Browns fire Freddie Kitchens [Archive]

AtlantaDan

12-29-2019, 08:26 PM

Freddie Kitchens gone after last summer's preseason Super Bowl champs finish up 6-10 with a loss to the Bengals today

Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam will be conducting their fifth head coaching search since they took over the team in 2012.

“We thank Freddie for his hard work and commitment to this organization but did not see the success or opportunities for improvement to move forward with him as our head coach,'' they said in a joint statement....

Rarely has a head coach in the NFL done so little with so much talent, and the Browns had no choice but to cut their losses after an abysmal performance in what was supposed to be a playoff season.http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/images/smilies/chuckle.gif

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/12/freddie-kitchens-is-one-and-done-fired-by-the-browns-after-his-6-10-season-per-reports.html

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Sorry to see him go - always the danger the Browns might get a head coaching hire right eventually

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Mods - I did not see the earlier thread on Freddie - please merge - Thx

Mojouw

12-29-2019, 08:50 PM

I really thought they'd finally put it all together.

Butch

12-29-2019, 09:38 PM

Well Damn

What's next they fire their GM? Get rid of their front office? Draft another QB??? hmmm deja vu all over again???

FrancoLambert

12-29-2019, 10:06 PM

It was the tee shirt incident.

86WARD

12-30-2019, 06:45 AM

Darn. Was hoping he’d stick around a bit longer...

Crow-Magnon

12-30-2019, 07:52 AM

Darn. Was hoping he’d stick around a bit longer...

Does it really matter? Cleveland is like a black hole. HC get hired and it sucks the life out of them. It’s a foregone conclusion!

86WARD

12-30-2019, 10:19 AM

I guess not...lol

AtlantaDan

12-30-2019, 10:35 AM

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j-d-s

12-30-2019, 11:24 AM

Please Browns, hire Marvin Lewis.

AtlantaDan

12-30-2019, 11:30 AM

Please Browns, hire Marvin Lewis.

Fortunately it looks like Washington is going to hire Ron Rivera, after Bruce Allen was canned to allow their new HC more control, and take that option off the table for the Browns

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28395153/sources-redskins-set-hire-ron-rivera-coach-fire-president-bruce-allen

The Browns have requested permission to interview New England Patriots (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots) offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels for their head-coaching vacancy, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The Carolina Panthers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers) and New York Giants (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) also have requested an interview with McDaniels.

The Browns also have requested permission to interview Baltimore Ravens (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens) offensive coordinator Greg Roman, a source told Schefter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28392706/browns-fire-coach-freddie-kitchens-1-season-6-10-finish

Other than Munchak (who IMO Elway was recruiting for the Denver OL coach position with the interview), when was the last time a team asked permission to interview a Steelers assistant for a HC job? :noidea:

(https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28392706/browns-fire-coach-freddie-kitchens-1-season-6-10-finish)

tube517

12-30-2019, 12:36 PM

Fortunately it looks like Washington is going to hire Ron Rivera, after Bruce Allen was canned to allow their new HC more control, and take that option off the table for the Browns

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28395153/sources-redskins-set-hire-ron-rivera-coach-fire-president-bruce-allen

The Browns have requested permission to interview New England Patriots (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots) offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels for their head-coaching vacancy, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The Carolina Panthers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers) and New York Giants (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) also have requested an interview with McDaniels.

The Browns also have requested permission to interview Baltimore Ravens (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens) offensive coordinator Greg Roman, a source told Schefter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28392706/browns-fire-coach-freddie-kitchens-1-season-6-10-finish

Josh McDaniels lol. What a crapfest coaching job he did in Denver.

Moose

12-30-2019, 12:47 PM

Please Browns, hire Marvin Lewis.

That would be totally AWESOME !!!! It would make our division play soooooo interesting......Cleve. vs Cincy games I wouldn't want to miss!!! LOL.

Fire Goodell

12-30-2019, 12:56 PM

I thought the Browns were sticking with Kitchens? Though I guess losing to the Bengals really throws a wrench in that lol.

