Let's Talk Hodges

[Mojouw]

I totally slept on this guy during the preseason and training camp process. Wrote him off as a camp arm who had a few moments against furniture movers and future failed personal trainers. As a result, I know next to nothing about him.

What I think I saw today is that the kid is decisive as all get out. At least 3 throws today he hit his back foot on his drop and just let it rip. A good bit of mobility and appeared to have a good sense of where the pass rush was at all times.

Looked it up and the only two scouting reports I could find worth a darn say basically that.
http://www.pass2win.com/devlin-hodges-qb.html
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2019/03/hidden-gems-vol-3/

I suspect that no one associated with the Steelers is gonna rush Rudolph back. So Hodges may get the call against the Chargers and then the team has the bye week to get Rudolph's brain unscrambled.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Yea many on here laughed at us Hodges supporters and said who cares about a 4th string QB that won't make the team and never see the field. What we saw in preseason is that he makes quick decisions and the field isn't to big for him and has a confidence about him. Wow what a difference two months make and he will probably be starting his first game next Sunday night.

[86WARD]

Liked what I saw in the preseason and liked what I saw in the game. He did look a little bit awkward out there, but I think he did very well. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Rudolph plays against the Chargers. As long as there is nothing else injured, he could recover from a concussion during the week.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Liked what I saw in the preseason and liked what I saw in the game. He did look a little bit awkward out there, but I think he did very well. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Rudolph plays against the Chargers. As long as there is nothing else injured, he could recover from a concussion during the week. I think Rudy might have a ankle injury as well.

[pczach]

I totally slept on this guy during the preseason and training camp process. Wrote him off as a camp arm who had a few moments against furniture movers and future failed personal trainers. As a result, I know next to nothing about him.

What I think I saw today is that the kid is decisive as all get out. At least 3 throws today he hit his back foot on his drop and just let it rip. A good bit of mobility and appeared to have a good sense of where the pass rush was at all times.

Looked it up and the only two scouting reports I could find worth a darn say basically that.
http://www.pass2win.com/devlin-hodges-qb.html
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2019/03/hidden-gems-vol-3/

I suspect that no one associated with the Steelers is gonna rush Rudolph back. So Hodges may get the call against the Chargers and then the team has the bye week to get Rudolph's brain unscrambled.



I really liked what I saw from him today. He does seem to trust his eyes and make quick decisions on where to go with the ball.

I just have to caution everyone not to overreact to what we just saw. I said the same thing when Rudolph came into a game and looked good. It is a different animal when teams get a long hard look at a quarterback and see what they like to do on the field. They game plan for you, and try to take away what you are best at and comfortable doing, while making you do what you haven't shown you can do very well and aren't very comfortable doing.

I'm not saying Hodges is going to fail. What I am saying is we don't have enough information to make a decision on anything yet. But he was very impressive today and very calm under extreme duress and circumstances. We just need to not go the other way if he doesn't play well next week. You just can't put too much into one performance.

I hope he continues to show that steely confidence and quick decision-making going forward. You can never​ have too many quality quarterbacks.

There's a lot to like about the men in the quarterbacks room when Ben comes back and these two young men are that much more experienced and proven.

[Shoes]

I think he did well, just wish he would have acted with more urgency on the JuJu fumble.

[Mojouw]

I really liked what I saw from him today. He does seem to trust his eyes and make quick decisions on where to go with the ball.

I just have to caution everyone not to overreact to what we just saw. I said the same thing when Rudolph came into a game and looked good. It is a different animal when teams get a long hard look at a quarterback and see what they like to do on the field. They game plan for you, and try to take away what you are best at and comfortable doing, while making you do what you haven't shown you can do very well and aren't very comfortable doing.

I'm not saying Hodges is going to fail. What I am saying is we don't have enough information to make a decision on anything yet. But he was very impressive today and very calm under extreme duress and circumstances. We just need to not go the other way if he doesn't play well next week. You just can't put too much into one performance.

I hope he continues to show that steely confidence and quick decision-making going forward. You can never​ have too many quality quarterbacks.

There's a lot to like about the men in the quarterbacks room when Ben comes back and these two young men are that much more experienced and proven.

You, as always, make excellent points.

I gotta say this as well...it couldn't be that the Steelers coaching staff has anything to do with two rookie QBs jumping off the bench and playing not terribly? I mean there is NOway that could be taking place...:behindsofa:

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I think he did well, just wish he would have acted with more urgency on the JuJu fumble.

