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DesertSteel
09-16-2019, 05:13 PM
Who's out there that the Steelers can sign for QB2? Landry Jones is under XFL contract, so rule him out. Who is on the outside looking in after all the cuts? Preferably a veteran. I don't think Hodges is ready for #2.

Mojouw
09-16-2019, 05:40 PM
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2019/ufa/quarterback/available/

It isn't pretty. But that list does not count guys who were not under contract last year. So maybe there are several more options on some deep call sheet somewhere?

This guy got a ton of hype this preseason : https://www.azcardinals.com/news/cardinals-use-practice-squad-to-add-third-qb-kyle-sloter -- but poaching PS players to rot on your bench is usually an unwritten no-no among NFL GMs.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-16-2019, 05:46 PM
I like what I seen with Hodges and face it if Rudolph goes down this season really is done. Also like my chances with Hodges over the bums mention that are available. We know what they are.

DesertSteel
09-16-2019, 06:06 PM
I like what I seen with Hodges and face it if Rudolph goes down this season really is done. Also like my chances with Hodges over the bums mention that are available. We know what they are.
But it might be just for one game or a half. A veteran can play with enough savvy to pull one out.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-16-2019, 06:14 PM
But it might be just for one game or a half. A veteran can play with enough savvy to pull one out. I get your point but with our D it won't matter. Might as well give Hodges a shot.

86WARD
09-16-2019, 06:40 PM
They have them...no need for another at the moment. Rudolph and Hodges are it. This team doesn’t need to mismanage the roster any further than it already has. Signing a third QB to do nothing is just taking away from a positional need.

Shoes
09-16-2019, 07:12 PM
Does Josh McCown still have a pulse?

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They have them...no need for another at the moment. Rudolph and Hodges are it. This team doesn’t need to mismanage the roster any further than it already has. Signing a third QB to do nothing is just taking away from a positional need.

Yes but Tomlin likes 3 QB's

DesertSteel
09-16-2019, 07:31 PM
They have them...no need for another at the moment. Rudolph and Hodges are it. This team doesn’t need to mismanage the roster any further than it already has. Signing a third QB to do nothing is just taking away from a positional need.
Hodges is not a QB2.

st33lersguy
09-16-2019, 07:38 PM
"KaEpErNiCk!"

lol

steelreserve
09-16-2019, 07:46 PM
If anything happens to Rudolph, it doesn't really matter whether it's Hodges or someone else, the offense is going to play like shit, and we have to face the fact that it is just not our year.

We do need someone just so we have enough players in case of such an emergency. I guess I'd prefer someone younger who might have the potential to surprise us and do ok. Is Paxton Lynch, like ... SO bad that he can't play QB at all? Or just not starter material but might have a good game here and there.

Born2Steel
09-16-2019, 07:47 PM
There's always Paxton Lynch. :D

Mojouw
09-16-2019, 07:48 PM
There's always Paxton Lynch. :D

I totally believed in that dude when he came out.

steelreserve
09-16-2019, 07:54 PM
There's always Paxton Lynch. :D

I haven't been keeping track of that guy at all, but I have the feeling I missed some huge punchline.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-16-2019, 08:01 PM
Hodges is not a QB2. Proof he is not ?

DesertSteel
09-16-2019, 08:03 PM
Proof he is not ?
I’m posting my opinion, just like you.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-16-2019, 08:07 PM
I’m posting my opinion, just like you. Cool and truth is we don't know if he is or not till given the chance. Well for now he is actually QB2 :heh:

86WARD
09-16-2019, 08:12 PM
Hodges is not a QB2.

If Rudolph goes down, they can address it then. It is what it is...does it really matter at that point?

j-d-s
09-16-2019, 08:51 PM
"KaEpErNiCk!"

lol
Then we might as well sign Tim Tebow...

teegre
09-16-2019, 08:53 PM
Let’s trade for Josh Dobbs...

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-16-2019, 08:54 PM
Let’s trade for Josh Dobbs... Maybe they will throw in Ramsey too.

DesertSteel
09-16-2019, 08:55 PM
Cool and truth is we don't know if he is or not till given the chance. Well for now he is actually QB2 :heh:
I have a feeling the team won’t see it that way. They’ll pick up a veteran.

teegre
09-16-2019, 08:57 PM
Maybe they will throw in Ramsey too.

Don't get me started on “trading for Ramsey”...

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-16-2019, 08:59 PM
Don't get me started on “trading for Ramsey”... Haha

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I have a feeling the team won’t see it that way. They’ll pick up a veteran. Well if they don't feel that way then I'm sure they will get someone else. We will see.

