Week 17 Ravens vs Steelers.

[NCSteeler]

What do you think?

Here's a little thread if you read all the words and context you'll find that we may have a great coach on our hands. His only draw back is his inability to cut his staff when needed.

https://www.steelers.com/news/tomlin-on-mvps-emergencies-on-schedule

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[Crow-Magnon]

It looks like the Ravens may also hold out some starters on defense like Peters and Smith. That could bode well for a Steelers W. I get it. Probably makes sense in the long run. But I don’t like it.

[86WARD]

#HereWeGo

Steelers win 17-13.

[faninyork]

Brady lost. Lol

[FrancoLambert]

It looks like the Ravens may also hold out some starters on defense like Peters and Smith. That could bode well for a Steelers W. I get it. Probably makes sense in the long run. But I don’t like it.

You’ll like it after the game when you realize you haven’t lost any important players in a meaningless game. :chuckle:

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

That wasn't a 1st down

[EzraTank]

Texans now sitting Watson and other starters...

See ya all next year. At least the Titans should give New England more trouble

[Polamalu Princess]

Let's go Steelers!!! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[86WARD]

RGIII and Edwards looking exactly like Jackson and Ingram...lol.

[Neversatisfied]

The defense looks terrible

[faninyork]

How do we get Fouts again. Ugh.

[86WARD]

Nice work by Hilton!

[Polamalu Princess]

Nice!

[Edman]

The Texans resting their starters and the Defense, the Steelers need to beat Baltimore with Duck.

That should inspire any dreams fans had of making the playoffs.

[86WARD]

Ravens take an early 3-0 lead...

[EzraTank]

Texans scrubs score TD.

[86WARD]

Alright...ready to watch this mess...

[86WARD]

Ugh...the typical first down run for one yard to put them in 2nd and long.

[Rotorhead]

Houston leads 7-0 so far

[steelcityboyz]

nice pass

[Steeler-in-west]

Texans up 7-0, we (or rather Hodges) can’t blow this

[EzraTank]

I want the Raiders to make if we can't just because it would be funny as hell

[86WARD]

Ugh...the typical first down run for one yard to put them in 2nd and long.

To be followed up,with the typical incompletion to bring up 3rd and long.

[FrancoLambert]

Benny Snell on a slow track should be interesting.

[steelcityboyz]

pass right on the money

[faninyork]

I want the Raiders to make if we can't just because it would be funny as hell

And they have just as much of a chance to win a playoff game as we do...

[86WARD]

And of course on third down, the blocking can’t pick up a blitz and 4th and long. Nice 44 second drive for the Steelers...lol.

[86WARD]

Benny Snell on a slow track should be interesting.

Walking speed?

[EzraTank]

What a great :44 second drive. LOL the level of suck is strong in this one.

[Rotorhead]

3 and out, they are pressure us until we do something to beat it, maybe we should do a couple of screen passes or short crossing routes?

[Neversatisfied]

It doesn't matter who is under center next season, if the Steelers don't fix the run game they will miss the playoffs next year.

[Shoes]

Hopefully the defense can score 3 TD's :chuckle:

[FrancoLambert]

Walking speed?

Crawling speed.

[EzraTank]

Titans 7-7. AJ Brown who should be a Steeler, for a long TD.

God having a legit QB is so huge.

[86WARD]

Defense looks as good as the Duck led offense right now...

[FrancoLambert]

Ravens have a nice group of TE’s.

[86WARD]

It doesn't matter who is under center next season, if the Steelers don't fix the run game they will miss the playoffs next year.

The consistent (-2) to 2 yard runs don’t do it for you?

[Shoes]

The Ravens see the value at the TE position

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

D didn't show up either.

[faninyork]

This is embarrassing.

[86WARD]

Lol...Keith Butler must’ve told the players that he’ll win this one on coaching alone...

[Neversatisfied]

This defense isn't playing like a team facing backups

[EzraTank]

Lol we really don't belong in the playoffs

[faninyork]

Lol we really don't belong in the playoffs

Truth.