That was weird. It was like he was focusing on blocking off and preventing the Ravens LB from getting the ball and letting someone else actually recover the ball.

[pczach]

You, as always, make excellent points.

I gotta say this as well...it couldn't be that the Steelers coaching staff has anything to do with two rookie QBs jumping off the bench and playing not terribly? I mean there is NOway that could be taking place...:behindsofa:




Of course not.....no chance!:poker:

[86WARD]

I think Rudy might have a ankle injury as well.

certainly looked like it...but haven't heard anything yet. imagine we wouldnt hear anything until tomorrow anyway.

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That was weird. It was like he was focusing on blocking off and preventing the Ravens LB from getting the ball and letting someone else actually recover the ball.

It almost looked, from the one angle, like he was blocking the defender so another steelers player could recover it, only the other ravens player beat the other steelers player to the ball?

[tube517]

Bubby Duck was fun to watch in preseason. Never thought he would end up making the roster let alone get in game action and possibly start.

I'll still watch and just want to see the kid play. I like that he isn't scared unlike some backups in the past. Just go and play.

[NCSteeler]

I think he did well, just wish he would have acted with more urgency on the JuJu fumble.Yeah, looked like he was trying to block instead of securing the ball. Young kid he'll learn a d get better. Was it Holmes or Burress that just dropped the ball after catching it mid field? College rules. Lol

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[st33lersguy]

Hodges definitely has some strengths that translate well to the game. I definitely think he can succeed in this league, especially with a good head coach and a good offensive system

[Fire Goodell]

Dude has an arm, honestly his passes have more zip than Rudolph's

[ALLD]

Great slugger too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijR6Qt-O0C0

[Shoes]

We have to check Hodges throwing velocity before he starts on Monday. :chuckle:

[tube517]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf4PaAwkeJs

[Shoes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf4PaAwkeJs


These are the plays he will call Monday night.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1lK6N1ttlk

[Fire Goodell]

he coulda shot some ravens on sunday but juju dropped the ball

[steelreserve]

He plays without fear - the thing that separates the backup QBs who give you a chance from the ones where you are lucky to get 10 points a game.

Sometimes he may be a little TOO ballsy, to the point of being a bit wild. But I would rather have that problem than the typical limp-dicked backup who is so hesitant and afraid of making a mistake that he can't make any positive plays either.

[EzraTank]

He made that one bad mistake floater yesterday that was picked and over turned by a Ravens penalty. Hopefully the coaches (yes I know it's our coaches) sit him down and show him the tape and say, "you simply cannot do this in the NFL the defenders are just too fast."

Had he charged the ball yesterday on the Juju fumble and batted it out of bounds we could be tied for first!

Outside of that we need to sign a QB this week I'd imagine.

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Hodges definitely has some strengths that translate well to the game. I definitely think he can succeed in this league, especially with a good head coach and a good offensive system

So what you're saying is he has no shot here. :peep:

[GoSlash27]

I thought Duck acquitted himself well yesterday, but that pick that got nullified wasn't a fluke. Dude floats his passes. That's his biggest weakness and (IMO) the main reason he's #3 instead of #2.

[Six Rings]

As long as he doesn't try to force passes into tight coverage on the run, he should be fine.


He spreads the ball much better than Rudolph and this forces the defense to cover the field in add-on to giving the backs a bit more room to run. He's got some mobility and can run. And his accuracy was the best in camp, better than Ben's.


His college stats were crazy good in a weak conference, but he didn't exactly play with a good OL or receivers either.

[86WARD]

Dude has an arm, honestly his passes have more zip than Rudolph's

I kinda thought his passes took a lot of time to get to receivers...kinda just slow and a lot of arch on them...

No?

[Hawkman]

I kinda thought his passes took a lot of time to get to receivers...kinda just slow and a lot of arch on them...

No?

I think we have gotten so used to the cannon that Ben has, that other QBs passes look weak and slow. Sadly, some of us will not see an arm like Ben’s again....in a Steelers uniform.
He can throw deep from any position.

[steel striker]

I think we have gotten so used to the cannon that Ben has, that other QBs passes look weak and slow. Sadly, some of us will not see an arm like Ben’s again....in a Steelers uniform.
He can throw deep from any position. Not to keep talking about Ben but, I think it's safe to say Ben is really missed. Hodges did show a lot last week.

