares about 2021...The 2020 season is not even at 3 months away to start,so who cares about the 2021 season.



There's only one person who cares about it.

I'll give you a hint about who it is. He was a player and a coach, but he didn't understand Mojouw's post about the potential OL depth chart. He didn't understand that Mojouw's list went from left to right like in, you know, real football when you are talking about OL from the offensive side of the ball.....because he played and coached.

Did I mention he played and coached?

[teegre]

I mean.....how do you overcome anyone that would drop a bombshell like "I'm a male model" on you??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCvTfFahHE&app=desktop&persist_app=1

[hawaiiansteeler]

this thread is gold.

it's had beavers, male models, Will Wellichek, Private Pyle, OL depth charts that are read from right to left, sophomoric insults, and dudes that have both played AND coached.

doesn't get much better than that...

[polamalubeast]

I think that six rings will want to ignore this post 30.



You don't have to archive anything moron. The message board will still be here and still have every thread that happens in that time.

We're all shaking in our boots with your threats to "archive some threads". :rofl2:

Maybe I should put together a package of your most idiotic posts that can be gathered from your embarrassingly moronic catalog of Six Rings favorites. I'm not sure the message board has a capacity for that much raw sewage in one post, so that could be an issue. The administrator may need to be contacted to see if it is even possible.

We have the last 50 years of the franchise to show that they do it as good or better than anyone ever has. Suck on that.

We've already been going over all your crappy threads with wrong information. Or seeing you cut/paste from elsewhere and claim it as your own. You did it in your first post of this thread. Fourth paragraph, last two sentences. You can see the different font and size. It came from somewhere else, yet you claim it as your own when you didn't type it up from your own brain with your own thoughts.

But don't worry, we are all keeping track of all your dumbass claims, theories, accusations, misinformation, and mountains of threads started by you do disparage the Steelers ownership, organization, head coach, and anything else Steelers related that chaffs your ass. You've already been identified as a clown because nobody can have a discussion with you. You say something, then people show you with facts that what you are claiming is incorrect....and you just pretend that evidence to show that you are wrong doesn't exist.

You also refuse to even address posts that give real answers to your questions. You ignore all the comments that refute what you say, and move on to other commentary while declaring victory in the argument. Everyone is saying you are wrong. The facts and the links to those facts say that you are wrong. Then you get all butt hurt, abandon that thread where you are getting pummeled, and just start another negative thread.

Here's a homework assignment for you. Evaluate what the Steelers have done from1970-2020 as a franchise. That's a 50 year span of NFL history. Compare what the Steelers have done as an organization to every other NFL franchise. Then come back here and try to show us how incompetent and inferior they have been to other franchises.

We will all be waiting for you to lay it all out for us.

[Mojouw]

Apparently the ONLY thing that can unify this forum is dunking on Six Rings.

[pczach]

Look I played and coached dude.


Which side are you talking out of this time?

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[BuddhaBus]

Im not sure if you were over at Steelers Fever, but there was a guy called Uptown Murph (aka Smurf) who was trolling away... and then he laid a number on us. It went something like this:

HAWAII: facts
BUDDHA: facts
PCZACH: facts
SMURF: Yea, well, you are all idiots. I know what I’m talking about because ... (wait for it)... I’m a male model.

Bwahahaha!!! :toofunny:

You also forgot about Smurf’s gem of “Sean Spence is getting held back by LeBeau and the coaching staff, fam!”. Keep in mind this was after his catastrophic knee injury he was on IR with that threatened to end his whole career.


Sorry, couldn’t resist a good beaver thread. Where’s Galax when you need him?

[pczach]

You also forgot about Smurf’s gem of “Sean Spence is getting held back by LeBeau and the coaching staff, fam!”. Keep in mind this was after his catastrophic knee injury he was on IR with that threatened to end his whole career.


Sorry, couldn’t resist a good beaver thread. Where’s Galax when you need him?


Great to see you here Buddha!

[hawaiiansteeler]

You also forgot about Smurf’s gem of “Sean Spence is getting held back by LeBeau and the coaching staff, fam!”. Keep in mind this was after his catastrophic knee injury he was on IR with that threatened to end his whole career.


Sorry, couldn’t resist a good beaver thread. Where’s Galax when you need him?

Aloha Buddha, definitely nice to see and hear from you again!

brings back lots of great memories...

[hawaiiansteeler]

this thread is gold.

it's had beavers, male models, Will Wellichek, Private Pyle, OL depth charts that are read from right to left, sophomoric insults, and dudes that have both played AND coached.

doesn't get much better than that...

as El Gonzo just pointed out to me, there is still one thing missing in this thread so...

Let’s Remember Some Steelers: Isaac Redman

By Alex Kozora
Posted on July 2, 2019

As we have done for several years to bide our time during the offseason, we’re looking back on Pittsburgh Steelers you may have forgotten…or not remembered at all in the first place. Our “blast from the past” series, with a new, dumb name, highlighting players who have long hung up their cleats.

Suddenness and glide. That’s Isaac Redman. At least, that was the joke anyway.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/07/lets-remember-some-steelers-isaac-redman/

[43Hitman]

You also forgot about Smurf’s gem of “Sean Spence is getting held back by LeBeau and the coaching staff, fam!”. Keep in mind this was after his catastrophic knee injury he was on IR with that threatened to end his whole career.


Sorry, couldn’t resist a good beaver thread. Where’s Galax when you need him?

Great to see you posting Buddha!

[BuddhaBus]

Great to see you here Buddha!


Great to see you posting Buddha!


Aloha Buddha, definitely nice to see and hear from you again!

brings back lots of great memories...

Hey, fellas! Thanks for the greetings! I hope all is as good as can be expected for you in the current apocalypse. :drink:

[86WARD]

Remember Isaac Redman? Come on...why bother? There’s 100s of other players you should remember before Isaac Redman.

[43Hitman]

Remember Isaac Redman? Come on...why bother? There’s 100s of other players you should remember before Isaac Redman.
Don't even go there. Nothing and I mean NOTHING compares to Redman's suddenness and glide! :chuckle:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Don't even go there. Nothing and I mean NOTHING compares to Redman's suddenness and glide! :chuckle:

:rofl2:
So true. I think that is a behind the scenes quality that scouts look for in the draft. Size, 40 time, Strength, Vertical, Passion for the game, Suddeness & Glide.

[JnK]

this thread is gold.

it's had beavers, male models, Will Wellichek, Private Pyle, OL depth charts that are read from right to left, sophomoric insults, and dudes that have both played AND coached.

doesn't get much better than that...

Well.... there've been no Tim Lumber references yet so there's still room for improvement.

[pczach]

Hey, fellas! Thanks for the greetings! I hope all is as good as can be expected for you in the current apocalypse. :drink:



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[43Hitman]

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME OF CHESS??

[vasteeler]

You also forgot about Smurf’s gem of “Sean Spence is getting held back by LeBeau and the coaching staff, fam!”. Keep in mind this was after his catastrophic knee injury he was on IR with that threatened to end his whole career.


Sorry, couldn’t resist a good beaver thread. Where’s Galax when you need him?

:faint:

[IowaSteeler927]

this thread is gold.

it's had beavers, male models, Will Wellichek, Private Pyle, OL depth charts that are read from right to left, sophomoric insults, and dudes that have both played AND coached.

doesn't get much better than that...

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[teegre]

You also forgot about Smurf’s gem of “Sean Spence is getting held back by LeBeau and the coaching staff, fam!”. Keep in mind this was after his catastrophic knee injury he was on IR with that threatened to end his whole career.

Well, besides the drop-foot injury and the nerve damage and the torn ligaments & tendons... it was obviously BeLeau’s fault. If you knew how to “turn left” you’d understand that.

[teegre]

beavers: check
male models: check
Buddha: check

Hmmm, something is missing. :huh: GOT IT!!! We need to get in contact with TAPES18N1.

[Steeler-in-west]

BTW,who cares about 2021...The 2020 season is not even at 3 months away to start,so who cares about the 2021 season.

this is true, it so obvious the Steelers are all in this year with the moves they’ve made, how can anyone really talk about 2021?

[hawaiiansteeler]

this is true, it so obvious the Steelers are all in this year with the moves they’ve made, how can anyone really talk about 2021?

Six Rings is a chess master, always thinking five steps ahead...

[fansince'76]

Six Rings is a chess master, always thinking five steps ahead...

He's a 4-D chess master!

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:chuckle:

[polamalubeast]

What about the 2025 season?!

[Steeler-in-west]

Six Rings is a chess master, always thinking five steps ahead...

yeah, It seems, I mean we’d a like to see the Steelers be dominant for the next half dozen years, but you have to take advantage of Ben’s final year or two. That’s what the organization is focused on and I won’t second guess them on this. We know too well franchise QB’s don’t come around too often, and when you don’t have one it’s extremely hard to get to the top.

Bradshaw 4-0
Ben 2-1 and hopefully another

everyone else 0-1

[pczach]

What about the 2025 season?!


We're screwed!!!:lol:

[polamalubeast]

Thanks to a very easy schedule and Ben's return, the Steelers should make the playoffs. Therefore the window is open, and super bowl appearance is a possibility. I don't buy these 7-9 to 8-8 picks by the media for this coming season. I See 9-7 to 10-6.

However come 2021, we've got serious issues on the OL

Villanueva will be 32 in September, and he had a very poor 2019 getting flagged often and giving up sacks. No doubt the man's a hero, but his days of playing left tackle are almost over. More problematic is he's the lone proven player on the team capable of playing the Left Tackle position to the level the offense needs. What happens if he departs in free agency. Given he'll be 33 in Sept 202, I just can't see the Steelers offering him a three-year deal at the price he will be seeking. This could be his last year in Pittsburgh.

Equally challenging will be replacing Pouncey, who also had a down year. I didn't see many of his trademark pulls in 2019, I saw him struggle to generate holes and getting pushed backward too often. Pouncey has said he's retiring when Ben is retiring. Decastro is still going strong, but he's getting up there in age. Wisniewski, age 31 is really a journeyman type of starter. A temporary patch solution for 1-3 seasons at most.

Suddenly the OL is a major concern, and that is the Steelers fault. In the past 7 drafts, only one OL player was taken on day one or two ( First three rounds ) , and he's still a backup.

It won't matter who is at Quarterback if the OL, who played poorly as a group goes from bad to worse.

I don't know the Steelers were offered to trade Ju-Ju. Maybe they should have taken that deal, as he's likely a goner next year in free agency. A high 2nd or 1st for Ju-Ju...should have taken that deal and picked a Tackle.

With Okorafor and Dotson,maybe not

[pczach]

With Okorafor and Dotson,maybe not



So you're saying the Steelers get to actually draft players to replace current players?

Who knew? I had no idea!

[fansince'76]

Good bump.


With Okorafor and Dotson,maybe not

Yeah, maybe the Steelers' FO might actually know WTF they're doing?

[tube517]

Yes we are 2 wins away from 7-9 as Cowturd predicted. :jerkit:

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[Rotorhead]

Haha, at this point this season, we are the top team in the NFL, and we absolutely dominated the Cinderella Browns once again.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

With Okorafor and Dotson,maybe not

Okorafor did really well in pass protection today. Held Garrett to 1 sack and it looked like a miscommunication between he and Dotson IMO. Steelers O line is gonna be fine going forward.

[Mojouw]

Okorafor did really well in pass protection today. Held Garrett to 1 sack and it looked like a miscommunication between he and Dotson IMO. Steelers O line is gonna be fine going forward.

I was really bummed when Banner beat out Okorafor in camp. I mean, great for Banner and I think he can be a really good NFL OT. But I was like, whoa boy, I guess that means Okorafor isn't really any great shakes and the Steelers have no OT/LT in the wings. Then Banner gets hurt and Chuks comes in and does what he has been doing. Sure, he isn't going to make All-Pro or anything, but teams have been targeting him in their pass rush game-plan and it hasn't worked. I feel like I am seeing the Steelers give Chuks less help than they initially gave Feiler from TEs and RBs against good pass rushing teams, but that may not be actually true.

Anyways, I think Chuks looks like he can legit play in the NFL. That's awesome. Plus, assume the coaches know what they are doing (I know...I know...), Banner is a at least a smidge better. There is a version that you have the Pittsburgh Steelers next set of bookends for the next several years already on the roster.

Three other o-line thoughts:
1. The team is a "prized" C prospect away from being able to put a 5 man line out there with DeCastro as the oldest player and everyone else 26 and under (Chuks/Dotson/???/DeCastro/Banner). I realize that this is not guaranteed to happen, but a cap strapped 2021 Pittsburgh Steelers could let Feiler and AV walk, push Pouncey out the door ($8 million in cap savings), and roll out an almost entirely new offensive line unit where only DeCastro costs real cap money.
2. What if Hawkins can be rehabbed into what he looked like prior to getting hurt? That's starting to look like some serious OT depth.
3. While I do not (and will never) believe that Sarrett is in the same league as Munchak; I do think we can stop murdering the guy. Through 5 games in 2020, it really does seem like the offensive line problems in 2019 were tied to the QB play, or lack thereof. Someone is getting guys like Banner, Chuks, and Dotson ready to play.

[polamalubeast]

I was really bummed when Banner beat out Okorafor in camp. I mean, great for Banner and I think he can be a really good NFL OT. But I was like, whoa boy, I guess that means Okorafor isn't really any great shakes and the Steelers have no OT/LT in the wings. Then Banner gets hurt and Chuks comes in and does what he has been doing. Sure, he isn't going to make All-Pro or anything, but teams have been targeting him in their pass rush game-plan and it hasn't worked. I feel like I am seeing the Steelers give Chuks less help than they initially gave Feiler from TEs and RBs against good pass rushing teams, but that may not be actually true.

Anyways, I think Chuks looks like he can legit play in the NFL. That's awesome. Plus, assume the coaches know what they are doing (I know...I know...), Banner is a at least a smidge better. There is a version that you have the Pittsburgh Steelers next set of bookends for the next several years already on the roster.

Three other o-line thoughts:
1. The team is a "prized" C prospect away from being able to put a 5 man line out there with DeCastro as the oldest player and everyone else 26 and under (Chuks/Dotson/???/DeCastro/Banner). I realize that this is not guaranteed to happen, but a cap strapped 2021 Pittsburgh Steelers could let Feiler and AV walk, push Pouncey out the door ($8 million in cap savings), and roll out an almost entirely new offensive line unit where only DeCastro costs real cap money.
2. What if Hawkins can be rehabbed into what he looked like prior to getting hurt? That's starting to look like some serious OT depth.
3. While I do not (and will never) believe that Sarrett is in the same league as Munchak; I do think we can stop murdering the guy. Through 5 games in 2020, it really does seem like the offensive line problems in 2019 were tied to the QB play, or lack thereof. Someone is getting guys like Banner, Chuks, and Dotson ready to play.

I'm glad you mention Sarrett!

He had big shoes to fill but even if he is not Munchak (It's impossible to be) he still does a good job and he learned under Munchak

[tube517]

Just draft Maurkice Dawson-Webster and we'll be fine for the next decade. :chuckle:

[Mojouw]

Just draft Maurkice Dawson-Webster and we'll be fine for the next decade. :chuckle:

How could I forget about him! Best OC prospect in years.