86WARD
09-16-2019, 09:30 PM
Don't get me started on “trading for Ramsey”...

Lol. You and me both!!

That would be hilarious if they traded for Ramsey and Dobbs...

teegre
09-16-2019, 09:32 PM
Lol. You and me both!!

That would be hilarious if they traded for Ramsey and Dobbs...

And just like that... poof... my dream once again vaporizes.

86WARD
09-16-2019, 09:33 PM
And just like that... poof... my dream once again vaporizes.

Some day...some day...

AtlantaDan
09-17-2019, 10:37 AM
There's always Paxton Lynch. :D

Paxton Lynch visits Steelers

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/17/paxton-lynch-visits-steelers/

:sofunny:

DesertSteel
09-17-2019, 10:48 AM
Paxton Lynch visits Steelers

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/17/paxton-lynch-visits-steelers/

:sofunny:

I'd rather have Mr. Butt Fumble.

cubanstogie
09-17-2019, 10:50 AM
signed to practice squad, that was fast.

steelreserve
09-17-2019, 10:56 AM
signed to practice squad, that was fast.

Is there some particular fatal flaw about Lynch that makes people laugh when his name is brought up? Or did he just kind of look ... not so good. Serious question, I never actually saw him play, so I don't know.

86WARD
09-17-2019, 11:00 AM
Is there some particular fatal flaw about Lynch that makes people laugh when his name is brought up? Or did he just kind of look ... not so good. Serious question, I never actually saw him play, so I don't know.

He was supposed to be good and people here really wanted him at one point but I think he just didn’t look good while he was in game...

fansince'76
09-17-2019, 11:05 AM
Is there some particular fatal flaw about Lynch that makes people laugh when his name is brought up? Or did he just kind of look ... not so good. Serious question, I never actually saw him play, so I don't know.

I live in the Denver area and trust me, he sucks - REALLY bad. I'm talking Mark Malone/Cliff Stoudt bad.

Squeegee Thompson
09-17-2019, 11:09 AM
I live in the Denver area and trust me, he sucks - REALLY bad. I'm talking Mark Malone/Cliff Stoudt bad.

I live in the Denver area as well, so I listen to a lot of the talking head sports dudes on radio. The issue with Lynch was his work ethic. Last-in / first-out kind of guy. They gave him every chance to succeed in Denver (burning a 1 on a QB will grant you that patience), but he never took the opportunity seriously, and was woefully underprepared on game day.

Anything more than PS fodder now that Hodges is on the 53 is a waste, IMO. This guy just never got it.

fansince'76
09-17-2019, 11:11 AM
I live in the Denver area as well, so I listen to a lot of the talking head sports dudes on radio. The issue with Lynch was his work ethic. Last-in / first-out kind of guy. They gave him every chance to succeed in Denver (burning a 1 on a QB will grant you that patience), but he never took the opportunity seriously, and was woefully underprepared on game day.

Anything more than PS fodder now that Hodges is on the 53 is a waste, IMO. This guy just never got it.

You're a better man than I - I can't stand the local Broncos radio homers. :salute:

I'll just put it this way - Lynch was a round 1 pick that lost the starting QB competition to a 7th rounder - twice.

Squeegee Thompson
09-17-2019, 11:16 AM
You're a better man than I - I can't stand the local Broncos radio homers. :salute:

I'll just put it this way - Lynch was a round 1 pick that lost the starting QB competition to a 7th rounder - twice.

Actually, Broncos radio is a pleasure to listen to ... when they suck. Like now. It's when they're actually competent that I can't stand to listen to them.

steelreserve
09-17-2019, 11:17 AM
He was supposed to be good and people here really wanted him at one point but I think he just didn’t look good while he was in game...

Ah, ok. Well, then I guess why not give him a shot if there's really nobody out there. If it's just "a body" we're looking for. (Hopefully we won't need him anyway.)

From the look of people's reactions, it sounded like he might have had some Tommy Maddox moment where he just fell apart and couldn't throw the ball anymore, or something like that.

Born2Steel
09-17-2019, 11:19 AM
Paxton Lynch is a taller, mobile, stronger arm, better accuracy version of Landry Jones. He can run what he knows of the playbook very well. He just doesn’t know much of the playbook. Fichtner might be the perfect QB coach for a guy like him.

Lynch didn’t work in Denver because nobody has worked in Denver. If the bar is going to be left at Elway level it may be a long time before somebody does work in Denver. Just sayin’.

Mojouw
09-17-2019, 11:28 AM
I could not have been higher on Lynch as a "Sleeper" QB the year he came out. I actually hoped he slipped far enough that the Steelers considered it.