[Fire Goodell]

Hodges is more of a Steeler QB, cause I don't think Mason's capable of growing a playoff beard

[Mojouw]

What if Hodges plays or "looks" better?

Meaning that the competition wasn't cut and dried in the off-season and if Hodges converts more 3rd downs and fires some completions deep?

Lots of ifs and not likely going to happen but it could...

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Hodges is more of a Steeler QB, cause I don't think Mason's capable of growing a playoff beard Don't think either will be wearing a playoff beard this season.

[DesertSteel]

What if Hodges plays or "looks" better?

Meaning that the competition wasn't cut and dried in the off-season and if Hodges converts more 3rd downs and fires some completions deep?

Lots of ifs and not likely going to happen but it could...
What if Hodges is better than Ben too???

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In a similar situation, does Nick Foles get his job back next season with all that guaranteed money?

[Craic]

I kinda thought his passes took a lot of time to get to receivers...kinda just slow and a lot of arch on them...

No?

I just went back and watched a video showing all his throws for the game. He definitely doesn't have a rocket. However, there wasn't much arch to his throws either unless necessary. A few longer throws were shallow, but some short and deep throws had arch, the first to get over defensive players and the latter so the WR could run underneath it (turns out, it was the DB running underneath it and we got a OPI, but still...). All in all, I think he has an average NFL arm.

[Edman]

Rudolph is out for Sunday. Smart move.

It's the Duck show Sunday Night. May the QB controversy commence.

The 2019 Steelers just may have the most well-rounded group of QB's since the days of O'Donnell/Tomczak.

[86WARD]

I just went back and watched a video showing all his throws for the game. He definitely doesn't have a rocket. However, there wasn't much arch to his throws either unless necessary. A few longer throws were shallow, but some short and deep throws had arch, the first to get over defensive players and the latter so the WR could run underneath it (turns out, it was the DB running underneath it and we got a OPI, but still...). All in all, I think he has an average NFL arm.

Thanks Craic. Didn’t have a chance o look again.

[Six Rings]

I liked what I saw. He scans the field well and doesn't have anyone spot he likes to throw it. In a small sample, I saw passes to the middle, left and right side of the field. Some of his throws were down the field, hitting the open receiver in a player in stride where it maximizes the chance for a run after the catch. The team seemed to have a lift when he entered the game, and he did not look like a 3rd string rookie at all. Hodges is also a quick runner, capable of taking advantage of a man coverage defense and running for yardage. My hunch is the wide receivers will enjoy playing with him more than Rudolph.


On the minus side, he should not forces passes on the run, or throw it across his body. If he can limit the turnovers, he looks like a better NFL quarterback then Rudolph to me.


I took a look at his college work. While he ripped it up in his conference, he also played very well in vs. two SEC opponents, which is impressive as his team was outgunned at every position.


The Steelers don't play well on the road in West Coast games at all. If Hodges wins this game, he'd better start the next game.

[Steeldude]

He is a gunslinger. Isn't afraid to throw it no matter the down or coverage. As we all know, that's a good thing and a bad thing.

One of his knocks is he doesn't go through his second and third reads in the pocket. He tends to scramble to find them. That isn't really any different than BR.

He can run and has above average ability for a QB. He is short with small hands. A slightly better than average arm. I think he will need reps to get going. He will have to learn what is and isn't a good throw in the NFL.

[steelreserve]

He is a gunslinger. Isn't afraid to throw it no matter the down or coverage. As we all know, that's a good thing and a bad thing.

One of his knocks is he doesn't go through his second and third reads in the pocket. He tends to scramble to find them. That isn't really any different than BR.

He can run and has above average ability for a QB. He is short with small hands. A slightly better than average arm. I think he will need reps to get going. He will have to learn what is and isn't a good throw in the NFL.

That is an excellent way to say it. He has excellent ability for a backup, let alone an undrafted rookie. And none of the shell shock that gimps 90% of backup QBs. But he probably is going to have to take some lumps on the way to being a finished product. What that means for our chances of winning any given game? Who knows!

[Craic]

That is an excellent way to say it. He has excellent ability for a backup, let alone an undrafted rookie. And none of the shell shock that gimps 90% of backup QBs. But he probably is going to have to take some lumps on the way to being a finished product. What that means for our chances of winning any given game? Who knows!

I agree, that's a good way of saying it. For some reason, I really have more hope in him than in Mason. Don't know why. For all intents and purposes, Mason is a really good guy and works hard. There is just something . . . underwhelming, I guess, about him.