[86WARD]

Lol we really don't belong in the playoffs

Just figuring that out?

[Neversatisfied]

The consistent (-2) to 2 yard runs don’t do it for you?

I'd prefer 3+

[86WARD]

A fake field goal would be ideal here.

[86WARD]

6-0 Ravens.

[EzraTank]

Just figuring that out?Lol.

[EzraTank]

I hope we lose 60-0 on 20 Tucker field goals

[Shoes]

Just figuring that out?


:lol:

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

If they would have sit Tucker we would have had a chance lol.

[Polamalu Princess]

Come on!!!!!

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

We got a 1st down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[86WARD]

Guys just can’t block...

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Nice pass Duck

[86WARD]

Look at that...Hodges has a little protection and completes to Johnson for a nice 3rd down conversion.

[Edman]

Titans and Texans tied at 7.

Steelers still trying to find some offense down 6-0 in Baltimore.

Not good so far.

[Polamalu Princess]

Great job!!!

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Nice run Snell!!!!!!!

[43Hitman]

TD STEELERS!

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Snell yea!!!!!!!!!

[Polamalu Princess]

TD!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[GoSlash27]

Get that ball in there!

[86WARD]

Nice runs by Snell!!

[86WARD]

7-6 Steelers!!

[steelcityboyz]

Snell running hard! Defense needs to tighten up now

[Shoes]

lol TD!

[AtlantaDan]

Ben using his right hand to clap - on the road to recovery :thumbsup:

[Steeler-in-west]

Great, touchdown by titans too,

[steelcityboyz]

see that bling hanging on L Jacksons neck lol

[Steeler-in-west]

Where is our run defense?

[Shoes]

Good play Dupree

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Watt quit jumping the snaps.

[steelcityboyz]

TJ wants to get him some lol

[faninyork]

How many yellow flags on 90 this season?

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Fuuuddddddddge Bush drop a easy int

[Edman]

7-6 Steelers, but Titans score to go up 14-7.

[faninyork]

“Bush almost steps in front of this one”. Fouts is such a dickhead.

[Shoes]

“Bush almost steps in front of this one”. Fouts is such a dickhead.


I'll take him over, Collinsworth. :chuckle:

[faninyork]

I'll take him over, Collinsworth. chuckle:

Equally suck...

[Shoes]

Equally suck...

:lol:

[GoSlash27]

A little TE play for Shoes :D

[EzraTank]

7-6 Steelers, but Titans score to go up 14-7.And we're going to pull off a win this week and watch the Titans win as well, making last weeks loss horrible

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Nice play by the Duck

[86WARD]

O-Line is blocking much better. Hodges starting to look decent back there with a little blocking in front of him.

[GoSlash27]

Quackquackquack

[Shoes]

Yep find your TE

[EzraTank]

Foster ... ugh.

[86WARD]

Rush schemes just confusing the shot out of offense.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Foster nice whiff

[FrancoLambert]

Foster is so done.

[st33lersguy]

They need to invest in o-line in free agency, and in the 2nd round of the draft. Also fire Sarrett

[fansince'76]

Getting no help from Houston. Dammit.

[FrancoLambert]

Foster is so done.

So is Berry.

[EzraTank]

Well at least Johnson will have a year under his belt if Ben can come back.

Think about it... a healthy Ben and legit RB and we are a tough team to beat.

[Shoes]

Ben is eating a turkey on the sideline.

[SteeleReign]

The difference between the Steelers and Champions - the little things.

Berry punting into the end zone.. [emoji19][emoji849]

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[AtlantaDan]

So is Berry.

He should have been gone years ago - but since the ST coach has a lifetime appointment why should the punter have to perform?

[fansince'76]

So is Berry.

Berry should have been gone at least 2 years ago. I can't believe they've never been able to find anyone more consistent than he is.

[steelcityboyz]

Lamar is one ugly dude

[SteeleReign]

Berry should have been gone at least 2 years ago. I can't believe they've never been able to find anyone more consistent than he is.Ben can punt better than that

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[86WARD]

RGIII making Lamar Jackson not so special...lol.