I have not heard or seen good things since. But he does have all the necessary physical tools. Maybe getting his ego collapsed and a new start....yada yada.

He probably just stinks. But it is a PS QB. I'll take a guy that many had a 1st round/franchise grade on not that long ago for the PS any day.

Rotorhead
09-17-2019, 11:33 AM
I live in Denver also, Lynch is average at best, but his supporting cast was terrible. No OL, 1 WR and an average running game when he was here. The other problem was his predecessor was Manning, so he was never going to fill those shoes. He could be a decent backup if it comes to that.

Fire Goodell
09-17-2019, 11:35 AM
Paxton Lynch is a taller, mobile, stronger arm, better accuracy version of Landry Jones. He can run what he knows of the playbook very well. He just doesn’t know much of the playbook. Fichtner might be the perfect QB coach for a guy like him.

Lynch didn’t work in Denver because nobody has worked in Denver. If the bar is going to be left at Elway level it may be a long time before somebody does work in Denver. Just sayin’.

I always thought Elway was kind of overrated, yeah he had a cannon arm and exciting highlight reel, also threw a ton of interceptions. He won 2 superbowls, but mostly off the legs of Terrell Davis. Maybe I didn't catch many of his games early in his career (started watching as a kid in 1990), but I seen him play terrible until they got TD

Born2Steel
09-17-2019, 12:06 PM
I always thought Elway was kind of overrated, yeah he had a cannon arm and exciting highlight reel, also threw a ton of interceptions. He won 2 superbowls, but mostly off the legs of Terrell Davis. Maybe I didn't catch many of his games early in his career (started watching as a kid in 1990), but I seen him play terrible until they got TD

Elway made 5 trips to the SuperBowl. Yeah he was pretty good.

tube517
09-17-2019, 12:08 PM
I always thought Elway was kind of overrated, yeah he had a cannon arm and exciting highlight reel, also threw a ton of interceptions. He won 2 superbowls, but mostly off the legs of Terrell Davis. Maybe I didn't catch many of his games early in his career (started watching as a kid in 1990), but I seen him play terrible until they got TD

He got clobbered in 3 Super Bowls before he got TD. Dan Reeves' teams were soft.

Fire Goodell
09-17-2019, 12:18 PM
Elway made 5 trips to the SuperBowl. Yeah he was pretty good.

I only seen his last two, but I guess I only started watching when he was in the tail end of his career

Mojouw
09-17-2019, 12:25 PM
Elway made 5 trips to the SuperBowl. Yeah he was pretty good.

It also needs to be noted that he carried those other SB teams. They had like 2 good players on defense, and then Elway hero ball as the entire offensive plan. It was something to see.

Born2Steel
09-17-2019, 12:34 PM
He got clobbered in 3 Super Bowls before he got TD. Dan Reeves' teams were soft.

His SB teams did get clobbered. Those defenses were terrible though. They lost to Doug Williams 42-10 , gave up 55pts vs the 49ers, and lost to the Giants by almost 20. Was Elway “over-rated”? Possibly but he was still a very good QB for most of his career.

steelreserve
09-17-2019, 12:46 PM
He got clobbered in 3 Super Bowls before he got TD. Dan Reeves' teams were soft.

What I remember of the Elway era Broncos is that they had a great passing game, a perennially crappy running game, and no defense whatsoever. Same idea as the Dan Marino Dolphins. I don't think it's Elway's fault for losing the Super Bowl; it was amazing that they kept getting there with such a one-dimensional team.

tube517
09-17-2019, 01:51 PM
What I remember of the Elway era Broncos is that they had a great passing game, a perennially crappy running game, and no defense whatsoever. Same idea as the Dan Marino Dolphins. I don't think it's Elway's fault for losing the Super Bowl; it was amazing that they kept getting there with such a one-dimensional team.

The AFC as a whole was weak. The NFC just dominated from 1984 to 1998 when the Broncos broke the streak.

He wilted in the Super Bowl losses though. Didn't play well in any of them.

86WARD
09-17-2019, 01:57 PM
I always thought Elway was kind of overrated, yeah he had a cannon arm and exciting highlight reel, also threw a ton of interceptions. He won 2 superbowls, but mostly off the legs of Terrell Davis. Maybe I didn't catch many of his games early in his career (started watching as a kid in 1990), but I seen him play terrible until they got TD

I’m on that boat with you. I’ve never thought he was anywhere near the level/pedestal that people put him on. Yes it was a great story and I thought he was good., but there were a lot better QBs out there than him.

GoSlash27
09-17-2019, 06:42 PM
Proof he is not ?