[steelreserve]

I agree, that's a good way of saying it. For some reason, I really have more hope in him than in Mason. Don't know why. For all intents and purposes, Mason is a really good guy and works hard. There is just something . . . underwhelming, I guess, about him.

I don't know. I get the appeal of Hodges in that he is willing to let it rip, but that by itself is just a lottery ticket. Cue all the cliches about double-edged swords, good thing and and bad thing, blades that cut both ways, living by the sword and dying by the sword ... man, there sure are a lot of sayings about swords, aren't there? If you were an alien from outer space and you heard people talking, you'd probably think everyone carried swords around all the time, like 10,000 times more than they actually do.

Anyway, my point was, he's basically got one game to show the world what he's got, and nothing to lose really, so it ought to be exciting. But at this stage, it is not about development and progress, it's basically just opening a box where you have no idea what's in it. Remember, even Landry Jones looked good enough to fool everyone the first time he was in a real game.

Rudolph is the complete opposite kind of exciting, looking more like his endgame is to be ruthlessly efficient and just keep getting better at it. To make another different-sport comparison, it's like he's Floyd Mayweather and Hodges is Ricky Hatton. I thought Mayweather was just terrible to watch, by the way, but just using that as an example and don't think Rudolph could ever be that much of a cocksucker no matter what his style is.

[Shoes]

I think Mason is a perfectionist so it’s going to take him a little time to get his sea legs.

[st33lersguy]

Overall a good 1st start.

[tube517]

Good job. Didn't look frightened like some of the past backups

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[Edman]

Duck didn't look all that different from Rudolph to me. Very conservative. Overall Duck did what he was asked to do and didn't blow it. The INT was a poor playcall and I don't get on him for that. He was solid otherwise.

Quarterback is definitely not a weakness on this team. Far from it.

[Mojouw]

Duck looked competent but far from NFL ready. He makes quick decisions but his ball placement was poor all night. Left several plays on the field that you just have to have at the NFL level.

Belongs in the league but needs much more development.

[steelreserve]

A win's a win, but that was some very conservative play. I don't know whether it was by design, or simply Hodges taking what was available. I think I saw maybe half a dozen passes all night that were not dump-offs to the RBs and TEs. If I was an opposing coach, I'd load up to stop that stuff and see if he could beat us throwing downfield. Could he? Maybe, or maybe not.

I can't be upset - I mean, for your backup's backup, who was starting the first game of his career, that was pretty damn good. Still a long way to go though.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

A win's a win, but that was some very conservative play. I don't know whether it was by design, or simply Hodges taking what was available. I think I saw maybe half a dozen passes all night that were not dump-offs to the RBs and TEs. If I was an opposing coach, I'd load up to stop that stuff and see if he could beat us throwing downfield. Could he? Maybe, or maybe not.

I can't be upset - I mean, for your backup's backup, who was starting the first game of his career, that was pretty damn good. Still a long way to go though. Thanks to the D and Steelers went up 14-0 is why the conservative play. It work so.

[Steeler-in-west]

Besides having the same number, he doesn’t really have much in common with bubby. Brister could throw the deep ball, haven’t seen much of that from Hodges.

[DesertSteel]

I'm glad Rudolph is coming back after the bye.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

I'm glad Rudolph is coming back after the bye. I thought Hodges did a great job other then the int. Again like them both and cool if Rudolph is back as the starter.

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Besides having the same number, he doesn’t really have much in common with bubby. Brister could throw the deep ball, haven’t seen much of that from Hodges. Brister could throw the deep ball into the stands at will. Thank God Hodges is not a Bubby clone. Brister was garbage and made Neil look like Joe Montana taking over for him.

[Craic]

I'm glad Rudolph is coming back after the bye.

Why? Mason's 63/94 for a 67 percent completion average. Hoedges is 22/29 for a 76 percent completion average. They both have 6.9 average yards per attempt as well. More stats will be available once this game updates in the stats. But from what I can tell, at the end of the day there's very little difference between the two. Hodges seems to have a little stronger throw, but not quite enough touch. Mason has good touch, but is a low-middle in arm strength. One other thing to note is Mason's taken 3 sacks, two against SFO and one against Baltimore. So far, Hodges hasn't (but he's also started two less games).

One thing I do find interesting though, both of them came in and slung the ball around when they had to step in as a backup. However, the next games, they were handcuffed.

But there isn't really any difference in QB play between Mason and Hodges at this point. (They do things a bit different, but they have the exact same affect on the game).