[fansince'76]

The difference between the Steelers and Champions - the little things.

Berry punting into the end zone..

Asking Berry to actually pin an opponent deep? Laughable.

[86WARD]

Come on TJ...

[EzraTank]

Stupid play by Watt

[st33lersguy]

I have it on mute, the constant ballwashing of Lamar Jackson is so incredibly annoying even when he is not playing

[SteeleReign]

RG3 - Oscar performance [emoji849]

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[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Watt throws a nice low jab

[faninyork]

RG3 - Oscar performance [emoji849]

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Exactly.

[EzraTank]

That's intentional grounding no matter where you are. Hate that

[SteeleReign]

Intentional grounding?! Hello?

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[faninyork]

Intentional grounding?! Hello?

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Too busy fighting over LJ jerseys.

[SteeleReign]

Too busy fighting over LJ jerseys.You mean LJ jockstraps

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[faninyork]

You mean LJ jockstraps

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:lol:

[steelcityboyz]

Um. time out??

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Money kicker

[EzraTank]

Um. time out??

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Money kickerTomlin doesn't need the clock...

[steelcityboyz]

could sure use a 99 yard return

[faninyork]

Tomlin doesn't need the clock...

THE eastern STANDARD time IS THE eastern STANDARD time...

[steelcityboyz]

damn Juju

[GoSlash27]

Dammit JuJu!

[faninyork]

LOL...

[Neversatisfied]

What an asshole

[steelcityboyz]

Paxton Paxton Paxton Paxton

[FrancoLambert]

Nice ball security Duck.

[86WARD]

Blocking schemes and talent on the O-Line is soooooooo bad.

[EzraTank]

Our offensive line is truly offensive

[Shoes]

Duck in the water. :chuckle:

[SteeleReign]

Jaylen? What the hell was that? [emoji1787]

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[EzraTank]

Blocking schemes and talent on the O-Line is soooooooo bad.Think this team misses Mike Munchak?

[st33lersguy]

Typical Tomlin. After last week pissing away a chance to clinch a spot against the trashfire that is the New York Jets, he slops around and has his team woefully unprepared against a Ravens team with nothing to play for starting RG3 7 years past his one good year in a must win game. I don't want to hear about Mike Tomlin coach of the year

[EzraTank]

Jaylen? What the hell was that? [emoji1787]

Sent from my LM-V405 using TapatalkIts pouring rain, he gets a pass on the recovery

[Mojouw]

Can we just play Lynxh? Hodges stared at the free rusher and decided his patented spin move into a sack was a better response than throwing hot to the TE.

[st33lersguy]

Too bad both Fichtner and Sarrett will stay because Art Rooney doesn't fire coaches that deserve to be fired

[EzraTank]

So this is what it looks like when a backup QB gets protected

[HollywoodSteel]

I’m so glad I’m not watching the game.

Just let me know if TJ does anything to pad his stats. I guess I should also be rooting for Dupree NOT to pad his. He’ll be expensive enough. Lol

[Edman]

Titans still up 14-7 going into halftime.

[SteeleReign]

Think this team misses Mike Munchak?I hear this a lot.

There's no way that the offensive line should become this bad because Munchak left. These are veterans.

We have no quarterback. No running game. A pile of average receivers. And no tight ends.

Not an on-line problem IMHO.

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[Neversatisfied]

This defense looks like trash

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Nice tackling!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[86WARD]

Play execution from the Steelers to Ravens, on offense, is basically the difference of college to pro...it’s not even close...

[st33lersguy]

Piss poor effort.

Art Rooney: "8-8 is still a successful season"

[Polamalu Princess]

Ugh!!!!@

[GoSlash27]

Ouch...

[EzraTank]

Tick tick tick.... season ending.

[SteeleReign]

Its pouring rain, he gets a pass on the recoveryHad nothing to do with the rain

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[86WARD]

That’s the ball game.

