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Mojouw
02-09-2020, 12:05 PM
https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/steelers-will-hire-south-carolinas-bryan-mcclendon-as-new-wr-coach/

I don't know anything about this guy. But I do like the trend with this and the Canada hire. Younger college coaches that aren't part of the annual NFL coaching recycling program.

Fresh ideas and perspectives hopefully.

BlackAndGold
02-09-2020, 12:57 PM
A Gamecock? yuck!.

Seriously though, hope he does well. 36 years old, never worked for an NFL team before.

He'll have some insight on WR Bryan Edwards come draft time. 6'3" WR. He also helped develop 49ers rookie Debo Samuel.

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AtlantaDan
02-09-2020, 01:27 PM
https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/steelers-will-hire-south-carolinas-bryan-mcclendon-as-new-wr-coach/

I don't know anything about this guy. But I do like the trend with this and the Canada hire. Younger college coaches that aren't part of the annual NFL coaching recycling program.

Fresh ideas and perspectives hopefully.

”Fresh ideas” and the mediocre South Carolina offense are not terms often heard in the same sentence here in SEC country.

McClendon was the Gamecocks offensive coordinator in 2018-19, but he was demoted late last season by head coach Will Muschamp. His offenses ranked 57th and 96th in the country.

https://triblive.com/sports/report-steelers-to-hire-south-carolinas-bryan-mcclendon-as-wr-coach/

86WARD
02-09-2020, 01:34 PM
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Steelers Depot is quickly becoming the “Cliff Claven” of news reports. That fact is barely even a “fun fact”...lol.

ALLD
02-09-2020, 01:50 PM
I heard Ike Taylor was available for the job...

Mojouw
02-09-2020, 01:58 PM
”Fresh ideas” and the mediocre South Carolina offense are not terms often heard in the same sentence here in SEC country.

McClendon was the Gamecocks offensive coordinator in 2018-19, but he was demoted late last season by head coach Will Muschamp. His offenses ranked 57th and 96th in the country.

https://triblive.com/sports/report-steelers-to-hire-south-carolinas-bryan-mcclendon-as-wr-coach/


Well, that sucks. I don't know anything about the coach, the team, or really what a WRs coach even does. I was just excited that the hire wasn't some guy who has been bouncing around the NFL for 3 decades getting jobs as his coaching friends move up the ladder. Maybe in this case, it was far too optimistic of a thought.

pczach
02-09-2020, 02:56 PM
Well, that sucks. I don't know anything about the coach, the team, or really what a WRs coach even does. I was just excited that the hire wasn't some guy who has been bouncing around the NFL for 3 decades getting jobs as his coaching friends move up the ladder. Maybe in this case, it was far too optimistic of a thought.



I wouldn't make too much of that. Head coaches often need to blame ineffective units on coordinators, or they are forced to do so because of outside pressure within the program that the athletic director or administration make as a demand for the head coach to keep his job.

Besides, position coaching is far different from being a coordinator, and you can only work with the talent that is given to you at a second tier program. I really don't know much about the guy either, but I would imagine there are good football people that are aware of the type of coach he is and how he goes about his business.

I see he was a running back coach that coached Isaiah Crowell, Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, and Sony Michele. I know those guys have talent, but it still takes coaching to develop that talent. He obviously didn't have that type of talent at the WR position at South Carolina.

I see that the three assistants to be leaving South Carolina are all getting better jobs making good money. It sounds like a recruiting and head coach problem more than problems with the assistant coaching staff. I look forward to seeing what he can do.

BlackAndGold
02-09-2020, 03:54 PM
Steelers Depot is quickly becoming the “Cliff Claven” of news reports. That fact is barely even a “fun fact”...lol.

but their draft coverage is fantastic.

Shoes
02-09-2020, 06:12 PM
Well, this is the second coaching position I hoped the steelers would take care of, the other was the QB coach. I hope it helps.


The Steelers went through last season with an interim receivers coach, and it appears they may have filled the job.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/09/steelers-reportedly-adding-south-carolina-receivers-coach/

Hawkman
02-09-2020, 07:45 PM
Well, this is the second coaching position I hoped the steelers would take care of, the other was the QB coach. I hope it helps.


The Steelers went through last season with an interim receivers coach, and it appears they may have filled the job.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/09/steelers-reportedly-adding-south-carolina-receivers-coach/

Dude you’re six hours late.:rofl2:

Shoes
02-09-2020, 08:32 PM
Dude you’re six hours late.:rofl2:

I do have a life beyond the internet. :chuckle:

DesertSteel
02-09-2020, 09:05 PM
I do have a life beyond the internet. :chuckle:
There’s no need for that!

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-10-2020, 12:23 AM
”Fresh ideas” and the mediocre South Carolina offense are not terms often heard in the same sentence here in SEC country.

McClendon was the Gamecocks offensive coordinator in 2018-19, but he was demoted late last season by head coach Will Muschamp. His offenses ranked 57th and 96th in the country.

https://triblive.com/sports/report-steelers-to-hire-south-carolinas-bryan-mcclendon-as-wr-coach/

Thank you. Lots of college coaches out there with "fresh ideas". Still doesn't mean they are "good ideas" for professional football, where just about every player was on scholarship.

I bet lots of fans think that a jet sweep like their favorite college team runs is a good idea in the NFL and should be done more. They just have no idea of why that is a bad idea in the NFL and don't want to go thru the thought process of why its actually pretty dumb.

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Well, that sucks. I don't know anything about the coach, the team, or really what a WRs coach even does. I was just excited that the hire wasn't some guy who has been bouncing around the NFL for 3 decades getting jobs as his coaching friends move up the ladder. Maybe in this case, it was far too optimistic of a thought.

So you are excited about a hire that you know nothing about, nor his track record or performance, but rather that just that its anti-establishment? Sorry man, for a guy that seemingly likes to deal in concrete facts, statistics and logic, that doesn't seem congruent with your regular thought process.

Steeler-in-west
02-10-2020, 01:20 AM
I wouldn't make too much of that. Head coaches often need to blame ineffective units on coordinators, or they are forced to do so because of outside pressure within the program that the athletic director or administration make as a demand for the head coach to keep his job.

Besides, position coaching is far different from being a coordinator, and you can only work with the talent that is given to you at a second tier program. I really don't know much about the guy either, but I would imagine there are good football people that are aware of the type of coach he is and how he goes about his business.

I see he was a running back coach that coached Isaiah Crowell, Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, and Sony Michele. I know those guys have talent, but it still takes coaching to develop that talent. He obviously didn't have that type of talent at the WR position at South Carolina.

I see that the three assistants to be leaving South Carolina are all getting better jobs making good money. It sounds like a recruiting and head coach problem more than problems with the assistant coaching staff. I look forward to seeing what he can do.

, I’m interested in seeing how this and the Canada hire do. We were down and out in both ares this season - we can only get better with these two hires. Also, agree with the notion that managers/head coaches cast blame on their subordinates all the time to deflect from there own failures - see Paths of Glory (1957)

cold-hard-steel
02-10-2020, 06:55 AM
And yet while all this is taking place , the earth continues to run out of helium . Unbelievable .

teegre
02-10-2020, 07:12 AM
This seems like as good of a place as any to insert an interesting fact. Here is what the new WRs coach has to work with:

Most forced missed-tackles by a WR:
1. Diontae Johnson
2. Chris Godwin (2nd team All-Pro)

SUMMATION:
I can’t wait to see what this kid does with Ben at the helm. :willy:

Mojouw
02-10-2020, 07:44 AM
Thank you. Lots of college coaches out there with "fresh ideas". Still doesn't mean they are "good ideas" for professional football, where just about every player was on scholarship.

I bet lots of fans think that a jet sweep like their favorite college team runs is a good idea in the NFL and should be done more. They just have no idea of why that is a bad idea in the NFL and don't want to go thru the thought process of why its actually pretty dumb.

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So you are excited about a hire that you know nothing about, nor his track record or performance, but rather that just that its anti-establishment? Sorry man, for a guy that seemingly likes to deal in concrete facts, statistics and logic, that doesn't seem congruent with your regular thought process.

I would rather hire a younger position coach than just hire one of the "usual suspect" NFL retreads that are available because the Browns, Bengals, Redskins, or whatever other bad team that purged their coaching staff made someone available. I am operating under the assumption that since the Steelers are typically a deliberate and cautious organization and not known for capricious coaching hires, that they did their due diligence and the guy has the basic qualifications for the job. I think the Steelers staff is needing some voices under 50 and from outside the organization.

Of course, who knows? We can debate these kinds of hires until we are all blue in the face. But it is ultimately meaningless. We, as fans, are never truly sure how this team arrives at gameplans and playcalls. They seem to be intentionally obscure about the roles of individual coaches. So if all this guy is going to do is coach WRs on route running and the other fundamentals of their position -- likely doesn't matter. If the Steelers are wanting gameplan input and offensive system advice from their position coaches, then maybe it matters what they've done in the past. Either way, be interesting to find out.

Long story short, he likely got hired because he was friends with and mentored by the late Daryl Drake anyways.

Hawkman
02-10-2020, 08:48 AM
There’s no need for that!

I was just needling him for starting the same thread right under the original and he was just needling me back....all good fun.

Mojouw
02-10-2020, 12:53 PM
https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/report-steelers-not-yet-settled-on-new-wrs-coach-cotchery-interviewed-friday/

Well apparently, not so fast folks.

What do you know. Speculative reports and unsourced Tweets don't always have the facts straight. South Carolina dude is one of several candidates being interviewed for the job, including former Steelers WR, Jericho Crotchery.

vader29
02-10-2020, 04:25 PM
https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/report-steelers-not-yet-settled-on-new-wrs-coach-cotchery-interviewed-friday/

Well apparently, not so fast folks.

What do you know. Speculative reports and unsourced Tweets don't always have the facts straight. South Carolina dude is one of several candidates being interviewed for the job, including former Steelers WR, Jericho Crotchery.
Crotchery?

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vasteeler
02-10-2020, 04:31 PM
I was just needling him for starting the same thread right under the original and he was just needling me back....all good fun.

Hawkman, i believe he was telling Shoes that there was no need for him to have a life outside of the internet. I don't think he was bagging on you.

Mojouw
02-10-2020, 05:27 PM
Crotchery?

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Woops!! That is a haunting image. The eyes follow me!!


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DesertSteel
02-10-2020, 05:53 PM
Hawkman, i believe he was telling Shoes that there was no need for him to have a life outside of the internet. I don't think he was bagging on you.
You’d be correct :)

JnK
02-11-2020, 12:48 PM
Woops!! That is a haunting image. The eyes follow me!!


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Okay... you just made me lean sideways in my chair to see if that was true.

hawaiiansteeler
02-15-2020, 09:32 PM
Report: Bryan McClendon Won’t Be Steelers New WRs Coach; Staying At South Carolina

By Dave Bryan
Posted on February 15, 2020

https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/report-bryan-mcclendon-wont-be-steelers-new-wrs-coach-staying-at-south-carolina/

BlackAndGold
02-15-2020, 10:22 PM
Report: Bryan McClendon Won’t Be Steelers New WRs Coach; Staying At South Carolina

By Dave Bryan
Posted on February 15, 2020

https://steelersdepot.com/2020/02/report-bryan-mcclendon-wont-be-steelers-new-wrs-coach-staying-at-south-carolina/

So Jerricho Cotchery is the guy?

vader29
02-18-2020, 11:34 AM
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Hawkman
02-18-2020, 11:59 AM
Bet the Skins are sorry to see him go......Put it another way, I’ll bet Ron Rivera is sorry to see him go.

Fire Goodell
02-18-2020, 12:04 PM
Wasn't Ike Hilliard a receiver for the Saints back in the day?

edit: Just checked, it was the giants. Thought it was NO for some reason

tube517
02-18-2020, 12:06 PM
Wasn't Ike Hilliard a receiver for the Saints back in the day?

edit: Just checked, it was the giants. Thought it was NO for some reason

Played w/Tampa Bay after the Giants

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-18-2020, 01:15 PM
I would rather hire a younger position coach than just hire one of the "usual suspect" NFL retreads that are available because the Browns, Bengals, Redskins, or whatever other bad team that purged their coaching staff made someone available.

So my assumption is that you are not a fan of the Ike Hilliard hire then, because he is an NFL retread that has coached in Washington, Buffalo and Miami. Is this correct?

Mojouw
02-18-2020, 02:19 PM
So my assumption is that you are not a fan of the Ike Hilliard hire then, because he is an NFL retread that has coached in Washington, Buffalo and Miami. Is this correct?

Kinda sorta. His one redeeming thing is that he is early in the cycle of recycling. He might be great, but I just think this staff needs some fresh blood. It is starting to get kinda echo chambery on offense. Look what Austin did for the defense...maybe...

At least it isn't like the recycling of McAdoo or other just disasters.

AtlantaDan
02-18-2020, 04:06 PM
Bet the Skins are sorry to see him go......Put it another way, I’ll bet Ron Rivera is sorry to see him go.

Rivera let him go last month when he brought in his WR coach who had been with Rivera at Carolina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/15/redskins-coaching-staff/

Hawkman
02-18-2020, 05:32 PM
Rivera let him go last month when he brought in his WR coach who had been with Rivera at Carolina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/15/redskins-coaching-staff/

I knew about Scott Turner, missed the rest. Guess it shows how irrelevant the Redskins have become around here.

AtlantaDan
02-18-2020, 05:39 PM
I knew about Scott Turner, missed the rest. Guess it shows how irrelevant the Redskins have become around here.

After the multi-decade dumpster fire probably a good position for Rivera to be in since the expectations of the fan base are so low.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-18-2020, 07:06 PM
Kinda sorta. His one redeeming thing is that he is early in the cycle of recycling. He might be great, but I just think this staff needs some fresh blood. It is starting to get kinda echo chambery on offense. Look what Austin did for the defense...maybe...

At least it isn't like the recycling of McAdoo or other just disasters.

OK, good to know. A guy from outside the organization is always something good IMO. I also like the fact that he has some experience with other teams and experience as a NFL WR himself. That way he can mix things that he liked as a player and good ideas from other teams, while also filtering out what he didn't like and what didn't work at other teams.

Its not always recycling garbage, but rather that the new regime has guys they work well with and want to keep that going as opposed to figuring out how to work with a new coach.

Teryl Austin has always had secondary groups that generated turnovers wherever he went. Seattle, Arizona, Detroit. It wasn't surprising to me that the Steelers generated turnovers this past season. If a guy likes to coach a skill or attitude and you let him do that, then it becomes a mindset of the players to perform that skill and have that attitude. It becomes habit forming and I think that is what Austin added to the defense last season.

Mojouw
02-18-2020, 07:13 PM
OK, good to know. A guy from outside the organization is always something good IMO. I also like the fact that he has some experience with other teams and experience as a NFL WR himself. That way he can mix things that he liked as a player and good ideas from other teams, while also filtering out what he didn't like and what didn't work at other teams.

Its not always recycling garbage, but rather that the new regime has guys they work well with and want to keep that going as opposed to figuring out how to work with a new coach.

Teryl Austin has always had secondary groups that generated turnovers wherever he went. Seattle, Arizona, Detroit. It wasn't surprising to me that the Steelers generated turnovers this past season. If a guy likes to coach a skill or attitude and you let him do that, then it becomes a mindset of the players to perform that skill and have that attitude. It becomes habit forming and I think that is what Austin added to the defense last season.

I can agree with all that. He certainly was involved with development of some players recently. Hopefully it works out.


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86WARD
02-18-2020, 08:37 PM
Hilliard did a nice job with McLaurin. Maybe he had a big impact in his development there?

st33lersguy
02-18-2020, 09:04 PM
Glad to see he did help develop some people in Washington that is promising

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-19-2020, 12:58 AM
Hilliard did a nice job with McLaurin. Maybe he had a big impact in his development there?

Maybe he had some impact, but I don't think its much of a shock that 2 of the most impressive WR's at the Senior Bowl last year were Deebo Samuel and Terry McLaurin and they both had solid rookie seasons. Not sure if it was their respective position coaches or the fact that both had great WR skills coming into the league.

Still, I like the Hilliard hire.

hawaiiansteeler
02-19-2020, 12:45 PM
Still, I like the Hilliard hire.

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