[tube517]

https://media.tenor.com/images/b53778164664d147b1a29f3e7d544799/tenor.gif

[Steeler-in-west]

I thought Hodges did a great job other then the int. Again like them both and cool if Rudolph is back as the starter.

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Brister could throw the deep ball into the stands at will. Thank God Hodges is not a Bubby clone. Brister was garbage and made Neil look like Joe Montana taking over for him.

brister was inconsistent but he had good games and he could throw downfield when he was on. Haven’t seen anything from Hodges yet, and hopefully we won’t have to with Mason coming back after the bye.

[DesertSteel]

Why? Mason's 63/94 for a 67 percent completion average. Hoedges is 22/29 for a 76 percent completion average. They both have 6.9 average yards per attempt as well. More stats will be available once this game updates in the stats. But from what I can tell, at the end of the day there's very little difference between the two. Hodges seems to have a little stronger throw, but not quite enough touch. Mason has good touch, but is a low-middle in arm strength. One other thing to note is Mason's taken 3 sacks, two against SFO and one against Baltimore. So far, Hodges hasn't (but he's also started two less games).

One thing I do find interesting though, both of them came in and slung the ball around when they had to step in as a backup. However, the next games, they were handcuffed.

But there isn't really any difference in QB play between Mason and Hodges at this point. (They do things a bit different, but they have the exact same affect on the game).
Because I think Rudolph was gaining some momentum. I think the handcuffs were about to come off and hopefully will be against Miami. Rudolph has a 102 passer rating playing conservatively, with a 7/2 TD/INT ratio. With my eyes, I see a much higher ceiling with MR than Hodges. I think MR can be the next guy and I don't see anything other than a backup career in Hodges.

Statistics are like bikinis. They show you a lot but not everything.

[Fire Goodell]

Hodges looks like a capable backup, definitely someone who can manage the game, but don't count on him to air it out and win a game with his arm. He didn't do anything overly impressive, but what I did like is in the face of pressure this kid looked calm the whole time.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Because I think Rudolph was gaining some momentum. I think the handcuffs were about to come off and hopefully will be against Miami. Rudolph has a 102 passer rating playing conservatively, with a 7/2 TD/INT ratio. With my eyes, I see a much higher ceiling with MR than Hodges. I think MR can be the next guy and I don't see anything other than a backup career in Hodges.

Statistics are like bikinis. They show you a lot but not everything.

I agree. I would prefer the guy with 2 years in the system that secured the #2 QB job in training camp, to the guy the coaches deemed the #4 QB in training camp, who has one year less with the team.

Plus, I think a guy that plays against Oklahoma, Texas, Baylor, etc every year for 4 years gets exposed to a lot better defenses than a guy that plays the likes of Mercer, Chattanooga, Furman on a regular basis. I like Hodges and he had some positive qualities shown in the preseason, but I think Rudolph is further along in his development.

But, I get it. The bigger the underdog, the bigger the attraction, so Hodges gets a lot of love.

[tom444]

I totally slept on this guy during the preseason and training camp process. Wrote him off as a camp arm who had a few moments against furniture movers and future failed personal trainers. As a result, I know next to nothing about him.

What I think I saw today is that the kid is decisive as all get out. At least 3 throws today he hit his back foot on his drop and just let it rip. A good bit of mobility and appeared to have a good sense of where the pass rush was at all times.

Looked it up and the only two scouting reports I could find worth a darn say basically that.
http://www.pass2win.com/devlin-hodges-qb.html
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2019/03/hidden-gems-vol-3/

I suspect that no one associated with the Steelers is gonna rush Rudolph back. So Hodges may get the call against the Chargers and then the team has the bye week to get Rudolph's brain unscrambled.

I like the way he thinks. He made that a fun game to watch last night.

[DesertSteel]

I totally slept on this guy during the preseason and training camp process. Wrote him off as a camp arm who had a few moments against furniture movers and future failed personal trainers. As a result, I know next to nothing about him.

What I think I saw today is that the kid is decisive as all get out. At least 3 throws today he hit his back foot on his drop and just let it rip. A good bit of mobility and appeared to have a good sense of where the pass rush was at all times.