[steelcityboyz]

Glad we're not going to playoffs we would only carry this shit show on and be more embarassed.

[Edman]

16-7 Ravens

14-7 Titans

Anyone still want to entertain the playoffs?

[faninyork]

Glad we're not going to playoffs we would only carry this shit show on and be more embarassed.

True story. There is no universe where this offense could make any sort of impact in the playoffs.

[st33lersguy]

Play execution from the Steelers to Ravens, on offense, is basically the difference of college to pro...it’s not even close...

No kidding, I would literally trade 2 first round picks to swap Greg Roman with Milton Waddams Fichtner. Roman has perfectly crafted an offense to get the most out of Lamar Jackson, Fichtner is the worst OC in the league.

[Edman]

Play execution from the Steelers to Ravens, on offense, is basically the difference of college to pro...it’s not even close...

The Ravens have a legitimate NFL Caliber OC with NFL credentials.

The Steelers have Ben’s buddy, with no credentials besides being his best pal.

[SteeleReign]

Tick tick tick.... season ending.It is over, yes. What do the Steelers do with the QB position next year? It's the big question going into 2020.

Ben might be back. But even if he is, what do the backups look like?

Does the half against the Jets restore the front office's faith in Rudolph?

It's gonna be interesting.

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[Mach1]

Piss poor effort.

Art Rooney: "8-8 is still a successful season"

Here's that 8-8 trophy.

https://i.etsystatic.com/14182764/r/il/0f9f1e/1194614598/il_570xN.1194614598_b8r8.jpg

[SteeleReign]

Here's that 8-8 trophy.

https://i.etsystatic.com/14182764/r/il/0f9f1e/1194614598/il_570xN.1194614598_b8r8.jpgBut, but, but Tomlin has never had a losing season... Or something...

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[HollywoodSteel]

Damn, I just checked the box score and saw that Bud has a dong sack. I think he just got too expensive for us. Possibly the only thing that will happen in this game that matters.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Its pouring rain, he gets a pass on the recovery

People complaining about the recovery.....laughable.

If there isn't a fumble because of lousy ball security, there isn't a need for a guy to hustle 15 yards deep to try and recover a fumble the QB never should have made. What a quack.

[fansince'76]

Tick tick tick.... season ending.

Probably for the better. I mean, did anyone really want to see them go into Foxboro next week and watch Butler revert to LeBeau Lite against them (as usual), while Brady winds up playing catch with some nobody all afternoon (remember Chris Hogan?) and the Steelers get their lunch eaten again?

[EzraTank]

It is over, yes. What do the Steelers do with the QB position next year? It's the big question going into 2020.

Ben might be back. But even if he is, what do the backups look like?

Does the half against the Jets restore the front office's faith in Rudolph?

It's gonna be interesting.

Sent from my LM-V405 using TapatalkYou have to sign an Andy Dalton, Teddy Bridgewater type of guy to back up Ben (if he comes back). There is no way you can go into next season with Mason or Duck next in line. You need to start the search for Ben's replacement immediately in the draft next year if possible.

[Shoes]

Probably for the better. I mean, did anyone really want to see them go into Foxboro next week and watch Butler revert to LeBeau Lite against them (as usual), while Brady winds up playing catch with some nobody all afternoon (remember Chris Hogan?) and the Steelers get their lunch eaten again?

That is exactly what would happen.

[Edman]

No kidding, I would literally trade 2 first round picks to swap Greg Roman with Milton Waddams Fichtner. Roman has perfectly crafted an offense to get the most out of Lamar Jackson, Fichtner is the worst OC in the league.

Fichtner is not an OC. He’s a yes man figurehead. He’s just been exposed this year without Ben. He has no grasp of situational football and just does what Ben wants him to do. Ben is the true OC.

The only reason he’s even in this spot, is because Ben liked him after Haley was canned.

The Buffalo disaster says it all. Having our Undrafted rookie QB throw the ball 30+ times against one of the best secondaries in the league when their vulnerability is run defense proves that he is out of his depth.

At least I can somewhat say we have a Defense. Somewhat.

[steelcityboyz]

You have to sign an Andy Dalton, Teddy Bridgewater type of guy to back up Ben (if he comes back). There is no way you can go into next season with Mason or Duck next in line. You need to start the search for Ben's replacement immediately in the draft next year if possible.Agreed. Both Duck and Mason are garbage.

[SteeleReign]

You have to sign an Andy Dalton, Teddy Bridgewater type of guy to back up Ben (if he comes back). There is no way you can go into next season with Mason or Duck next in line. You need to start the search for Ben's replacement immediately in the draft next year if possible.I agree. I'd be intrigued by a Bridgwater type of guy.

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[st33lersguy]

Fichtner is not an OC. He’s a yes man figurehead. He’s just been exposed this year without Ben. He has no grasp of situational football and just does what Ben wants him to do.

The only reason he’s even in this spot, is because Ben liked him after Haley was canned.

The Buffalo disaster says it all. Having our Undrafted rookie QB throw the ball 30+ times against one of the best secondaries in the league when their vulnerability is run defense proves that he is out of his depth.

Ben will come back next season, hopefully play reasonably well, and cover for his puppet.

This is 100% correct

[steelcityboyz]

What's the Odds Paxton starts the second half?

[SteeleReign]

0%

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[st33lersguy]

You have to sign an Andy Dalton, Teddy Bridgewater type of guy to back up Ben (if he comes back). There is no way you can go into next season with Mason or Duck next in line. You need to start the search for Ben's replacement immediately in the draft next year if possible.

It won't matter, as long the Ben's puppet is OC and the o-line continues to be a trashfire whatever QB will be put in will struggle. It will take an elite QB to have ANY success in this offense

[AtlantaDan]

16-7 Ravens

14-7 Titans

Anyone still want to entertain the playoffs?

Since the #6 seed plays the Pats next weekend I am ready to put this season and the historically bad offense down

[EzraTank]

Since the #6 seed plays the Pats next weekend I am ready to put this season and the historically bad offense downAnd to be honest I'd rather see the Titans play them because they are better built to actually upset them. Tannahill is playing well and Derrick Henry is a stud.

Belichick always makes Ben look bad, imagine what he'll do to Duck.

[Steeldude]

Tomlin's well oiled machine at work. If Tomlin's Steelers can't get some fluke or low % plays going they struggle.

[Mojouw]

As opposed to all the offenses that succeed w8thout a legit QB.

[Polamalu Princess]

Yes!!!!

[steelcityboyz]

Watt is the man

[GoSlash27]

NICE!!

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Now we need to punch this in

[Shoes]

Not enough film on watt to be a R1 pick. :chuckle:

[GoSlash27]

Benny Snell Football!!

[steelcityboyz]

maybe duck will throw a td pass

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no challange????????????

[86WARD]

Tomlin should’ve challenged that...

[tube517]

Was that a TD

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[fansince'76]

All for naught - Titans up 21-7 now.

[AtlantaDan]

Of course no challenge on whether that was a TD since this offense is money to score

[86WARD]

Tomlin should’ve challenged that...

Should’ve at least challenged...have nothing else to lose...

[Neversatisfied]

No way the Steelers bring Hodges back.right?

[GoSlash27]

Bad burn of a TO

[fansince'76]

And to be honest I'd rather see the Titans play them because they are better built to actually upset them. Tannahill is playing well and Derrick Henry is a stud.

Belichick always makes Ben look bad, imagine what he'll do to Duck.

The Pats have been living rent-free in the Steelers' heads for years now. At least the Titans might actually stand up and punch them in the mouth.

[86WARD]

Another wasted drive...

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Quit throwing to JUJU and he can't catch this season

[GoSlash27]

Back to a 1 score game.

[AtlantaDan]

No way the Steelers bring Hodges back.right?

Training camp arm but they have to bring in a vet backup to go with Rudolph

[Mojouw]

Goodness Hodges is awful.

[steelcityboyz]

I can't wait for the reason Tomlin gives for not challenging that play.

[SteeleReign]

Tomlin should’ve challenged that...Right hand was down long before left foot. Would have been a wasted challenge.

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[Mojouw]

I can't wait for the reason Tomlin gives for not challenging that play.

Because DJ was clearly out of bounds.


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[steelcityboyz]

Ravens taking control of the game..

[EzraTank]

Texans score to pull within 7.

[Steeldude]

As opposed to all the offenses that succeed w8thout a legit QB.

It goes beyond QB.

[HollywoodSteel]

As opposed to all the offenses that succeed w8thout a legit QB.

Well, the truth is we had quite a few games that we lost by a single play. I honestly believe we would be in the playoffs with this defense and a really good OC.

I’m not saying other factors didn’t also contribute to the losses. And I’m not saying other things on offense didn’t hurt us, but those things are physical, therefore uncontrollable.

I wish we could put games into a computer and see what would have happened if say, we adjusted schematically to Buffalo’s blitzes after they did it once. Or ran more against that elite pass defense. Or maybe threw some screens against blitzing pass rushes. Just for fun. :)

[EzraTank]

Well, the truth is we had quite a few games that we lost by a single play. I honestly believe we would be in the playoffs with this defense and a really good OC.

I’m not saying other factors didn’t also contribute to the losses. And I’m not saying other things on offense didn’t hurt us, but those things are physical, therefore uncontrollable.

I wish we could put games into a computer and see what would have happened if say, we adjusted schematically to Buffalo’s blitzes after they did it once. Or ran more against that elite pass defense. Or maybe threw some screens against blitzing pass rushes. Just for fun. :)Agreed. If we had a legit back like Derrick Henry and a legit OC we would be the #5 seed even with the trash we have under center.

[Mojouw]

Well, the truth is we had quite a few games that we lost by a single play. I honestly believe we would be in the playoffs with this defense and a really good OC.

I’m not saying other factors didn’t also contribute to the losses. And I’m not saying other things on offense didn’t hurt us, but those things are physical, therefore uncontrollable.

I wish we could put games into a computer and see what would have happened if say, we adjusted schematically to Buffalo’s blitzes after they did it once. Or ran more against that elite pass defense. Or maybe threw some screens against blitzing pass rushes. Just for fun. :)

On the last drive, both the throw to DJ and JUJU have to be a TD at the NFL level. Hodges is just far too bad to cobble together a functional offense.

I really don't think we can understate how not good he is.

[Mojouw]

Agreed. If we had a legit back like Derrick Henry and a legit OC we would be the #5 seed even with the trash we have under center.

No we we wouldn't. We would be the Panthers or Titans with Mariotta.


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[Shoes]

Why would someone buy a #6 jersey? :lol:

[AtlantaDan]

On the last drive, both the throw to DJ and JUJU have to be a TD at the NFL level. Hodges is just far too bad to cobble together a functional offense.

I really don't think we can understate how not good he is.

Agreed - but it is not an either/or choice. Both the QB and the OC can be a hot mess.

[HollywoodSteel]

Probably for the better. I mean, did anyone really want to see them go into Foxboro next week and watch Butler revert to LeBeau Lite against them (as usual), while Brady winds up playing catch with some nobody all afternoon (remember Chris Hogan?) and the Steelers get their lunch eaten again?


I actually totally disagree with this. I’m not saying we would score enough points to win... or any points at all.

What I am saying is that we have a different defense (with Minkah now) that actually matches up better with the Pats than we had with Lebeau.

Back then we played zone and relied on the blitz so Brady could pick us apart. Now we are one of the best pass rushing defenses that rarely blitzes. That’s the key to beating Brady. Getting to him without blitzing.

Also Brady is the worst he’s ever been.

I have no allusions of winning a play off game. But I REALLY wanted to see this defense go up against Brady. Just to see us hit him more than ever before.

[EzraTank]

Agreed. If we had a legit back like Derrick Henry and a legit OC we would be the #5 seed even with the trash we have under center.And Henry scores after a big catch by AJ Brown... 28-14 Titans doing what we haven't been able to do the past 3 weeks

[EzraTank]

No we we wouldn't. We would be the Panthers or Titans with Mariotta.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot with this defense

[fansince'76]

Titans up 28-14 now. Early 4th. :(

[86WARD]

Season over. Was an impressive run considering the mess that was the offense.

Unfortunately, the coordinators will stay the same and the results won’t be much better in 2020...lol.

[Neversatisfied]

RG3 is making this defense looks foolish

[steelcityboyz]

So painful to watch this offensive and defensive shit show.

[Shoes]

Watt probably wishing he played for a different team. :chuckle:

[HollywoodSteel]

On the last drive, both the throw to DJ and JUJU have to be a TD at the NFL level. Hodges is just far too bad to cobble together a functional offense.

I really don't think we can understate how not good he is.


Oh, I don’t disagree with that one bit. I’m not even watching this game because I had no doubt about the outcome.

What I’m saying is that this game wouldn’t matter if we had a good OC. We pretty much know that it wouldn’t have taken more than a couple of better decisions that would have turned previous losses into victories.

I’m not say fire Tomlin or anything. There’s not much within his control or wheelhouse that I think he could have done differently given who he is and the fact that there was no conceivable way to replace Fichtner last off season. He made rational decisions given what he knew when.

I’m not blaming. Just saying that one factor, among a few, that could have turned at least two losses into victories, would be a really good OC.

A good QB would obviously be another

[steelcityboyz]

All day to pass and he throws it out of bounds smh

[FrancoLambert]

8-8 is exactly what we are...mediocre.
Good defense, shit offense.
This team needs a lot more than just a successful return by Ben...which is questionable.

[Edman]

The Titans deserve the playoffs more than the Steelers do. They have been playing very well down the stretch regardless of losing. The Steelers have been treading water.

I said it before and say it again. This season was lost the minute the Steelers went wildcat against the Bills when there was absolutely no reason to. That was the team waving the white flag. That was the singular moment when this team gave up and just was not going to get it done. They were intimidated.

It was fun while it lastedv and it looked good, but its very clear Ben masked a lot of problems on the Offensive side of the ball that were there in 2018. A LOT of problems.

[GoSlash27]

That's one way to make sure JuJu catches the ball...

[HollywoodSteel]

Agreed - but it is not an either/or choice. Both the QB and the OC can be a hot mess.


Right. We know that it wouldn’t have take much to turn a few of these losses into victories. One factor, that’s pretty easy to speculate on because we saw what went wrong, is even SLIGHTLY better offensive schematics.

I mean, as bad as this offense is, we still lost a few games by only one play. Of course it’s also possible to have even WORSE offensive coaching. But it isn’t much of an assumption to say that BETTER offensive coaching would have won us a couple more games.

But with this defense we can probably make the playoffs next year if Ben plays well and we keep Fichtner. Ben obviously compensates for a lot of warts.

[faninyork]

Can’t find the IG flag on RG III but it’s available for Duck. Joke.

[EzraTank]

So RG3 isn't intentional grounding... ah fuck it.

[faninyork]

So RG3 isn't intentional grounding... ah fuck it.

^^^^^^^^^^^

[Shoes]

I wouldn't even play watt at this point.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Wow a good punt

[steelcityboyz]

Hairball is the biggest fucking cry baby ive ever seen.

[GoSlash27]

I'll take a safety here...

[fansince'76]

Wow a good punt

Which means he'll probably shank the next one.

[pczach]

It goes beyond QB.



Maybe you can break it down for us and explain in detail how and why that is?

[HollywoodSteel]

Season over. Was an impressive run considering the mess that was the offense.

Unfortunately, the coordinators will stay the same and the results won’t be much better in 2020...lol.


I guess you can look at it that way. But the truth is we only needed to ONE MORE right thing in at least 3 games and we’d be in the playoffs.