"Duck" is scrappy and a solid leader. From what I saw in the preseason, he's got good vision and football IQ. Problem is he doesn't seem to have the arm strength. He floats his passes, even the short ones. That'll get you picked in the NFL.
That's just my impression and I hope I'm wrong.

st33lersguy
09-17-2019, 07:33 PM
In those 3 Super Bowls, Elway was a one-man show going up against legendary teams. In '86 he went up against a dominant Bill Parcels led Giants team, the year Lawrence Taylor got NFL MVP as a defensive player. '87 was Joe Gibbs' Redskins teams which were great teams. '89 was what many argue is the greatest team of the 49ers dynasty, with Joe Montana being named NFL MVP. No NFL QB is going to be competitive against those kind of teams with teams like that. I always find it funny how everyone gives Dan Marino a pass for making 1 Super Bow and only making 2 more AFC championship games in his career because of his supporting cast, yet Elway makes 3 Super Bowls in 4 years without a supporting cast but he's overrated

Mojouw
09-17-2019, 07:35 PM
In those 3 Super Bowls, Elway was a one-man show going up against legendary teams. In '86 he went up against a dominant Bill Parcels led Giants team, the year Lawrence Taylor got NFL MVP as a defensive player. '87 was Joe Gibbs' Redskins teams which were great teams. '89 was what many argue is the greatest team of the 49ers dynasty, with Joe Montana being named NFL MVP. No NFL QB is going to be competitive against those kind of teams with teams like that. I always find it funny how everyone gives Dan Marino a pass for making 1 Super Bow and only making 2 more AFC championship games in his career because of his supporting cast, yet Elway makes 3 Super Bowls in 4 years without a supporting cast but he's overrated

Well said. Elway was a good as everyone says he was. Just ridiculous what he pulled of in his early career. Just dragged some dudes to SBs.

Born2Steel
09-17-2019, 07:38 PM
Well said. Elway was a good as everyone says he was. Just ridiculous what he pulled of in his early career. Just dragged some dudes to SBs.

And crushing Browns fans hopes and dreams along the way.

Mojouw
09-17-2019, 07:45 PM
And crushing Browns fans hopes and dreams along the way.

Let’s not forget that. I bet Byner and Kosar don’t.

86WARD
09-17-2019, 09:33 PM
In those 3 Super Bowls, Elway was a one-man show going up against legendary teams. In '86 he went up against a dominant Bill Parcels led Giants team, the year Lawrence Taylor got NFL MVP as a defensive player. '87 was Joe Gibbs' Redskins teams which were great teams. '89 was what many argue is the greatest team of the 49ers dynasty, with Joe Montana being named NFL MVP. No NFL QB is going to be competitive against those kind of teams with teams like that. I always find it funny how everyone gives Dan Marino a pass for making 1 Super Bow and only making 2 more AFC championship games in his career because of his supporting cast, yet Elway makes 3 Super Bowls in 4 years without a supporting cast but he's overrated

Elway arguably had better teams than Marino did. His defense was underrated...which had a few pro bowl/all pro type players. The offense had a pro bowl back in Sammy Winder who wasn’t terrible, he had a decent O-Line and the three amigos in the 80s. It wasn’t Elway and then 21 other scrubs...he was a very good QB, but he’s not Montana, Marino, Brady, Manning, Graham, Unitas, etc, type levels. He’s second tier when it comes to the All-Time Greats...

Mojouw
09-17-2019, 10:38 PM
I dunno. If you have to pick a QB in their prime to win one game; Elway has to be in that conversation. Maybe not the top of the list but he’s gotta be on it in my opinion.

Montana, Brady, Marino, Favre, Manning, Elway. Are the top tier of guys I’ve seen play for that list. Then I’ll consider Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Moon, Kelly, and I guess Aikman?

Don’t know just a thought.

fansince'76
09-18-2019, 12:12 AM
Elway made 5 trips to the SuperBowl. Yeah he was pretty good.

And Elway was the ONLY reason they made it to the first 3 of those.


He got clobbered in 3 Super Bowls before he got TD. Dan Reeves' teams were soft.

One-man team, just like the Dolphins with Marino.


I always find it funny how everyone gives Dan Marino a pass for making 1 Super Bow and only making 2 more AFC championship games in his career because of his supporting cast, yet Elway makes 3 Super Bowls in 4 years without a supporting cast but he's overrated

Well, with all due respect to Elway, Marino WAS the better QB. Marino is still the best pure passer I've ever seen and would put up RIDICULOUS numbers in the Arena League/flag football game they're playing today - 6K+ yards and 60+ TDs per season, easy. Hell, the guy smoked the '85 Bears, for God's sake.