Looked it up and the only two scouting reports I could find worth a darn say basically that.
http://www.pass2win.com/devlin-hodges-qb.html
https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2019/03/hidden-gems-vol-3/

I suspect that no one associated with the Steelers is gonna rush Rudolph back. So Hodges may get the call against the Chargers and then the team has the bye week to get Rudolph's brain unscrambled.
Less decisiveness from Hodges yesterday. Much the same pattern from MR from his first action when Ben went down to when Fichtner had a week to scare him. Same with Duck. I'm glad to get the win last night, but it was slipping away fast.

[st33lersguy]

Passing over 10 yards seemed to be a struggle, I don't think he completed one pass over 10 yards last night, that would be problematic for a vet but for an undrafted 3rd string rookie making his first start, it's something to forgive at the moment. However, he did really well in the short passing game and showed some poise even when the ball went below his feet on the snap he handled it well. Poise isn't an issue at all.

[Mojouw]

Less decisiveness from Hodges yesterday. Much the same pattern from MR from his first action when Ben went down to when Fichtner had a week to scare him. Same with Duck. I'm glad to get the win last night, but it was slipping away fast.

For sure! He took longer to process last night than he did against the Ravens.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Passing over 10 yards seemed to be a struggle, I don't think he completed one pass over 10 yards last night, that would be problematic for a vet but for an undrafted 3rd string rookie making his first start, it's something to forgive at the moment. However, he did really well in the short passing game and showed some poise even when the ball went below his feet on the snap he handled it well. Poise isn't an issue at all.

Yes, same type of limited gameplan as when Rudolph got the first start. Only difference is that this is a win and everybody glosses over that fact, while in the first start(and loss) that Rudolph got, there were narratives of a weak arm and lack of confidence and even cool pass distribution graphs to show how he didn't push the football down the field.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Yes, same type of limited gameplan as when Rudolph got the first start. Only difference is that this is a win and everybody glosses over that fact, while in the first start(and loss) that Rudolph got, there were narratives of a weak arm and lack of confidence and even cool pass distribution graphs to show how he didn't push the football down the field. Great post! Was okay they limited Duck because of the big lead and it work out.

[Fire Goodell]

That INT was a duck blur

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

That INT was a duck blur INT Duck Fart ?

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I agree, that's a good way of saying it. For some reason, I really have more hope in him than in Mason. Don't know why. For all intents and purposes, Mason is a really good guy and works hard. There is just something . . . underwhelming, I guess, about him. It's his confidence is what you are seeing. I like Rudy but bet Hodges has the better career in the long run.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Duck reminds me of a young Brett Favre.

[Mojouw]

Duck reminds me of a young Brett Favre.

Minus the rocket arm, playmaking ability, and potential to hit jaw dropping passes from any spot on the field.

Other than that, he’s a direct comp.

[Craic]

Great post! Was okay they limited Duck because of the big lead and it work out.

So when they take the reigns off him, will he be


https://www.northsidesun.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/ducks%20unlimited%20logo.jpg?itok=P1642KP-

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Minus the rocket arm, playmaking ability, and potential to hit jaw dropping passes from any spot on the field.

Other than that, he’s a direct comp. Ok smart ass! Brett Favre was a nobody drafted by Atlanta. So there is that and Hodges hasn't got the chance to air it out and prove himself yet like Favre did. Brett was also a int king and think Duck could be that as well! Ps. sorry you missed the boat on Hodges and didn't pay attention to him in preseason.

[steelreserve]

I think Hodges should grow a beard and send dick pics to cheerleaders on his phone. You know who else had a beard and sent dick pics? BRETT FAVRE!

[Steeldude]

I think Hodges should grow a beard and send dick pics to cheerleaders on his phone. You know who else had a beard and sent dick pics? BRETT FAVRE!

Duck or dick?

[GoSlash27]

Hodges hasn't got the chance to air it out and prove himself yet like Favre did. Brett was also a int king and think Duck could be that as well! Ps. sorry you missed the boat on Hodges and didn't pay attention to him in preseason.

Funny you should say that. Duck did have the chance to air it out and prove himself in the preseason. He threw floaters. Same thing when you go back and look at his college highlights.
Mojo is correct on that point; Duck doesn't have Favre's rocket arm. Doesn't mean he can't be a successful QB, but comparing him to Favre is over the top IMO.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Ok smart ass! Brett Favre was a nobody drafted by Atlanta. So there is that and Hodges hasn't got the chance to air it out and prove himself yet like Favre did. Brett was also a int king and think Duck could be that as well! Ps. sorry you missed the boat on Hodges and didn't pay attention to him in preseason.

