Who wins the Backup QB job? Josh Dobbs vs Mason Rudolph

[polamalubeast]

BR, Rudolph, Hodges.

Trade Dobbs.

For what?...For a Third string TE?

Dobbs has no trade value.

[Butch]

For what?...For a Third string TE?

Dobbs has no trade value.

If he can catch turn him into a WR, if he can't make him an RB. Never hurts to have someone like that at another position. Wonder if the Steelers have even thought about that?

[polamalubeast]

If he can catch turn him into a WR, if he can't make him an RB. Never hurts to have someone like that at another position. Wonder if the Steelers have even thought about that?

I do not think he's fast enough to play at this position.

[st33lersguy]

He is the NCAA’s all-time leading passer (yards).

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Indeed.

The first knock on him was that he played at a smaller school/against weaker competition. But, so did Khalil Mack... and, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, heck, even Big Ben.

People will disregard what Hodges is doing, because it’s against “back-ups”. But, the kid has “it”. He was the talk of minicamp for a reason.

Carson Wentz came from the same subdivision and he was the 2nd pick. Louisiana Tech was in Division 2 when Bradshaw was there

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[Mojouw]

What would Dobbs' trade value be versus his value as a not terrible 3rd QB to the Steelers?

So if he is ONLY good enough to be a trade-bait 3rd QB, then what is that worth on the open market? A 7th rounder? A conditional 5th? Split the difference and say a 6th rounder.

What is more valuable to a team with deep playoff aspirations an extra low round dart throw or a 3rd QB that might actually be able to help a team win a game? I don't actually know. But it isn't like Dobbs is fetching a 3rd or 4th rounder in return.

I guess whether or not the team believes in Hodges and feels that he wouldn't make the PS could change the value judgements...but still a bit too early for all that.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

BR, Rudolph, Hodges.

Trade Dobbs.

Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.

[cubanstogie]

Landry’s trade value last year would have been higher than Dobbs right now. I see him on a practice squad somewhere. I only saw Rudolph’s touchdown led drive , so hard to judge with penalties every other play but he looked great on that drive. A few nice scrambles, nice throws in tight windows and dumped ball to rb’s when appropriate. I would say is a Neil O’Donnell type right now. We need to see more obviously

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Landry’s trade value last year would have been higher than Dobbs right now. I see him on a practice squad somewhere. I only saw Rudolph’s touchdown led drive , so hard to judge with penalties every other play but he looked great on that drive. A few nice scrambles, nice throws in tight windows and dumped ball to rb’s when appropriate. I would say is a Neil O’Donnell type right now. We need to see more obviously

[GoSlash27]

Pffft... what did he ever do!?!

Next you’ll try to tell me that some QB from Northern Illinois would be found bagging groceries one year, and then become the league MVP the next year.

UNI actually. He was stocking shelves at HyVee.
-Iowegian

[GoSlash27]

Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.

At least with this fan base... But how hard can it be actually? All you have to do is come into a game cold with little to no practice reps, know the entire playbook backwards and forwards, have the confidence of the entire first string offense, and play QB as well as Ben Roethlisberger. Piece of cake. :sarcasm:

[st33lersguy]

Landry’s trade value last year would have been higher than Dobbs right now.

Are you sure? Landry was unemployed for months after being cut, he signed with the Jags but was then released after a couple weeks (keep in mind this a team starting Blake Bortles at QB). He then remains unemployed for months until the offseason where the Raiders sign him only to release him after only a few weeks (keep in mind the Raiders as of now are keeping Nathan Peterman on their roster, who may be the worst QB in NFL history).

I doubt any team was willing to trade for Landry

[Steeler-in-west]

Being able to move the chains and make accurate throws is the job of a backup. My biggest doubt about Dobbs is that he was terrible against a bottom feeding Oakland team last year. He hasn’t done much to change my mind. Rudolph and Hodges seem more capable to help the team win an ‘Oakland’ game this year if called upon.

[polamalubeast]

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[hawaiiansteeler]

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with a 45.6 QBR? :rolleyes:

[polamalubeast]

with a 45.6 QBR? :rolleyes:



This is the rock bottom for PFF...

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

with a 45.6 QBR? :rolleyes: :rofl: They must be driving the Dobbs Slobbering bandwagon.

[polamalubeast]

Seriously, even on the eye test he was awful ... His interception and his awful pass on the 3rd down and 5 some play before should be enough to have a negative grade, especially that Dobbs had only 11 pass attempts

[Edman]

Josh Dobbs hasn't regressed. It's just that the QB competiton is much better than before.

When Dobbs won the #2 spot last season, he was going up against stiffs like Landry Jones and Bart Houston. This is why the Dobbs bandwagon was built in 2017-2018. Now he's going up against a progressing Mason Rudolph and Duck, who as a rookie is even better than both Dobbs and Rudolph's rookie seasons, and just may end up being the Darkhorse heir to Ben no one expected.

Dobbs is good, but he just isn't that good to seperate himself. His foepaws and issues (Accuracy, footwork) are magnified tremendously. Being the only quarterback to toss an interception last night (a horrible one in fact) makes it even worse.

[ALLD]

Dobbs needs to put the XFL on speed dial.

[Steeldude]

Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.

I despised the pick from day one.

[Butch]

Interesting on how all the Dobbs slobbering has so quickly changed to sentiments of "trade Dobbs" .

I think the most fickle position of all to be in, is the Steelers backup QB position.

I distinctly remember a Steeler fan at the bar who wanted the Steelers to put in Dobbs when were down late and playing the Jags...I literally laughed out loud.

[polamalubeast]

I despised the pick from day one.

I also hated this pick since day one, same thing for Rudolph, but it was not because of the player (especially in the case of Rudolph) but because the steelers did not need a QB right now .... But at the same time, the threat of retirement of Ben Roethlisberger's was one of the reasons why the steelers had drafted his 2 QBs, but I think the only reason why Ben had talked about retiring after the 2016 season was because of Todd Haley .

[cubanstogie]

Are you sure? Landry was unemployed for months after being cut, he signed with the Jags but was then released after a couple weeks (keep in mind this a team starting Blake Bortles at QB). He then remains unemployed for months until the offseason where the Raiders sign him only to release him after only a few weeks (keep in mind the Raiders as of now are keeping Nathan Peterman on their roster, who may be the worst QB in NFL history).

I doubt any team was willing to trade for Landry
That’s my point, if We couldn’t get anything for an established backup , how would we get something for a third string unproven. I actually thought Landry would land somewhere, not the worst back up in league for sure.

[polamalubeast]

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[Dwinsgames]

Impressive!!! Truly. Not many outside of San Diego know how good The Burner was. This post made my day. :nod:

Turnertheburner.com is a real thing ... trust me I have been a fan since Northern Illinois ...wanted the steelers to draft him in the worst kind of way ...

[teegre]

UNI actually. He was stocking shelves at HyVee.
-Iowegian

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[polamalubeast]

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[Edman]

I also hated this pick since day one, same thing for Rudolph, but it was not because of the player (especially in the case of Rudolph) but because the steelers did not need a QB right now .... But at the same time, the threat of retirement of Ben Roethlisberger's was one of the reasons why the steelers had drafted his 2 QBs, but I think the only reason why Ben had talked about retiring after the 2016 season was because of Todd Haley .

Ben's word is law in the Steelers clubhouse. If he is talking retirement, especially out in the open to the media, then you can't just dismiss it as fluff. Todd Haley or no.

[polamalubeast]

Ben's word is law in the Steelers clubhouse. If he is talking retirement, especially out in the open to the media, then you can't just dismiss it as fluff. Todd Haley or no.

Very few QB would have been able to endure Todd Haley for 6 long years.

It's not the only time a QB forces an organization to do something ... Tom Brady had forced the pats to trade Jimmy Garoppolo 2 years ago..The important thing that happens very rarely something like that and that happened very rarely for Ben a thing like that

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Ben's word is law in the Steelers clubhouse. If he is talking retirement, especially out in the open to the media, then you can't just dismiss it as fluff. Todd Haley or no. So true, Ben's talking of retirement had to be seriously considered and having a viable #2QB on the roster was made necessary as soon as that discussion was out there.

I didn't like the drafting of Dobbs, because he wasn't ever looking worthy of being anything more than a backup QB, IMO. He didn't look like a starting NFL QB in the Senior Bowl or college. Rudolph at least has the footwork, arm strength, productivity and other intangibles as leadership, 3 seasons at Manning Passing academy, etc....that make him look like he will be able to start games in the NFL.

[SteelersNorth]

So true, Ben's talking of retirement had to be seriously considered and having a viable #2QB on the roster was made necessary as soon as that discussion was out there.

I didn't like the drafting of Dobbs, because he wasn't ever looking worthy of being anything more than a backup QB, IMO. He didn't look like a starting NFL QB in the Senior Bowl or college. Rudolph at least has the footwork, arm strength, productivity and other intangibles as leadership, 3 seasons at Manning Passing academy, etc....that make him look like he will be able to start games in the NFL.

which he has ZERO productivity of at the NFL level but you're right he's a 'leader'. Feel like im watching NFL Network with Tomlinson...'he looks like a player' well no shit sherlock lol how about some actual analysis.
Rudolph is becoming my backup version of Aaron Rodgers being grossly overrated without justification. It's just here say and fluff like this to boost stature into the upper echelon that makes me vomit.

And the Manning thing is fucking hilarious!
I'm 6'4 230...I bet if I attended his academy it would make me look like I could start in the NFL too LOL!

How about people learn to accept that he's not the guy to take over he's a back up nothing more.

I'd pick Hodges before Rudolph because I can't stand the fictitious hype.

[Mojouw]

I mean if you are going to put someone on blast for lacking in actual analysis, it might be useful to offer some in your own reply.

But what do I know.

[Rotorhead]

which he has ZERO productivity of at the NFL level but you're right he's a 'leader'. Feel like im watching NFL Network with Tomlinson...'he looks like a player' well no shit sherlock lol how about some actual analysis.
Rudolph is becoming my backup version of Aaron Rodgers being grossly overrated without justification. It's just here say and fluff like this to boost stature into the upper echelon that makes me vomit.

And the Manning thing is fucking hilarious!
I'm 6'4 230...I bet if I attended his academy it would make me look like I could start in the NFL too LOL!

How about people learn to accept that he's not the guy to take over he's a back up nothing more.

I'd pick Hodges before Rudolph because I can't stand the fictitious hype.

Well, it is his second year. He proactively went out and got a QB coach to work on his issues and his progress from last preseason to this preseason is visibly better. Better footwork, very good accuracy, checking down, better fundamentals. He appears to be in command in the huddle and the players work to make plays for him (which speaks to leadership). Obviously he doesn’t have years of NFL experience to grade him on, however based on the above, he looks to be the real deal. What is not to like? Dobbs is more mobile and has decent long ball accuracy, but based on last season and this preseason, is completely inaccurate on the short crossing routes, he also doesn’t set his feet before some of his throws (see int against KC) so he needs to improve his fundamentals (something Rudolph did on his own remember). I wasn’t able to see Hodges play against KC (thanks NFL network) but from the first game, he played well also. If I had to make the cuts today, I would keep Rudolph and Hodges honestly, can’t have those big misses like Dobbs has on the short crossing routes.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

which he has ZERO productivity of at the NFL level but you're right he's a 'leader'. Feel like im watching NFL Network with Tomlinson...'he looks like a player' well no shit sherlock lol how about some actual analysis.
Rudolph is becoming my backup version of Aaron Rodgers being grossly overrated without justification. It's just here say and fluff like this to boost stature into the upper echelon that makes me vomit.

And the Manning thing is fucking hilarious!
I'm 6'4 230...I bet if I attended his academy it would make me look like I could start in the NFL too LOL!

How about people learn to accept that he's not the guy to take over he's a back up nothing more.

I'd pick Hodges before Rudolph because I can't stand the fictitious hype.

Somebody piss in your corn flakes this morning?

Have you watched any interviews of Rudolph during the draft process? The interviews at the Senior Bowl with Mike Mayock and Charles Davis?, The pre draft QB session with Steve Mariucci? The 30 minute QB2QB show last year with Russell Wilson and Mason Rudolph? All are some good sources to gain insight into qualities that cannot be found on the stat sheet.

As for the Manning Passing Academy, I think being invited to be a Camp Counselor there is an honor and an opportunity to learn from greats and pass on to the younger generation of QB registrants. The starters at Ole Miss and Tennessee get automatic invites, while guys like Rudolph (who attended 3 seasons in a row) have to be selected. I don't see the reason for hate on guys that are selected multiple times to be part of counselling future college QB's. But have at it.

[Shoes]

Checking in @ 3'6" and 550. I agree El. :chuckle:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Checking in @ 3'6" and 550. I agree El. :chuckle:

:toofunny: Is that in bare feet, or with the Shoes on? Either way, very imposing in a B.J. Raji kind of way.

5'11-3/4", 230 and just sitting around waiting for my invite to camp.

[Shoes]

:toofunny: Is that in bare feet, or with the Shoes on? Either way, very imposing in a B.J. Raji kind of way.

5'11-3/4", 230 and just sitting around waiting for my invite to camp.

That would be "Shoes" on and besides that I have no opinion on Steeler TE position. :chuckle:

[Moose]

I'm leaning towards Rudolph right now. Dobbs just hasn't impressed me at all, I just don't think he could win games if Ben went down. The long scoring drive that Rudolph had against KC proved it to me. It seems that the player's are comfortable with him, he checks the whole field, reads the defenses, and looks to handle the plays with confidence. Hodge also seems to deserve some serious looks and snaps as a 3rd. Dobbs just looks like a simple, average QB ( not franchise) to me. Just my opinion. Keep Rudooph as back up and battle out Hodge vs Dobbs for possible 3rd.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

That would be "Shoes" on and besides that I have no opinion on Steeler TE position. :chuckle:

OK, but you do know that the Steelers could have passed on Dobbs and instead selected George Kittle in the 4th round in 2017? :behindsofa:

[Shoes]

OK, but you do know that the Steelers could have passed on Dobbs and instead selected George Kittle in the 4th round in 2017? :behindsofa:.


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[Hawkman]

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Nice to see you. Must have been vacationing in Nova.

[polamalubeast]

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[86WARD]

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Sold.

[DesertSteel]

There's no trade market for Dobbs. The same people were saying trade Landry Jones for a 4th lol.

[Mojouw]

There's no trade market for Dobbs. The same people were saying trade Landry Jones for a 4th lol.

Nailed it.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Sold.

me too, I'll take a conditional 7th round draft pick in 2029 for Dobbs...

[polamalubeast]

Randy Fichtner Breaks Down The Rudolph Vs Dobbs Battle

ByAlex Kozora

Mike Tomlin framed it as an ongoing battle.

And Randy Fichtner provided the update.

Speaking with Steelers.com’s Missi Matthews, Fichtner gave his evaluation of Mason Rudolph and Josh Dobbs.

“They’re both different types of quarterbacks,” Fichtner explained. “Josh is very mobile and he’s not afraid to break it down with his legs. He’s made some really big plays for us.”

Dobbs’ mobility is unique for a quarterback and he’s already dazzled when pulling the ball down. His 49 yards rushing on three carries makes him the leader in rushing yards through two games. But Dobbs doesn’t look to exclusively run either. He’s shown the ability to hang in the pocket and run only when he has to, not at the first sign of trouble.

Fichtner then discussed Rudolph’s progression in that critical Year One to Year Two jump.

“Mason’s done a nice job improving on pocket passing, pocket movement, delivery of the football and making better decisions. I told him in the beginning protecting the ball will be as important as anything.”

Nowhere was Rudolph’s pocket presence more evident than this 3rd down completion to Xavier Grimble Saturday night. The slide to his left to avoid the blitzing DB, buying enough time to get the ball out.

read more

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/randy-fichtner-breaks-down-the-rudolph-vs-dobbs-battle/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[polamalubeast]

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[Edman]

The coaches see the that the quarterback competition is heated and want to start pushing them more. Rudolph and Hodges are red-hot, and Dobbs is trying, but is so far unable to keep up.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

The coaches see the that the quarterback competition is heated and want to start pushing them more. Rudolph and Hodges are red-hot, and Dobbs is trying, but is so far unable to keep up. Rudolph has been playing great but just have a feeling that Hodges maybe the best of the bunch.

[polamalubeast]

Devlin Hodges with a A,Rudolph with a B and Dobbs with a C

for more info....

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/2019-steelers-training-camp-recap-quarterback/

[Craic]

If I were Steelers brass right now, I'd be shopping both Dobbs and Rudolph to the Colts. They've suddenly become desperate. I think we could bundle one of them with a fifth round pick and get a third round pick back.

[hawaiiansteeler]

If I were Steelers brass right now, I'd be shopping both Dobbs and Rudolph to the Colts. They've suddenly become desperate. I think we could bundle one of them with a fifth round pick and get a third round pick back.

I'm pretty sure the Steelers would never include Rudolph in any such trade...

[Six Rings]

If I were Steelers brass right now, I'd be shopping both Dobbs and Rudolph to the Colts. They've suddenly become desperate. I think we could bundle one of them with a fifth round pick and get a third round pick back.

My thoughts too. The Steelers should game plan for Dobbs and call the plays he does best then trade him. I think we can get a 5th round pick for him. The Colts will be making a lot of calls. Pull the trigger Mr. Colbert.

[86WARD]

Not sure the Colts aren’t happy with Brissett and Chad Kelly...

[polamalubeast]

Not sure the Colts aren’t happy with Brissett and Chad Kelly...

Jacoby Brissett was not very good in 2017, but I already saw worse than him ... He is much better than Dobbs and he knows their system that it was not the case in 2017 since the Colts had made a trade to have Brissett at the end of August....Brissett should be better than he was in 2017 too, since the Colts have better coaching staff and better roster.

Maybe the Colts will try to find a better backup than Chad Kelly but it's not the same situation like the Vikings were in 2016 when they made a trade for Sam Bradford for a first round pick at the end of August.

The Colts need to evaluate Brissett this year and find a Qb in the off season if Brissett is not a long term solution.

[Mojouw]

The Colts weont give up diddly squat for Dobbs. Brisket is a better version of Dobbs. And Drunk Kelly is a higher upside lottery ticket.

Dobbs has no NFL game film that shows anything positive. Can't trade a preseason hero for anything.

[teegre]

Kyle Sloter should be a Colt as of right now.

But, instead, he’ll be kept as the third-string QB on yet another team where he’s easily the starter.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Dobbs has no NFL game film that shows anything positive. Can't trade a preseason hero for anything. :applaudit:

[Mojouw]

For reference if anyone cares to read through it. Here are all trades involving QBs for the last 9 years in the NFL.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/trade_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2010&year_max=2019&pos%5B%5D=qb&draft_pick_min=1&draft_pick_max=256&order_by=trans_date

Dobbs for a conditional 7th rounder would be about the best anyone could realistically expect at this point. For that return, I would rather keep Dobbs and put Hodges on the practice squad.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

For reference if anyone cares to read through it. Here are all trades involving QBs for the last 9 years in the NFL.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/trade_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2010&year_max=2019&pos%5B%5D=qb&draft_pick_min=1&draft_pick_max=256&order_by=trans_date

Dobbs for a conditional 7th rounder would be about the best anyone could realistically expect at this point. For that return, I would rather keep Dobbs and put Hodges on the practice squad.

Agreed. Not going to get much via trade for a guy with a career stat line of 6 of 12, 43 yards 1 INT.

I cant recall the last time the Steelers kept a QB on the PS, can you? Hodges kind of reminds me of Mike Quinn, Steelers 3rd stringer from the 90's who played in NFL Europe. Looks the part and is a strong armed competitor....but nothing says he will be anything more than a backup at best. Another fan favorite because of his story.

[Mojouw]

Agreed. Not going to get much via trade for a guy with a career stat line of 6 of 12, 43 yards 1 INT.

I cant recall the last time the Steelers kept a QB on the PS, can you? Hodges kind of reminds me of Mike Quinn, Steelers 3rd stringer from the 90's who played in NFL Europe. Looks the part and is a strong armed competitor....but nothing says he will be anything more than a backup at best. Another fan favorite because of his story.

I can't remember either. But I've been won over by the line of discussion I have heard somewhere that you keep the best 60 or so guys you can. I would think that Hodges is in that group. I have not actually watched him play at all. Maybe if he gets cut he is one of those guys that doesn't get signed. I don't know.

I think I would keep him around but I am kinda weird on how I would put together my 53 man roster and PS if I was ever given an NFL team!

[Edman]

Agreed. Not going to get much via trade for a guy with a career stat line of 6 of 12, 43 yards 1 INT.

I cant recall the last time the Steelers kept a QB on the PS, can you? Hodges kind of reminds me of Mike Quinn, Steelers 3rd stringer from the 90's who played in NFL Europe. Looks the part and is a strong armed competitor....but nothing says he will be anything more than a backup at best. Another fan favorite because of his story.

The Steelers in the 90's also let Neil O' Donnell walk (Should've kept him, XXX be damned), believed that Jim Miller/Mike Tomczak was the answer for a year, thought Kordell Stewart was a quarterback, and even then butchered him to death after 1997 by letting Yancy Thigpen and Chan Gailey walk into the trainwreck he's become known for. They also were willing to not draft Ben R. in 2004.

The Steelers did not respect the Quarterback position for years, so I don't exactly hold their evaluation for QB talent back then in high regard. Times have changed since then. Anyone, especially guys like Hodges should get a shot.

[polamalubeast]

The Steelers in the 90's also let Neil O' Donnell walk (Should've kept him, XXX be damned), believed that Jim Miller/Mike Tomczak was the answer for a year, thought Kordell Stewart was a quarterback, and even then butchered him to death after 1997 by letting Yancy Thigpen and Chan Gailey walk into the trainwreck he's become known for. They also were willing to not draft Ben R. in 2004.

The Steelers did not respect the Quarterback position for years, so I don't exactly hold their evaluation for QB talent back then in high regard. Times have changed since then. Anyone, especially guys like Hodges should get a shot.

I do not think steelers could keep Chan Gailey after the 1997 season since he became the HC of the Cowboys.

[86WARD]

For reference if anyone cares to read through it. Here are all trades involving QBs for the last 9 years in the NFL.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/trade_finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2010&year_max=2019&pos%5B%5D=qb&draft_pick_min=1&draft_pick_max=256&order_by=trans_date

Dobbs for a conditional 7th rounder would be about the best anyone could realistically expect at this point. For that return, I would rather keep Dobbs and put Hodges on the practice squad.

I don’t think Hodges would stick on the practice squad. I think you would be Tree trying for the conditional 7th and if not, cut Dobbs. Is someone really going to rush out to sign Dobbs? I’d risk that before risking Hodges potential on the PS. Maybe I’m just buying into the hype. If Dobbs gets picked up and Ben gets injured, are you really going to have that much of a drop off from Dobbs to a street free agent?

[Craic]

I don’t think Hodges would stick on the practice squad. I think you would be Tree trying for the conditional 7th and if not, cut Dobbs. Is someone really going to rush out to sign Dobbs? I’d risk that before risking Hodges potential on the PS. Maybe I’m just buying into the hype. If Dobbs gets picked up and Ben gets injured, are you really going to have that much of a drop off from Dobbs to a street free agent?

Yes.

Remember what this team looked like under Vick? There's very few QBs that can walk in off the street and pick up a team's playbook let alone have ability to do things on the field. Although we've been disappointed by Dobbs this year as he took a step back from last year, I'd still take him over anyone off the street.

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[fansince'76]

Collinsworth summed up Dobbs quite well - he'll make a great play here and there due to his athleticism, sandwiched by 2 other "WTF?" plays.

Know who else played like that? Kordell Stewart.

I'll be angry if Rudolph is listed behind Dobbs on the depth chart on opening day.

[polamalubeast]

Collinsworth summed it Dobbs quite well - he'll make a great play here and there due to his athleticism, sandwiched by 2 other "WTF?" plays.

Know who else played like that? Kordell Stewart.

I'll be angry if Rudolph is listed behind Dobbs on the depth chart on opening day.

Don'y worry..It will not happen!

[Edman]

Rudolph took over the #2 job and ran away with it. As I said in the Gameday thread, his lone mistake all night was a miscommunication with Washington resulting in an INT. It looked like a horrible duck pass, but when you look at it, Rudolph was clearly expecting Washington to break outside. If JW doesn't stop his route. Its another first down. Easily correctable.

If anything, it really sells just how good Mason Rudolph really is.

Dobbs comes in the game and does what he does. An exciting play or two, but in the red zone, he badly misses a swing pass, then overthrows another. Steelers forced to settle for a field goal. These are fundamental and crippling flaws.

Dobbs may have played his last game as a Steeler. He just doesn't bring enough to the table to warrant a spot.

[steelreserve]

If I were Steelers brass right now, I'd be shopping both Dobbs and Rudolph to the Colts. They've suddenly become desperate. I think we could bundle one of them with a fifth round pick and get a third round pick back.

What the hell, let's trade a fifth-round pick and a guy who we just drafted with a third-round pick, for a straight third-round pick in exchange. Also leaving ourselves dangerously thin at QB.

Art of the deal right there.

CHAMPIONSHIP!

[Craic]

What the hell, let's trade a fifth-round pick and a guy who we just drafted with a third-round pick, for a straight third-round pick in exchange. Also leaving ourselves dangerously thin at QB.

Art of the deal right there.

CHAMPIONSHIP!

I'm more than happy with our fourth QB as the emergency back up. He has as much experience in regular season as Rudolph and about half a game less than Dobbs. In fact, we're going to probably drop either Dobbs or Rudolph (probably Dobbs) so why not try to get something for him?

Sarcasm only works when it's attached to logic.

[steelreserve]

I'm more than happy with our fourth QB as the emergency back up. He has as much experience in regular season as Rudolph and about half a game less than Dobbs. In fact, we're going to probably drop either Dobbs or Rudolph (probably Dobbs) so why not try to get something for him?

Sarcasm only works when it's attached to logic.


Well, I think Rudolph is worth hanging on to. At least from what I've seen of him, he's got the potential to be a real QB.

I am also not really a fan of dumping a guy after one year, his rookie season ... for lower value than we spent to draft him ... when he's done nothing to cause concern that our hopes were unfounded ... and is also our best player at the position other than a top-tier starter ... and it's totally normal not to get on the field as a rookie QB when the starter is still good ... and his contract is not an issue ... and there's no real urgency to trade him ... and there's an excellent chance he'll fetch a higher trade value in another year or two if we eventually insist on trading him ... and if he does turn out to be any good, we'll have just traded a team in our conference the big missing piece it needed in exchange for peanuts, and he'll be busting our balls for the next 10 or 15 years. I assumed all that was kind of understood, but if everything has to be spelled out, then fine.

The Colts want to offer us a R1 pick or something crazy, then fuck yeah we ought to listen, but otherwise I don't see any point in flipping a draft pick for a loss after one year. Especially a guy who has the potential to be an important player for us. Right now, they lost their quarterback by surprise, boo-hoo Colts. But fuck 'em - it's not our job to bail them out with a juicy offer just because it happens to fit what THEY need. They want to trade for a QB from us (or anyone else), they better get out the lube and be ready to take 10 inches right up the stink tube. I'm not trading anything to them unless they're desperate and they make an offer that says so.

Dobbs can go get fucked. He's useless to us, and his ceiling turned out to be lower than we hoped, and we've now had plenty of good hard looks to establish that. I hope we can trade him for a garbage can. I don't think we'll even get that for him, though.

[HollywoodSteel]

I don’t know why anyone is worried about losing Hodges like he’s anything special. We keep Rudolph as our #2 and Dobbs as our #3... unless someone is willing to trade something for Dobbs, but odds are against it.

If Hodges never plays a down for the Steelers that’s a good thing. You people are really worried about losing him? The plan was always 99.99% that we’d lose him. And rightly so. He’s a nice story. I wish him well. But we’ll never be kicking ourselves if he ends up the #3 QB somewhere else. He’s not the second coming of Drew Brees.

[Mojouw]

I think we might be arguing too much about the 3rd and 4th QB job. There are a few questions that could help us sort of predict what the team might do:

1. Is Rudolph the #2 and still the developmental successor to Ben R? I think the answer is "Yes" -- so Rudolph isn't going anywhere.
2. Is Dobbs on par or better than the #3 Qbs from this list (https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB)? I would say "Yes".
3. Is Hodges better than 50% of teh #3 QBs on the same list? I would say "Maybe".

Since only about half the league keeps 3 Qbs, is there really a big risk factor pushing Hodges through waivers to the PS? I would guess not. It is really hard to get reps for 2 QBs, let alone 3 or 4 in regular season practices. In fact, that may even be a reason for the Steelers to consider not keeping Hodges, what is he going to do all year? An additional factor in favor of keeping Dobbs as the #3 is that he can give you a solid "scout team" stand-in for the style of play from the Seahawks, Colts, Ravens, and Bills. Not sure if that is important, but in a close call (assuming the team sees it that way) between Dobbs and Hodges, then that could swing it.

Long story short, the more I think about it, the more I think that they try and get Hodges on the PS and Dobbs gets to stick on the 53 as the #3.

[HollywoodSteel]

I think we might be arguing too much about the 3rd and 4th QB job. There are a few questions that could help us sort of predict what the team might do:

1. Is Rudolph the #2 and still the developmental successor to Ben R? I think the answer is "Yes" -- so Rudolph isn't going anywhere.
2. Is Dobbs on par or better than the #3 Qbs from this list (https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB)? I would say "Yes".
3. Is Hodges better than 50% of teh #3 QBs on the same list? I would say "Maybe".

Since only about half the league keeps 3 Qbs, is there really a big risk factor pushing Hodges through waivers to the PS? I would guess not. It is really hard to get reps for 2 QBs, let alone 3 or 4 in regular season practices. In fact, that may even be a reason for the Steelers to consider not keeping Hodges, what is he going to do all year? An additional factor in favor of keeping Dobbs as the #3 is that he can give you a solid "scout team" stand-in for the style of play from the Seahawks, Colts, Ravens, and Bills. Not sure if that is important, but in a close call (assuming the team sees it that way) between Dobbs and Hodges, then that could swing it.

Long story short, the more I think about it, the more I think that they try and get Hodges on the PS and Dobbs gets to stick on the 53 as the #3.

Yes to all of this. I don’t understand the controversy. The only value there is in Hodges is IF we could possibly trade Dobbs for something that actually helps us... in which case Hodges could be our #3.

But this is a long shot and not really worth worrying about. So right now our depth chart should be Ben, then Rudolph, and Dobbs as the #3 (and as you say, a valuable scout team QB for certain opponents).

We don’t even have any real reason to hold onto Hodges on the PS. We don’t need him and we’ll never actually use him.

If anything we should be ROOTING for him to get picked up by some other team for his sake.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I think we might be arguing too much about the 3rd and 4th QB job. .

Nailed it.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Mason Rudolph doesn’t read anything into being second QB on Sunday night

Posted by Josh Alper on August 26, 2019

The Steelers have been holding a competition for their backup quarterback job this summer and Sunday night’s game against the Titans was the latest data point to take into consideration.

Mason Rudolph followed Ben Roethlisberger into the game and threw a 41-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver James Washington on his second snap. He threw an interception later in the first half and then gave way to Josh Dobbs for the second half of the game. After the game, Rudolph said the order wasn’t a sign of how the competition is playing out.

“We switch it up every week, so I don’t read anything into it,” Rudolph said, via Mark Kaboly of TheAthletic.com. “When I am out there, I want to produce and do well and that’s the stuff I read into.”

to read rest of article:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/26/mason-rudolph-doesnt-read-anything-into-being-second-qb-on-sunday-night/

[polamalubeast]

Between the Colts and the steelers,who said yes,who said no?

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[hawaiiansteeler]

Between the Colts and the steelers,who said yes,who said no?

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no, but I would trade them Dobbs and a case of Iron City for Doyle...

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

no, but I would trade them Dobbs and a case of Iron City for Doyle...

Might only be able to trade Dobbs for a 6 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. getting a player back would be a bigger steal than trading Martavis Bryant for a 3rd round pick.

[86WARD]

Might only be able to trade Dobbs for a 6 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. getting a player back would be a bigger steal than trading Martavis Bryant for a 3rd round pick.

Then the right move is to cut Dobbs and keep him on Speed Dial.

[HollywoodSteel]

Between the Colts and the steelers,who said yes,who said no?

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Is this a real thing?

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[polamalubeast]

I think we might be arguing too much about the 3rd and 4th QB job.



I understand your point and normally I would agree with you, but in the Ben Roethlisberger era, it happens 3 times (2005,2010 and 2015) that our 2 backup QB played at least 2 games and our 3rd QB in his year (Batch in 2005 and 2010 and Landry Jones in 2015) won at least 1 game by playing in an important moment in a game

And in the case of 2010, Charlie Batch was even our 4th QB behind Leftwith and Dennis Dixon and the reason that Batch had played was because Leftwith and Dixon were injured ... So we have to be ready in every situation and Batch had had a very good game against Tampa Bay

Also, in 2005 and 2015, the steelers made the playoffs by just one game (so the two wins with our backup QB was huge) and in 2010 if the Steelers had won a game less with Batch and Dixon, the steelers would have been in the 6th seed instead of having a first round Bye!

[steelreserve]

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I think we might be arguing too much about the 3rd and 4th QB job.

We are also arguing about the possible future #1 QB job, which makes Rudolph somewhat more important than usual.

As for the rest, I imagine it'll go just like you said, unless someone really makes an unexpected offer for Dobbs, he bitches and moans his way off the team, or something like that. Even if so, the "battle" between him and Hodges is not that important in the grand scheme of things.

[Moose]

My vote is still Mason Rudolph for back up. And I'd give Hodges some more look also......Dobbs trade bait. ( Colts could be looking.....)

[Craic]

Depends - are you currently high on ketamine, or are you at least vaguely rational?

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We are also arguing about the possible future #1 QB job, which makes Rudolph somewhat more important than usual.

As for the rest, I imagine it'll go just like you said, unless someone really makes an unexpected offer for Dobbs, he bitches and moans his way off the team, or something like that. Even if so, the "battle" between him and Hodges is not that important in the grand scheme of things.

We'd be in for a decade of "almost good enough." One thing that really struck me was his lack of arm strength. He didn't seem to have any zip on the ball and if you watch his pass to Washington, he seems to almost have to heave it. A shame we can't sow Dobbs's arm onto Rudolph.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

We'd be in for a decade of "almost good enough." One thing that really struck me was his lack of arm strength. He didn't seem to have any zip on the ball and if you watch his pass to Washington, he seems to almost have to heave it. A shame we can't sow Dobbs's arm onto Rudolph.

Roethlisberger seems to think Rudolph has plenty of arm strength. So too does Bob Labriola, from the below statement that Rudolph has the 2nd strongest arm on the Steelers, next to Ben.


Ben Roethlisberger (https://247sports.com/Player/Ben-Roethlisberger-75953), among other things, is known for his stellar arm strength that has helped him throw for the eighth most passing yards in NFL history. That's why, when Big Ben praised Mason Rudolph (https://247sports.com/Player/Mason-Rudolph-15786)'s arm strength during the team's minicamp, it means something.
Speaking to reporters during his first week with Rudolph as his new teammates, Roethlisberger was asked to give his first impressions of Pittsburgh's rookie quarterback. “He’s got a big arm. He overthrew [Antonio Brown (https://247sports.com/Player/Antonio-Brown-75967)] even though AB’s not going to admit it," Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/05/22/mason-rudolph-steelers-otas-ben-roethlisberger-retirement-rumors/stories/201805220100).
"I would rate Mason Rudolph’s arm as the second-best among the Steelers current quarterbacks, behind Ben Roethlisberger," Labriola wrote. "I haven’t seen Rudolph have any trouble making any of the kinds of throws NFL quarterback are required to make."
https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Pittsburgh-Steelers-Ben-Roethlisberger-is-impressed-with-Mason-Rudolphs-arm-strength-118809508/

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Roethlisberger seems to think Rudolph has plenty of arm strength. So too does Bob Labriola, from the below statement that Rudolph has the 2nd strongest arm on the Steelers, next to Ben.


Ben Roethlisberger (https://247sports.com/Player/Ben-Roethlisberger-75953), among other things, is known for his stellar arm strength that has helped him throw for the eighth most passing yards in NFL history. That's why, when Big Ben praised Mason Rudolph (https://247sports.com/Player/Mason-Rudolph-15786)'s arm strength during the team's minicamp, it means something.

Speaking to reporters during his first week with Rudolph as his new teammates, Roethlisberger was asked to give his first impressions of Pittsburgh's rookie quarterback. “He’s got a big arm. He overthrew [Antonio Brown (https://247sports.com/Player/Antonio-Brown-75967)] even though AB’s not going to admit it," Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/05/22/mason-rudolph-steelers-otas-ben-roethlisberger-retirement-rumors/stories/201805220100).

"I would rate Mason Rudolph’s arm as the second-best among the Steelers current quarterbacks, behind Ben Roethlisberger," Labriola wrote. "I haven’t seen Rudolph have any trouble making any of the kinds of throws NFL quarterback are required to make."
https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Pittsburgh-Steelers-Ben-Roethlisberger-is-impressed-with-Mason-Rudolphs-arm-strength-118809508/ If you look at how many Times he hit Washington deep in college. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with Rudolph's arm throwing deep.

[polamalubeast]

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[teegre]

Rudolph will be a good heir apparent to Ben, because Rudolph will have 80,000 yards completed to Washington alone.

Joking aside (kind of) they have such a serious connection.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

If you look at how many Times he hit Washington deep in college. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with Rudolph's arm throwing deep.

I think he has good arm strength, so does Ben apparently by his comments to the media last year in camp. But some posters seem to think he's got Charlie Batch weak arm.

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PFF has to be joking this time. 4 of 9 for 79 yards and 1 INT? QB rating of 36.1 ? Dobbs overthrew a 6'8" TE wide open in the flat....maybe he is the highest rated Steelers QB from Tennessee, with alopecia that graduated from engineering, but not the highest rated QB.

[polamalubeast]

I think he has good arm strength, so does Ben apparently by his comments to the media last year in camp. But some posters seem to think he's got Charlie Batch weak arm.

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PFF has to be joking this time. 4 of 9 for 79 yards and 1 INT? QB rating of 36.1 ? Dobbs overthrew a 6'8" TE wide open in the flat....maybe he is the highest rated Steelers QB from Tennessee, with alopecia that graduated from engineering, but not the highest rated QB.

I agree..Even for the eye test, he was not good.... PFF should penalize more the players who make awful play or decision or less reward players who make spectacular play and who miss a routine thown the play after...

His game against the Chiefs, he had also had a high grade (85 or something like that), but he missed an easy throw on a 3rd down and 5 and his interception was awful

[polamalubeast]

3 reasons why the Steelers third quarterback matters

The Pittsburgh Steelers have more important things to worry about than their third string quarterback, but here is why it is important.

The Steelers have more pressing concerns than trying to figure out who their third string quarterback is going to be. On the other hand, considering the team once cut Johnny Unitas and chose not to draft Dan Marino—both decisions leading to years of mediocrity—perhaps we should rethink this bromide.

read more

https://stillcurtain.com/2019/08/27/three-reasons-steelers-3rd-qb-matters/

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Thanks for posting the article. As for Hodges AKA (Bubby Brister). Will say it again and he just has that Tom Brady feel about him. Some QB that comes out of nowhere that just gets it and the game is not to big for him from the start. Not saying he will be anything close to Brady but who knows might be a diamond in the ruff as well.

[polamalubeast]

Thanks for posting the article. As for Hodges AKA (Bubby Brister). Will say it again and he just has that Tom Brady feel about him. Some QB that comes out of nowhere that just gets it and the game is not to big for him from the start. Not saying he will be anything close to Brady but who knows might be a diamond in the ruff as well.

I saw a comparison between Hodges and Tony Romo earlier in this month...Romo had been the backup of the Cowboys in his first 3 years (2003 to 2005) and at his 4th season he was the starter after Parcells benched Bledsoe at the end of October .... Romo was an undrafted player too....

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

I saw a comparison between Hodges and Tony Romo earlier in this month...Romo had been the backup of the Cowboys in his first 3 years (2003 to 2005) and at his 4th season he was the starter after Parcells benched Bledsoe at the end of October .... Romo was an undrafted player too.... Good point and story. Talent is talent and we should not over look it because they aren't high draft picks and not give them a chance. Who would ever believe a guy bagging groceries is now a hall of fame QB ?

[polamalubeast]

Good point and story. Talent is talent and we should not over look it because they aren't high draft picks and not give them a chance. Who would ever believe a guy bagging groceries is now a hall of fame QB ?

Kurt Warner is one of the best stories in sports history!

I still don't know if Dick Vermeil believed what he was saying about Kurt Warner after Trent Green's injury in the preseason at this time!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEziB2PeVw

[Fire Goodell]

Honestly Romo wasn't a bad QB at all. If Ben's eventual replacement is as good as him, I wouldn't be disappointed

[polamalubeast]

Honestly Romo wasn't a bad QB at all. If Ben's eventual replacement is as good as him, I wouldn't be disappointed

I agree....Unfortunately for Romo, he had the label of choker, but it was because of his first 3 seasons (and in 2006 it was not because of his QB play but as holder) but after that, we can not blame too much him for the Cowboys problems in the big moment.

He had his best season in 2014 but unfortunately for him it was his last full season....he had a lot of trouble to stay healthy after.

[polamalubeast]

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[polamalubeast]

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[cubanstogie]

Dobbs better grade than Rudolph. Not seeing it.

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Dobbs better grade than Rudolph. Not seeing it.

[polamalubeast]

Maybe the Colts just find a backup QB on the street.....

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[polamalubeast]

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Dobbs with the most rushing yards for the steelers in the preseason...

[86WARD]

Maybe the Colts just find a backup QB on the street.....

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Matt Cassell and a couple others were also in for workouts today.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

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Dobbs with the most rushing yards for the steelers in the preseason...

PFF will rank him as the Steelers best offensive weapon.

As for QB, I think its safe to say that #2 is the backup to Ben.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Tomlin On Rudolph’s 2019 Preseason Play: ‘I Think He’s Taken A Significant Step’

By Dave Bryan
Posted on August 30, 2019

The Pittsburgh Steelers three backup quarterbacks all played in the team’s 2019 preseason against the Carolina Panthers and of the three, Mason Rudolph was the most impressive. Rudolph, the team’s first of two third-round draft picks in 2018, completed 7 of his 11 total pass attempts for 125 yards and a touchdown after relieving starter Joshua Dobbs in the second quarter.

After the game, Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was asked if he was happy with what he saw out of Rudolph not only Thursday night, but during the entire preseason.

“Largely, yes,” Tomlin said. “You know, as a second-year guy, like we’ve asked all second-year guys, I think he’s taken a significant step not only in consistency and production, but just awareness and communication; overall, general readiness. Like a lot of the second-year guys, I thought he came in physically ready from a conditioning standpoint. He carried that knowledge of last year’s journey. So, it’s been a good process for him.”

Tomlin was asked if he was ready to announce Rudolph’s place on the quarterback depth chart with the preseason now over and he said that he wasn’t.

to read rest of article:

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/tomlin-on-rudolphs-2019-preseason-play-i-think-hes-taken-a-significant-step/

[Craic]

I think he has good arm strength, so does Ben apparently by his comments to the media last year in camp. But some posters seem to think he's got Charlie Batch weak arm.



Are we back to passive aggressive posting?

Yes. When I watch him throw the ball compared to Ben or Dobbs, he seems to not have the same arm strength as either of them. I have no problem admitting that could be because he puts more air under the ball (something Ben had problems with on deep balls earlier in his career). But go back and watch this last game and watch the ball speed on passes. At this point, it's my one concern with Rudolph. I mean, he doesn't have a lot of escapability, either, but I'm not expecting another Ben R. or someone who can sprint out of the pocket. So I'm fine with that.

(Seems a quick search shows arm strength and velocity was a concern in the draft as well. Rudolph even admitted that he didn't have great strength or velocity, but said for him, he's focused more on accuracy).

[86WARD]

From what I’ve seen, I feel like Rusolph has done a Farley good job at extending plays, keeping his eyes downfield and completing the passes.

[polamalubeast]

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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Are we back to passive aggressive posting?

Yes. When I watch him throw the ball compared to Ben or Dobbs, he seems to not have the same arm strength as either of them. I have no problem admitting that could be because he puts more air under the ball (something Ben had problems with on deep balls earlier in his career). But go back and watch this last game and watch the ball speed on passes. At this point, it's my one concern with Rudolph. I mean, he doesn't have a lot of escapability, either, but I'm not expecting another Ben R. or someone who can sprint out of the pocket. So I'm fine with that.

(Seems a quick search shows arm strength and velocity was a concern in the draft as well. Rudolph even admitted that he didn't have great strength or velocity, but said for him, he's focused more on accuracy).

Just speaking in general terms in an attempt to avoid some people getting their underwear in a bunch, which tends to happen on this site. This pass last year to JuJu didn't seem to lack velocity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEVHuAcFj4M

Sure he isn't Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson arm strength, but he doesn't look Kyle Lauleta west coast offense weak armed. Rudolph is the #2 and an NFL QB, while Dobbs is a better runner than passer, which was shown in the preseason. IMO.

[Shoes]

Maybe it was just me but the team seemed like it came to life when Rudolph took the field. I really like him, he's a strong natural leader. Pretty nice pump-fakes too for having "small" hands :chuckle:

[polamalubeast]

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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Maybe it was just me but the team seemed like it came to life when Rudolph took the field. I really like him, he's a strong natural leader. Pretty nice pump-fakes too for having "small" hands :chuckle: OMG, he has Teddy Bridgewater size Hands. :jawdrop:

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

OMG, he has Teddy Bridgewater size Hands. :jawdrop: Well at least he doesn't have Trump hands.

[Born2Steel]

Mason Rudolph. Final answer!

[polamalubeast]

This is over!

[polamalubeast]

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[Mojouw]

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One: Who is Marcus Mosher?

Two: incredibly common practice to keep 3rd and 4th string guys around to run scout team.

Three: Can we stop just posting random crap from Twitter? At least try and see if comes from someone with more access than the rest of the posters on here. Do we copy and paste posts from here to Twitter? Nope. Because no one here is a source. Why do we insist on doing it the other way around?

[polamalubeast]

One: Who is Marcus Mosher?

Two: incredibly common practice to keep 3rd and 4th string guys around to run scout team.

Three: Can we stop just posting random crap from Twitter? At least try and see if comes from someone with more access than the rest of the posters on here. Do we copy and paste posts from here to Twitter? Nope. Because no one here is a source. Why do we insist on doing it the other way around?

It was just that Steelers depot had retweet this tweet

Sorry for that, I'll be more cautious about that ... It could happen that I post tweet that I should not do, but I will try to make the least mistake possible

[86WARD]

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Probably the most irrelevant tweet of the year. Lol.

[86WARD]

Three: Can we stop just posting random crap from Twitter? At least try and see if comes from someone with more access than the rest of the posters on here. Do we copy and paste posts from here to Twitter? Nope. Because no one here is a source. Why do we insist on doing it the other way around?

Agree. It’s does get out of hand. Especially ones that are just random and clumped in a thread that doesn’t really pertain to the thread other than a players name. It’s very annoying. Start a new thread with some context and a source link.

Anything that is a response is totally out of context because the original tweet isn’t posted and the idea of the message board is to keep people here. Posting a link without a story or just a tweet pulls people away from the board and they may not return immediately...you’re basically sending people out the door and they may or may not find their way back.

[stillers4me]

No worries..........that's what Twitter is......random crap. Not everything can be earth shattering but some are thought provoking.

Quitchernitpickin'.

Carry on with the annual bitching about about who made the roster and who did not. :coffee:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Probably the most irrelevant tweet of the year. Lol.

I think the Aditi Kinkhabwala tweet was relevant info.

Ben likes Dobbs in the QB room, so he gets to be one of the 52 kids. And he can pretend to be Lamar Jackson on scout team.

[86WARD]

I think the Aditi Kinkhabwala tweet was relevant info.

Ben likes Dobbs in the QB room, so he gets to be one of the 52 kids. And he can pretend to be Lamar Jackson on scout team.

I responded to a Marcus Moser or whoever’s tweet.

[86WARD]

Denver is actively seeking to trade or sign a backup QB...

[Mojouw]

It was just that Steelers depot had retweet this tweet

Sorry for that, I'll be more cautious about that ... It could happen that I post tweet that I should not do, but I will try to make the least mistake possible
No worries. I just would rather hear what you and other posters are thinking than random Twitter folks. I value the thoughts of most on here more than the NFL Twitter verse.

[polamalubeast]

No worries. I just would rather hear what you and other posters are thinking than random Twitter folks. I value the thoughts of most on here more than the NFL Twitter verse.

It's fine ... I'll be careful

I believe the tweet of Aditi in post 370 was a good information, but not the tweet in post 371!

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I responded to a Marcus Moser or whoever’s tweet.
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Anybody claim Hodges yet? I am curious to see if other teams saw what impressed some Steeler fans.

[teegre]

Denver is actively seeking to trade or sign a backup QB...

The Seahawks only have Russell Wilson at QB. Really. WTF!?!

[polamalubeast]

I think the Aditi Kinkhabwala tweet was relevant info.

Ben likes Dobbs in the QB room, so he gets to be one of the 52 kids. And he can pretend to be Lamar Jackson on scout team.

Roethlisberger is the oldest in the locker room, so that's probably why Colbert said that...And it's really not a big deal ... I often hear a media or player say like this kid when that person is much older than you.

Even Ramon Foster had said this kid in reference to JuJu or Devin Bush (I think) and we see that many time in the league that an older player or person say to a player that he is a kid, so I never understood why Colbert's comments this winter are a big deal even at one week before the season!

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The Seahawks only have Russell Wilson at QB. Really. WTF!?!

Surely because Russell Wilson has always been healthy in his career! ... Never missed a start in the NFL! ... Pete Carroll is a little too confident about this! ... No seriously it's a little weird .... maybe it was just for manipulate their roster a bit and they will re sign Geno Smith tomorrow..We will see!

[Mojouw]

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Anybody claim Hodges yet? I am curious to see if other teams saw what impressed some Steeler fans.

Another similar situation is the #3 QB that got released in Minnesota. Everyone up this corner of the world is over the moon for this guy. Oddly enough no actual NFL folks care -- who knew?!

https://www.twincities.com/2019/08/31/vikings-release-qb-kyle-sloter-after-being-unable-to-trade-him/

[polamalubeast]

Denver is actively seeking to trade or sign a backup QB...

The Broncos have found their backup QB....

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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Another similar situation is the #3 QB that got released in Minnesota. Everyone up this corner of the world is over the moon for this guy. Oddly enough no actual NFL folks care -- who knew?!

https://www.twincities.com/2019/08/31/vikings-release-qb-kyle-sloter-after-being-unable-to-trade-him/

Maybe the Steelers will pick up this Kyle Sloter kid to put on the practice squad, so that he can be the preseason hero of 2020.

Anyways, good to see the Steelers now have a passer at the #2 QB spot.

[polamalubeast]

Surely because Russell Wilson has always been healthy in his career! ... Never missed a start in the NFL! ... Pete Carroll is a little too confident about this! ... No seriously it's a little weird .... maybe it was just for manipulate their roster a bit and they will re sign Geno Smith tomorrow..We will see!

Yeah,Geno Smith stay in Seattle...

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