But the responsibility is on him. With the talent the Browns have, anything less than a 9-7 season is a disappointment. I mean we all saw how good they could be if they had their sh** together. They crushed the ravens, and I honestly think talent wise, they are THAT good. Problem is talent and production aren't on the same page.

86WARD

12-30-2019, 03:50 PM

If I were taking in the Browns, first thing I’d do is dump Beckham and probably have to dump Landry as well...pending him being all butthurt over Beckham being dumped...

Fire Goodell

12-30-2019, 04:56 PM

If I were taking in the Browns, first thing I’d do is dump Beckham and probably have to dump Landry as well...pending him being all butthurt over Beckham being dumped...

No win situation for them, they really got themselves in an "AB" situation. Keep them and run the risk (a good risk) of the circus continuing and getting worse, with occasional glimpses of 'what should be' that just leads to more letdowns. Or dump them both and be doomed to a 1-15 season or worse

pepsyman1

12-30-2019, 07:35 PM

That team is their own worst enemy. How many 1 and 2 year head coaches can you keep going thru expecting it to change? Hue Jackson was the only guy Haslam gave any time to see what improvements could be made. Greg Williams had some real momentum at the end of last year, they should have kept him.

pczach

12-30-2019, 08:24 PM

It was the tee shirt incident.

I found a new gig for him that he is eminently qualified to do.

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smokin3000gt

12-30-2019, 08:50 PM

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What blows me away is there are still people who are willing to take the job as Browns HC. It's going to be a shit show, you're going to get fired after a single season, and it will be a stain (no pun) on your career. Yet people are still lining up for it.

Shoes

12-30-2019, 09:20 PM

Fortunately it looks like Washington is going to hire Ron Rivera, after Bruce Allen was canned to allow their new HC more control, and take that option off the table for the Browns

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28395153/sources-redskins-set-hire-ron-rivera-coach-fire-president-bruce-allen

The Browns have requested permission to interview New England Patriots (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots) offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels for their head-coaching vacancy, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter. The Carolina Panthers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers) and New York Giants (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) also have requested an interview with McDaniels.

The Browns also have requested permission to interview Baltimore Ravens (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens) offensive coordinator Greg Roman, a source told Schefter.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28392706/browns-fire-coach-freddie-kitchens-1-season-6-10-finish

Other than Munchak (who IMO Elway was recruiting for the Denver OL coach position with the interview), when was the last time a team asked permission to interview a Steelers assistant for a HC job? :noidea:

(https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28392706/browns-fire-coach-freddie-kitchens-1-season-6-10-finish)

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stillers4me

12-31-2019, 09:00 AM

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AtlantaDan

12-31-2019, 03:52 PM

86WARD

12-31-2019, 04:11 PM

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Totally blowing it up (again) in Cleveland

Potential HC hires presumably said get back to me if Dorsey goes otherwise no thanks

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Dorsey built a pretty good team...give that team to Andy Reid and oh boy...glad to see they let go of the most competent person there...

Thinking maybe McCarthy? Although I saw he may be interviewing with the Jets.

silver & black

12-31-2019, 06:11 PM

Wow. That was a big mistake. Dorsey built what is esentially KC's team as it is. I understand getting Kitchens out, but this is utter stupidity IMO.

Mojouw

12-31-2019, 06:16 PM

Wow. That was a big mistake. Dorsey built what is esentially KC's team as it is. I understand getting Kitchens out, but this is utter stupidity IMO.

Ok. Good to hear that someone else can't wrap their heads around this either. Thought it was just me!

NCSteeler

12-31-2019, 06:21 PM

It Cleveland being well Cleveland. One and done is like a motto there. And now the GM who really found a way to build a solid roster. I'm not sure who said it above. But I do agree they could luck up and hire a decent coach. Damn I hope not

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Butch

12-31-2019, 06:45 PM

Well Damn

What's next they fire their GM? Get rid of their front office? Draft another QB??? hmmm deja vu all over again???