Favre was drafted #33 overall in the 2nd round of the NFL draft by Atlanta. He was far from being a "nobody".

Hodges looks more to have the skillset of Jared Zabransky than Brett Favre to me, IMO.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Favre was drafted #33 overall in the 2nd round of the NFL draft by Atlanta. He was far from being a "nobody".

Hodges looks more to have the skillset of Jared Zabransky than Brett Favre to me, IMO. My point is he reminds me of a gunslinger like Favre.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

My point is he reminds me of a gunslinger like Favre.

OK, but maybe next time you could check some facts if you don't know. Like how Favre wasn't a "nobody", but rather the first pick of the second round in the draft. So comparing him to Hodges that wasn't picked in the draft isn't anywhere close to being true.

I know you like the guy and have since the preseason, but the reality is that even in the preseason he completed only 52% of his passes and averaged 5 yards per completion, against mostly 3rd string defenders. So Favre like gunslinger could be conceived as a bit of a stretch. It could be similar to me saying that Benny Snell reminds me of a young Franco Harris.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

OK, but maybe next time you could check some facts if you don't know. Like how Favre wasn't a "nobody", but rather the first pick of the second round in the draft. So comparing him to Hodges that wasn't picked in the draft isn't anywhere close to being true.

I know you like the guy and have since the preseason, but the reality is that even in the preseason he completed only 52% of his passes and averaged 5 yards per completion, against mostly 3rd string defenders. So Favre like gunslinger could be conceived as a bit of a stretch. It could be similar to me saying that Benny Snell reminds me of a young Franco Harris. I knew who Favre was and had his rookie card back then. Me saying he was a nobody is he was not starting in Atlanta and if they thought so highly of him they wouldn't have traded him. He was a nobody while in Atlanta. Benny Snell reminds me of Franco later in his career when he would fall over for a yard lol.

[Mojouw]

Is Hodges a borderline alcoholic with a blossoming pill addiction? Because it was that partying lifestyle and lack of work ethic that played a massive part of Favre being traded out of Atlanta.

Glanville once claimed it would take a plane crash for Favre to see the field.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Is Hodges a borderline alcoholic with a blossoming pill addiction? Because it was that partying lifestyle and lack of work ethic that played a massive part of Favre being traded out of Atlanta.

Glanville once claimed it would take a plane crash for Favre to see the field. I thought the pill addiction came later. Anyways didn't they have Jeff George at the time? That is probably the main reason Favre didn't see the field.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Is Hodges a borderline alcoholic with a blossoming pill addiction? Because it was that partying lifestyle and lack of work ethic that played a massive part of Favre being traded out of Atlanta.

Glanville once claimed it would take a plane crash for Favre to see the field.

I like when Glanville used to bet opposing coaches that his alcoholic backup QB could throw a football into the upper deck in pre game warmups. I don't think Hodges has that kind of arm strength to sling it up there. :tt03:

[steelreserve]

Hodges reminds me more of Colt Brennan than Brett Favre in terms of football ability. Although hopefully his off-the-field life is more like the reverse of that, pills and dick pics notwithstanding. (For that, he can just change them to duck pics and be fine.)

[Born2Steel]

Any comparison of Duck to a HoF QB after 1 preseason limited view and 1 NFL start is extremely premature and is going to be picked apart mercilessly. There are things about his game I liked. There are also things that were less than impressive. Hopefully Rudolph is back after the bye for Miami. Although it may take starting Lynch to actually see some downfield accuracy.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Although it may take starting Lynch to actually see some downfield accuracy. :toofunny: His longest NFL completion in his career is 31 yards. He is the king of downfield accuracy in the NFL.

[Born2Steel]

:toofunny: His longest NFL completion in his career is 31 yards. He is the king of downfield accuracy in the NFL.

I’m so glad you looked that up on my behalf. :lol:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I’m so glad you looked that up on my behalf. :lol:

No problem. Was right there on NFL.com.

[DesertSteel]

:toofunny: His longest NFL completion in his career is 31 yards. He is the king of downfield accuracy in the NFL.
That was an indeed rich assessment of Lynch you responded to!

[Mojouw]

:toofunny: His longest NFL completion in his career is 31 yards. He is the king of downfield accuracy in the NFL.

The sad part is that may still mean that the original statement is true. Hodges and Rudolph haven't hit anything that far downfield.