Yes, it could have been players playing better... but given the play being what it was, a few plays simply schemed better would have also made the difference.

I think Tomlin has a great case to make if he decides to fight for new OC. Ben isn’t an idiot. As much as he likes Fichtner, he wants another ring more. And he won’t give up the chance to play with this defense. He won’t quit with a new OC. Just don’t hire a total dick like Haley.

[Mach1]

Lol what a joke

[Neversatisfied]

This team is the fu@%ing worst

[EzraTank]

Fuck Harbaugh... remember that one for the future.

[AtlantaDan]

Harbaugh with a fuck you to the Steelers with that fake punt

[Shoes]

Tomlin and the red flag. :chuckle:

[AtlantaDan]

Fuck Harbaugh... remember that one for the future.

If the Steelers don’t like it then don’t let them convert it

But I agree file that away for next season when someone has a clear shot at Jackson

[GoSlash27]

That's a weird situation to try a fake. They know our offense sucks, so why risk the field position?

[Edman]

Lol. Leave it to Harbaugh to leave a little knife twist in the end there.

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That's a weird situation to try a fake. They know our offense sucks, so why risk the field position?

Twisting the knife.

[Neversatisfied]

Tomlin for coach of the year.... oh wait

[faninyork]

Tomlin for coach of the year.... oh wait

:hurt:

[HollywoodSteel]

Fuck Harbaugh... remember that one for the future.

There are still plenty of their important players in this game. The playoffs this year are obviously not an option for us. But we can do what the Bengals have routinely done to us multiple times: lose but cripple our chances.

Tell our players to play by 1970s rules. If we take a penalty, that just keeps their offense on the field to take more punishment.

[GoSlash27]

Lol. Leave it to Harbaugh to leave a little knife twist in the end there.

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Twisting the knife.

If so, it's a foolish emotionally based decision.

[EzraTank]

Kudos to the Ravens, they drafted Jackson super late in the draft then actually put a OC in place that could make him great instead of hiring Jacksons buddy.

[HollywoodSteel]

If the Steelers don’t like it then don’t let them convert it

But I agree file that away for next season when someone has a clear shot at Jackson

Why file it away for next year? This is the game to not give a fuck about borderline hits.

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Jackson isn’t the only player on their team that’s important

[86WARD]

I guess you can look at it that way. But the truth is we only needed to ONE MORE right thing in at least 3 games and we’d be in the playoffs.

Yes, it could have been players playing better... but given the play being what it was, a few plays simply schemed better would have also made the difference.

I think Tomlin has a great case to make if he decides to fight for new OC. Ben isn’t an idiot. As much as he likes Fichtner, he wants another ring more. And he won’t give up the chance to play with this defense. He won’t quit with a new OC. Just don’t hire a total dick like Haley.

Nah. Things happened just like they should’ve. This team isn’t as good as the 8-8 record says and they just aren’t even close to a playoff contender. As for Fichtner, Tomlin already came out and said what a great job he’s done and what a positive attitude he has...he’s not firing anybody. Next year, they’ll be 9-7.

[86WARD]

Tomlin for coach of the year.... oh wait

Last couple weeks he’s done his best to take his name out of that discussion...lol.

[EzraTank]

35-14 Titans. I really hope they end Bradys season next week.

[Shoes]

Nah. Things happened just like they should’ve. This team isn’t as good as the 8-8 record says and they just aren’t even close to a playoff contender. As for Fichtner, Tomlin already came out and said what a great job he’s done and what a positive attitude he has...he’s not firing anybody. Next year, they’ll be 9-7.

Tomlin would never fire Fich or Butler, they are old buddies.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

JUJU having a Montcrief type season

[86WARD]

Can the centers snap the ball to the QB in a normal fashion?!?

[GoSlash27]

Wow... isn't this 4 down territory?

[AtlantaDan]

LOL

[86WARD]

Lol. Berry needs to get his shitshow on...fucking terrible.

[steelcityboyz]

I feel like a Browns fan!