2 down 2 to go. Do you think they will hit for the cycle again this year???

silver & black

12-31-2019, 07:00 PM

I live 50 miles south of Cleveland. I have family there. I would love to see the Browns become relevant again. I'm not a fan, but it would be good for the league if one of the most storied franchises in the NFL would become a viable team again. I don't understand what it is with the Browns.... WHY can't thet get it right!???? WHY do they continually do such stupid shit!!!??? So much talent on that roster right now.................. and they continue to just fuck it up!

DesertSteel

12-31-2019, 07:32 PM

Butch

12-31-2019, 09:36 PM

Right now it’s HORRIBLE ownership. He has not a single clue on how to run an NFL franchise.

The scary thought is that he was once a minority owner in our organization. Can't help but wonder if there are more like him still around.

pczach

01-01-2020, 09:00 AM

What a disaster the Browns are. Apparently, the OC was telling other teams that the Browns were a "total mess".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-browns-oc-told-opposing-teams-that-browns-were-total-mess-during-season/ar-BBYvBxP?ocid=spartanntp

AtlantaDan

01-01-2020, 09:13 AM

The scary thought is that he was once a minority owner in our organization. Can't help but wonder if there are more like him still around.

Fortunately the minority owners on the Steelers have no more power to influence team decisions than we do - about all they get out of the deal are great seats for the games at Heinz and the return on the investment

Remember this? :chuckle:

Some Steelers limited partners want a coaching change
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Or this?

Some Steelers minority owners didn’t want to extend Mike Tomlin
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/29/report-some-steelers-minority-owners-didnt-want-to-extend-mike-tomlin/

(https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/29/report-some-steelers-minority-owners-didnt-want-to-extend-mike-tomlin/)

T&B fan

01-01-2020, 09:24 AM

Fortunately the minority owners on the Steelers have no more power to influence team decisions than we do - about all they get out of the deal are great seats for the game and the return on the investment

Remember this? :chuckle:

Some Steelers limited partners want a coaching change
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Or this?

Some Steelers minority owners didn’t want to extend Mike Tomlin
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/29/report-some-steelers-minority-owners-didnt-want-to-extend-mike-tomlin/

(https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/29/report-some-steelers-minority-owners-didnt-want-to-extend-mike-tomlin/)

thank god for that in more ways then one .

as I recall the NFL made the Steelers have to get minority owners ? ether way them and some of us here should not be in charge of any team decisions .

Butch

01-01-2020, 01:30 PM

Fortunately the minority owners on the Steelers have no more power to influence team decisions than we do - about all they get out of the deal are great seats for the games at Heinz and the return on the investment

Remember this? :chuckle:

Some Steelers limited partners want a coaching change
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/source-some-steelers-limited-partners-want-a-coaching-change/

Or this?

Some Steelers minority owners didn’t want to extend Mike Tomlin
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/29/report-some-steelers-minority-owners-didnt-want-to-extend-mike-tomlin/

(https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/29/report-some-steelers-minority-owners-didnt-want-to-extend-mike-tomlin/)

Thank Goodness for that and yes I remember both those things. I hope the Rooney's can keep the team under their ownership. Does anyone know who is next in line to own the team?

Mojouw

01-01-2020, 01:39 PM

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Butch

01-01-2020, 01:39 PM

thank god for that in more ways then one .

as I recall the NFL made the Steelers have to get minority owners ? ether way them and some of us here should not be in charge of any team decisions .

Yes Go To Hell broke up our ownership due to "Ties to legalized gambline", 2 of the brothers operated race tracks.

This is the same guy who turns a blind eye to both Jerry Jones and Boob Kraft having stakes in fantasy football betting...hmmm double standard imagine that. It should also be noted that the NFL is letting the raiders move to Vegas. Sure sounds shady to me but that is what Go To Hell wants so...

NCSteeler

01-01-2020, 06:50 PM

thank god for that in more ways then one .

as I recall the NFL made the Steelers have to get minority owners ? ether way them and some of us here should not be in charge of any team decisions .Yeah. Cause minority owners can't hold any stake in a gambling business"dog track" but other than that you can be any kind of scum "haslam, Kraft"

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