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I like when Glanville used to bet opposing coaches that his alcoholic backup QB could throw a football into the upper deck in pre game warmups. I don't think Hodges has that kind of arm strength to sling it up there. :tt03:

Can you imagine if any of this came out nowadays? An alcoholic QB who the front office drafted over the protests of the coaching staff. A coach who buried the guy on the depth chart and then bet pre-game that he could do tricks?

Oooohhhhhh booooy!

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

The sad part is that may still mean that the original statement is true. Hodges and Rudolph haven't hit anything that far downfield.

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Can you imagine if any of this came out nowadays? An alcoholic QB who the front office drafted over the protests of the coaching staff. A coach who buried the guy on the depth chart and then bet pre-game that he could do tricks?

Oooohhhhhh booooy! Plus Jerry use to leave home tickets for Elvis.

[86WARD]

Wonder if people still rather have Dobbs...

[Born2Steel]

Wonder if people still rather have Dobbs...

Dobbs does throw a beauty of a deep pass. Unfortunately all of his short routes he throws a bit high.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

The sad part is that may still mean that the original statement is true. Hodges and Rudolph haven't hit anything that far downfield.

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y!

Here are 3 TD's put on film that show good downfield accuracy.

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-s-deep-td-to-holton

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-goes-deep-to-washington

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000001060942/Mason-Rudolph-finds-Diontae-Johnson-WIDE-OPEN-for-43-yard-TD

[Mojouw]

Here are 3 TD's put on film that show good downfield accuracy.

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-s-deep-td-to-holton

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-goes-deep-to-washington

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000001060942/Mason-Rudolph-finds-Diontae-Johnson-WIDE-OPEN-for-43-yard-TD

Yup. I know Rudolph is capable of it. He’s just got to trust what he sees. Maybe if he plays with a lead?

[GoSlash27]

Here are 3 TD's put on film that show good downfield accuracy.

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-s-deep-td-to-holton

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-goes-deep-to-washington

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000001060942/Mason-Rudolph-finds-Diontae-Johnson-WIDE-OPEN-for-43-yard-TD

That's why Rudolph is the #2 QB and Duck is #3. Not that I'm complaining about Duck, mind you. I'm thankful that he's as good as he is.

[pczach]

The sad part is that may still mean that the original statement is true. Hodges and Rudolph haven't hit anything that far downfield.

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Can you imagine if any of this came out nowadays? An alcoholic QB who the front office drafted over the protests of the coaching staff. A coach who buried the guy on the depth chart and then bet pre-game that he could do tricks?

Oooohhhhhh booooy!



They would probably label that coach a cheerleader and give him a pair of cool mirrored shades!:chuckle:

[Fire Goodell]

It's his confidence is what you are seeing. I like Rudy but bet Hodges has the better career in the long run.

Too early to say if that confidence is for real, or if he's just a player that literally has nothing to lose. He was someone that wasn't expected to even make an NFL roster. Either way, his poise was good to see

[Born2Steel]

Here are 3 TD's put on film that show good downfield accuracy.

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-s-deep-td-to-holton

https://www.steelers.com/video/highlight-rudolph-goes-deep-to-washington

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000001060942/Mason-Rudolph-finds-Diontae-Johnson-WIDE-OPEN-for-43-yard-TD

Just to keep the pot stirred....are we counting preseason games now as well? May have to go back to the stats board if that’s the case. :boink:

[DesertSteel]

Just to keep the pot stirred....are we counting preseason games now as well? May have to go back to the stats board if that’s the case. :boink:
You should have seen the bomb I threw my son the other day in the backyard!

[86WARD]

You should have seen the bomb I threw my son the other day in the backyard!

But was it with a regulation ball??

[DesertSteel]

But was it with a regulation ball??
It was! There was even pass interference from one of our 10 dogs.

[steelreserve]

It was! There was even pass interference from one of our 10 dogs.

Holy shit, you may be on to something. As far as I know, the NFL doesn't have any rules for what happens when animals run on the field. Next time an opponent breaks free in the open field? 10 dogs running at him from out of the end zone. Forget Tomlin and his sideline-tripping bullshit - total amateur hour.

[GoSlash27]

Just to keep the pot stirred....are we counting preseason games now as well? May have to go back to the stats board if that’s the case. :boink:

Hell yeah we're counting preseason games. I'll also look at college, high school, and even peewee if that's what it takes.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Hell yeah we're counting preseason games. I'll also look at college, high school, and even peewee if that's what it takes.

I'd love to break down some all 22 film on peewee QB's for their downfield accuracy. :sarcasm: