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86WARD
01-20-2020, 09:25 AM
Start this thread off with an interesting stat:

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fansince'76
01-20-2020, 09:29 AM
Pulling for the Chiefs myself. I'd like to see Reid finally get over the hump as I feel he's gotten a bad rap for years as a "choker," when it was really McNabb who was the choker.

teegre
01-20-2020, 10:04 AM
I’m torn. Normally, I’d be all about keeping a team from getting as many Lombardis as us... but, I like the Niners. Maybe them catching up to us doesn’t bug me, because their fans aren’t a$$holes. :noidea:

I like Mahomes, but also I think he’ll have plenty of shots at a ring.

Niners now.
Chiefs later.
Steelers a few in between.

Shoes
01-20-2020, 10:05 AM
Pulling for the Chiefs myself. I'd like to see Reid finally get over the hump as I feel he's gotten a bad rap for years as a "choker," when it was really McNabb who was the choker.

Same here, hope Andy gets a ring. It's amazing how fast the Chiefs are playing and scoring.

vasteeler
01-20-2020, 10:30 AM
I have family in KC. Plus i don't want the 9ers to catch us...GO CHIEFS!

Born2Steel
01-20-2020, 10:32 AM
I don't care who wins this one. It looks like it should be a great game. Awful halftime show, but GREAT game.

AtlantaDan
01-20-2020, 10:37 AM
I finally gave up on underestimating the Niners going into the Packers game

Mahomes is not going to be shut down.Niners have the ability to exploit the Chiefs defense with the running game, as the Titans did in the first half, with better play calling and a defensive front that will harass Mahomes more than the Titans and Texans could. But Jimmy G is not elite and unlike the playoff wins is going to have to make a few plays

Looking forward to a great game and not having the Patriots in it

DesertSteel
01-20-2020, 10:47 AM
Pulling for the Chiefs myself. I'd like to see Reid finally get over the hump as I feel he's gotten a bad rap for years as a "choker," when it was really McNabb who was the choker.
I'd like to pull for the Chiefs, but I have a hard time doing it since they employ that thug lowlife creep Tyreek Hill.

tube517
01-20-2020, 11:00 AM
Mahomes is fun to watch. Kelce is crazy like his brother but this game will have the 2 best TEs right now.

FrancoLambert
01-20-2020, 11:34 AM
Mahomes is fun to watch. Kelce is crazy like his brother but this game will have the 2 best TEs right now.

Easy there.
Shoes will think you’re rubbing it in.
:chuckle:

st33lersguy
01-20-2020, 11:44 AM
I'm sure the ratings for this game will be up. People who were sick of the Patriots making it every year will likely watch for a new team

JnK
01-20-2020, 12:20 PM
Living in MO I'm obviously pulling for the Chiefs in this one. Like others have said I'd like to see Andy Reid finally get a ring. He certainly deserves one.

tube517
01-20-2020, 01:09 PM
Easy there.
Shoes will think you’re rubbing it in.
:chuckle:

:chuckle:

I would never rub it in to Shoes. I am with Shoes. We need a real TE now!

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I'm sure the ratings for this game will be up. People who were sick of the Patriots making it every year will likely watch for a new team

Pretty much. Everyone except the one Cheats** fan at my work is happy they are out.

AtlantaDan
01-20-2020, 01:20 PM
Start this thread off with an interesting stat:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200120/e772e06f9b52c943b18efaca8af16fea.jpg

Chiefs better enjoy that status while they can with Mahomes now three years through his five year rookie deal - his next contract is not just going to reset the market rate for QBs - it is going to blow it up

EzraTank
01-20-2020, 02:19 PM
I’m torn. Normally, I’d be all about keeping a team from getting as many Lombardis as us... but, I like the Niners. Maybe them catching up to us doesn’t bug me, because their fans aren’t a$$holes. :noidea:

I like Mahomes, but also I think he’ll have plenty of shots at a ring.

Niners now.
Chiefs later.
Steelers a few in between.

No thanks keep them at 5 please, plus as others have said I like Andy Reid and hope he gets his first ring. The dude lost a son to a drug overdose and has put his time in.

As for the game both teams will score but when it comes down to it which QB would you want in the crunch? Mahomes or Jimmy G? Mahomes will win that battle and as good as the 49ers defense is the Chiefs have too many weapons to shut down. The game plan for the Chiefs should be simple. Stack the box and force Jimmy G to throw. We all saw what he did against our team at home when he was pressured. 5+ turnovers.

Hawkman
01-20-2020, 02:49 PM
Chiefs and Reid.....Anyone who had to coach T.O. deserves a Lombardi!

......and of course, we don't want Shoes regretting missing out on Kittle any more than he already does.:chuckle:

vader29
01-20-2020, 03:43 PM
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silver & black
01-20-2020, 03:48 PM
I suppose I'll pull for the Chiefs since it's been 50 years since they won a SB. I think it will be a fun game to watch.... finally. The 9ers have the D and the Chiefs have the O. We'll see. I think the Chiefs offense will be too much for the 9ers, though.

Mach1
01-20-2020, 04:40 PM
Going with the Chefs.

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st33lersguy
01-20-2020, 05:09 PM
I think I am going to give a slight edge to the 49ers in a shootout Chiefs will score points but I think the 49ers pass rush can cause some problems. Down in the trenches they've been great

st33lersguy
01-20-2020, 09:11 PM
Some interesting facts

-A year after his offsides penalty cost the Chiefs, both Dee Ford and the Chiefs will be playing in the Super Bowl in a couple weeks (on separate teams)

-The Chiefs last Super Bowl win was 50 years ago, the 49ers last Super Bowl win was 25 years ago (their 2nd to last Super Bowl win was also 30 years ago)

-Multiple QBs played for both teams; Alex Smith, Steve DeBerg, Steve Bono, and most important of all Joe Montana

-Richard Sherman helped lift the 49ers to a Super Bowl 6 years to the day he tipped a pass that turned into an interception to defeat the 49ers and then trash talked Michael Crabtree. He of course had the final interception as well

-Andy Reid is 0-1 as a head coach in the Super Bowl, Kyle Shanahan is 0-1 as a coach in general (OC in particular). Both their losses came at the hand of the Patriots and mismanagement in the 4th quarter by both men played a large part in it

Fire Goodell
01-21-2020, 11:29 AM
When that KC offense is on, they're unbeatable. Mahomes is already looking like an alltime great, and I'm not too sold on Jimmy G. Rooting for KC in this one

hawaiiansteeler
01-21-2020, 12:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=140&v=jtY7mpss5tM&feature=emb_logo

tube517
01-21-2020, 04:34 PM
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CV1
01-21-2020, 05:28 PM
Have to root for the AFC.

Plus my BIL is a 9rs fan and when the Kap lead team lost I had a year of tormenting him.

Additionally, already sucks sharing 6 with one team...sharing 6 with another...deplorable [emoji23]


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BlackAndGold
01-22-2020, 04:44 AM
This could be a great game. I expect it'll be a high scoring game.


uniform/Jersey watch. The Chiefs are wearing their red/white home jersey. The same jersey they wore 50 years ago in the Super Bowl vs the Vikings. The 49ers of course will be wearing their away white/gold jersey. They are 2-0 while wearing that uniform in the Super Bowl.

AtlantaDan
01-22-2020, 10:45 AM
Rooting for the Niners making the two teams with 6 Lombardies from blue states on the east and west coasts.

You appear to have forgotten a third team that got to six first :coffee:

Fire Goodell
01-22-2020, 11:18 AM
If the niners defense can't get to Mahomes, the chiefs will win in a blowout. Nothing can stop that KC offense if Mahomes has time to throw. I don't see Jimmy G able to compete with Mahomes in a shootout. The SF front 4 needs to eat in order for SF to pull this off. With that said, that front 4 is the best in the NFL.

I'm thinking this will be a very good game. One of the most intriguing matchups in years to be honest.

AtlantaDan
01-22-2020, 11:20 AM
Oh that's right, my mistake. There is a team from flyover country with 6.

Pity for you those states and teams count too

Ever wonder why the NFL wants the Cowboys, Packers & Steelers on TV so much :rolleyes:

AtlantaDan
01-22-2020, 11:28 AM
If the niners defense can't get to Mahomes, the chiefs will win in a blowout. Nothing can stop that KC offense if Mahomes has time to throw. I don't see Jimmy G able to compete with Mahomes in a shootout. The SF front 4 needs to eat in order for SF to pull this off. With that said, that front 4 is the best in the NFL.

I'm thinking this will be a very good game. One of the most intriguing matchups in years to be honest.

That defensive front has the speed to give Mahomes a lot more trouble than he faced the past two games but may get gassed chasing him

Reminds me in some ways of the Giants-Bills Super Bowl when Buffalo had the unstoppable offense going in to the game but a combination of a good Belichick game plan on defense and keeping the ball away from Kelly by a run heavy offense with a journeyman QB worked (barely)

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:bounce:

That attitude has worked out so well for you so why quit now I guess :noidea:

teegre
01-22-2020, 10:24 PM
No thanks keep them at 5 please, plus as others have said I like Andy Reid and hope he gets his first ring. The dude lost a son to a drug overdose and has put his time in.

As for the game both teams will score but when it comes down to it which QB would you want in the crunch? Mahomes or Jimmy G? Mahomes will win that battle and as good as the 49ers defense is the Chiefs have too many weapons to shut down. The game plan for the Chiefs should be simple. Stack the box and force Jimmy G to throw. We all saw what he did against our team at home when he was pressured. 5+ turnovers.

I didn’t know that about Reid. And, I used to like Reid; my best friend in college is an Eagles fan. Buuuut, TeeTee turned me against Reid. :lol:

I’d take Mahomes against ANY quarterback. But, I’ll take that rock-solid D-line over Mahomes.

Mojouw
01-22-2020, 11:37 PM
I didn’t know that about Reid. And, I used to like Reid; my best friend in college is an Eagles fan. Buuuut, TeeTee turned me against Reid. :lol:

I’d take Mahomes against ANY quarterback. But, I’ll take that rock-solid D-line over Mahomes.

That's going to be the exciting match up. Mahomes versus the Niners front seven.

Can't wait.

teegre
01-23-2020, 06:44 AM
That's going to be the exciting match up. Mahomes versus the Niners front seven.

Can't wait.

Indeed. That is the matchup.

AtlantaDan
01-23-2020, 07:11 AM
Good to see Mahomes has respect for the other Chiefs QB who played in a Super Bowl

Len Dawson smoked his way through the first Super Bowl. The photos are priceless.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/23/len-dawson-cigarette-chiefs-super-bowl/
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/23/len-dawson-cigarette-chiefs-super-bowl/)
Training and conditioning practices of NFL players back in the day were less than optimal :chuckle:

Fire Goodell
01-23-2020, 10:44 AM
Training and conditioning practices of NFL players back in the day were less than optimal :chuckle:

Pretty much, football wasn't glamorous or a high-paying job before, it was just a bunch of dudes who wanted to play.

Born2Steel
01-23-2020, 07:07 PM
The closer we get to SB Sunday the more I have started to lean toward rooting for the Chiefs. I don't dislike this 49ers team nor am I smitten by this Chiefs team. I don't have a reason. I just find myself gravitating to pulling for the Chiefs.

I would give the Chiefs the advantage on offense and the 49ers the advantage on defense. I think most fans see it that way too. As good as the 49ers D is though, Garoppolo has turned the ball over 18 times this season. If Mahomes gets extra possessions it may not matter how good that defense is. Turnovers and penalties lose more games than anything else.

teegre
01-24-2020, 06:53 AM
In the final game of the Steelers’ regular season, the Steelers defense hit the opposing QB on every play. Every. Single. Play. It was an interesting gameplan, because if the opposing QB is going to run the ball, the defense can treat him like a RB.

Well... the Niners have flat-out stated that every time that Mahomes runs the ball, they are going to hit him.

Chiefs fans are outraged, but the Niners aren’t doing anything wrong. They’re just trying to limit one of Mahomes’s weapons: his legs.

SUMMATION:
As stated earlier, this game will come down to Mahomes versus the Niners’ front seven.

Born2Steel
01-24-2020, 07:47 AM
In the final game of the Steelers’ regular season, the Steelers defense hit the opposing QB on every play. Every. Single. Play. It was an interesting gameplan, because if the opposing QB is going to run the ball, the defense can treat him like a RB.

Well... the Niners have flat-out stated that every time that Mahomes runs the ball, they are going to hit him.

Chiefs fans are outraged, but the Niners aren’t doing anything wrong. They’re just trying to limit one of Mahomes’s weapons: his legs.

SUMMATION:
As stated earlier, this game will come down to Mahomes versus the Niners’ front seven.

While that is a good interesting strategy the Steelers lost that game 28-10. I really expect a good game for the SB. But if Garoppolo turns the ball over Mahomes and co will score on an extra possession or 2. Even FGs could mean more the way this game shapes up. No TOs maybe the advantage does go to the 49ers D. Gonna be a fun one to watch this year.

JnK
01-24-2020, 08:04 AM
Good to see Mahomes has respect for the other Chiefs QB who played in a Super Bowl

Len Dawson smoked his way through the first Super Bowl. The photos are priceless.

1217606018508693505



1073346456604602368

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/23/len-dawson-cigarette-chiefs-super-bowl/
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/23/len-dawson-cigarette-chiefs-super-bowl/)
Training and conditioning practices of NFL players back in the day were less than optimal :chuckle:


Not to mention smoking back then certainly wasn't the social no-no that it is today.

Fire Goodell
01-24-2020, 11:40 AM
In the final game of the Steelers’ regular season, the Steelers defense hit the opposing QB on every play. Every. Single. Play. It was an interesting gameplan, because if the opposing QB is going to run the ball, the defense can treat him like a RB.

Well... the Niners have flat-out stated that every time that Mahomes runs the ball, they are going to hit him.

Chiefs fans are outraged, but the Niners aren’t doing anything wrong. They’re just trying to limit one of Mahomes’s weapons: his legs.

SUMMATION:
As stated earlier, this game will come down to Mahomes versus the Niners’ front seven.

Well injuring Mahomes is one of the ways to stop the Chiefs. They looked like the best team in the league until he got banged up. Then when he got healthy again they went on a tear. SF does know they have to get to him if they want to win. As good as their defense is, I think Mahomes will shred them if he has time to throw.

Moose
01-24-2020, 12:50 PM
Kansas City wins. Both have awesome QBs, but I think the Chiefs have a better all around team......offense and defense and that's going to be the difference.

steel striker
01-24-2020, 01:39 PM
I would rather see KC win and, Andy Reid is a good coach. Mahomes is a special talent and, the WR's are explosive as well. Kelce might be the best TE in the NFL but, the Niners look pretty tough as well.

hawaiiansteeler
01-24-2020, 02:12 PM
Kansas City wins. Both have awesome QBs, but I think the Chiefs have a better all around team......offense and defense and that's going to be the difference.

KC fell behind 24-0 to the Texans, that worries me.

I'll side with the 49ers and the points...

DesertSteel
01-28-2020, 12:33 PM
Hunt said being a father has been good for Hill.

"We've seen Tyreek with his son here over the last couple of years," Hunt said. "I think to a person, people in the organization would tell you that he's an outstanding father."
You know... other than breaking his arm...

hawaiiansteeler
01-28-2020, 01:04 PM
You know... other than breaking his arm...

well yeah, except for that small detail...

pczach
01-28-2020, 01:50 PM
You know... other than breaking his arm...


People get worked up about the silliest things......like breaking a child's arm.

There has to be a special place in hell for anyone that would hurt a child. :mad2:

Fire Goodell
01-28-2020, 02:12 PM
You know... other than breaking his arm...

He's still got more to do if he wants to win the Adrian Peterson "Father of the Year" award

AtlantaDan
01-28-2020, 02:19 PM
People get worked up about the silliest things......like breaking a child's arm.

There has to be a special place in hell for anyone that would hurt a child. :mad2:

Well he was selected to play in the Pro Bowl, which is Satan's idea of a football game

The Chiefs owner becoming a gushing fanboy while discussing Hill is yet another example of my favorite sound bite from a Super Bowl winning team's locker room


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OencLhL4UPc

AtlantaDan
01-28-2020, 02:29 PM
In the final game of the Steelers’ regular season, the Steelers defense hit the opposing QB on every play. Every. Single. Play. It was an interesting gameplan, because if the opposing QB is going to run the ball, the defense can treat him like a RB.

Same game plan the Niners implemented in the Ravens game when they limited the future of football to 20 points while Harbaugh bitched about it

[Richard] Sherman said Harbaugh claimed he hit Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson late on a play in the third quarter. But the 49ers’ veteran corner said Jackson’s running ability put him in a difficult spot and that he didn’t intend to make any unnecessary hits.

“The quarterback was running like a running back,” Sherman said. “If you don’t touch him, then he runs up the sideline, and if you do touch him, it’s like everyone is throwing up the hubbub.”

https://www.pennlive.com/baltimore-ravens/2019/12/its-unfortunate-ravens-49ers-discuss-hits-lamar-jackson-took-during-baltimores-win.html

86WARD
01-28-2020, 03:14 PM
People get worked up about the silliest things......like breaking a child's arm.

There has to be a special place in hell for anyone that would hurt a child. :mad2:

6 weeks it’ll be as good as new and maybe stronger!

teegre
01-29-2020, 06:50 AM
While that is a good interesting strategy the Steelers lost that game 28-10. I really expect a good game for the SB. But if Garoppolo turns the ball over Mahomes and co will score on an extra possession or 2. Even FGs could mean more the way this game shapes up. No TOs maybe the advantage does go to the 49ers D. Gonna be a fun one to watch this year.

There was a series of three plays in a row where we gave up a TD, gave up a safety, and then, gave up a TD. It was a 16 point swing. Until then, we trailed by about a FG. If we had a QB who wasn’t prone to turning the ball over (I don’t even want him to score) it’s a totally different ballgame.

Plus, during that three-play/three-score fiasco, the Titans had simultaneously gone up by 14 (or was it 21? :huh: )... and you could see the wind leave our sails.

One final thought: down by 3, Devin Bush drops a sure-thing pick-six that would have given us the lead. I wonder how different the game would have been had we gone up by 4... as opposed to suddenly falling behind by 16.

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Well injuring Mahomes is one of the ways to stop the Chiefs. They looked like the best team in the league until he got banged up. Then when he got healthy again they went on a tear. SF does know they have to get to him if they want to win. As good as their defense is, I think Mahomes will shred them if he has time to throw.

To be clear, I am not saying they should attempt to injure Mahomes.

I am saying they should hit him like a RB when he runs, because it will likely keep him from running as much. Making Mahomes think about those hits might eliminate his propensity to run... which is a lot of what Mahomes does to extend plays.

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Same game plan the Niners implemented in the Ravens game when they limited the future of football to 20 points while Harbaugh bitched about it

[Richard] Sherman said Harbaugh claimed he hit Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson late on a play in the third quarter. But the 49ers’ veteran corner said Jackson’s running ability put him in a difficult spot and that he didn’t intend to make any unnecessary hits.

“The quarterback was running like a running back,” Sherman said. “If you don’t touch him, then he runs up the sideline, and if you do touch him, it’s like everyone is throwing up the hubbub.”

https://www.pennlive.com/baltimore-ravens/2019/12/its-unfortunate-ravens-49ers-discuss-hits-lamar-jackson-took-during-baltimores-win.html

Exactly :nod:

EzraTank
01-29-2020, 09:41 AM
This is the Superbowl, at this point there is no next week so I don't think the Niners are going to hit Mahomes and keep him from running. Think Elway selling his old body out for yardage.

And Mahomes doesn't need to run for yardage. If he rolls out (like Russell Wilson) and buys time to throw as long as he's behind the LOS he can't be hit like a RB. What QB gave the Niners the most fits this year? Russell Wilson. The Seahawks were a 1/2 yard away from sweeping the Niners this season.

teegre
01-30-2020, 06:28 AM
This is the Superbowl, at this point there is no next week so I don't think the Niners are going to hit Mahomes and keep him from running. Think Elway selling his old body out for yardage.

And Mahomes doesn't need to run for yardage. If he rolls out (like Russell Wilson) and buys time to throw as long as he's behind the LOS he can't be hit like a RB. What QB gave the Niners the most fits this year? Russell Wilson. The Seahawks were a 1/2 yard away from sweeping the Niners this season.

Those are some excellent points. :nod:

I guess that when I saw Mahomes run for a few first downs (against the Titans), the Titans defenders eased up as Mahomes ran out of bounds. Those were back-breakers, because the secondary had done a good job of covering AND the pass rush had flushed Mahomes out of the pocket... only to give up a long run/first down.

I expect that if Mahomes runs, he will be hit. Every time.

Fire Goodell
01-31-2020, 01:41 PM
Those are some excellent points. :nod:

I guess that when I saw Mahomes run for a few first downs (against the Titans), the Titans defenders eased up as Mahomes ran out of bounds. Those were back-breakers, because the secondary had done a good job of covering AND the pass rush had flushed Mahomes out of the pocket... only to give up a long run/first down.

I expect that if Mahomes runs, he will be hit. Every time.

Maybe a no win situation. Mahomes is the new golden boy, you can guarantee if he gets hit near the sideline that's an automatic 15 yard flag right there

AtlantaDan
01-31-2020, 02:26 PM
Might end up like the 49ers-Miami Super Bowl (not a blowout like that game but a 49ers win) where the unstoppable Dolphins passing offense in Marino's second year met its match against the more complete team.

Three of the Chiefs’ highest-scoring games this season came against defenses ranked 23rd or worse. Two of their three lowest-scoring games came against defenses ranked in the top 10. The 49ers’ defense is the fifth best at limiting points scored per drive. It’s that excellence on both sides of the ball that should give San Francisco the edge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/30/super-bowl-prediction-49ers-chiefs/

The game and rules changes may now be to the point where a great passing offense simply overwhelms everything - I hope not. I like Mahomes but like a sport that does not skew too heavily in favor of defense (70s until the late 70s rules changes) or offense (now) even more.

Fire Goodell
01-31-2020, 02:57 PM
Might end up like the 49ers-Miami Super Bowl (not a blowout like that game but a 49ers win) where the unstoppable Dolphins passing offense in Marino's second year met its match against the more complete team.

Three of the Chiefs’ highest-scoring games this season came against defenses ranked 23rd or worse. Two of their three lowest-scoring games came against defenses ranked in the top 10. The 49ers’ defense is the fifth best at limiting points scored per drive. It’s that excellence on both sides of the ball that should give San Francisco the edge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/30/super-bowl-prediction-49ers-chiefs/

The game and rules changes may now be to the point where a great passing offense simply overwhelms everything - I hope not. I like Mahomes but like a sport that does not skew too heavily in favor of defense (70s until the late 70s rules changes) or offense (now) even more.

It's different this time. Garrappolo is no Montana. I think he's a good QB, but Montana was great.

tube517
01-31-2020, 03:09 PM
Might end up like the 49ers-Miami Super Bowl (not a blowout like that game but a 49ers win) where the unstoppable Dolphins passing offense in Marino's second year met its match against the more complete team.

Three of the Chiefs’ highest-scoring games this season came against defenses ranked 23rd or worse. Two of their three lowest-scoring games came against defenses ranked in the top 10. The 49ers’ defense is the fifth best at limiting points scored per drive. It’s that excellence on both sides of the ball that should give San Francisco the edge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/30/super-bowl-prediction-49ers-chiefs/

The game and rules changes may now be to the point where a great passing offense simply overwhelms everything - I hope not. I like Mahomes but like a sport that does not skew too heavily in favor of defense (70s until the late 70s rules changes) or offense (now) even more.

Wow, I just thought of the SB XIX comparison. Great minds think alike LOL

tube517
01-31-2020, 03:29 PM
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AtlantaDan
01-31-2020, 04:30 PM
It's different this time. Garrappolo is no Montana. I think he's a good QB, but Montana was great.

Which is why that game was a 38-16 blowout - I certainly am not expecting a repeat of that

If the Niners have to score in the mid-30s to win I agree Jimmy G will not get it done

Niners defense needs to keep Mahomes in the 20s, which IMO is difficult but not impossible

Six Rings
01-31-2020, 06:57 PM
I think Kanas City will win by 10 points or more. San Fran's margin of error is thin. In the Super Bowl, the greater QB by clear majority wins almost every time, barring a Defense and Great running game for the other team.

pczach
01-31-2020, 10:08 PM
This game is basicly a pick em' game for good reason. Both of these teams are capable of beating the other even if the other team plays well.

Sure, one team could have a bad day and it could be a lopsided victory, but these are two quality teams.

The 49ers are a complete team on both sides of the ball.

The Chiefs became a complete team when they got healthy and the defense emerged in the second half of the season...and they have the best quarterback on the planet right now.

This should be a great game if both teams bring their best.

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 08:40 AM
One thing for sure. If it's close and it requires a good decision by Big red.... Clock management, challenges. It'll be interesting.

I think 9ers D is better than Chiefs.

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86WARD
02-02-2020, 07:16 PM
I could watch Shakira shake her ass for !the whole game...lol.

steelreserve
02-02-2020, 07:17 PM
Fun football fact of the day: The tradition of an extended halftime show began in Super Bowl I, when Vince Lombardi had to take the hugest dump.

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 07:18 PM
NFL doing some serious Mexico outreach. I mean damn it was about all in Spanish

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NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 07:18 PM
At what point does Jlo get naked. I mean damn !

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tom444
02-02-2020, 07:24 PM
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JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 07:35 PM
Wow the reverses are working.

vader29
02-02-2020, 07:37 PM
I could watch Shakira shake her ass for !the whole game...lol.

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JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 07:44 PM
Which ever team runs the Wildcat wins this game!

st33lersguy
02-02-2020, 07:46 PM
Lots of time consuming drives, from both teams. For as explosive as the Chiefs are, they can also run time consuming drives

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 07:51 PM
Mahommie just pulled a Duck!

steelcityboyz
02-02-2020, 07:53 PM
You can never count the chiefs out, but the 49ers look like the better team right now.

steelreserve
02-02-2020, 08:04 PM
I was really surprised to see the Chiefs as slight favorites, to be honest. Put some money on the Niners straight up. Chiefs to score under 27.5 is looking good as well. (SF only gave up more than 27 once all year).

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 08:14 PM
Oh my what a Hill.

st33lersguy
02-02-2020, 08:15 PM
Another INT. Tyreek's fault. Btw, no. 91 of the 49ers was offsides on that last sack

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 08:15 PM
71 on chiefs been false staring all night atleast two pretty obvious

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pczach
02-02-2020, 08:15 PM
The Chiefs were the better team early, but Shanahan did a good job with some play calling using misdirection and motion.

Andy Reid hasn't done a good job of making adjustments, and so far Mahomes has been confused on some throws, and has been inaccurate on some other ones.

You would think he'd be putting Hill in motion more and making the defense have a difficult time trying to double him to take him away.

Mahomes is flat out stinking it up on some of these throws and reads so far.

pczach
02-02-2020, 08:18 PM
Another INT. Tyreek's fault. Btw, no. 91 of the 49ers was offsides on that last sack


Mahomes threw the ball way behind the WR.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 08:18 PM
Kittle is a beast!

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 08:20 PM
And here comes the refs to make it a game

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st33lersguy
02-02-2020, 08:22 PM
Kyle Shanahan and clock management in the Super Bowl just do not mix

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 08:22 PM
Oh look no call on offsides or late hit out of bounds.

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steelreserve
02-02-2020, 08:30 PM
Oh look no call on offsides or late hit out of bounds.

there is no such thing as a late hit out of bounds

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 08:33 PM
Just when I was going to say Hill is killing his team. He redeem himself and game on

steelreserve
02-02-2020, 08:36 PM
Those kinds of PI calls are bogus. "Didn't turn back to play the ball, let's throw a flag even if he didn't actually interfere. Free touchdown."

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 08:37 PM
Why would the 49ers leave Kelece wide open in the endzone ?

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Those kinds of PI calls are bogus. "Didn't turn back to play the ball, let's throw a flag even if he didn't actually interfere. Free touchdown." Think it was a good call and left the player no chance to catch it!

pczach
02-02-2020, 08:39 PM
Why would the 49ers leave Kelece wide open in the endzone ?


Guys leave their coverage responsibility to sell out to stuff the run. I know they shouldn't, but they see the fake to the back and they go for it trying to make a play.

st33lersguy
02-02-2020, 08:42 PM
Those kinds of PI calls are bogus. "Didn't turn back to play the ball, let's throw a flag even if he didn't actually interfere. Free touchdown."

So jumping up to the guys face to block it all of a sudden is not interfering?

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 08:43 PM
Guys leave their coverage responsibility to sell out to stuff the run. I know they shouldn't, but they see the fake to the back and they go for it trying to make a play. I get ya but the dude is Mahomes main weapon and you cover his ass!

st33lersguy
02-02-2020, 08:43 PM
It's amazing how Kyle Shanahan turns into a complete moron in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 08:47 PM
It's amazing how Kyle Shanahan turns into a complete moron in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl Tom Brady agrees!

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 08:49 PM
A

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 08:50 PM
They'll be another after thought next year

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Shoes
02-02-2020, 09:02 PM
Very happy for Andy!

NCSteeler
02-02-2020, 09:02 PM
A

steelcityboyz
02-02-2020, 09:04 PM
Go Chiefs!!

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 09:06 PM
Decent game and fun and going to smoke up before Masked Singer! Nite all!

steelreserve
02-02-2020, 09:08 PM
That had to be one of the worst fourth-quarter collapses in postseason history!

pczach
02-02-2020, 09:08 PM
The Chiefs scored touchdowns on three consecutive drives at the end of the game against the best defense in football. They earned this victory.

st33lersguy
02-02-2020, 09:12 PM
I feel so happy for Andy Reid watching him

Falcons fans are probably laughing their asses off at Shanahan right now

Mojouw
02-02-2020, 09:16 PM
The Chiefs scored touchdowns on three consecutive drives at the end of the game against the best defense in football. They earned this victory.

It's like tyeyve just been throwing jabs for a half game on offense all playoffs. Then get their read on the opponents plan and kick their offense into gear.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-02-2020, 09:17 PM
I feel so happy for Andy Reid watching him

Falcons fans are probably laughing their asses off at Shanahan right now At least he didn't give the Pats another gifted SB! Shanny is very generous and decide to give KC one as well!

fansince'76
02-02-2020, 09:18 PM
Happy for Reid. Finally he wasn't hamstrung by his QB.

Edman
02-02-2020, 09:19 PM
That's three winnable super bowls blown by Coaches outsmarting themselves. Twice by the same guy. All of them from the Seahawks.

Congrats to the Chiefs. Andy Reid got the monkey off his back.

Shoes
02-02-2020, 09:22 PM
Happy for Reid. Finally he wasn't hamstrung by his QB.


You got that right. Happy for both Reid and Mahomes.

pczach
02-02-2020, 09:24 PM
It's like tyeyve just been throwing jabs for a half game on offense all playoffs. Then get their read on the opponents plan and kick their offense into gear.



They connected on that deep pass to Hill, and they just ignited. Once they figure out how to counter what a defense is doing, they start rolling and it's like a dam breaks and they just overwhelm defenses.

Mahomes was terrible for most of that game and they still put up 31 on that defense.

fansince'76
02-02-2020, 09:26 PM
You got that right. Happy for both Reid and Mahomes.

Yep. McNabb was a choker and he wasn't winning anything with Alex Smith either.

AtlantaDan
02-02-2020, 09:34 PM
Niners defense did its part holding Mahomes in the 20s until the late garbage time TD

Jimmy G is not elite - Shanahan planned for how to keep him from losing the game rather than win it - not taking the timeout to stop the clock with 1:30 in the first half before the Chiefs punt showed his plan on that

steelreserve
02-02-2020, 09:44 PM
Niners defense did its part holding Mahomes in the 20s until the late garbage time TD

Jimmy G is not elite - Shanahan planned for how to keep him from losing the game rather than win it - not taking the timeout to stop the clock with 1:30 in the first half before the Chiefs punt showed his plan on that

I don't understand a lot of what the 49ers did offensively ... Garoppolo may not be the greatest QB who ever lived, but he doesn't have to be ... they have a ton of weapons and he is not the main one, all the QB has to do is be decent. They moved the ball well all game until they just flat-out choked when it counted.

BnG_Hevn
02-02-2020, 09:53 PM
With any luck Mahomes will win 6 SBs and take all the stats away from Brady. With any luck.

Rotorhead
02-02-2020, 09:58 PM
That miss to Manny Sanders toward the end was the nail in the coffin. Also, settling for 10-10 in the first half instead of trying to get at least a FG was stupid in this game. It’s the Super Bowl dammit, you have to play to win! That being said, it was a good game and I am glad the the 49ers didn’t get #6

EzraTank
02-02-2020, 10:22 PM
Niners defense did its part holding Mahomes in the 20s until the late garbage time TD

Jimmy G is not elite - Shanahan planned for how to keep him from losing the game rather than win it - not taking the timeout to stop the clock with 1:30 in the first half before the Chiefs punt showed his plan on thatI said this way back at the start of the thread. Jimmy G is not an elite QB. When pressured he makes mistakes. He k we almost beat them with Mason Rudolph.

Had Mahomes been on the Chiefs win even bigger. Mahomes stunk for stretches in this game.

EzraTank
02-02-2020, 10:29 PM
Watching the moron Deion Sanders on the NFL network constantly talk about Lamar Jackson when asked if Mahomes is better.

Jackson is going to be a one trick pony, thinking he's as good as Mahomes is ridiculous. Stop Jackson from running like the Titans did and he's not a good QB.

Fire Goodell
02-02-2020, 10:52 PM
I said this way back at the start of the thread. Jimmy G is not an elite QB. When pressured he makes mistakes. He k we almost beat them with Mason Rudolph.

Had Mahomes been on the Chiefs win even bigger. Mahomes stunk for stretches in this game.

He did have the pass rush in his face almost the entire game until they went in hurry up mode. I thought he played a good game, not great but obviously good enough to get the W

the refs kinda botched some calls, Jimmy G took a helmet shot and no personal foul was called, I was shocked. one call the SF offense snapped the ball nearly 2-3 seconds after the play clock was at zero. and another play where a KC defender was clearly offsides and nothing called

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That miss to Manny Sanders toward the end was the nail in the coffin. Also, settling for 10-10 in the first half instead of trying to get at least a FG was stupid in this game. It’s the Super Bowl dammit, you have to play to win! That being said, it was a good game and I am glad the the 49ers didn’t get #6

Yeah I couldn't understand that. 50 seconds and 3 timeouts is a LOT of time to at least put a field goal drive together.

AtlantaDan
02-02-2020, 11:10 PM
So basically the Steelers-Cardinals Super Bowl tonight where an excellent defense craters in the 4th quarter to give up a double digit lead except this time the come from behind drive in the last 2 minutes runs out of gas like the end of the Packers-Steelers Super Bowl

Fire Goodell
02-02-2020, 11:40 PM
On another note, Shakira hasn't changed a bit in 20 years, she's still smoking hot

Shoes
02-02-2020, 11:56 PM
Terrell Suggs made a good move to get his 2nd SB ring this season.

vader29
02-03-2020, 04:35 AM
:lol:

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fansince'76
02-03-2020, 05:20 AM
the refs kinda botched some calls, Jimmy G took a helmet shot and no personal foul was called, I was shocked. one call the SF offense snapped the ball nearly 2-3 seconds after the play clock was at zero. and another play where a KC defender was clearly offsides and nothing called

If it's the play I'm thinking of, Buck and (especially) Aikman were wrong about him jumping offsides, and on the review it looked like he timed the snap perfectly.

teegre
02-03-2020, 06:41 AM
The game was much closer than the 31-20 score indicates. It felt like 24-20. Here’s a few reasons that the Niners lost:

-At the end of the first half, the Niners could have had the ball with about 1:40 left (after using one of their three time outs). Instead, the Niners bleed the clock down to 0:20... and then they started to try to move the ball downfield. :huh: Seriously, what were they thinking!?! That was plenty of time to get a FG (which would have been huge later).

-On the Niners’ FG drive in the third quarter, Manny Sanders gets held by the arm. No DPI. It would have been first down at about the 20. Instead, it’s a FG. That 4 points would be huuuge.

-On the flip side, the Niners DB got called for a DPI on third down. It was a shitty throw that hit him in the butt. How is a DB supposed to play that!?! Really. Instead of a FG, it became first-&-goal from the one. That 4 points was huuuuuge!!!

-Garappolo got hit in the facemask three times. Not one “roughing the passer” call.

-Earier in the game (I’m not sure when), Garappolo throws the ball behind Manny Sanders. Sanders has to slow down/reach back. It’s still a big gain, but if Garappolo leads Sanders, it’s a TD.

-On the final drive, Garappolo overthrows Sanders. That TD would have given the Niners the lead with about 1:30 left in the game.

SUMMATION:
The Niners lost because of the trifecta: bad coaching decision(s), the refs, and poor QB play.

EzraTank
02-03-2020, 07:18 AM
I could watch Shakira shake her ass for !the whole game...lol.

I swear at one point you could see JLO's birth canal.

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He did have the pass rush in his face almost the entire game until they went in hurry up mode. I thought he played a good game, not great but obviously good enough to get the W

the refs kinda botched some calls, Jimmy G took a helmet shot and no personal foul was called, I was shocked. one call the SF offense snapped the ball nearly 2-3 seconds after the play clock was at zero. and another play where a KC defender was clearly offsides and nothing called



As Fan76 said on the replay you can tell the KC guy just timed it perfectly (i.e. Troy jumping over the LOS perfect). There were bad calls both ways. I saw a couple of hands to the face on Mahomes as well that were let go. I think the crew did a good job of letting them play.

I'm glad they called Kittle for pushing off. I'm so sick of the offense getting away with that for years and years. That's one new rule change I love. Michael Irving wouldn't be in the hall of fame if they called that back when he played.

As far as Jimmy G, he had Sanders wide open right after KC scored an missed him badly. As someone said in one of the post game shows, "you have to make that throw in the Superbowl".

AtlantaDan
02-03-2020, 07:26 AM
Another Super Bowl 4th quarter masterpiece from Kyle Shanahan

Shanahan and the 49ers have an offensive identity of their own, based on the run game (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/01/31/outside-zone-blocking-49ers/?tid=lk_inline_manual_9). And yet after Mahomes was intercepted with 12 minutes to play in the fourth quarter and San Francisco leading, 20-10, the 49ers ran the ball only five more times, gaining 32 yards. They attempted to pass it 12 times in that span. Quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo completed just three of his last 11 attempts and was intercepted once; another pass play ended in a sack.

In those two Super Bowls, Shanahan’s offenses have now been outscored 46-0 in the fourth quarter and overtime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/02/03/kyle-shanahan-super-bowl-lead/

BlackAndGold
02-03-2020, 08:05 AM
A fantastic game.

Mahomes is on his way to being an all time great, won't be shocking if he is in the GOAT conversation within 10 years.

Mojouw
02-03-2020, 08:53 AM
Kicked FGs instead of TDs. Combine that with the clear indications that Shannahan had zero interest in his QB making plays and the result isn't surprising.

They are paying a guy they don't trust in big moments $25 million.

Fire Goodell
02-03-2020, 10:07 AM
A fantastic game.

Mahomes is on his way to being an all time great, won't be shocking if he is in the GOAT conversation within 10 years.

he will be, the kid is unbelievable.

AtlantaDan
02-03-2020, 10:14 AM
Kicked FGs instead of TDs. Combine that with the clear indications that Shannahan had zero interest in his QB making plays and the result isn't surprising.

They are paying a guy they don't trust in big moments $25 million.

Overpaying for someone if they have been a member of the supporting cast in New England applies to backup QBs as well as assistants who failed as head coaches

Fire Goodell
02-03-2020, 10:18 AM
I really think the up-tempo offense could have been used earlier. The pass rush was in Mahomes' face all game, but as soon as they made a few first downs in the hurry-up offense, the SF pass rush started to tire. At one point Bosa had to take himself off the field cause he was sucking wind. That's when KC's offense started to have their way. Either way, they got the W but man, like teegre said the game was a lot closer than the score says.

EzraTank
02-03-2020, 10:26 AM
LOL, wrong but so funny.

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Notice the score in the game as well ...

vader29
02-03-2020, 11:57 AM
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tube517
02-03-2020, 12:04 PM
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j-d-s
02-03-2020, 04:25 PM
I'm happy with KC's win. I've never liked SF anyway (can't say why, I just don't like them) and Andy Reid really deserves it, and it is important for his legacy not to become the second Marty Schottenheimer, who was a great regular season coach but never managed success in the playoffs.

But in my mind it was an uphill battle for SF to begin with because winning the SB without an elite QB is difficult - and Jimmy G just isn't elite. Maybe he can be elite, but right now, he's more the Kirk Cousins type.